Finally, Pics of Pauls setup
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Silver Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 761 Registered: Jan-05 | I've had a HT of one form or another for the past 15years, and this is my most recent version. My HT is used 99.99% for theater surround purposes and 00.01% for music. My newest major upgrades are my YamahaRX-V2500 receiver that I bought in January, and my Mitsubishi 65"HDTV that I picked up last November. Shopping for those is what origionally brought me to this forum. I run a 7 channel surround setup anchored by a 20year old pair of Cerwin Vega D9s that I've recently reconed. They should be good for another 20 years.....Laugh> Before reconing, I shopped extensively for something new, but found nothing that delivers the huge 'theater' experience I crave. These are traditional +-100lb behemoths with 15" main drivers, dual 6.5"mids, and I dont remember the tweeter design. My center channel speaker is also CV, and because my TV is so tall, it sits 5.5" off the ground. Because of that, I have it angled slightly downward to better shoot sound down into the listening area. As you can tell by the photo, it's slightly dipole and angled in the front. My surrounds are 3-way AAL83s. To give you a perspective of their size, the main woofer is 8". Bose161s bring up the rear in back. I bought Bose for no better reason that they 'fit the space', and I have them wall mounted above a pair of double sliding glass doors along the back wall as seen in the photo, and they're angled down into the listening area. As for my TV viewing, I used Direct TV and have the Samsung HDbox to decode those signals and pipe them into my receiver. As for movies, I use a Sony DVD player. Well....that's just about it.  |
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Silver Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 762 Registered: Jan-05 | these are my surrounds and backs.....   |
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Silver Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 763 Registered: Jan-05 | A closeup of the 'beasts'. One thing I like is that the tweeters have a red reset button and they cannot be blown. Also the woofers have a built in fuse as seen in the front panel. The mids and highs both have separate volume knobs so you can adjust them up or down according to your taste. Also, I like the idea of having dual mids. For my uses, these are ideal. I cant speak for the newer CV speaker models, but I wouldnt trade these 20year old behemoths 'even-up' for new speakers costing much more.  |
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Silver Member Username: Joe_cOakwood, Ga Post Number: 235 Registered: Mar-05 | cool setup paul, love those beasts |
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Silver Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 361 Registered: Feb-05 | Movie night at Paul's place...let's go! |
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Silver Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 774 Registered: Jan-05 | The movies of the night were "Gladiator" and "National Treasure". I need to watch NT again because I slept through part of it.......Heh Good movie though. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 134 Registered: May-05 | HAHAHAHA cerwin vega. I love it man. Gotta bit of old school in your blood. Nice system. |
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Silver Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 839 Registered: Jan-05 | HEH....thanks(I think). All the electronics are new though...... I've had a change in plans....... The old 'beasts' will be tamed very soon because I'm expecting a new beast to arrive on Friday. Once my new 'beast' breathes life, the CVs days may be numbered. I'll find out if this 140lb 'monster' bites in less than 3 days  http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pb12_plus_2.htm |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 145 Registered: May-05 | Id get a set of klipsch speakers up in that with that sub. That would be god like in sound. looks good. |
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Silver Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 873 Registered: Jan-05 | This is one sick and nasty beast of a sub.  And yes, it bites. |
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Silver Member Username: Joe_cOakwood, Ga Post Number: 279 Registered: Mar-05 | christ that thing is huge!!!! |
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Silver Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 878 Registered: Jan-05 | LOL... You should hear it. It's beyond words, and I'm still in shock. That thing puts out like you wouldnt believe. |
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New member Username: MarkdallaireBrooks, Alberta Canada Post Number: 3 Registered: May-05 | paul that sub is a mean sub what are the statistics of that sub tell me more |
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New member Username: MarkdallaireBrooks, Alberta Canada Post Number: 4 Registered: May-05 | paul that sub is a mean sub what are the statistics of that sub tell me more |
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Silver Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 928 Registered: Jan-05 | Mark, There is a link to the manufacturer site about 4 messages up the list. It's the SVS PB12-plus/2. Before ordering a sub that big, you'll definitely want to make sure you have a place to put it. Its truly a beast, and has the most incredible combo of pure brute force, ultra-smooth response, and finese from the same unit that I've ever seen. I feel fairly certain that this sub will 'dust' competing subs costing several times more. |
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Bronze Member Username: DuckmanxPost Number: 19 Registered: Mar-05 | OMG. In case the sub speaker or amp blows, you can take out the components and make your son a treehouse out of it... |
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Bronze Member Username: Javmo200Michigan Post Number: 45 Registered: Mar-05 | Woooooooooooao---that is hugue --I will like to try thaty in my place... |
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Silver Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 948 Registered: Jan-05 | Trust me, it's a lot of fun. Last night, I had the house to myself long enough to watch 'Terminator 3' at reference levels for the first time with the new sub. Wow, if you like thunderous movies, this sub delivers pure movie nirvana and with the Gain only at around 40%. Out of curiosity, I went outside during the movie, and the loud segments were making the table and chairs rattle to the vibrations out on the back deck.......HEH |
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Bronze Member Username: RsxmanPost Number: 22 Registered: Jul-05 | very nice setup paul...good to see youre a man who knows when to keep a jem. Id make ur son clean ur system though, lil buggers like our toys more than theirs |
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Bronze Member Username: Arrow224Post Number: 71 Registered: Mar-05 | DAMN DUDE, that a HUGE system you got.... Almost big enough to fit in a 10 car garage..... |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 1683 Registered: Jan-05 | Ahhhh...thanks, I do get a lot of enjoyment from it. My son doesnt clean my system, but he did throw a raquetball in one of my subwoofer ports once. I was able to pick it out with a long sweeper extension. HEH Going "OUT" to the movies isnt even worth the trip anymore. I much prefer the movie experience at home. |
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Bronze Member Username: Stereo_geniousUSA Post Number: 15 Registered: Jul-05 | Paul, did you say that you had those Cerwin-vegas since high school/college? If so, I am so jealous of you. I am just as much into stereo equipment as you are, and all I have in my room is a JVC shelf stereo, and a cheap component stereo with tiny bass-shy bookshelf speakers. |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 1705 Registered: Jan-05 | Yea, I bought these during my junior year in HS(1985), but I never had them in the dorms when I was in college. I did bring them to my apartment for my senior year though, and as you can imagine, they got plenty of use and never got a scratch. |
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Bronze Member Username: Stereo_geniousUSA Post Number: 16 Registered: Jul-05 | You are so lucky! I am already almost a sophomore in college and not once have I ever had big tower speakers in my room. Tell me, how did you save up for them, and how did you convince your parents to let you get them? |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 1716 Registered: Jan-05 | I had a summer job, and paid for them myself. As for parental permission??? My father is a HiFi nut too, so that was never a concern. When I was a kid, he would always go HiFi shopping with me, because he was as 'geeked' out about shopping electronic toys as I was......probably moreso. The funny thing was that my dad wanted me to buy the bigger CVs, and I bought smaller Sansui towers(3-way towers with dual 12" woofers) against his advice. The Sansuis were a couple hundred less, and I went the cheaper route. He told me that I would later regret not spending more for the bigger speakers because I would always have them. The Sansui towers were junk, and I was constantly blowing tweeters. After 1 year suffering, I sold them for practically nothing, and then bought the speakers he told me to buy in the first place. How funny is that?? |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 204 Registered: May-05 | Mike, Im also a sophmore in college, and bro, saving for some towers isnt all that hard. I build mine myself tho. Eclipse subs, Zapco amps, Homemade converter. Solid. 10,000 watts rms now. It will make a pregnant lady burst. Lol. All i say man, u want something bad enuf, u will get it. |
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Bronze Member Username: Stereo_geniousUSA Post Number: 17 Registered: Jul-05 | Thank you guys for your time. I really appreciated it. |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 1740 Registered: Jan-05 | Whatever you do, avoid the 'dainty' lightweights.... Go with something that has substance like the, well....you know. |
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Bronze Member Username: Stereo_geniousUSA Post Number: 18 Registered: Jul-05 | By the way, Paul, tell me what you think of the following tower speakers: Sony SS-Mf750H ($279.95/pair), Cerwin Vega CLSC-12 ($379.76/pair), and JBL Northridge E100 ($998/pair). Any opinions on these speaker models? |
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Bronze Member Username: Stereo_geniousUSA Post Number: 19 Registered: Jul-05 | Also, what does your wife think of those Cerwin-vega behemoths of yours? Does she hate them or like them? |
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Silver Member Username: Joe_cOakwood, Ga Post Number: 771 Registered: Mar-05 | You can get E90's at www.onecall.com for 207 ea , way better deal than the e100's. |
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Bronze Member Username: Stereo_geniousUSA Post Number: 22 Registered: Jul-05 | Why are the e90s better than the 100's? |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 1747 Registered: Jan-05 | Mike, I havent had the opportunity to audition the models you listed, so I couldnt comment on their quality. As for the spouse?? I had those speakers before her, so they came with me as a package deal. LOL |
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Bronze Member Username: Stereo_geniousUSA Post Number: 23 Registered: Jul-05 | And what are the dimensions of your living room? |
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Silver Member Username: Joe_cOakwood, Ga Post Number: 778 Registered: Mar-05 | 14' x 16' , standard double wide livingroom. |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 1752 Registered: Jan-05 | My HT is slightly L shaped and 20 feet front to back, and 25ft left to right. The TV and components sit in a small area recessed about 5-6feet back from the main wall in a nook. |
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Silver Member Username: DakulisSpokane, Washington United States Post Number: 356 Registered: May-05 | Paul, My A-Ls would eat those tiny little CVs for a snack, I think. Maybe I will have to get those puppies reconed. LOL |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 1808 Registered: Jan-05 | HEH... I'd like to see them try. As far as reconing goes....I had my speakers reconed in the recent past, and they're as good as new |
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Gold Member Username: Edster922Abubala, Ababala The Occupation Post Number: 1422 Registered: Mar-05 | I envy the TV and sub, obviously! However Paul, you might want to consider raising your CVs just a bit, so that the tweeters are at ear level to your sitting position. Since the SVS is doing the low end now you won't lose any bass that way, but it should improve the clarity of the CVs. Two pairs of these should do the job: http://www.accessories4less.com/Amazing/itemdesc.asp?CartId=14916471VMO-EVEREST- CI46&ic=SD%2DBB75%2F16&cc=&tpc= |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 1851 Registered: Jan-05 | Bad link eddie.... BTW, I've recently been experimenting with a lower selector level and set my SVS down to the 16hz setting tonight .................holy JHC!!! I likee!! I was using 20hz pretty much as default because even at that level, there is still a fairly strong response to near 16hz. Now at the current setting, I'm closing in on 11hz Whoah.....it's amazing what you can feel!! Unfreaking believable |
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New member Username: Matt9876Post Number: 8 Registered: Aug-05 | What do subsonic bass frequencies (bass frequencies below 20 Hz) sound like, Paul? Can you even describe them, or not? |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 1860 Registered: Jan-05 | It's not always about what you can hear, but what you feel, and you will feel the difference all over(and deep inside) your body. |
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New member Username: Matt1234Post Number: 1 Registered: Aug-05 | Hey, Paul. What do you think of this beast?  It has dual 15 in. woofers, a 6 in. midwoofer, and a 1" soft dome tweeter. The sensitivity of this speaker is 97 db. What do you think |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 2093 Registered: Jan-05 | I'll be willing to bet that monster can really rock out, however I've never personally listened to that model before. |
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Gold Member Username: Thx_3417Post Number: 1077 Registered: May-05 | Often what you feel inside your body is called the infersSonics range.....20Hz to 0Hz. And are bodies resonate at 7Hz, if this where to be matched via an array of huge 18inc sub bass units placed wall to wall with there own amplifiers driving them and sine wave of 7Hz where to be played, at a high SPL db level it would match the bodies own resonate frequency and will cause disorientation chest pains and even fatal death I Kidd you not..... |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 2110 Registered: Jan-05 | I guess Im lucky that my sub can only reach 11hz in a well treated room. I wont have to worry about that |
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New member Username: KidstereoPost Number: 6 Registered: Aug-05 | Paul, I am sorry to bother you again, but I have another question for you about Cerwin Vegas. Since you seem to be a Cerwin Vega genious, I figured I'd come to you for advice. How harsh do Cerwin Vegas sound in the treble? I have heard good reviews about those CLSC-215's having lots of bass, but if they have harsh treble, I ain't buying them, because I have a JVC shelf unit with pounding bass and harsh treble, and while it does impress me with its pounding bass, its harsh treble makes radio DJs sound ten times more annoying and grates on my ears. I love a lot of bass, but I cannot stand harsh treble. Therefore, do you have any answers? If not, that's all right. |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 2271 Registered: Jan-05 | Matt, My speakers are 20 years old, and I dont know how they compare to the new speakers. I've never heard those speakers, but I highly doubt they scream like DJ speakers. It's really apples to oranges when comparing to those PA speakers used by DJs. If you're looking for 'rocking' speakers, I doubt there is much out there that will hold a candle to them. |
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Bronze Member Username: KidstereoPost Number: 18 Registered: Aug-05 | Thanks for your advice. |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorPost Number: 1577 Registered: Apr-05 |
So that means frequencies below 5-6hz won't kill us? That's very interesting, does anyone have an article or link to this? |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 274 Registered: May-05 | Andy Anything under 10hz is not recognizable by the human ear. Plus i guarantee no sub on the market will hit below 15hz. Its pointless. You wont even be able to hear it. O and like jexx braught up, it wont kill you, it wont harm you, you wont even hear it. Lol Andy, for a gold member to say such things, idk it should alost be a crime. do some research before you go telling people pointless info. ANd paul. dj speakers are nothing like home audio. They cannot replicate the sound that a good home audio sub can. Dj speakers are designed to be loud, and loud only. They will not sound crystal clean in any way, and by this i mean dont just say uhhh they sound good tho, im talkin specs, if you get a meter up in there, the home audio will spank the dj speakers almost everytime (for comparable subs/speakers). I kno this because i have a few buddies that are club dj's in nor cal, so i get to work with alot of dj equip also. ~ Just thot id put my 2 cents in. |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 2352 Registered: Jan-05 | Those arent DJ speakers. You've never heard my speakers, so I hardly respect your ability to critique their sound. All you are is a stupid fagg 'left' coaster anyway so your ignorant statement comes as no suprise. Why dont you go hump your husband Bills leg or something and stay out of my thread. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 276 Registered: May-05 | You talking to me paul, or Andy, kuz i wasnt in any way replying to anything you said paul, i was replying to what andy and matt said, and uhhh who said your speakers were dj speakers. Cerwin Vega makes car audio and home audio tweets,mids,components,and subs. So yea, i know they are not dj subs, and i dont think anyone in this post said they were. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 277 Registered: May-05 | still, i like that powered sub.It would be flippin awsome to get a lazy boy chair, hollow it out, and put that b!tch under the seat. LOL. Imagine watchin nascar or something with that. LOL \ have you thought about running a media center? By that i mean use a computer with windows media o/s on it, and get a d link, or linksys wireless media receiver. You can play movies,music,look at pics. The os is like 200,and the receiver is like 200, I just thot id mention it, Its kinda pricey tho, but i definately give it a 9 outa 10 |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 278 Registered: May-05 | http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=4667615&search=linksys+m edia+center LINKSYS MEDIA CENTER http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=318 D-LINK MEDIA CENTER http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/default.mspx O/S |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 279 Registered: May-05 | thot some links would help |
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Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucksPost Number: 2354 Registered: Jan-05 | Yea, that powered sub is really nasty. If I mistook your DJ speaker comment, then I apologize for my response. And no...that sub would never fit under a seat.... Not unless it was a captains chair....LOL |
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Anoynymous Unregistered guest | Paul, You need new curtains. |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 1683 Registered: Feb-05 | Those would be drapes. |