Silver Member Username: Tigger_woodsI AM BACK, MATCH PLAY FEB 25TH Post Number: 965 Registered: Jun-07 | Federal imprisonment of Christians right around the corner (hate crimes bills) Christian anti Defamation Commision ^ Posted on February 24, 2009 5:16:33 PM by mainestategop When is the last time you saw $10 Million dollars being spent on special programs in schools that taught school-age children about Judeo-Christian values and why they are important in our laws today? Better yet, funded by the Government? Well, I can answer that for you. Never! But, the Government sure is interested in getting some bills passed that will do just that for certain select minority groups such as homosexualsss while putting Christians in prison. $10 Million dollars in funding will be allocated annually for the administration of hate crime prevention including special programs about this in our schools. IF...the most recent David Ray Ritcheson Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009 (H.R. 262) coupled with the David Ray Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009 (H.R. 256) are passed! So, besides the double-standard, why should you be fuming and taking action before you even finish reading this? Because these two bills that are going to be sent to President Barack Obama's desk will silence Christians from speaking against homosexualityyyy or teaching our children that it is wrong. You would quite literally be committing a Federal crime and convicted. If these bills get passed, not only will Christians be silenced -- but, the government is scheduled to swoop in with $10 Million dollars to drive a stake right into the heart of Christians by making sure your children hear and are taught everything against Judeo-Christian beliefs. The two bills that I am talking about are the David Ray Ritcheson Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009 (H.R. 262) coupled with the David Ray Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009 (H.R. 256). These two bills were just introduced by Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee and are expected to be signed by President Barack Obama who has supported this legislation at the state level in the past. These two bills CANNOT get to President Obama's desk! No way Christians! You must act now if you want to continue practicing your Christian faith and teaching it to your children. Sign the petition against Hate Crimes Legislation! The Liberal Bailout Right now, there are some states that have adopted Hate Crime Laws. And, in those states, many Christians have been convicted and imprisoned. To top it off, Hate Crime Prevention programs won't be run by the government. Instead, the government will be looking for a private non-profit organization with broad experience in Hate Crimes education, prevention, and statistics gathering to be the watchment of this bill. It is quite possible that this "$10 Million dollar giveaway" will go to liberal, anti-Christian groups like the Jewish Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL). The ADL describes itself as "the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice, and bigotryyyy." But that's not all they do. The ADL is also one of the most anti-Christian proponents in the public square today. Allied with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which has done more harm to Christian liberties in America than any other group, I shutter to think what will happen to our children, our families, our churches, and our freedom of speech at the hands of these two groups and their well-funded regime. On the state level, the ADL website brags that they have caused 45 states to enact different versions of this bill since 1990. Most recently, in 2008, Gov. Schwarzenegger of California, passed lesbiannn activist Sheila Kuhl's anti-Christian bill S.B.777. It makes it illegal to criticize homosexuality in California public schools. Hate crime bills are in complete opposition to the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment forbids special rights, privileges, or services to preferred groups, but S.B. 262 defies this by giving special Federal assistance to alleged victims of hate crimes. Hate Crime Watch Update The United Kingdom and Canada gives us plenty of evidence as to why Hate Crimes Law is a bad idea. The number of Christians imprisioned for their faith continues to grow as does the Hate Crime Case Law against Christians. Most recently in the United Kingdom, the Christian Institute issues a report on some of the hate crime cases that have developed there under similar legislation. One of the most stunning examples of how Hate Crimes Law silences Christians is of Lynette Burrows. "Lynette Burrows, an author and family-vaues campaigner, took part in a radio talk show about civil partnerships for homosexualssss. Mrs. Burrows said she did not believe that adoption by two gayyyy men would be best for a child. Subsequently, a policewoman telephoned Mrs. Burrows to speak to her about her comments," the report said. "The police officer said a 'homophobiccc incident' had been reported against her and that record of it would be kept by police." Do you think Lynette Burrows will think twice about sharing her Christian beliefs as based from God's Holy Word now that she has a criminal profile card recorded with the police? The UK law has a section recognizing that "the discussion or criticism of sexualll conduct or practices or the urging of persons to refrain from or modify such conduct or practices shall not be taken in and of itself to be threatening or intended to stir up hatred." Yet, in this case, honest criticism based on a person's faith and upon the facts becomes a "homophobiccc incident." This has a very chilling effect on free speech. It proves what CADC has been alleging all along. Hate crimes are directed against Christians so that their values and views will not be tolerated. TAKE ACTION Help protect Christian liberty in the U.S. by signing our petition in opposition to hate crimes. We must stop it in Congress. If the bill is passed, President Obama will sign it into Federal law. This petition will be sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee on 1/31/09. Click the little envelope icon at the top right of this article and you can automatically send this article to all of the friends and family that you wish. Just because you found this information, doesn't mean others have or will. We need to get this into the hands of as many people as possible! We must ban together to accomplish this task before it becomes too daunting to practice or speak about God's truths from the Bible in America. Don't let this opportunity to save our freedoms pass you by. While you're here, please consider making a monthly donation to The Christian Anti-Defamation Commission. We absolutely could not fight for your Christian freedoms the way we do without your support. It will become harder and harder to fight against Christian defamation when the opposition is so well-funded by law. Let's act now before it is too late! |
Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11125 Registered: Jul-06 | Good luck in Match Play Tiger |
Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3616 Registered: Mar-07 | I hope it passes for my children's sake. There is enough bigotry from your kind in the world today, an attempt to stem it is a worthy attempt in my book. |
Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11127 Registered: Jul-06 | Well now I read it. I hope it passes as well. I don't get why people are threatened by homosexxuals. Why is homosexuality considered wrong to so many people? What do I not get about it? |
Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3622 Registered: Mar-07 | Well if you had misinterpreted a fictional story for centuries, you might get it? |
Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11129 Registered: Jul-06 | Lol, I sense this thread is gonna get testy haha. |
Silver Member Username: Tigger_woodsI AM BACK, MATCH PLAY FEB 25TH Post Number: 968 Registered: Jun-07 | The Bible is very clear on this subject, that`s where I will leave it. I am off to match play |
Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3625 Registered: Mar-07 | My point is, after centuries of hate crimes and persecution, you're really complaining because the government is trying to stem YOUR bigotry? |
Platinum Member Username: Basshead86Steady as she goes... Post Number: 10398 Registered: Aug-05 | i dont feel like reading it. someone please have the decency to explain to me what the hell this is all about? lmao |
Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3629 Registered: Mar-07 | ^ don't be lazy |
Silver Member Username: Armykyle1Ms Us Post Number: 456 Registered: Dec-08 | this sounds like it'll be taking away from freedom of speech. People are aloud to have views and express them in a respectful way. I feel as though homoseexual stuff is being forced on us. No matter what happens if you stand out someone will say something. Draw attention to yourself bad things will happen |
Gold Member Username: PitbullguyThe Chicago area Post Number: 3734 Registered: Oct-06 | This thread is g@y. |
Silver Member Username: Tigger_woodsI AM BACK, MATCH PLAY FEB 25TH Post Number: 977 Registered: Jun-07 | Remember when liberals were wringing their hands and accusing President George W. Bush of being a dictator and a king? Of course, that was breathtakingly absurd, but what's really ironic is that these people actually want a king, provided they get to pick him. As Barack Obama feverishly presses forward with his socialist agenda, one wonders whether any act of executive overreaching might cause the compliant, nay, conspiratorial Democratic congressional majorities to pause or, better yet, to resist. I think not. Every assault Obama inflicts on the budget is met by Congress with: "Thank you, sir. May I have another?" |
Silver Member Username: Tigger_woodsI AM BACK, MATCH PLAY FEB 25TH Post Number: 979 Registered: Jun-07 | Thieves Gold Member Username: Jtown Texas Post Number: 3625 Registered: Mar-07 Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 10:27 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My point is, after centuries of hate crimes and persecution, you're really complaining because the government is trying to stem YOUR bigotry? SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT YOU HATED YOUR GRAND PARENTS AND GREAT GRANDPARENTS ETC ETC ETC, I guess they where bigggggots also. You also call God/Christ a liar, because he made it very clear in his Word that hhhhhomosexxxxxxuality was a Obamanation |
Silver Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 192 Registered: Feb-09 | Read the bill. Even a Homa can see it takes away more of our rights and should be appalled. |
Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11147 Registered: Jul-06 | "Because these two bills that are going to be sent to President Barack Obama's desk will silence Christians from speaking against homosexualityyyy or teaching our children that it is wrong." So I assume that the people who oppose this bill think that homosexuallity is a choice, am I correct in thinking this? Cause if that is true, you guys really need to take a step back and open up your eyes. |
Silver Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 197 Registered: Feb-09 | I Chose not to put d ck in my mouth |
Gold Member Username: PitbullguyThe Chicago area Post Number: 3737 Registered: Oct-06 | Using the bible's word to try and defend your own bigotry? Absolutely sickening. Johnboi, you're wasting your time arguing with this clown... |
Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3636 Registered: Mar-07 | As a matter of fact my grandparents are big0ts, my parents not as bad, but they still are. I never said I hated them, btw, don't try to put words in my mouth. Secondly, "God/Christ" didn't write the bible idiot, a bunch of white men sat around a table and wrote it. |
Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11150 Registered: Jul-06 | "I Chose not to put d ck in my mouth" Your ignorance makes me laugh. You didn't choose anything pal, you were born that way. |
Silver Member Username: DlavanteD&L Designs, Daniel USA Post Number: 185 Registered: Feb-07 | This whole thread blows me away. And I completely agree with Yanks. |
Gold Member Username: AdddisorderPalm Beach, Florida Post Number: 6442 Registered: Jan-06 | this thread is fucked up. first that bill would never pass, wow bullshit bills get drafted all the time. Tiger get your bible thumping azz out of here. |
Silver Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 300 Registered: Feb-09 | Yanks Fan Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13 Northern VA Post Number: 11150 Registered: Jul-06 Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 05:41 pm: Your ignorance makes me laugh. You didn't choose anything pal, you were born that way. --------------------------------------- Some people say that alcoholics are born that way too. You can't be an alcoholic if you never take a drink. |
Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11172 Registered: Jul-06 | Lmao sweet argument Rico.....I don't even know how to respond because of how fuccing stupid it was. Alcohol is, for all intents and purposes, an addictive drug. You get addicted to alcohol. You can't compare an alcoholic with being ghey. If you really, truly, and wholeheartedly believe that being ghey is a choice and alcoholics are born that way, then may God have mercy on your soul. |
Silver Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 302 Registered: Feb-09 | First There is a growing body of scientific evidence that alcoholism has a genetic component, but the actual gene that may cause it has yet to be identified. Studies of laboratory animals as well as human test subjects indicate that genetic factors play a major role in the development of alcoholism, but just how much a factor remains undetermined. C/P from AA.org ------------------------------------------- Second Although not supported by the research, many therapists believe that homoseuality is solely biological in nature, and therefore unchangeable. Yet despite ongoing efforts, researchers have not discovered a biological basis for same-sex attractions. In fact, many researchers hypothesize that a homoseual orientation stems from a combination of biological and environmental factors. C/P from N.A.R.T.H. |
Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 4669 Registered: Mar-06 | This petition will be sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee on 1/31/09. So what happened? Can i call you a fagggot still? or is it against the law? Did I show you my day trip pics to P-Town? |
Gold Member Username: Camaro823British Colu... Canada Post Number: 1049 Registered: Jun-05 | WOW, haven't been on this forum for awhile, but I can see the OT section is being used. |
Gold Member Username: Tigger_woodsDN MOLE, ECOUSTICS EXPERT Post Number: 1011 Registered: Jun-07 | Yanks Fan, my only point was....to be a moderator one would have to have thick enough skin to not just ban people that hold a different opinion than their`s. I do not hate the group of people that we are not allowed to mention on this forum. I have a cousin whom I love that is that way. Plymouth thanks for the kind words, but you are wrong on 2 counts. Firstly I posted that article in the OFF TOPIC section and secondly it was NOT removed and is still there. |
Gold Member Username: Tigger_woodsDN MOLE, ECOUSTICS EXPERT Post Number: 1012 Registered: Jun-07 | Mat ***** Gold Member Username: Adddisorder Palm Beach, Florida Post Number: 6442 Registered: Jan-06 Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 11:31 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- this thread is fucked up. first that bill would never pass, wow bullshit bills get drafted all the time. Tiger get your bible thumping azz out of here. I BET if I said that or something like that I would be banned. In fact if we reviewd the rules that post would be banned. If that person is allowed to say that then nobody should ever be banned IMHO. I have never suggested someone should go away. Imagine if that guy was given the power to moderate?? |
Silver Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 310 Registered: Feb-09 | One big problem is that it seems that the minority rules in the USA. Focus groups are more vocal and active because they want change. The majority is not looking for "change" so they keep their views to themselves so as not to stir things up. Being (Happy Feet) is just Wrong. |
Silver Member Username: Armykyle1Ms Us Post Number: 470 Registered: Dec-08 | LIFE IS NOTHING BUT CHOICES. WE CAN CHOOSE TO MAKE BAD ONES OR GOOD ONES. EVERYTHING IS A CHOICE. THERE'S A REASON MEN HAVE D!CK AND GIRLS HAVE A PU$$Y. THERE IS NOTHING THAT PROVES A H0M0 IS BORN DIFFERENT THAN HETERO PERSON. THERE IS AN EXCEPTION FOR hermaphroditeS. |
Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11174 Registered: Jul-06 | Rico, your ignorance astounds me dude. Kyle, there is no scientific evidence to prove you are born gayy but let me ask you this bud, if it were a choice to be gayy, I would guess that about 75%+ of all gayys would choose to be straight. Why? Because life sucks for them (no pun intended). Gayy people can't just choose to be straight one day. They may act straight and force themselves to be straight but they will always be gayy. Tiger, I wouldn't ban you. I would have no reason to ban you. If you ask anyone on the subwoofer forum, I'd guess a very high majority would say I'm an easy to get along with member. I don't hate you or anything like that, I just don't agree with your opinion at any level. |
Silver Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 318 Registered: Feb-09 | Yanks, Your ignorance astounds me. |
Silver Member Username: Armykyle1Ms Us Post Number: 474 Registered: Dec-08 | maybe they cant get over being g@y in a day but in time they can. we all have impulses but we can choose not to act on them. over time those impulses will get better. I have PTSD, with using self control, and some outside help i have gotten better. The fact that you call me g@y shows that you are not very educated on the subject. I have nothing against gays, i just pray for their salvation. I by no means think im better though. I have the impulse to want to sleep with every good lookin girl i see. I used to act on it but not anymore, and my impulses are getting better |
Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 20014 Registered: Jun-06 | I like women. That's about all I want to add to this thread. |
Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11178 Registered: Jul-06 | Where did I call you gayy Kyle? Lol. Rico, sweet arguement man. I have no rebuttle.... |
Silver Member Username: Armykyle1Ms Us Post Number: 478 Registered: Dec-08 | i was taking the begining of your comment as calling me gayy. no problem. i like women too |
Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 2408 Registered: Oct-07 | all of you stfu. |
Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 4684 Registered: Mar-06 | And Snow, stfu. Seriously, is that your new catcth prase? Cause it seems to be in every post you make. Very funny imo. |
Silver Member Username: Wolf_houndPhoenix, AZ Post Number: 810 Registered: Sep-05 | He stole it from me cuz i always tell him to stfu lol. |
Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 2412 Registered: Oct-07 | sikee. |
Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, WI Post Number: 3554 Registered: Mar-07 | This thread is ftl |
Platinum Member Username: Basshead86Steady as she goes... Post Number: 10409 Registered: Aug-05 | this thread....is.... |
Silver Member Username: Armykyle1Ms Us Post Number: 489 Registered: Dec-08 | jules, snow ftl stfu ......... |