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Awesome A Productions
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Do You have a question about the following?

Transfering
Right Video Camera
Firewire
Editing
Programs
DVD
Burning
Formats
Transitions + Effects
Sharing
Other

Leave a question and I will answer them back in this post. (please do not answer some one else's questions)
 

Cybersnake1334
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Yes, I have A Question About Transfering video, What is the best way to transfer it?
 

Cybersnake1334
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Yes, I have A Question About Transfering video, What is the best way to transfer it?
 

Cybersnake1334
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Yes, I have A Question About Transfering video, What is the best way to transfer it?
 

Awesome A Productions
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The best way to transfer video depends on the camera that you have. The best way to transfer video from a Mini DV camera is through fire wire. But I would never use a USB to transfer video because the qaulity and transfer rate in horrible. If you using S-Video the you should purchase a convertor. If this doesn't answer it then go to:

http://www.digitalvideomadeeasy.com
 

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I have a Sony Handycam DCR-HC32 NTSC, and when I transfer the video on the miniDV to my computer using the supplied software ( Picture Package Video Capturing Tool), the filesizes are over 3 gigabytes for only around 8 minutes. I know videos are big but they shouldn't be this big. Any ideas on what is wrong?
 

Awesome A Productions
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Ok... Well If the software gives you a choice f changing it's format, then you could change the file size from such a big (very high quality)file to a smaller file. But I don't think that could be possible? Unless the camera your using is an HD (high definition camera) camer. Are you sure that the file doesn't say..
---> MB- Megabytes <-----
KB- Kilobytes
GB- Gigabytes
 

New member
Username: Utbman

Albuquerque, NM USA

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-05
I have a weird question. I have a JVC mini dv camera. I have something very important on the tape, but the person who put the tape in didn't close the tape holder correctly, which resulted in lost footage. However, when I fast-forward over the section of footage, I can see what we taped. Any idea how we can retrieve that footage?
 

Awesome A Productions
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Well- Teddy Armijo, I also have a JVC mini DV camrera myself, and I have also had that problem. Except i didn't exactly close it worng. The tape of mune was ruined because the camera ripped it appart. I know you can probably see the video when you fast foward it, but I wouldn't recomend keep playing it like that because the tape will ruin your camera. Mine had to be fixed for 3 months. I recomend that you leave what ever is on the tape... but you could tske the tape to like walmart... where they put things from tape to dvd, they might get the vidoe . but im not completely sure.
 

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Is there a Cable that I can connect directly from my video camera which has both s-Video and a/v output alone with a headphone port to my pc via both usb 1.1 and 2.0
Thank you for any help in advance.
 

New member
Username: Lui_m

Post Number: 2
Registered: Mar-05
I have a Panasonic PV-DV 900 minidigital palmcorder and I use a firewire to connect to the computer. I use Windows Movie Maker and ULead software to handle the video. The video transfers fine to the computer. I manipulate it with MovieMaker but when I tried to dump it back to the video camera, it says it can't see any device. I saved it as a movie, played in on the computer with RealAudio and it plays perfect. I imported the .avi file into ULead and then tried to dump it to the video camera and it worked except that at a number of points on the tape, it looks like the camera couln't keep up with the feed...stutters, slows up for a few seconds and then continues ok. Someone mentioned trying to find updated communication drivers for my video camera but I can't find anything at the Panasonic site....can you help?
 

Awesome A Productions
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Newfie_player-

I dont't think that there is a cord like that. Well, i have a cord that came with my JVC mini DV carmera and it is an s-video to a/v. But there is no cord that has that as usb. I don't thouroly understand your question?!?! But I have a sense. What type of camera do you have, and what availible ports on your compter re there?
 

Awesome A Productions
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Lui Marnelli-

It probably is the software update. If you have SP2 (service pack 2) then that may help because there is a new driver for detecting cam corders. Also I think it may be the file format. Real Audio may not be the best for your palm corder.

http://www.microsoft.com
search for SP2 download

hope this helped
 

New member
Username: Lui_m

Post Number: 3
Registered: Mar-05
How to transfer VHS to digital video camera...or do I need to buy a capture card and run the VHS directly to the computer
 

Awesome A Productions
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OOOO.. ok, Do you need a DVD burner also, because there is a DVD (external) burner with video converter from s-video to your computer. But I would proably buy the video capture card. It is much cheaper.
 

Awesome A Productions
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OOOO.. ok, Do you need a DVD burner also, because there is a DVD (external) burner with video converter from s-video to your computer. But I would proably buy the video capture card. It is much cheaper.
 

Newfie_player2000
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Thank You for responding me buddy.

My cam is not a DV Cam, just a HI 8.
The only way I can connect my camera is from the S-Video and mic port on my Hi 8 Camera, to an USB port or one of them old fashion printer ports on my pc,which is worthless I can imagine,lol.
Thanks again. It's nice what u r doing. :-)
 

New member
Username: Mista_weyt_lift

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-05
i have shot video of my son's school play using sony digital8 video that i've borrowed to my friend. I transferred it to my computer using windows movie maker and created vcd copy via nero. When i played it to my vcd player the quality is so poor unlike the original. I got a broadcast quality. Is this normal? I thought Digital8 camcorders will not lost its quality if transfered it to computer and into vcd. Pls help me....
Thanks!
 

New member
Username: Mista_weyt_lift

Post Number: 2
Registered: Mar-05
i almost forgot i transfered ot via firewire but still im disappointed about the results. Im planning to buy a mini dvcam but im thinking the quality of the results will be the same that i got in digital8 since they are both digital with firewire. Pls help
thanks
 

Awesome A Productions
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mista_weyt_lifta,

When making a VCD, the quality of the video is not as good as it were on a DVD or raw video. Any type of camera will lose it's quality video on a vcd. See, VCD's aren't normally made for video, just music and data. Fire wire is what I use with my DV camera, and since most programs let you choose with file format, you can keep the quality video... even for digital8 camera's. I would recommend using Dvd's because they are much more worth watching the vidoe's on.
 

New member
Username: Mista_weyt_lift

Post Number: 4
Registered: Mar-05
but why are the other videos had a good quality in vcd format? like some films.
 

Robin Cook
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Please save my day. I have a Sony DCR TRV25 and am trying to capture video using IEEE 394. Tried using various softwares but they don't identify the camcorder.
 

New member
Username: Stacey

Harrisville, Wv Usa

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-05
help please?? i have a canon ES50 video camcorder that uses 8mm tapes. i bought it at a yardsale and didnt get any info just got camera and charger.i need to know what kind of accessories to buy for it so i can watch my tapes on my vcr? also can u record the 8mm tapes to vcr? please help i dont have any idea what i am doing?
 

New member
Username: Dannyberry

Post Number: 2
Registered: Mar-05
have a canon zr-85, I have the firewire, but quality of trnsfered video is very poor (low quality) I have windows xp, as well as the software that comes from the canon camcorder, but I'm still getting low quality when I transfer from dv camcorder to my pc. What can I do to get high quality or dv quality to store on my pc and share on the internet with my family?? thank you
DB
 

NEeeeed Helppp
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hi a am trying to use a DV Camcorder with
Yahoo IM the camcorder is running through FireWire i know that windows works with it because i use it with MSN Messenger Yahoo Is not detecting the cam I Need HELP
 

New member
Username: Vukovin

Post Number: 3
Registered: Dec-03
I need help on compression formats and software to make it happen. This is my situation:

I coach AAU girls basketball. We film all our games (about 50 minutes on film). I use a Sony DCR-TRV50. I can transfer the games to my PC using Firewire with no problem. If I transfer the game over as an AVI the file size is about 11.5GB. If I use MPEG2 the file size is about 4GB. Obviously, I can use the MPEG2 format, but the quality does degradate. I want to burn the full game to DVD to send to college coaches so they can evaluate our kids for potential scholarships, so I want the best video possible. I have a Plextor PX-716A DVD burner and currently use the bundled Roxio software.

What recommendations do you have to transfer then burn the games at the highest quality possible, but still fit one game per DVD?
 

Kana
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I do not see the date when I transfer photos from my sony handicam to my PC, though I see it on the handicam LCD
 

Awesome A Productions
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Sorry I haven't been updateing my video section, i can no longer answer questions. Please foward your questions where they WILL be answered right away with a knowlegable answer.
Gromit is a bronze member. He is very smart with video.

https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/photography/4839.html
 

gani
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I have sony Digital8, I could transfer movies from it to my laptop, but audio is not copied. When I play back all I could see is blank movie-no audio. What am I missing ?
 

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Username: Passarino

Post Number: 2
Registered: Mar-05
I am trying to capture video from my Sony Handycam to my computer so I can burn DVD's. I have been able to do this but the video comes out very slow like in frames. How can I make the captures come out smoothly like the original. Im using both Nero, and Imagemixer and am connected through USB using windows XP.
 

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I have a JVC MiniDV model:GR-DVL320U and as far as I have been able to read up about this model it seems that I cannot transfer video from the miniDV tape(while it's still in the camcorder) to computer. The manual says I can do still photos but it says nothing about video. Is there a way to do it with this camcorder using firewire with (??? software) or is there a PC attachment that accepts miniDV tapes to stream into the computer??? I want the quality of the miniDV recording on PC so I can burn it to DVD.
 

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Username: Jtwlaw

Post Number: 2
Registered: Apr-05
I have a sony trv240 handycam. I was using the camera to watch a video on the TV. While i was operating the camera it stopped working. It seems that it has no power. The battery nor the DC cord work. Any ideas?
 

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Andy Newbury
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Hi there, right my question:- I have a canon MV530I - and I have just recently got a new home computer.... I can remember chucking the other one with the hardware that came with it out! I thought there may be another way to connect up and get my videos across and was hoping a guru like yourself could help? I have plugged the USB in but the computer does not reconise it even when turned on!
Is there another way? Many thanks in advance!

 

Andy Newbury
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Hi there, right my question:- I have a canon MV530I - and I have just recently got a new home computer.... I can remember chucking the other one with the hardware that came with it out! I thought there may be another way to connect up and get my videos across and was hoping a guru like yourself could help? I have plugged the USB in but the computer does not reconise it even when turned on!
Is there another way? Many thanks in advance!

 

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I have purchased a Panasonic NVGS15 and made some miniDV cassettes too, I want to put it in to CD, what are the tools / accessories either software or hardware required to copy the miniDV tape content to PC then to VCD or DVD. Please experts help me out by listing and some steps to do successfully.
Thanks,
Krish.R
 

Bronze Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 81
Registered: Mar-05
All recent posters: please see Awesome A's comment of March 24th.

Awesome A: thanks for the kind comments. I'll keep it up as long as I can.....

Cheers.
 

Awesome A
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your welcome.. I just couldn't tke them all at ounce and I just lost time in the day.



Visit GROMIT! Very good ::Bronze MEMBER::
 

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Would you be able to tell my how I can transfer still photos to a VHS tape? I have a scanner and can get my photos to my computer. I was hoping that I could then burn them to CD and put that CD in my DVD player to copy then to VHS. Well, once I put the CD with pictures on it in the DVD player, it says incompatible. Any ideas on how to easily transition photos to a VHS myself? THANKS!
 

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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 96
Registered: Mar-05
Diane, I suppose you are aware that the best quality you can achieve with VHS will be much, much worse than the quality you can get from your digital camera (due to the very low number of lines of resolution in VHS).

Many new DVD players can play CD slideshows. CD slideshows follow the Video CD 2.0 standard, which is supported by the majority of players available today (meaning you could record to VHS), although my own ones are too old or too cheap to have that facility! What is the make and model number of your DVD player? Of course, you will need some software to create the slideshow in a Video CD 2.0 format. Ulead make a package that you can try out: http://www.ulead.co.uk/dps/runme.htm.

If your DVD player does not suppor Video CD 2.0, then an alternative path is to burn a DVD using a software package that allows the inclusion of still photos.

Cheers.
 

sgalbraith
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Thank you for your willingness to help out. I haven't edited a videotape since doing reel-to-reel editing in 1976. I need help.

I have a SONY DCR TRV-25 videocam. I got it a couple of years ago and have never tryed editing my tapes, but I would like to do so. I write a 10 to 20- minute long play for our local Morris dancers every May Day and have a good videotape of it this year. I'd like to make CDs or DVDs for the troupe.

I am not very well organized, so I can't find the original CD of software for the camera, although I did find the USB cable. I went to the SONY site, downloaded and installed the USB driver they say is correct for my camera, and restarted my computer (Windows XP Home edition). So far the computer can't see the camera, as best I can tell.

When I plug in the cable and turn on the videocam set to VCR, the VCR doesn't show up in Windows Explorer. As best I can tell, the computer can't see the camera. When I look in Device Manager I don't see the driver name that is indicated in the SONY manual, but I think the downloaded driver is a newer version, so I don't know what it should look like.

Then I thought maybe I need to be running editing software in order to see the camera. Of course I can't find the Pixela software CD that came with the camera, but the online reviews I see don't make Pixela sound too good, so I downloaded a trial copy of Cyberlink PowerProducer 3. That seems to have installed allright, but when I start it up and tell it to import from a DV camera it still can't see the camera.

What would you try next if you were I?

Do you recommend any particular books for people like me to learn about video editing?

Thank you

Susan G.
 

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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 101
Registered: Mar-05
Susan,

I can't think of a better use for DV editing and DVD production than making movies for Morris Dancers to watch - hope they can stay sober until the end to fully appreciate your efforts! By the way, I am intrigued to hear about you editing reel-to-reel in 1976!

To start this project, you will probably need to buy one or two things (all specific products are just suggestions - each person has their own preferences):

1) A firewire card to connect your camcorder to your PC. Don't try to use USB unless there is absolutely no alternative. Firewire cards are very cheap (approx $20) and normally come bundled with a cable and video editing software. The editing software is also used for transferring the video to your PC.

2) A DVD burner. The more expensive models will normally come equipped with quite decent software for making DVDs. By "making DVDs" I mean the way you set up menus, file structures etc. This process is also know as "authoring".

3) Some software. For software, I am quite a fan of Ulead these days. It's easy to use and actually comes bundled with some DVD burners, such as Pioneer. You need Ulead VideoStudio for capture/editing and Ulead MovieFactory for producing DVDs. VideoStudio is also provided f.o.c. with many types of firewire card. Another solution for software is to use Windows Moviemaker (free with XP) instead of Videostudio and buy a copy of Moviefactory on-line. I bought MovieFactory and got a free copy of VideoStudio on the cover of a PC mag.

Just FYI, the basic steps of making home DVDs are:

1) connect the camera using firewire (you only need to buy a card if your PC is not already equipped with firewire ports) and capture the raw footage
2) edit the raw footage into useable video clips
3) drag and drop the clips into a DVD authoring package and burn the DVD

You can check out this guide for assistance on using Ulead VideoStudio to transfer video from your camcorder to your PC: http://www.jonesgroup.net/media/videostudiodvcaptureone.htm

A lot of the information in the above guide is superfluous though - if you just read the first and last pages you probably have enough to get you started.

I don't have a "how to" reference for MovieFactory but it is quite intuitive to use.

I'm sure you are going to have lots of fun. Let me know if you need further help.

Cheers.
 

Jennifer T.
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Gromit,

Great of you to offer advice to the "masses" such as myself. I've perused several threads and there is an issue I haven't seen addressed yet in terms of copying camcorder video (in my case, a Hitachi VM-E530A with about 20 8mm tapes) to DVD.

What are the minimum specs for the PC involved? I live in Costa Rica and will be traveling to the U.S. soon. I want to purchase what I will need, but I'm concerned about getting back home and finding it all useless because my desktop is not state of the art. (In fact I got it free from the bottom of my bro-in-law's closet...)

It's a Compaq Presario, Win 98, Pentium II, 96 MB RAM, 7 GB hard drive.

Should I even try? And if not, what is a reasonable price when I shop around for someone to do it for me?

Thanks so much,
Jennifer
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 102
Registered: Mar-05
Jennifer,

You don't specify your precise processor speed, but I suspect it will be in 300-400 MHz range. In my view, your processor and hard disk are very underspecced for this job. To capture analogue video using a video capture card such as Leadtek, I would recommend at least Pentium III and 20G hard disk - and preferably over 1G processor and 40G HDD. Interesting, though, Leadtek themselves reckon their product will work in a 300 Mhz machine (frankly, I doubt it for video capture): http://www.leadtek.com/multimedia/winfast_vc100xp_2.html

In terms of a reasonable price to get someone to do it for you, I have yet to find anybody who would do it for what I would call "reasonable" cost!

Hope that helps.
 

Jennifer T.
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Gromit,

Very helpful, thanks...I was beginning to suspect as much.

Having just re-counted my tapes and discovered there are more like 50 of them, I think I'll turn my sights to a burner w/ hard drive. Certainly can't cost any more than getting them done, and that way I can make extra copies of each (home movies of the family's only grandchildren -nothing professional but priceless nonetheless!)

A DVD burner does accept analog input, right? My camcorder is seven years old and has never heard of digital.

The two burners I've seen specifically mentioned in another thread are the Panasonic DMR-E80H, which has mixed reviews on Amazon (only place I've checked so far) and the JVC DR-M10S, which Amazon users warned direly against due to the dreaded "Loading error." Any others brands/models I should look into?

Again, thanks so much!
Jennifer
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 107
Registered: Mar-05
Jennifer,

Thanks for the nice comments.

I'm not much of an expert on DVD recorders but so long as you get one that supports analogue input, you should be OK.

If you have a DVD reader in your computer which does not support all formats (-R, +R etc) it is definitely worth checking that the DVD recorder you buy can support the same format as your computer.

Cheers.
 

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Username: Spikeem

Post Number: 1
Registered: May-05
Hello,
I have some old 8mm video tapes from my Sony Handicam that do not seem to play. I bought another camera off e-bay thinking it would be able to play them. It had the same symptoms. The strange thing is, when I hit Fast Forward while playing the tapes, I can see the video. What do you think the problem may be?
 

Andrea 2528
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Why does my DV look so bad on my computer monitor? I am using Windows Movie mker to edit some camcorder footage and it looks terrible! Do I need a better monitor?
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 126
Registered: Mar-05
Andrea,

If your computer is not fast enough, you may see jerkiness on DV playback. Furthermore, you may see other artifacts that will not be visible when the file is converted to to a DVD.

If you get good quality:

a) when connecting your DV camera to your PC,
b) when playing back a home DVD made from your video footage,

then there is nothing wrong with either your camera or your capture process. A new monitor is unlikely to improve PC playback - you probably need to go deeper into the system than that.

Hope that helps.
 

What to buy?
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Hi there,

Sorry for cross-posting, but I need help urgently.

I have a Toshiba P4 laptop with 1.84ghz Ram. I am urgently in need of transfering over 30 DVs to DVD and I am considering buying either a external DVD writer or a DVD standalone recorder (much like a VHS player).

Can someone please advice me as to the difference in time (speed) and quality of the transfer between the 2 options.

How much time would I need to take to transfer an hour of DV tape to DVD without editing if I were to use an external DVD writer considering the speed of the laptop I have.

And how much faster would it be if I were to buy a DVD standalone recorder instead?

Also, what's the difference in quality?


Will appreciate any advice. Thanx!!!
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 134
Registered: Mar-05
You have my answer on the other page where you posted.

Cheers.
 

Unregistered guest
Gromit -

Thank you for your detailed advice. I'm sure this will all work out eventually, but right now I am FRUSTRATED.

I'm the Morris dancer who wrote to you about a week ago.

I have purchased the Firewire card and cable and the Ulead software you recommended - Videostudio 5.0 came with my Firewire PCMIA card and I bought MovieFactory 4.0 from Amazon.com.

So I thought I had everything I needed. However....

After installing the software, and hooking up my Sony DCR TRV-25 videocam to the computer, I opened a new project in VideoStudio. When I go to the capture menu, I receive an error message that "there are no capture drivers installed in this system." I phoned the Ulead tech support guy, who told me to try running Windows Movie Maker. Movie Maker couldn't see the camera either. I have tried re-installing the VideoStudio software several times. Its "install drivers" display lists Quicktime, Realplayer, Adobe Acrobat, and Media Player, Windows Media, and Indeo. They've all been installed now, several times over, so I assume THAT's not the problem.

What do I do next?
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 135
Registered: Mar-05
Susan,

Are you sure that the message doesn't actually say "Either no video capture driver is installed in the system, or no device is connected"? There is an important difference - the way you have written it suggests an installation problem, whereas the "or no device is connected" suggests a connection problem which is very common.

Assuming you really have a connection problem, check my May 11th "cookbook" posting on this page:
https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?8691/4356

Let me know how it goes, and if you are still frustrated, just let it all out at the next stick dance!

Cheers.
 

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Hi all,

I have seen this question come up, but haven't seen the answer.

I have just bought a used HP Pavilion notebook (zd7010ca) with 4-pin firewire connector.

I have a Sony TRV350 with 4-pin DV connection.

I purchased a 4-pin to 4-pin cable and when I plug it into the notebook and camcorder, I see "DV IN" on the camcorder, but cannot see any connection at the notebook end. I've tried WinDVD Creator, MGI Videowave 5, and MovieMaker (I'm on XP Home, 5.1.2600 SP1; P4 2.6, 40gig) - none sees the camcorder - no capture source for video.

I have a desktop running 98SE and with a 3-port Firewire card (6-pin), the camera is recognized there...

Is it a problem with XP? I'm thinking of putting a partition on the notebook and installing Win98SE and trying that. Will that work?

Or, how can the HP see the DV in XP

Thanks for looking at this.


Lyle
ProInstall@SoftHome.net

 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 157
Registered: Mar-05
Lyle,

I believe this message "DV IN" you are seeing is a bit of a red herring. I think it is just indicating the presence of an electrical connection. If so, you are dealing with a normal "connection not working" problem and so I'll give my standard cookbook of possible solutions - mostly my own work but one or two ideas borrowed from other contributors:

1) Disconnect USB and just use the firewire cable to connect your camera to your PC. Most cameras use only firewire for video and USB for stills. Having the USB connection present might possibly cause a problem
2) If by any chance you have TWO types of firewire interface in your PC (one built-in, one PCI/PCMCIA card), physically remove the external card, and try connecting to the in-built port. If still no good, check in Device Manager that the internal device is OK. If you were using a PCI/PCMCIA card because of problems with an in-built card, make sure the in-built device is really disabled.
3) Play around a bit to make sure there is no "sequence" issue affecting you. By this I mean experimenting with connecting and turning the camera on before, or during the capture programme running
4) Look in Device Manager to check if both your 1394 controller and camcorder are present and correct. The 1394 controller should show up the whole time. The camcorder should show up when you connect it and turn it on, then disappear when you turn it off.
5) If your camera has a socket for a memory card, fit one. One JVC owner I corresponded with said this fixed his problem (and was advice from JVC, by the way)
6) Disconnect all other peripherals (especially USB) in case they are confusing your PC. Just a hunch.
7) Re-instal your capture software.
8) Re-download and re-install your capture software
9) Try a different capture software, e.g. Moviemaker from Microsoft if you use XP, Ulead VideoStudio or Roxio Videowave
10) Think whether have you recently installed any new applications, or upgraded any applications? RealPlayer is one application I have found to conflict with Windows XP wizards
11) Think about whether you have installed any hardware that might be causing a conflict. Not a very common problem these days but still a possibility. Check via Device Manager.
12) Try connecting your camera to a friend's PC and vice versa to work out, through a process of elimination, where the problem lies. Remember that capture will only work if the camera, cable, firewire card and PC are all OK.
13) If you are completely stuck, then this interesting - and potentially dangerous - discussion about XP SP2 might be of interest to you. DO NOT try this unless you are confident that you can back up important data and/or Ghost your OS before starting. Exercise extreme care if you follow this route - and PLEASE do let me know if it works.

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/bbs/t106716.html

Hope that somewhere in this list I hit the nail on the head. Please let me know what eventually fixes it so I can keep enhancing this knowledge base for the benefit of other users.

Cheers.
 

New member
Username: Youngin

Post Number: 3
Registered: May-05
Is it possible for me to record VHS tapes (old home videos)from my VCR to my DV cam so I am able to transfer that video to a VCD/DVD through means of a computer.

Please help if you can

Thanks
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 162
Registered: Mar-05
David,

It depends on your video camera. Most camcorders sold these days do have "video in", often in the same socket as "video out", rather confusingly. This allows you to use your camcorder as a simple (and perhaps unwieldy) digital video recorder. Your User Guide should give details if it is indeed possible.

Once you have done that, I think you know the rest.

Cheers.
 

New member
Username: Susan_g

Post Number: 1
Registered: May-05
Gromit -

It's the Morris dancer again.

This is a VERY frustrating processs. "One step forward, two steps back." I upgraded to Ulead Videofactory 9 - I find the interface much less opaque than Videofactory 5. I bought Ulead MovieFactory 4. I bought a Firewire card and cable.

I am writing you with an update and three more questions.

History: I managed to download an .avi file of my May Day mumming play from my SONY videocam, combine it with an .mpeg shot from a different camera angle, and make a nice little movie. It's ~21 minutes long and about 4.3 gigs. It took about 1 1/2 hours to convert back into an .avi file, and now Windows Media Encoder is taking at least that long to create a .wmm file, in case that proves necessary.

Why would I need both formats? Because I can't get the movie off the computer.

My computer did not come with a DVD burner. It can play DVDs, but can't burn them.

My computer can't see my tabletop DVD burner (or vice versa) when they are linked with the Firewire cable, so I guess that I can't send a signal direct to the DVD burner.

I also tried using the project playback function of Ulead VideoStudio 9 to send the movie back to my DV camera through the Firewire cable. (Then I could feed from the camera to the DVD burner.) That doesn't work either - the program starts the camera remotely and stops it at the right time, but when I play back the tape I have 21 minutes of a blue screen with no sound.

If I try project playback without trying to record, the image is only 640 x 480, which seems awfully small. But that is less important than figuring out how to get the movie back onto a DV tape or a DVD.

HELP!

I also tried using Windows MovieMaker to make a movie. Again, MovieMaker successfully controlled the camera but the result was 21 min. of blue screen with no sound.

This is the same Firewire cable I used to capture the video from the DV camera to the computer (which worked smoothly after I discovered that one of the three Firewire jacks didn't work.

So here are the questions du jour:
1) How the heck do I get my movie off my computer and onto a DV tape (and thence onto the tabletop DV burner)?

2) I am thinking about getting a DVD burner for my computer so I can feed my movie files onto it directly. However, Ulead's manual for VideoStudio indicates that its output is in DVD-R format, whereas my tabletop DVD burner is a DVD+R. Did I buy the wrong software? The wrong tabletop DVD burner? What do I do now? The cute little video Ulead tutorials do not make a distinction between DVD+ and DVD-; I didn't learn that the software creates only DVD- compatible files until after I had purchased it and downloaded the manual (.pdf). This must be Murphy's law of software!

3)If/when I do buy a DVD burner, should I get a USB 2.0 or Firewire? I know Firewire is supposed to be faster, but my USB 2.0 is via a PCMIA card (my computer predates USB 2.0), so I don't know which is better for my circumstances.

As before, I welcome your suggestions.

Susan Galbraith
Squire, Bassett Street Hounds
 

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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 166
Registered: Mar-05
Susan,

a) In my experience, getting DV back onto a camcorder is a slightly hairy activity. I have done it, but not with anything above about 10 minutes, and only the newer of my DV cams managed success. In principle it should work though. Consult your camera user guide to make sure you are doing it right. On my Canon, for example, you have to set the camera to PLAYBACK, for example, which is far from intuitive. Then you just start playing the source file on the computer (no need to bother with Ulead) and then press a button on the camera to start it recording.

b) If by "tabletop" DVD burner, you mean a DVD recorder that you normally connect to your TV (like a VHS player only 100 times better), then I have, as yet, no experience in trying to network between this type of device and a PC. My initial target device to connect to a DVD recorder would be a camcorder for obvious reasons. Again, your user guide might give you a hint about whether it can be done.

c) I do not believe that if you purchase a DVD burner, your software will not be able to output in the correct standard. That will be controlled by the burning software which is supplied with your burner - and clearly it would make no sense to supply a burner with incompatible software. You can also just pick up a copy of Nero if you run into problems. Moviefactory 4 - which you will use to create DVDs - should be transparent regarding DVD format. Just place a blank DVD of a type supported by the burner into the tray, and it will be burnt correctly. I'll be amazed if not.

d) I do not have any experience of using external DVD burners as mine is built in to my desktop PC. So long as your PC is reasonably new, I expect that either firewire or USB should work. Take advice from your PC store. In principle I like firewire as most people have great success transferring video over firewire, and no luck at all with USB. But burning DVDs may be a different proposition.

Let me know how this unfolds - and don't be nervous about asking for more help/advice!

Cheers.
 

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Username: Susan_g

Post Number: 2
Registered: May-05
The more things change.....

I spent the day in Computer Hell again.

Yesterday I bought an LG Super-Multi DVD writer, billed as being compatible with pretty much every format of DVD. I wrote two movies to Imation brand DVD+R with no problem.

Today I thought I would see how it worked with a Sony brand DVD-R. I thought I would test it out with a short (20 second) video clip.

The drive started running and wouldn't stop.

I tried exiting from the software. The drive wouldn't stop.

I tried "safely remove hardware" to unhook it from the Firewire port. I couldn't "safely remove hardware" because the drive wouldn't stop.

Finally I powered down my computer (the drive still wouldn't stop), then manually turned off the drive, unplugged the drive, and the firewire card, pulled the battery out of my laptop, unplugged it, and held down the power button for 10 seconds.... and when I started up my computer again I got an "unmountable boot volume" message.

Four hours of torment later, after booting from my XP installation disk and running an XP recovery program, I am back in functioning order.

The people who make the drive suggest the following possible explanations for my problem:
1) maybe my CPU is too slow to support their drive
2) they bundle PowerProducer with their drive, so why did I use Ulead?
3) maybe there's something wrong with the PCMIA Firewire driver.
4) maybe there's something wrong with the SONY DVD-R I was trying to write to.

They will, if I insist, send me a replacement drive, but they think it more likely that the problem is one of those listed above rather than any defect in the drive.

Do you have any opinion on this?

Squire Susan
Bassett St Hounds (howling with frustration)

 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 174
Registered: Mar-05
Susan,

You are certainly being dogged by bad luck. It is for reasons such as your story above that I regularly back up my PC using Ghost. Then if something goes horribly wrong, it only takes 30 seconds of human effort to return to a known starting point. All my documents are on a separate disk, so re-ghosting the C drive is an almost seamless activity. However, if you only have one drive, you practically speaking need a DVD burner to perform the Ghost backup, ha ha ha.

For your reference, I also have an LG super-multi standard DVD burner (GSA 4081B) built into my desk top. That device is around a year old, my PC is only 667 MHz and I have never encountered any problem such as you face. Of course, in my case, I do not have the complication of running the burner over an external interface. Plus I have only ever used "Laser" DVDs (both + and -) as they are pretty much the cheapest. Exceptions to this are one TDK rewritable (OK) and one Maxell RAM (OK).

You didn't state this explicitly, but it seems clear that you purchased a firewire-connected DVD burner.

I have the following comments about the supplier's theories as to why this is happening:

1) If your CPU is too slow to support their burner, how come it worked fine with the Imation disks?

2) Are they (LG) really willing to take a market position that their burner only works with their own supplied software? They would be out of business overnight.

3) If the firewire driver isn't working, how come you can upload video AND burn DVD+R disks?

4) That is possible.

If you wish to show the supplier goodwill (not to mention some dogged determination), you could repeat whatever parts of the original exeriment you feel up to. Of course, don't use the same Sony disk, but either another Sony DVD-R (if you are feeling bold) or another type of DVD-R (if you are less bold and don't mind the prospect of an uncertain "Sony DVD-R disks b****r my drive" neurosis hanging over you forever).

Generally speaking, I think that consumers have a duty to replicate a problem before returning equipment as faulty, unless the consequential damage of a failure is too severe. You have to make your own judgment on that point.

Good luck and let me know what happens next!

Cheers
PS: just struck me - it is rather cute that "Gromit" is helping the Bassett St Hounds....
 

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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 176
Registered: Mar-05
Susan,

Something else occurred to me.

It is quite possible that your burner has the potential to run faster than your PC can handle, meaning that explanation (1) might be possible after all. Here's why.

When you burnt the Imation disks, the speed that the burner was running at may have been limited by the media itself to (say) 2x. If the Sony disks were (e.g.) 8x compatible, your burner may have tried to run much faster, giving your PC a problem. Of course, the PC should recover from this without any of the problems you subsequently encountered. I would just expect the burning software to gracefully exit with an error message "burn failed".

I have also seen written on the packaging of some DVD media a warning that if they are burnt in a drive that doesn't support that high a speed, it can damage the drive. That does seem a bit unreasonable. But I have noticed that the maximum speed at which my LG burner can burn DROPS when I use blank DVDs that are rated above my drivers claimed spec. Isn't that odd?

I think that, at least, you should take a look at the packaging of the Imation disks and the Sony disk to check their claimed supported speed. If the Sony one was much faster, it might be a clue.

Cheers.
 

arian11
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i have a sony DV camera and wanna put the video on my computer. none of my computers have firewire. i have a usb cable but i dont know wat program to use to capture it. windows movie maker says it doesn't capture from tapes which is wat i have. i need help fast
 

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Username: Janderson12

Post Number: 2
Registered: May-05
I am expierencing problems with my JVC gr-d33us when trying to capture my video on to the ImageMixer, Windows movie maker, or any other program I use. They all work fine until I am finished captureing then it pops up with, Not enough time or check to see if the file is corrupt. I am using firewire. I have a presario sr133onx that came with the 1394 bus already installed but how do I figure out if i need a firewire card or is it just operators error?
 

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I have a few questions regarding MiniDV versus DVD camcorder. From my understanding, MiniDV uses M-JPEG format and DVD uses MPEG-2 format, which has compression, resulting in poor video quality. My first questions is: if I eventually transfer and burn the data from MiniDV tape to DVD-R disc, is the data on DVD-R MPEG-2 format anyway? If so, the final video quality is the same. The only advantage of using MiniDV as an intermediate step is for editting. Is it right?

Second, I have a panasonic DVD recoder with HDD. When I copy movies recordered on hard disk drive to DVD-R with high quality format (XP mode), I can record about an hour. So my question is why the DVD-R used in camcorder can only record less than 30 mins of high quality video? Is the DVD-R in DVD camcorder different than the regular 4.7GB DVD-R disc? If I use DVD-R in a DVD camcorder directly, can I still edit the video before finalizing the disc? Or I have to use DVD-RAM/DVD-RW in order to edit?

Thanks much for your help.

Brian
 

Asheq2005
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I have recorded some video through my Sony Handycam (model-TRV228). I can see those images in TV without any problem. I don't know how I should transfer video from my cam to pc as I don't see any USB port in my cam. All I can see is an S-Video port and an A/V out port.

Can anybody help me to advise how I would be able to transfer video from my cam to pc so that I can burn cd's? What would be the best (and economic) way to transfer vedio from cam to pc without USB?

A BIG THANKS in advance. It would be a great help for me since I'm not getting right guidance from any of my friends or colleagues. Brgds.
 

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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 181
Registered: Mar-05
Brian,

I'll try to answer all your questions!

1) Mini DV uses an encoding method called DV-25 (signifying the inherent 25 Mbit/s bandwidth required to transfer it without loss). DV-25 has compression within frames (intra-frame compression) but no compression between frames (inter-frame compression). This was done to make editing easier. You can imaging how hard it is for software to cut individual frames if the information available for that frame is only relative! However, modern editing programmes can also edit video with inter-frame compression.

2) DVD does indeed use MPEG-2, which has not only compression within a frame, but also compression between frames. The bit rate is much lower. However, MPEG-2, DVD standard, can produce results virtually indistinguishable from the original DV. I am very fussy about video quality but am generally very happy with home DVDs I have made. It does depend to some extent on the encoder you use. I use Ulead MoveiFactory to make DVDs, which includes the DV to MPEG conversion.

3) Once you have transferred the DV into your PC as an .avi file, you can of course burn a DVD with this file. It will be an exact copy. Or you can make a DVD in which case the video will be MPEG-2 (hidden inside something called a .vob file, by the way)

4) Camcorder DVDs are (I believe) smaller and have lower capacity than a standard DVD. Furthermore, I believe that camcorders using this system simply don't record to their DVDs in DV format. It would eat up the disk capacity too quickly. Instead, they use MPEG-2. There are various quality settings, which affect the duration you can record on a single disk.

5) If your DVD drive in your computer can read the disk from your camcorder, you should be able to carry out editing so long as your editing programme can handle MPEG-2 files.

6) There are programmes out there that let you convert almost anything to almost anything, so (provided you are patient while these programmes do their stuff) you can normally get out of gaol.

Does that help?

Cheers
 

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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 182
Registered: Mar-05
Asheq2005,

Does your camcorder User Guide mention firewire (or, IEEE1394, or i-link) as an available interface? If yes, I'll recommend that as the preferred method. you may need to buy a card for your PC but they are not expensive.

Cheers.
 

Brian rcg
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That helps a lot. Thanks Gromit.

Brian
 

Asheq2005
Unregistered guest
A Billion thanks Gromit.
Unfortunately it does not mention anything about firewire (or, IEEE1394, or i-link). I found a direction in another thread that I can connect my hadycam av o/p with a tv card and then can capture video with a software called 'Inter WinDVR 3'. Do you think it will work? If positive, could you pls guide me where can I get that software? Or is there any other TV tuner that should work?

Thanks again.
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 187
Registered: Mar-05
Asheq,

You will probably find low-end Leadtek cards will meet your rquirement, and I suspect (never tried myself) that Moviemaker in Windows XP can be used as video capture software via the Leadtek card.

Hope that helps.
 

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- I bought ZR 90 miniDV camcorder one year back.
- I got my new laptop few days back. Its Dell Inspiron 6000 with Win XP Prof operating system.
- I installed Ulead 5.0 software to download the movie.
- But when I connect camcorder and laptop with firewire cable it gives me error like:
"There are no capture drivers installed in this system"
- I downloaded TWAIN driver from canon site. but this driver is not compatible with Windows XP.
- Now what is the solution for this? How can I download my miniDV movies?
- Please advice me ASAP. i hv many miniDVs to download ;-)
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 219
Registered: Mar-05
Sachin,

This is my complete "connection problems" debugging cookbook, mostly my own work but thanks to Chico and Berny who also contributed:

1) Disconnect USB and just use the firewire cable to connect your camera to your PC. Most cameras use only firewire for video and USB for stills. Having the USB connection present might possibly cause a problem
2) If by any chance you have TWO types of firewire interface in your PC (one built-in, one PCI/PCMCIA card), physically remove the external card, and try connecting to the in-built port. If still no good, check in Device Manager that the internal device is OK. If you were using a PCI/PCMCIA card because of problems with an in-built card, make sure the in-built device is really disabled.
3) If you are using a laptop with built-in firewire, try to get your hands on a PCMCIA firewire card and use that instead as an experiment. This fixed the problem for one user with a Sony laptop. Make sure you disable the in-built device when doing this.
4) Play around a bit to make sure there is no "sequence" issue affecting you. By this I mean experimenting with connecting and turning the camera on before, or during the capture programme running
5) Look in Device Manager to check if both your 1394 controller and camcorder are present and correct. The 1394 controller should show up the whole time. The camcorder should show up when you connect it and turn it on, then disappear when you turn it off.
6) If you have any doubts about your firewire card, debug as follows: Turn off your camcorder and unplug it from the computer. Remove/uninstall the firewire on your device manager. Restart the computer, wait until windows re-installs the firewire. Re-start again, then wait until the pc is booted up completely. With your camcorder still switched off, plug it in using firewire, then power it on.
7) If your camera has a socket for a memory card, fit one. One JVC owner I corresponded with said this fixed his problem (and was advice from JVC, by the way)
8) Disconnect all other peripherals (especially USB) in case they are confusing your PC. Just a hunch.
9) Re-instal your capture software.
10) Re-download and re-install your capture software
11) Try a different capture software, e.g. Moviemaker from Microsoft if you use XP, Ulead VideoStudio or Roxio Videowave (my favourite)
12) Think whether have you recently installed any new applications, or upgraded any applications? RealPlayer is one application I have found to conflict with Windows XP wizards
13) Think about whether you have installed any hardware that might be causing a conflict. Not a very common problem these days but still a possibility. Check via Device Manager.
14) Try connecting your camera to a friend's PC and vice versa to work out, through a process of elimination, where the problem lies. Remember that capture will only work if the camera, cable, firewire card and PC are all OK.
15) If you are completely stuck, then this interesting - and potentially dangerous - discussion about XP SP2 might be of interest to you. DO NOT try this unless you are confident that you can back up important data and/or Ghost your OS before starting. Exercise extreme care if you follow this route - and PLEASE do let me know if it works.

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/bbs/t106716.html

Hope that somewhere in this list I hit the nail on the head. Please let me know what eventually fixes it so I can keep enhancing this knowledge base for the benefit of other users.

Cheers.
 

JimmyQR
Unregistered guest
Please a quick question from a newbie: I have several analog cameras, it works very well, but transferring video from the camera is in realtime, (I mean, for an hour of video in the camera I must wait 1 hour until the video is transferred to the PC), now I see digital cameras with USB and firewire connections... my question is the next: in digital cameras, the video transfer is also in realtime? or it is copied to the PC faster because of the video is an archive on the camera (also, I mean, if 1 hour of video on the digital camera is transferred faster to the PC) that's the only thing I'm interested on a digital camera.
By the way the cameras I'm interested are DV ones (Sony MiniDV DCR-HC32 or DCR-TRV380) also, quick difference between Digital8 and MiniDV.
Thanks in advance
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 303
Registered: Mar-05
JimmyQR,

DV also transfers in real-time. I don't know about USB, but generally speaking, USB does not give satisfactory results quality-wise.

Post again to get comments from other contirbutors if you need.

Cheers.
 

Unregistered guest
Pls someone help, I have a Panasonic NV-GS15 Cam Coder, I've been using it to transfer videos to my Computer through Firewire, but suddenly I connect and it doesn't respond. I've checked all the necessary connections yet the computer still doesn't recongnize it, but if I plug USB cable to upload still pictures, it recognizes it. WHAT COULD BE THE PROBLEMS PLS
 

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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 321
Registered: Mar-05
Eteka,

Did you recently install any new software? If so, try temporarily removing it.

Did you recently install any new hardware that might possibly clash? If so, try removing it.

Did you recently update your PC to XP SP2? If so, take a look at this patch from Microsoft: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=CA0F2007-18B5-4112-8BD6 -8BF4BD3130B9&displaylang=en

Have you always turned off your camcorder before connecting it to the PC? (JVC would have you believe that BOTH PC and camcorder should be off). If not, you may have damaged the firewire port on your camcorder. Try connecting it to a friend's PC for comparison.

Hope that helps.
 

Rob A
Unregistered guest
This is going to sound like a stupid question. But here it goes.

I have a dvd camcoder that uses only USB to transfer the video (no firewire). The video transfers without any problems and plays back fine.

I've been trying a demo version of Adobe Premier elements and also Sony Vegas video studio4 but when I import the video file to edit using either program, the original audio from the camcorder is un-heard. Whether its muted or simply missing I am not sure. But I have a feeling its something really simple that I am missing.

Any hints?
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 334
Registered: Mar-05
Rob A,

Can you please let me know what model of camcorder you have?

In your capture programme, make sure the capture settings for "audio" show your camera (and not, for example, your soundcard, or blank).

USB does transfer video and audio at the same time when it is working. But firewire is normally much better.

Let me know what happens...

Cheers.
 

Rob A
Unregistered guest
Hi,

Its a Sony DVD103. Unfortunately it has no Firewire, just USB.

I think I may have figured it out. But its still strange:

I have to use the Sony Picture Package to get the video from the camcorder to PC thru USB. But I guess the audio is in AC3 and Adobe Premiere and Sony Vegas require MPEG audio to be recognised.

So I noticed there is an audio conversion button in Sony Picture Package. It adds an extra step to my work flow but when I do that, now the audio is there in the timeline of both Premiere and Vegas.

The strange part is that for a while when I first got the camera, and I know I didn't do any audio conversion, the clips showed up with the audio without any problems.

Now, I just wish there was a way in my camera to select MPEG audio instead of AC3 to be captured.

Regards.
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 335
Registered: Mar-05
Rob A,

That is indeed strange. I looked at a few websites for the product and found no mention of AC3 (and, frankly, would be surprised if it was included as AC3 encoding is really a commercial system). I did see that the camcorder optionally supports 5.1 surround sound (see http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Sony-DCR-DVD103-First-Impressions-Review.ht m)

Could that be mucking things up maybe? Can you find a setting for "Stereo" rather than "5.1"?

Another thing, probably unrelated: have you tried reading the mini DVDs in your PC rather than using USB to transfer the video?

Let me know how this turns out.

Cheers
 

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Username: Maza

LiverpoolEngland

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-05
Hi There
Well just like most people that write in I have a problem I have a SAMSUNG VP-L500 ANALOUGE CAMCORDER yes its quite old now because technology moves so fast. I also have lots of 8mm tapes that go back years and all I want to be able to do is transfer what's on the tapes
To my computer and then edit them and put them on to DVD sounds simple, but believe me it's not from were I am. Can anybody out there PLEASE HELP me I even bought a new camera hoping to do it that way but nope the new camera does not recognize the footage on the old tapes. PLEASE PLEASE can somebody HELP ME you can email me at maza50@ntlworld.com Many Thanks
 

Rob A
Unregistered guest
Hi again,

It certainly looks like it is, to my surprise too, AC3 code on the audio from the camcorder. And the Sony Picture Package mentions specifically transferring audio from AC3 to MPEG audio, which is the step required in my case to edit with 3rd party software. I guess Adobe and Sony software don't like to work with AC3?

My camcorder supports 5.1 but only by purchasing an external mic, otherwise its just stereo.

I, and you're gonna be shocked, still just have a CD-R/RW drive in my PC. But I did play the DVD once finalised in my Sony home dvd player and it played fine.

Thanks for your help.
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 336
Registered: Mar-05
Marion,

As your camera only has analogue outputs, you will need to buy a video capture card for your PC, such as those made by Leadtek (www.leadtek.com).

Make sure your camera exceeds the minimum spec or you may lose information during capture. I would recommend at least 1GHz processor.

Once the info is on your computer, you can use standard DVD burners/authoring packages.

Post again if you need further info.

Cheers.
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 337
Registered: Mar-05
Rob,

Thanks for the update. Actually, I read the manual for your camcorder and see that an external mike is (in theory) required for 5.1, which according to my theory is making the sound look like AC3.

I am still suspicious about this point. Have you really made 100% sure that the camcorder - regardless of the presence of external mikes or not - is actually set for stereo rather than 5.1? I am thinking minor product bug here....

Cheers.
 

Rob A
Unregistered guest
Hi,

Maybe you're right. The documentation I'm afraid is a little poor.

There is no setting that can be changed for Stereo or 5.1 in the camera. You can adjust the mic level (from two presets), and only when you have the ext mic attached to the Active Interface Shoe can you select between Stereo and 4CH Mic.

Now in the Sony Picture Package when you select to convert audio format, a window appears that says, "The movie audio format will be converted from AC3 to MPEG audio and be saved as a different movie". So it retains the original footage as well as make a copy that has the audio converted so that, as it's mentioned in the Picture Package user guide, it can be used with MPEG audio format compatible applications.

Now, there are two scenarios here. Either all audio from this cam is in AC3, or its a fault that it thinks the ext mic is attached and its saving it in AC3 when it shouldn't? Either way, right now for me, I have only AC3 (it appears) audio coming from the cam.

I'd love to get the bottom of this. I might email Sony, but from past Sony hardware support experience, I can't expect much.
 

Rob A
Unregistered guest
Oh and I forgot to mention, in Nero when playing back video footage with un-converted audio from cam, it says under audio properties that its Dolby Digital 2 Channel 256 kBps audio and the audio plays fine. In Windows Media Player, the audio seems to be missing.
 

Rob A
Unregistered guest
OK, I think we have our answer. I found it on Camcorderinfo.com forum. Here's a quote from some threads there:

"Question
The software does not detect my DVD camcorder, so I am unable to capture from it. I captured the video with the software that came with the camera, but when importing the .mpg file into your software there is no audio track. What is the problem?


Answer
Our software does not support capturing directly from these devices at this time. You would need to use the software that came with the camera in order to download the video onto your computer.

The newer Sony DVD based camcorders record audio directly into the AC-3 (Dolby Digital) format. Unfortunately, our Screenblast Movie Studio and Vegas products are not compatible with that file format and therefore the audio track cannot be opened within the software. Movie Studio and Vegas can open many popular audio formats such as Wave, MP3, AIFF, Wave64, WMA, OGG, and PCA. In order to open the audio track from your DVD camcorder you would first need to convert it to one of those file formats. Sony Pictures Digital does not currently make any software that can edit or convert AC-3 files. You may want to look for information on software for that purpose at the following site: www.dvdrhelp.com."

Then:

"The folks at VEGAS told me the next Vegas software to be released will support AC3. Seems that when SONY put Ac3 on there DVD camcorders they caught ALL the 3rd party video editing software people flatfooted. No 3 rd party video sofwares titles supported it. I am still trying to get a COMPLETE list of 3rd software vendors that can handle Sony's DVD cameras AC3 audio tracks. I wish somebody will read this post and give a list of proven software titles that they KNOW will handle Sony's AC-3 sound without an error of "this software does not support the audio format. I know I will get hooted on but I have not had any problems with Imagemaker but I sure would Like to get a Studio 8 kind of editing software to use in place of Imagmixer. I just downloaded the update for Imagemixer but haven't used it. ANybody know what the update did or didn't do??????"

So I guess we have our answer. It turns out that its normal and AC3.
 

Joe Toomey
Unregistered guest
HI Gromit,
I hope you can give me some advice re capturing vhs images to my pc via a Canon mv30i (approx 4 yrs old) I have a fire wire card etc in my pc. I think from reading previous posts I need some type of converter. Any advice you can suggest would be greatfully received.

Thanks Joe
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 340
Registered: Mar-05
Joe,

According to this web page:
http://www.canon.ee/products/specification.asp?id=295

your camera is equipped with a DV connector (as one would expect), so all you need is a firewire cable and transfer software such as Roxio VideoStudio or Ulead Videowave (or the free Moviemaker in Windows XP).

No convertor should be required.

By the way, make sure at least your camcorder is switched off when you plug the firewire cable into it.

Cheers.
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 341
Registered: Mar-05
Rob,

Thank you very much indeed for the detailed update. I shall carefully store this nugget away for the next poor soul who encounters a similar problem.

I think it was quite generous of that other poster to say that "Sony caught the software companies flatfooted". From what I read, a better description would be "Sony deliberately introduced an audio encoding system not supported by other domestic editing software, without warning the industry or potential purchasers, and leaving all their customers high and dry if they wanted to touch their recordings with anything other than Sony's own rather lacklustre software"

If there are Sony-lovers out there reading this, please feel free to correct me or put a different spin on it.

By the way, if I had stumped up another $20 for the deluxe version of MoveieFactory, I would have the ability to import AC3, but that's not the point, really, is it? Unless there is a really compelling reason, new systems should be backwards compatible with the existing market.

Glad I got that off my chest.

Have fun, and by the way, here is link to enjoy while your PC is crunching the audio conversion: www.stupid.com. No Sony products on this page that I could see.

Cheers.

 

Rob A
Unregistered guest
Hey Gromit,

I hear you. Whats even more upsetting is that even Sony's own Vegas software doesn't work with AC3. I like Sony products but go figure.

Thanks for the link btw.
Cheers.
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 343
Registered: Mar-05
Rob,

You're welcome.

By the way, if you ever work out the "it used to work when I first got it" connundrum, let me know.

Cheers.
 

Rob A
Unregistered guest
Hi Gromit,

Yes I did work out that too. That was partially my own fault. When I first got the cam, I had Nero set up as my default MPEG player and as you know Nero handles AC3 fine.
It wasn't until later that I tried playing the footage on WMP 10 and I guess AC3 is a no go on that.

Its good to know there are very helpful people here on this forum. I may have to register : )

Cheers.
 

sak
Unregistered guest
hi i have a canon mv530i but i lost all my software for it, and can't upload the images to pc what should i do
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 354
Registered: Mar-05
sak,

Canon should be able to provide you with a replacement disk for a small charge.

Cheers.
 

orange soldier
Unregistered guest
hi......me And my friends want to make a biking video..and my rernts just bought a JVC mini DV camcorder....i dont no if any software came with it or5 we if we lost it but we dont have it...i dont no how to put the video onto my PC im running XP and im wondering ..do i need a firerwire or anything because it definetly didnt come wiht anyfire wire cables for the camera./..i just need some one to explain to me what i need to do to put my video onto my PC p[lease help thanks

-orange soldier
please answer ASAP
you can email me at... rob1231@hotmail.com
or lopes_soldier@hotmail.com
 

Joe Toomey
Unregistered guest
Hi Gromit

perhaps I was too brief in my explanation of my problem, or maybe I'm dumb! I want to transfer analog video from a vhs tape to my pc. Does this change the scenario?

Thanks

Joe
 

Silver Member
Username: Gromit

Post Number: 360
Registered: Mar-05
Joe,

No, your message was perfect, I just didn't read it carefully enough.

If your camcorder has an "AV in" facility (my Canon, 18 months old, does) then it is probably possible. You need an analogue cable (mini jack one end, 3 phonos the other) to connect your VHS player to your camcorder, then a normal firewire arrangement to connect your camcorder to your PC.

In my Canon User Guide, this facility is described under a heading named "Converting Analog Signals into Digital Signals (Analog - Digital Converter)".

If you don't have this facility in your Canon, a Leadtek TV/capture card in your PC will do the trick.

Hope that helps.
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