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Mrbios Unregistered guest | Nov 18 2004: I'm Back with more test results... -------------------------------------------------- CORE PROBLEM: Sony DCR-TRV22 (continued) FireWire vs USB2 -------------------------------------------------- I ran a video capture quality test with the Sony DCR-TRV22. YES, I did remember to chck the box for the MAX quality "Highest Quality" setting for ALL tests. ------------------------------------------------- FireWire vs. USB2 FAQ's and General Speed Info: ------------------------------------------------- Hopefully I can put the USB2 vs Firewire issue to bed once and for all. In my earlier posts you might remember that this Sony camera has terrible export quality on the USB2 port. Many people on this forum and other places tried to trumpet firewire as way better quality. I have tested hard drives and found both transfer data at very similar rates ~ 20-25 MegaBytes per second SUSTAINED, firewire is slightly ~ 17%faster. They claim a theoritical max transfer rate of ~ 50 megabytes a second and in real world testing I found that to be plain BS! Firewire had better industry support for Professionals but those benefits do not apply or affect this camera or these tests. But, I digress.... The simple truth is that either transfers the SAME digital data from the sony DCR-TRV22 camera to the computer hard disk. ------------------------------------------------- The quality is very poor. I thought that maybe sony chose to reserve a "high quality" transfer for the firewire port and a "low quality" or smaller file size transfer on the USB2 port. This proved NOT to be true. Both ports stream same file size and low quality on both USB2 and FireWire in both of the two formats offered: MPEG1(MPG) set for MAX quality 0.7/MB/s and AVI (non compressed and very large!over 3.4 MB/s for each second of video). |
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Unregistered guest | i have a canon zr-80 mini dv camcorder.how do i connect it to my computer? then how do i download movies to my computer? |
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kiki11 Unregistered guest | I have a Sony Handycam mini Dv handy cam. I tried to convert the movies on Dv tapes into a video cd utilising the software provided from Sony. The result was very poor quality, sort of blurred images and besides no sound was audible. Any suggestions of how to overcome these problems? Thanks for anybody willing to help!!! |
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Anonymous | I've been reading posts on this page about creating high quality DVD from mini-DV. Like most of you I had the same problem of not getting highest possible quality from my Sony TRV460 (D8). The video quality was excellent when I connected it to my Toshiba 50 HD tv, but had hard time getting the video (thru 1394 firewire) to pc and making DVD without losing much quality using various software (InterVideo's DVD Creator 2 Platinum, NeoDVD, MyDVD, Ulead, etc.). So I tried the latest trial version from Pinnacle Studio Plus 9 to see if it will do the magic. One thing that helped me solve the problem and got DVD-quality video to my pc and made DVD disc from it is that the Studio plus 9 has the test writing function on my hard drive to see if it is capable of writing the data fast enough without dropping frames. In fact, it said my hard drive (western digital 80gb 7200rpm, UDMA ATA100/66) was not capable of writing data above the rate of 4mb/sec. I'm sure my hard drive is capable by double-checking the western digital web site and downloaded the latest driver from western digital. Then I came across an article on their knowledge base about the data transfer rate, and found out that it was sort of related to how windows xp handles the IDE disk operation. (find out the fix at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817472). Before I changed the registry, I also downloaded xp sp2 first. Then I made the changes to the registry. Then I run the test from Studio 9 again and it said the hard drive is capable of writing data over 4mb/sec. Then I capture the video using 1394 firewire to two formats (both without dropping a single frame): one is avi and the other one is mpeg2. Then I put the two files into the Studio project and made one DVD disc. I want to compare the avi and mpeg2 quality after the DVD was made. As far as I can tell, there wasn't much difference between the two (avi and mpeg2, avi had to be rendering/converting to mpeg2 though in studio 9), and amazingly the DVD's video quality is almost exactly the same as playing the video directly from the TRV460 to HD tv. I agreed that capturing video to avi or mpeg2 probably does not make lots of difference in terms of the video quality (at least if you are using pinnacle studio 9). What makes the biggest difference is probably the hard drive capability. I'm going to make DVD using my other software after knowing that now my hard drive is capable of writing data fast enough. If you have problem with video quality, you may want to make sure your hard drive is configured correctly. |
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Unregistered guest | I am using SONY-DCR-TRV22E. The Video taken during one of my recent vacations have been great both indoors & outdoors. watching the DV thru camera directly connected to TV is crystal clear and smooth. But my problem is that when I am making a VCD (through PC using USB and Pixela s/w) and playing it thru player the picture quality is horrible as well as there are breaks and jerks in between. Please help me as my whole purpose is getting defeated -- I need "REMEDIES" from people who have already done it successfully. |
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Unregistered guest | Im just starting out at the moment. My friend has a mac with final cut pro and im looking to buy a mini DV camcorder to start making short films. I knows its going to be a mammouth task learning about all this and expensive and time consuming and, from what ive been reading, very frustrating at times, but im willing give it all go. I have the will and some ideas so im hoping thats going to take me somewhere. What i really need is someone who does this and knows something about film making to give me a little advice. Starting with what camera im going to need. I dont what to say what my budget is at the moment because im sure it would get quite a good laugh but id like to know how much i would be spending on a camera that will suit my purpose. Thanx all |
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Unregistered guest | Hi everybody. I alway had the habbit of seeking info from the father sources; I went to microsoft website. There is an article there, not academically detailed, but at least it had the mocrosoft signature on it. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/moviemaker/expert/jones_02november25.ms px I haven't tried it yet because I didnt recieve my camera yet. But I think that the process is divided into 3 steps. 1-Importing video to computer via firewire using Windows Movie Maker. 2- Changing the Format from AVI to MPEG2 3-Burning the MPEG2 file to DVD. From What I read in the forum by Anonymous, it seems that Pinnacle Studio Plus 9 does all of the three steps. Microsoft article doesnt mentione anything about the second step. Maybe it is not necessary, or mybe the DVD burning software that the authour had used did the second and third steps together.I called canon support, and the guy told me that I just need Windows Movie Maker to do the job. But This is wrong, because in the Microsoft article, the authour used Movie Maker in addition to a DVD burning software, and he explicitly said that Movie Maker doesnt burn DVD's. |
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Anonymous | Hi. I was very interested in all the discussion on transferring from the SONY DCR-TRV22E to mac. My problem is that my wife threw out my CD before I had a chance to get it on my mac!! So I have had NO luck in getting any home movies onto DVD. I phoned Sony and they want £31 for a new disk. (Iam live in Glasgow, Scotland). Could anyone please burn a disk for me if I send it to them with a replt paid envelope? Please help, thanks |
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Anonymous | www.doom9.net Guide to making perfect copys of DV's. |
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Anonymous | u know what, don't take the video to the dam computer, if u can buy a external dvd burner ( Like VCR ). plug the cam to the burner and after 60 mnt u will get a crisp act DVD of u'r recorded video. And for those who need to edit their video, get a capture card like "Pinnacle DV 500plus" (don't use any format except raw avi, And for DVD's USE Their defult PAL DVD Or NTSC DVD format). And burn dvd with nero. Cost Effectiv solution is 1394 but u hv to be a pro to manage a good quality after the compression coz it looses quality every time u get it through a software or editing process(Becoz of Encoding method, So try less editing) . Or if u hv a tv card or a agp with svideo in put then u can easyly get a dvd quality mpeg2 movie with some software assistance and more of that u can correct color or brightness contrast through that software, when i do that i use WinDVR and Pinacal PCTV Pro. it works fine for me. Sadi |
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Unregistered guest | Hello ! Ok here`s my problem; when i have filmed something , I transfere it into my PC (using USB-cable) , I edit the movie and thats ok. But some movies I want to "export to tape" so I can see movies on Tv , but when i start to export movies to tape, it seems to go OK on the computer screen ,it renders the movie an all ,but my camera (sony DCR-HC14E) doesnt seem to react. I dont get any movie onto my camera:/ (I use Adobe Premiere Pro...) If someone got the answer I`d love it  Øyvind. |
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Unregistered guest | Hi I have an idea about transferring dvtape to vcd. How about playing the camcorder onto TV and record it with a VCR? I don't know if its possible and havent tried. Or better still record it with a VCD recorder(if there is one in the market) from TV! |
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Gold Member Username: Project6Post Number: 2595 Registered: Dec-03 | Yes it is possible and whole lot faster. |
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Unregistered guest | I'm using Dazzle DVD Creation Station 200 to convert some old home movies to DVD. The problem I'm having is Dazzle DVD Complete will not reconize my external DVD burner. Any thoughts? |
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rikter Unregistered guest | I purchased the Dazzle DVD Creation Station 200 as well. MovieStar works well for capture but the DVD Complete has never recognized my burner either. What I do is save the project to my hard drive only by unchecking my burner which creates the Audio TS and Video TS Folders (these include the .ifo, .vob, etc files for dvd). I burn these folders using a regular data transfer and it works fine. |
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z123123 Unregistered guest | Hey there, i own a sony IP7 camera which uses MicroMV (MMV) Technology (basically, small cassettes inside the machine). when i transfer files via the firewire cable, they are automatically set to .MMV . the only option using Movie Shaker 3.1 (supplied software) is to export the files as an MPEG1. Are there any good softwares out there that convert MMV to MPEG2 (DVD Quality) or just another software that captures straight from the camera to MPEG2 encoding Help is much appreciated. Anon. |
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z123123 Unregistered guest | Hey there, i own a sony IP7 camera which uses MicroMV (MMV) Technology (basically, small cassettes inside the machine). when i transfer files via the firewire cable, they are automatically set to .MMV . the only option using Movie Shaker 3.1 (supplied software) is to export the files as an MPEG1. Are there any good softwares out there that convert MMV to MPEG2 (DVD Quality) or just another software that captures straight from the camera to MPEG2 encoding Help is much appreciated. Anon. |
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Unregistered guest | Hi I have a Panasonic GS11 handycam. I am able to capture my movies onto my PC using a firewire card and adobe premier but the biggest problem i am facing is that the size of 1 hr tape comes to around 5-6GB which is very huge. Can someone help me as to how to compress the file size or maybe convert the movie into single layer file to reduce its size. |
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blarlg Unregistered guest | ive got genital warts. |
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Awesome Andrew Prodctions Unregistered guest | ---HIGH QUALITY VIDEO--- I have a JVC GR-sumthin sumthin and working with movie maker 2 is just fine. When Transfering your video from dv format, MM2 lets you change its format when uploading the video. (best with fire wire). I change DV format to High Quslity video or NTSC which means it will be played in an american dvd player. I am only 14 and i know all this stuf?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!! Well, I know it is a big file size, but you can burn a dvd and still have high quality video for your computer and your dvd player. delete the video after it is burnt so you have your hard disk space left. I use the external Hp dvd writer 4000. Since i use a laptop. My video editing works great and i dont have many problems.. (i might switch from Windows to mac cause i hate how windows always freezes.) hehe http://www.microsoft.com -L- |
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Bri_guy Unregistered guest | Awesome Andrew if I want to take a 60 min video and use the High Quality video option would it fit onto a dvd? Timewise I think it would fit, but file size it wouldnt. Dvd can only hold 4.7 gigs and according to that upload it would be Much bigger. I just want to be able to put my dv onto a dvd (dvd quality results). |
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Awesome A Productions Unregistered guest | It could fit... But if it desn't then you can still have two choices, either burn it to two dvd's -or- compress the file size even more or.. but you'll lose the quality of the video when playing it on a DVD player. |
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New member Username: TmichaelPost Number: 1 Registered: Mar-05 | Bri_guy, seems to me the process of taking that file and outputting to DVD can be done with an authoring program which can compress to fit the DVD, say Nero. |
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New member Username: TmichaelPost Number: 2 Registered: Mar-05 | AA is not incorrect, but depending on the length of the material the conversion may only need to compress to 80% or so. Nero can give good results all by itself, you can use DVD-Shrink (free) and get it to do an extra pass analysis to make sure the compression is done well. ALso, you could get a DL (dual layer) DVD burner. |
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bri_guy Unregistered guest | i used ulead movie factory 3 and used the med quality...and the results were just that...granted im taking something recorded from tv to vcr to dv to comp, but it still lowered quality. im trying the high quality burn now. If it isnt really good im going to wallmart to get a dvd burner that can be hooked up to the tv and/or camcorder...i saw one for 140 bucks...the brand was I/O??? oh by the way the program was only a 100 mb download but takes up 20 gigs??? |
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bri_guy Unregistered guest | bri_guy ok guys this it it...the high quality burn works perfect...as far as using another program it is saved as a mpeg file and dvd shrink and nero cant burn it...unless im doing something wrong. A little over an hour of high quality video footage is fine for me. |
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bri_guy Unregistered guest | i was wrong it isnt 20 gb...i dont know what i twas looking at...i think i had a bunch of movie file on my comp...its 108 mb like it said. I think ill buy this prog when the free trial is up Also i think nero will burn it. I have a DL burner anyone know how to make a DL burn...that way id have 2+ hours. Also the prog will only burn at 2.4 speed regardless of burner speed. Anyways this is great news....now we just have to shop around for a good price. Well i guess ill enjoy the 30 day free trial |
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Awesome A Productions Unregistered guest | Ya, ok aslong as everything was fixed, if you have any more questions you want answered within the 24 hours, I update my own post section. It is in the camcorder menu, or go to this link: https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/photography/125903.html |
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Awesome A Productions Unregistered guest | Ya, ok aslong as everything was fixed, if you have any more questions you want answered within the 24 hours, I update my own post section. It is in the camcorder menu, or go to this link: https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/photography/125903.html |
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Unregistered guest | I am using SONY-DCR-TRV355. While I was trying to capture mpeg using USB (software Image Mixer 1.5), I was successin the capturing the movie only but not sound. I need help in this regard who have faced such problem. |
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Unregistered guest | HI! Im new to this things, I have a jvc camcorder can you recommend for me whats the best software to use when converting the mini dv tapes of my camcorder to cd or dvd?I really need transfer the mini dv's to cd/dvd for compilations... Thank you so much and hoping to hear from you soon.. Best regards |
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mac_loves_dv Unregistered guest | You should all buy a Macintosh! (www.apple.com) Saves deskspace, headaches and time..... |
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z123123 Unregistered guest | Hey there, it seems that no one has an idea to my problem/issue... here it is again.. if anyone can help, it would be much appreciated...thanks.. i own a sony IP7 camera which uses MicroMV (MMV) Technology (basically, small cassettes inside the machine). when i transfer files via the firewire cable, they are automatically set to .MMV . the only option using Movie Shaker 3.1 (supplied software) is to export the files as an MPEG1. Are there any good softwares out there that convert MMV to MPEG2 (DVD Quality) or just another software that captures straight from the camera to MPEG2 encoding Help is much appreciated. |
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Unregistered guest | Listen as a professional , and wroked in transfering video to dvd. You can get as good quality on MINI DV to DVD . I used a very simple non expensive system called a HP MOVIEWIRTER 3000 Just used a cable that plugeed in to my Panasonic MINI DV camera. adn wnet in to moviewriter, the item camome with HP editing software andbefore you know it was converted. When creating dvd yuou have to use hi quality frequency 7mb per sec, but HP software allows you to put it on Smart Rendering and does the ebst to fit the DVD. The quality of my MINI DV's are the same a play back through a camera. Check it out at HP's web site. Not making HP to be great but this works fine |
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Anonymous | I'd like some opinions. I'm a communications student. I have access to the best quality of everything I could want to create any kind of film I could want. However, I need to acquire the materials needed to do it myself, without having to rent cameras or use the school's editing bays. Here is what I'm working with: I own a new Mac Powerbook. I own a LaCIE firewire drive with 160 GB of space. I am going to purchase Final Cut. I am going to purchase a camera. I have iDVD on my Mac. So here are my questions: 1. I would like to purchase Final Cut Express HD at the student price of $150, rather than Final Cut Pro HD for $1000. What are the consequences of getting the cheaper version? I've heard that I can't work on a project in one program and then open it in the other... 2. What kind of camera should I get? It should be relatively portable, but a compact size is not a priority. I'd like to be able to use MiniDV, because that's what I use at school. Can I transfer directly from MiniDV into Final Cut using only a firewire cable? I think I'm right on track with what I have so far, and I want to make my next purchases just as carefully. Thanks. |
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Unregistered guest | Hi, I am trying to record home movies to my pc using a firewire and exporting it as avi file but evry 4 seconds of recording the video stops, I am using windows movie maker. Do I need a better pc or good driver, please inform where I can find such driver? My pc specs are P3 1GHz 64mbvga. Please help me. Thanks. |
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Stacey Unregistered guest | i have a JVC mini DV and I use Imagemicxer software. I have the camcorder connected to the PC with IEEE 1394 and I am able to "control the dv" from my PC when in Imagemixer improt screen (ie I can play, rr, ff, etc.) when I try to capture my stills or video for that matter it does nothing! The monitor screen where the video should be playing on the PC is black. The software recognizes there is a cassette in and I can watch it on my camcorder...but can not capture anything. What am I missing?? |
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Unregistered guest | I use dvdSanta.It copies to DVD directly from MiniDV.Do a search you can find it for $23.98 here http://www.alldigitalguide.com/dvdsanta20.htm?OVRAW=dvdsanta&OVKEY=dvdsanta&OVMT C=standard or here http://www.deprice.com/dvdsanta2.htm This is the Software webpage. http://www.dvdsanta.com/ |
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New member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 1 Registered: Apr-05 | hey everyone here is the real goods on home dvd's... k ... ? ready? .... #1: know your camera, all home level camera, miniDV, digital 8's, etc... use usb 1.0. to transfer using usb is much to slow for high quality film work. your capture will "drop frames" and other stuff related to slow transfer will happen. ie: Bad Quality.....!!! #2: make sure you have firewire port or card installed first! insatll this card before you install your camera'a crappy software! this will ensure a smooth go on the card. if you must use software from camera mfg read the instructions!!! if you need drivers for the camera install them now after card is proper.... #3: know your end format!!! if you are trying to make dvd's make sure your format is correct for dvd, if it's video tape you will need to know that AVI will be recorded back onto TAPE!!! #4: it does not matter what computer you are using. mac or pc whatever same crap different pile. they will both capture and edit flawless video. if you have an old p3 800 mhz you might be lacking a bit but mine here at home does just right... #5: turn off all that crap your running in the background...!!!!!!!!!!!!! all that messenger crap and all that extra firewall/antivirus stuff will consume your quality of the video's and slow your machine down to a grueling 9 hours... yikes... most xp machines slimed down on resources will accomlish this task very well... #6: connect your camera to the firewire port and turn it on to playback mode... xp should recognize it with no probs... if it does not then you will need to grab the disc that came with the camera... when xp see's camera it will show you it down on right by the clock... #7 most software supplied by mfgr will suck beans. i use adobe premier pro for software. but have used msi videowave and sony pixela to capture... they all work fine for capturing... it is important to know that capturing is much different from editing and compressions... don't worry bout this yet... you just want raw video off the camera... make sure you have a large hard drive as mentioned uncompressed video is very large... around 15-17gigs per hour.. if you are capturing analog video from old tapes filmed like in the 80's the video will be much larger than that... rougly 120 gigs for every 18 minutes.. !!! wow that's HUUUUGE... in anycase read the software instructions for the best results .. k.. #8: if all is right at this point nmow it's time to capture... phew long ways... to go.. first i want to say that some computer configurations are different.. mening that software and hardware will respond differently.. for example: if you turn on camera then connect to computer firewire then open capture program things don't work... try different ways such as connect camrea to firewire then open program then turn on camera... this can be frusterating but it did happen to me when i turned on camera's first in older software the software told me no source can be found until i did it different... then it worked.. 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Do not just throw hand in air to give up... k #9: if your camera is funcitoning with computer correctly and if it is a digital camera you will be able to control stop-play-pause-ff-rew from the program itself... if not then something in chain is wrong check your system and wires... i'm not saying your an idiot or that you are new and ask for help but this has happened to me... #10: first try default settings for capturing video.... most dv capturing will have no settings to change... but software pack your using may have weird settings... dv is dv and will always be dv... so when you connected to firewire your computer and software should know that it is dv... check settings in software pack your using and make sure it is set to dv ieee 1394 for a source.. ok.. #11: make sure you know where it is going!!! the saved video will be needed later to edit so maked sure you made a proper folder for it or you know where the default folder is... k ... #12: click the record button in your software and go to town capturing... firewire is fast like usb 2.0 these two connects are suitable for video.. they can carry the huuuuuge information of 1's and 0's that make video... k... capture in clips if you are planning to edit a lot of scenes... that covers capturing... now time to edit and export to dvd's using your software you will edit and export the finished product to a new folder somewhere for creation of a dvd... right? ... so this is how you do it on your old p3 800 mhz... or better if you have one.. #1: first you need to know the capabilities of your software you are using... and your codecs installed on your system.. if you are unsure you can check by doing this: start-run- then type ( dvdupgrd.exe /detect ) without brackets this will tell you if you have a dvd codec suitable on your machine.. k... most crappy software from camera's mfgr will not likely do this job you will have to use a different program... sorry but it's true.. don't believe salesman when he tells you it will work cuz 9 out of 10 times it will NOT.. k? #2: dvd's are mpeg 1 and mpeg 2 formats you have already learned that they are compression codecs's so that means in order for star wars to fit on a dvd it would take about 40 gigs of space..right? 15-17 gigs per hour of uncompressed dv video = 1 hour of video right? to big for dvd + or - r's so we need to compress them with mpeg... here is thing to know about mpeg... most encoders included in most cheap software will result in poorer quality than that of the origional... #3: the best way around this is use more expensive software or buy an encoder that is better... your choice... but make sure what ever you buy you read and research your stuff first... i recomend TMPGEnc this encoder was produced with moving pictures experts group standars so it will create beuatiful dvd's... k but if you don't have it try a few things with the one you have... #4: some software calls thing different from others so to export your edited video i'm jsut going to say export it ok cuz son'y is defferent than MSI etc... but in adobe you would export your selections and when exporting it may ask you for a few settings... i can only recomend exporting the finished edited work in as raw format as possible... to your folder for dvd's... choose mpeg 1 or 2 for the export format if available in your program.. if not.. choose avi... #5: watch your exported video on your computer to make sure it is fine... if it is go to 6... if it's crappy try again same export process but this time chang video settigns to a higher resolution etc.. bit rate increases will return good results... make sure also that if your film is in widescreen that your video editing is that also different import export settings will affect quality if the computer is having to change these aspect ratio's on they fly all of the time... #6: load your finished video into TMPGEnc and encode it for dvd's... you may get errors that your mpeg is not compliant depending on your editing software codecs, it may say somethign like "gop" stucture invalid or something.. k ? so don't worry we can get round this by using divx or avi if we have to... if it's good and no errors then you can create a folder to save this TMPGEnc encoded video to.. let is do it's thing to that folder.. when done use TMPGDVD Author to create menus and burn to dvd... this is best lossless method i have found to date... when the authoring software is done you will be asked to burn to dvd place in dvd and say ok to let it do it's thing... and you will end up with a great dvd that will play in first generation playstation 2's... not to bad huh... :D phew sorry for that long drawn out example but i felt everyone was mystified by something a lot of people don't know much about.. if you have some gop problems or things like that you may use something like dr divx to convert to divx then convert that divx to dvd using VSO divx-dvd converter it works very well and i have used it many time with no noticable loss from origional divx file... so if your have probs then export as AVI then convert to divx then use VSOdivx-dvd converter... it is easier to use that your camera... and makes great video's... cheers.. chico |
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New member Username: PonlorkPhnom PenhCambodia Post Number: 1 Registered: Apr-05 | Hi I'm using USB 2. But if I change to wire fire, should i need to install its drive? Does the PC automatically know my MiniDV? |
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New member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 2 Registered: Apr-05 | If you are using Windows XP home or professional it is likely that you will not need to install drivers... make sure that your firwire cars is recognized and is working first in you hardware manager... plug in firewire cable and turn on camera... if windows xp makes noise it is seeing the camera... cheers |
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234567890-]=-0987543211 Unregistered guest | Im using a panasonic mini dv camcorder and it wont transfer video with the supplied software what program should i use. |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 118 Registered: Mar-05 | 234567890-]=-0987543211, Use the software that was supplied with your firewire card (if you purchased one), or Windows MovieMaker if firewire was built into your PC and you are running XP. If neither of these apply to you, I'll recommend downloading Roxio VideoWave or Ulead VideoStudio. In all cases, use firewire, of course. Cheers. |
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New member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 3 Registered: Apr-05 | 234567890-]=-0987543211 look at my post above... and try different connecting methods.. like turn on cam - connect to pc then start software... etc etc try more than one ... |
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What to buy? Unregistered guest | Hi there, I have a Toshiba P4 laptop with 1.84ghz Ram. I am urgently in need of transfering over 30 DVs to DVD and I am considering buying either a external DVD writer or a DVD standalone recorder (much like a VHS player). Can someone please advice me as to the difference in time and quality of the transfer between the 2 options. How much time would I need to take to transfer an hour of DV tape to DVD without editing if I were to use an external DVD writer considering the speed of the laptop I have. And how much faster would it be if I were to buy a DVD standalone recorder instead? Also, what's the difference in quality? Will appreciate any advice. Thanx!!! |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 132 Registered: Mar-05 | Dear What to buy, DV comes out of your camcorder in real time. If you just want an exact copy with no editing done, a set-top DVD recorder with i-link will probably be your best option. If you transfer it to a PC, you then have the headache of making a DVD for every tape. In my case, making DVDs on the PC only happens at one fifth of real time. Recording from camcorder to DVD in real time via a PC is a bit hairy, even if your PC is fast enough to support it. Quality should be the same both ways, namely DVD quality (MPEG-2) Hope that helps. |
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New member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 4 Registered: Apr-05 | personally i would capture it to my computer then burn the dvd's... if you have a firewire port on your laptop this should be fine... as for buying a dvd recorder i would prefer spending that money on the external burner for your pc... that way you will be able to burn dvd's of all kinds movie/games/photo's/backup's etc... you can not do this with a dvd recorder... it will only record video dvd's and will be useless for backing up your data... putting on your laptop will not take very long if you have it set up properly... if you only have on hard drive it will only slow you down a little bit and if that is not a major problem then i woudl buy the external dvd burner cheers chico;) |
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What to buy? Unregistered guest | Dear Gromit and Chico, Thank you for both your advice. I have decided to buy a dvd recorder since speed and convenience is of utmost importance. Plus, I will only be recording video. However, I wonder if any of you might be able to tell me if I should buy the Philips DVDR615 or the panasonic E60. I don't need a hard drive since I am not intending to record TV shows. I have heard that the Philips one is very not user friendly but I'm not sure about the Panasonic one. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance!! |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 142 Registered: Mar-05 | Dear What to Buy, Your are very welcome! I don't have much knowledge of DVD recorder models but I'm sure that if you go to this section of eCoustics: https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/8217.html , you will find somebody who will help you. Good luck with those tapes, and don't forget Chico's advice either - a DVD burner for your PC is a great investment for all kinds of purposes! Cheers. |
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Unregistered guest | thanks you all... while ido get ss, iam a novice to camcorders... iwant a vcr type mini dv player! maybe a combo vcr that would play vhs+mini dv+dvd+cd... am iasking for too much?? since istarted my internet research yesterday, iam thankful for all the helpful users sharing their knowledge!! also, as some have written, why arent the developers satisfying our needs? My initial desire is to have the following options for my friends and family.... a vcr type player to play a mini dv cassette that imight mail to them; similiar to the way vhs tapes are mailed and played. Or, during a visit imay bring mini dvs to play/enjoy.... thats a start, then imay want to put my mini dv cassette into a player and record it to dvd or dvr? help!!! idont really want to use a computer. thank you.... PTL...cpm/pjm ps.. iam not sure if ican find this place again... please email any constructive advice/thoughts directly to me thanks again with subject= mini dv ... beachballpop@aol.com pss... we have the canon optura 60 |
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New member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 5 Registered: Apr-05 | i do not know af any stand alone devices that can read and play all video like this... if anyone knows let me know.. as for your VHS and DVD's etc... VHS/DVD player's have been out for many years... they are good,,, but i have not found a player for Mini DV tapes.. you will most likely need to put these "canon optura 60" vids on your computer then burn to dvd... if the optura has s-video record the mini dv's to vhs with a good s-video compliant vhs/dvd machine. |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 189 Registered: Mar-05 | Here's my two-pence worth, I also never saw a "desktop" player for mini-DV tapes. I rather suspect that this is because the longest tape available is only 80 or 90 minutes which is fine for shooting home movies but too restrictive for recording TV shows (especially films) etc. Cheers. |
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Unregistered guest | I recently bought a miniDV camcorder. I transfered the video into my pc (it stored in .avi format). Every 10 mins is about 2GB. Is there any other format I can store the video in? I am also trying to burn the video into DVD. Normally how long does it take to burn a 60 mins tape into a DVD? |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 191 Registered: Mar-05 | okc177, Although the amount of space required for capturing DV as avi is very large, it is an excellent starting point for anything else you want to do. Video editing programmes can reduce the size of the file to pretty much anything you want depending on the compression algorithm (CODEC), pixel size and quality you choose DVD authoring programmes will give you a better than 75% reduction in file size while keeping quality easily good enough for playback on TVs Time to burn depends on your DVD burner, of course! The lengthiest part of DVD production is often the "rendering" or video processing, which can take many times the actual length of the video clip. Hope that helps. |
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HQ DVD Producer Unregistered guest | I skipped around in this thread looking for information on equipment for mini dv to dvd transfer. I also am looking for information on final cut pro and related editing and dvd authoring software that will produce high quality output. Does anyone know of websites to search for latest information on high quality dvd production from start to finish? HQ DVD Maker |
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Unregistered guest | Hi, I have a Sony DCR-TRV280 HandyCam the reason I bought this model was the fact that the insruction manual said I could transfer VHS tapes to the camera itself. Being really ignorant regarding these matters I assumed I could just connect the camera to the player and do it! After many tries I discovered the VCR needs to have an ilink. The trouble is not many VCR or VCR/DVD players have an ilink. Any suggestions? Desperate |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 241 Registered: Mar-05 | Sandra, After searching around here and there, I eventually found a review of your camera's specification: http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&lang Id=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1001052&navigationPath=32080n32082 which included the (for you) fatal words "video out", in other words, the analogue video port is for playback only. This is rather unlucky as most modern camcorders (I am really only familiar with DV type) do have the facility for recording analogue video. This is a relatively new development, so as your camera is an upgrade from a previous model, that might explain it. Any user guide that suggests using iLink to record from an analogue VCR should be dismissed as a piece of humurous journalism on the part of the author, in my view. My best suggestion for you is to take a completely alternative approach and buy a TV/capture card for your PC, such as those made by Leadtek. They're pretty cheap and you will get the video onto your PC in one go rather than via the camera (I'm assuming that making DVDs is your goal). Hope that helps. |
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New member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 6 Registered: Apr-05 | tv capture cards would be the best and most cost effective alternative to vhs - dv conversions. If you are a bit hesitant to open up your p.c. you can buy several usb/firwire external units that will do jsut fine... the best key for analog to dv is harware enocoding.. such as tv capture cards or dazzle / whoever or whatever brand... take work from your cpu to use for your sofware... HQ: ... If you own a Mac final cut pro is your ony needed solution... if you owv a dv camera why worry about dvd transfer... transfer to pc then author dvd with final cut or edit it... whatever you need. if you do not own a mac adobe premiere is great and so is vegas... pinnacle liquid is also good.. and if you have firwire or usb 2.0 on your machine. your set... cheers |
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HQ DVD Producer Unregistered guest | Thank you Chicomangh. I have or will have most of the items you suggested. The only thing now is to get busy learning! Thanks again, HQ |
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benefits consulting Unregistered guest | I HAVE THE ANSWER. Buy a DVD r recorder and Hard Drive. Plug your firewire in and record! They are around $300 and you can Burn your video onto the hard drive and it can automatically convert to your DVD. This is cheaper than the Mac and it is a one button push conversion. Believe me I have tried it all except the Pinnacle 500 Plus which I just ordered with Adobe. Stay tuned.... |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 316 Registered: Mar-05 | benefits consulting, Thanks for that, it certainly is an easy way to get video off DV tape and onto a DVD. Do you ever need to edit your DV footage? If so, what are your experiences with editing mpg files from DVD? If editing IS required, then I guess the main benefit of your idea is to eliminate the tricky (for some) step of using the camcorder-PC firewire link. Cheers. |
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Unregistered guest | Please help me! I'm a newbie, my first camcorder is a DCR DVD203 Sony Mini DVD. I missed all the fun of VHS/HI-8/DV etc.. I don't know what to do. We got this camcorder the day we left for vacation and using it was fun and we have about 10 DVD-R and RW's. The software that comes with it will only allow me to burn back thru the camcorder to a Mini DVD and I would like to put these on big disks. 1.) Is there a reason I can not find software so I can drop the recorded Mini DVD into my DVD-Rom drive and bring it into my computer to edit it and burn it back out to my CD-RW? This would seem to be better than running my camcorder to death. 2.)What software will be easy for a non-tech person of age (52) to understand and use. I don't want to copy real movies I just want to do light edit and compile my home movies onto big CD's or DVD's. (because they hold more and are cheaper than these Mini DVD's!) 3.) I don't want to go and trust some of the sales people as to what I need because they have already had me making returns on stuff that will not work with this camcorder. |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 332 Registered: Mar-05 | dipswitch, Have you tried placing the mini-DVDs in your computer and seeing if Windows Explorer can read them? Not all DVD drives support the mini disks so you might want to check before trying this. If your computer DOES read the disks (or you have a spare slot to fit a second drive that will), then from there it is just a matter of choosing editing software (e.g. Ulead VideoStudio) that can work with the MPEG files generated by your camcorder. Please let me know the outcome. Cheers. |
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Unregistered guest | ok heres how it is. you cant put a dv movie to dvd without losing a lot of the color quality and making pixelation becasue dv is compressed as it is a lot , but when you convert to mpeg2 to put on dvd, youre compressing again thus making image a lot worse, i dont buy all that mac crap and hp direct recorders. it all does the same stuff! dont believe it. . movie makers only compress stuff once and if theyre using digital cameras then they compress it a lot less with the camera not to mention using much better lighting and they have monitors that see what it will look like on tv so they can color correct it.we cant get pro quality unless we buy bro cameras and have hundreds of gigs to work with or use film and use a capture device of like a gig a second or something ridiculous. the video industry needs to make it so we dont have to recompress the video we edit to get it on dvd.but thats impossible right? |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 344 Registered: Mar-05 | yngvae2, With the next generation of DVDs, that can hold up to 30G (or 50G, depending on which standard wins) it will be possible in theory to comfortably transfer an hour of DV recorded on domestic camcorders without loss of quality. Whether the players and software will support .avi playback remains to be seen. Of course, in current domestic set-ups, you have to compromise. I did try a few programmes before settling on Ulead Moviefactory for DVD authoring. Quality was my only criterion. The result is not quite as good as original DV (which I am VERY satisfied with), but fine for my amateur purposes. By the way, I am using (and strongly believe in) PAL; not sure which side of that debate you place yourself on... Cheers. |
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New member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 7 Registered: Apr-05 | to all who need to know.... check out my post earlier on basics and =/-'s of dvd making... as for dv cam or mini dvd cams or any other camera using firewire/usb 2.0 this video will transfer as avi... if the camera makes mmv files all you need to do is convert... for example... minidisc cam = mmv's when i transfer from camera... open the mmv in window media 9 and save media as .mpg or .avi it will then encode the video to mpg or avi... i must say it does a pretty fine job at it... and the wm9 is free... so if you get mmv's from your cam jsut google it for yourself and find out how to convert them to mpg's or avi's there is a whole slew of products out there and many of them free free freeeeeee!!! i don't buy the get a mac or get a hd recorder blah blah blah... no need to spend money if you already have the tools all you need is a computer (any kind above p2) and a firewire or usb 2.0 card or input to that computer.;. as for no sound in your video using usb transfer with "image mixer 1.5" .... try checking your settings on the camera first... the microphone might be disabled in the settings menu of your camera... which means you didn't record audio with those video 's... if it is turned on then go to wrench icon in image mixer and check your settings...it may have a default setting to only capture video instead of video & audio... most camera's in digital domain record uncompressed video and audio... so you will need to have a bit of space on your hard drive to accomodate the transfer... this is to your advantage since it will allow for high quality home video's instead of low quality... minidv tapes are uncompressed video on a digital tape... i don't own a mini dvdr camera but i know that it must be compressed to record onto the dvd's... thus making transfering of these movies a chunky process since it like the other guy said "already compressed to fit on the dvdr's" that being said... don't buy a dvdr camera... you will only hate the quality of finished edited work since it was already compressed to fit on that dvd or minidvd... i prefer using digital tapes (beta, mini dv cassete, digital 8's etc...) but the best is film... we do not have money to buy the components needed for film to digital... so ensure that your camera you want to buy is not using dvd r's to record to... that will reult in quality loss since compression will reoccur numerous times by the time you go to put back on a dvd to play in home theatre.... stick with the origionals... stiking as close to origionals as you can when editing.. for example... transfer to computer, then leave the file format as it is from camera. do editing to origional uncompressed files... then export as your desired file... avi,mpg1-or2, wmv, etc... your resulting quality will be much better... the reason i tell you this is because if you convert to mpeg before editing your software may have choppy performance if it is not the native software settings to use that file type... if software wants to work in avi let it do so... if your software captures from the camera in mpeg and you don not want it to (i don't recommend it) you may want to try a different software package... as always i recommend adobe premiere pro.. but it is expensive... 500 - 1000 dollars depending where you are in the world... so if thats not an option you can try adobe "elements" it is a home version of premiere and it works perfectly... you will have all that is needed for home editing and it only costs around 100 - 200 dollars (depending where in world you are)... there are numerous devices out there for gettign video into the computer no matter what platform you use... as for the mac questions... i love mac... and i love pc's i use them both for same things and they both work well... i movie for mac is fine for most home uses... but final cut express will have more options and less features than final cut pro... hope this helps cheers... |
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Unregistered guest | Dear all I have a very old digital video camera recorder (Sony DCR-PC1) and recorded many mini DV tapes. I will very much like to convert the tape to a DVD format and have no clue how to do it. Can you some of you help on this matter? Thank you so much! Simon |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 391 Registered: Mar-05 | Simon, It's a 2 step process: 1) Transfer your video to your PC (preferably using firewire) and edit it 2) Create and burn a DVD See www.videohelp.com for guides. Cheers. |
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Anonymous | Simon, I am in the same situation. Older digital camcorder (with firewire output) and older computer (with firewire card). I have no DVD burner but I have a CD burner. I am researching whether to buy an external DVD recorder or add one to my PC. I am not interested in award winning videos but would at least like to make sure all of my footage is on disk for safe storage. I was an 'early adopter' of mini DV and 'Firewire' and have cables and connections but have not done much in the last six years. To all who read this thread...the same problems existed in 1998 when I bought my camcorder. There was no way to easily and reliably transfer digital video tape to disk (either vcd or dvd). It really upsets me that eight years later we still have the same problems (however, a lot more companies trying to capitalize on the problem). I am tempted to just go back to still photography but I can't find anyone with inexpensive 'Flashcubes' ;) |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 398 Registered: Mar-05 | Anonymous, You could try here: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64354%26item%3D7528510360% 26%26 Cheers. |
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New member Username: ZiyilitonyMaryland Heights, Missouri USA Post Number: 3 Registered: Jul-05 | Hi, I have a problem to transfer video movies from video camera to my computer. I have a sony DCR-HC 21 video camera. When I used fire wire 1394 cable to perform this transfer, video movies can be transferred, but date on the movies cannot be transferred. I can see the date on the screen of video camera, but captured video movies did not have date. When I playback the transferred movies on the computer, quality and sound was pretty good, but there was no date on the movies. Software I used to capture video came with the video camera I bought. That is called "Picture Package". Dose anyone know how to solve this problem?? I have struggled to solve this problem for very long time. Thanks, |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 418 Registered: Mar-05 | I have already answered this question on the other page where you posted. |
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Unregistered guest | My operating sytem is windowXP home ed. I cannot get the sound when I export my movie from movie shaker.The sounds are jambled and is not making any sence |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 426 Registered: Mar-05 | manabendra, Try a different video editing programme such as Ulead VideoStudio or Roxio VideoWave. Cheers. |
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Unregistered guest | Hi, I have this Mini DV JVC GR-D270U, i tried to transfer, the movie to the pc using ULead Video Studio 9, but the message coming are " Either no video capture driver is installed in this system, or no device is connected." where can i find this video capture driver? Nothing on the CD software included with the JVC. |
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New member Username: Manoj56Post Number: 1 Registered: Jul-05 | I have seen the responses above in regards to sending the miniDV video to the PC via a firewire in its raw form. I would like some more clarification on how to do this. I am using Ulead VIdeoStudio7. It is pulling it into the PC with a video studio extention. When I am done editing I click on "share" and select create a DVD. Once this process starts it converts the file into a format to burn to the DVD. THe DVD's look terrible once played on my big screen. What types of settings etc do I have to change to get the VS7 to pull the video from the miniDV in the raw form. WOuld I burn this raw form video to the DVD to play on my DVD player? IF not then what do I have to do to get this onto my DVD. If someone could expand on the option listed above option to use Microsoft's Media Encoder 9 so you can play standard DVD player with even better picture quality small DiVX size files I would greatly apprieciate it. |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 439 Registered: Mar-05 | Manoj, 1) In VideoStudio, ensure the capture setting is "DV-PAL" or "DV-NTSC" according to where you live. You can change that at the start of each new project or capture session. The file should be imported as .avi. You can view that as being identical to "raw DV". 2) Use a DVD authoring package such as Ulead Moviefactory to make and burn your DVDs for playback on a set-top box. 3) I can't help you with Microsoft's Media Encoder 9, sorry. Does your DVD player support Microsoft's Media Encoder 9? Cheers. |
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New member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 8 Registered: Apr-05 | manoj raw dv video is AVI choose that setting if available or choose mpeg-2 or mepeg -1 for DVD if you use AVIyou will need a program to convert into mpeg -2 but that option might be in your current software. when choosing these options take the time to click through your menu's and check all the settigns for each preset... 2 pass encoding is the right choise for DVD cheers |
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New member Username: Manoj56Post Number: 2 Registered: Jul-05 | Thanks for the responses. I am assuming that Ulead MOviefactory is the software that will convert from AVI to MPEG2. I have seen HDD camcorders out there, JVC MC500 as an example, that say that they record in MPEG2. Would it be better to get this type of camera so that this conversion process is not required? I am just starting to get into camcorders so I am still learning. I basically want to be able to video family events as well as kids sports. I need to be able to get good quality video on DVD to send to family and schools in North America. I am still not convinced which camera, software and process will accomplish this for me. Again your help is greatly approeciated. |
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New member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 9 Registered: Apr-05 | manoj i'm not absoultley sure about ulead moviefacotry since i have not personally used it. but it should do that conversion... if it does not you can buy "adobe premier elements" around $140 dollars... but i would bet that ulead does this conversion during your export of finished works... your camera is fine and digital video is digital video so the quality of your captures will not be the issue... the problem you are having is with the dvd format output from ulead movie factory... it may be a low standard output from that software encoder... try "tmpgenc" check my previous post on burining dvd's with good quality... if your camera is digital you will not need to buy a new camera just a new software package... cheers |
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New member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 10 Registered: Apr-05 | i have a quick question for anyone who knows and i thank you for your help in advance ... does anyone know of a good miniDV camera that is "widescreen" capable? around the 500 dollar mark? i have several cameras and would like a mini dv model that will record Widecreen formats... cheers |
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Unregistered guest | I am trying to make a VCD from my new SONY HCR 21 mini Dv camcorder. The picture perfect software provided by SONY is unable to recognise my CD-R drive. Is there any way to solve this? |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 452 Registered: Mar-05 | chandragiri, I am not familiar with Sony software, but if you are willing to spend some $$, it might be worth getting a copy of the Nero package including Nero VisionExpress (VCD authoring) and Nero express (CD buring). Hope that helps. |
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sbgjones Unregistered guest | I have a JVC mini DV and I use Imagemixer, WinDVD, and MovieMaker software. I have the camcorder connected to the PC with IEEE 1394 and I am able to "control the dv" from my PC when in software capture screen (ie I can play, rr, ff, etc.) when I try to capture my stills or video for that matter it does nothing! The monitor screen where the video should be playing on the PC is black. The software recognizes there is a cassette in and I can watch it on my camcorder...but can not capture anything. What am I missing?? |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 467 Registered: Mar-05 | sbgjones, This "black screen" is likely a Windows-related problem. What exact OS are you running? Cheers. |
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Unregistered guest | I have pinnacle studio 9 plus. I capture firewire (AVI) edit and burn a DVD (Mpeg-2). It seems to work very well for me. Question If I did the same thing in a more expensive software (adobe premier pro or liquid 6) would the finished product look better resolution wise and better picture quality or are there just more features in adobe or liquid? As far as I know the finished product in both cases is in Mpeg-2. Mpeg-2 is a codec? Is there a different Mpeg-2? Thanks mike |
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sbgjones Unregistered guest | Thanks for responding Gromit. I am running XP on a brand new computer. I downloaded Pinnacle studio 9 last night and got the same thing. Please help. Thanks. |
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Unregistered guest | My camera XL2 Canon doesn't take stills so I don't know how to bring them into studio 9 but check pinnacle website for the latest patch I think it's 9.4.1 they help alot and they have a Q & A section. http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Home/ |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 475 Registered: Mar-05 | sbgjones, I still have OS suspicions. Might be worth you taking a look at these Microsoft patches: Windows XP Patch: Inconsistent Gap Count Can Cause 1394 Devices to Not Enumerate http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9E8DF3F3-CD0C-4EDB-936A -5F0043E88BB2&displaylang=en Update for Windows XP (KB885222) After you install Windows XP Service Pack 2, some 1394 devices (such as digital cameras that use S400 speed) may not perform as expected. Install this update to help prevent this issue. After you install this update, you will have to restart your computer http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ca0f2007-18b5-4112-8bd6 -8bf4bd3130b9&DisplayLang=en Have you also tried your camcorder on a friend's computer? Cheers. |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 476 Registered: Mar-05 | supermeatball, Before settling on my current DVD authoring software, I tried several and concluded that my eventual choice (Ulead Moviefactory) gave the best quality result. So far as I understand, the conversion of .avi to MPEG-2 is a deterministic process so in theory they should all be the same. However, it does seem that some implementations perform better. Price might not be the best indicator of likely performance, though. I'd recommend a few tests to see which one works best with your system and suits your own viewing preferences. Cheers. |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 481 Registered: Mar-05 | sbgjones, Another OS-related issue that might be affecting you is an incorrect or missing CODEC. I don't have a specific debugging tip for this yet. Cheers. |
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Unregistered guest | Cool thanks Gromit I like studio 9 plus I was just wondering what the big difference in price was about. I have liquid 6 but my computer struggles with it. 2.04 gig amd 2800 1g ram they say at least 3 gigs sbgjones I know studio 9 will not work with Sp2 as soon as I loaded it I had lots of problems with a few programs if you want you could remove sp2. In add and remove programs. I did and everything works again. Microsoft has a web link about compatablity with sp2 and pinnacle was on the list. Also musicmatch will miss up studio 9 I had to remove it to. |
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Silver Member Username: GromitPost Number: 483 Registered: Mar-05 | supermeatball, Wow, 3Gig of RAM required! I thought I was being generous to my computer upgrading it to 256M recently. I think that normlly, it's professional editing features that push software price very high. But I'm not really expert in this area. Can you give me a URL for SP2 compatibility? Couldn't find on the MS web site.... (and by the way, I am running W2K so an XP-resident piece of software is no good) Cheers. |
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Bronze Member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 11 Registered: Apr-05 | hi liquid 6 is best suited for dual processors... so it will chunk along with your amd as it is not the best proc for thise type of computing... liquid 6 is similar to adobe premiere but has added live mixing capabilities so 3 gigs of ram would be required to mix several camera's on one computer for broadcasts... probably not suited to your use or machine... as fo mpeg 2 yes dvd's are mpeg 2 but not all software encodes proper GOP structures... leaving room for undesired results when encoding... i find my best results are with adobe products... namely premiere and elements... adobe's encoding stucture will standardize the mpeg to work flawlessly with dvd authoring software. i found that pinnacle encoded dvd's can be choppy... this can be a matter of machine differences but still i get perfect dvd's everytime from adobe... i also get very good results with "tmpgenc" so what i usually do for dvd's is this... first edit in prefered editing software... export edited work as raw as possible (avi or other) (depends on software u are using and what is native to that software) if it offers avi us that (files will be very large) then encode to dvd using tmpgenc this should yeild great results.. cheers |
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sbgjones Unregistered guest | Thanks gromit. I tried to download the patches and it tells me they are not available, that I should search for them. I will continue to work on that. I will try the camcorder on another computer and see if it will work. Thanks for all your advice. sbgjones |
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Unregistered guest | Thanks for all the information gromit & Chico. I ask this question at film & video school and they were not to sure why. Wasn't very happy with my school they didn't teach well. Gromit this list was longer back in January. Oh and they said 3 gigs processor 1 gig ram min. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842242 So Chico you telling me I could capture and edit with studio 9 and then render it as a AVI and then Import the AVI file to better DVD authoring software (instead on pinnacles) and get a better looking finished product? The premier elements you mentioned is that the one I see for about $99.00? And you feel that it will render as well as premier and premier pro to some extent do they all use similar GOP structures Thanks Mike |
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Unregistered guest | Oh yea I looked up my codec dvdupgrd.exe /detect it's PCLEMPEGBOX.AX any good? Can it be change? Thanks Mike |
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Bronze Member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 12 Registered: Apr-05 | sbgjones: sorry i wanted to answer your question as well but went off on a rant that made me forget your problem... you using image mixer by pixela? right? and when you turn on camera you can operat it but see no captures... i think your problem is this... i have used image mixer and found a few quirks with it... one is that when you open software then connect camera and turn on camera it recognizes it and you can control it but can't see what is on the tape... try connecting camera first and turning on when windows beeps and tells you it's connected then try opening software... some of the bundled softwares that come with camera's can be quirky like this... try several different methods similar to this i make mention of this on an earlier post above please check that post out... very long drawn out but i have found that it works with some software bundles... cheers chico |
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Bronze Member Username: ChicomanghPost Number: 13 Registered: Apr-05 | supermeatball: "Premiere Elements" is basically home version of "Premiere Pro" without pro features... it is the home level version and yes it will encode mpeg 2 with standardized "gop" structures... it works beautifully for any home level needs and is dual processor supported... but will work just fine on single proc units... if you purchased studio 9 ulead i'm sorry if it doesn't produce the quality you want but if you need good quality i'd recommend adobe... you will only need elements package for home use and yes 99 bucks sounds about right... pro will cost around $700 so $99 is most affordable... if your studio 9 exports mpeg 2? try playing that expoted work back and see if it's any good... i don't think ulead would sell you crap since you would only have to return it at a loss to them... if it plays well on your machine in mpeg 2 then your problem will be in the actual dvd burning and conversion to VOB files or Video_Ts this could be that the implementations of the mpeg 2 codec is not quite awsome with their bundle.. which would suck... try the mpeg 2 in "tmpgenc" if it kicks it back with error of "gop" structures then you know that the sofware sucks... and should return it... tmpgDVD authour will also inform you of this error.. but who wants to go out and buy a pile of software to find out if one works or not? those two apps work hand in hand for authoring dvd's... before going out to buy them check your ulead studio 9's settings make sure your bit rates are high and quality settigns are high 2 pass encoding should be available with studio 9 in setting setup and if it is not then it would just be a substandard application... let me know what you find... hope this helps... as for your codec that is probably the one that came bundled with ulead studio 9 i can't say with any professional experience how good it is but try to find codec from MPEG "moving pictures expert group" they developed "mpeg" and i find it's the best oneand it's freee... also the "Fraunhofer Institute" mpeg encoder is very close to it... may cost a bit of coin but it is also know as "direct show" it may be free i'm not sure... if you can find them try installing them first b4 you rush out to buy anymore software... k let me know what happens dude cheers |
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sbgjones Unregistered guest | Gromit, I tried the patches at microsoft, didn't work. And waiting to open the software didn't work either. Do you have any other advice for me. Sbgjones |