I have been reading the posts here and doing research on HD DVR's. The question after researching for some time...does anyone know of a decent dual tuner player that is currently being sold in Italy (or, in Europe) . The Panasonic does not seem to be on the market here just yet. Also, am I over-thinking the use of a dual-turner? This will be a gift for my boyfriend...my thinking is thathe will want to record something while out or record one thing whil watching another. Here in Italy we use a black box converter. We may at some point in the near future go to satellite. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the help. -c-