How to connect two recievers?
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New member Username: By2006Post Number: 1 Registered: Dec-06 | hi , i have tow recievers , i connect both of them ,for tow rooms, the problem is if i turn the first one i loose signal on the secend one please help, |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11056 Registered: Jan-08 | said aozal You can't use both receiver on same LNB, you must use LNB with 2 outputs. List the satellites that you use and we can help you to make that it work.  |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 400 Registered: Aug-09 | depending on your actually setup some higherer end switchs can work also to distribute the signals to several boxes |
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Silver Member Username: El_toro_the_greatNC USA Post Number: 101 Registered: Jul-09 |  said aozal..........run a cable from each out put directly to each receiver...no switches!...you only have 1 LNB no need for switches |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 408 Registered: Aug-09 | yes you WILL NEED 2 switches !!1!!! 2 4x1's like DUH !! or only 1 LNB per box |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 409 Registered: Aug-09 | DOHH !! |
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Gold Member Username: JustforhahasPost Number: 1859 Registered: Jul-08 | Much more info needed...list all hardware (LNB's # and type, switches type, receivers# and type) and cable configurations from dish to each receiver...receiver settings...etc....many variables will cause 2nd receiver to not work.. once you identify the specifics and details of your setup, the problem can be resolved.. |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 410 Registered: Aug-09 | I THINK WE HAVE A FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE ! shakin it boss |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 4425 Registered: Oct-06 | Whisky STFU Yo know nothing about LNBs That Aspen is a circular dual LNB Yo have no clue what satellite he's using If he follows yor advice and buys that Aspen it may not work if he's pointed to 97W if that happens to be the bird he's got Can't yo see this is his first post? Typical 14 year old TFR said aozal From what yo described It sounds like a single ouput LNB feeding to receivers Or somehow Yor Sat Signal is split Since yo can't split V & H Polarities with one Coaxial What yo need is a dual LNB similar to the LNB in Photo by that Retard One to each receiver Playmoth and Justforhaha are right Don't pay attention to other clowns Listen only to senior members So give us more detail to guide yo with best solution |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11058 Registered: Jan-08 | Playmoth!!!!!!!!  |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 412 Registered: Aug-09 | king you have such a suttle way of putting things into perspectives !! |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 4426 Registered: Oct-06 | Sump This is a long story This idiot has over 12 nick names Always like to challenge me despite his knowledge & IQ at lowest on earth He's always wrong He reminds me with Katy Perry's song: Yo change your mind Lika girl changes clothes Yeah, yo PMS lika b!tch I would know Yeah, yo always think ...Always speak cryptically I should know....That yo're no good for me Cuz yo're hot then you're cold Yo're yes then yo're no Yo're in and yo're out Yo're up and yo're down Yo're wrong when it's right It's black and it's white ta tata tata ta ta ta.... And verse repeats few times |
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Gold Member Username: Mrskullz1New York Post Number: 1235 Registered: Feb-07 | lmao |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16180 Registered: Jun-06 | said aozal: You may not find it easy to change the LNB. I am a practical person, and there is always the likelyhood of your needing additional dish or LNB for another sat. I suggest therefore that you buy a simple 3 input 4 output switch. This kind of switch allows you to have three satellites coming in and distribute them to any of 4 receivers. You may be able to achieve the solution inside the house, by attaching the new 3/4 switch inside the house and connecting the two receivers. You will be using only one of the three inputs. The ideal place for a switch like the 3/4 is close to the LNB. Buy a short cable (three to four feet will do) with appropriate ends to run it from the LNB to the switch. Connect your current cable to one of the outputs and run a second cable from second output to second receiver. Try in the house method first and if not successful try the second method on the roof. |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 415 Registered: Aug-09 | this has already been said twice ... |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16187 Registered: Jun-06 | sump: excuse me, but you said he will need two switches without specifying any switch. Now kindly let this guy look at my post and see if he understands and wants to go that route. There is no need to interupt when very specific advice is being given. Your advice of "yes you WILL NEED 2 switches !!1!!! 2 4x1's like DUH !! or only 1 LNB per box" is erroneus to say the least. |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 421 Registered: Aug-09 | nalin your ingnorance is showing .... you have obviously never setup a box before what is a switch used for in FTA ? why do you get a 4x1 switch with your reciever ? my post is the most correct !!! YOUR post makes no sense go read up on switches f'''in retard |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 422 Registered: Aug-09 | here |
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Gold Member Username: GregrafPost Number: 3527 Registered: Dec-07 |    |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16192 Registered: Jun-06 | sump: For your education. "why do you get a 4x1 switch with your reciever ? " You get a 4 x 1 switch so that you can have four LNB inputs in the switch, and channel them into your newly acquired receiver. That is what I found your answer puzzling. This guy want to direct one LNB output two two receivers. For a cost of about $25 he would get a 3/4 switch and solve his problem at the same time have surplus spca for additional two LNBs input and two more receivers output. In the past you have made some unacceptable statements and again you are coming with lack of some basic knowledge. 4 x 1 diseqC = 4 LNBs to one receiver. 3/4 switch = 3 LNBs to 4 receivers. GET IT??? |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16193 Registered: Jun-06 | Sump: 3/4 multi-switch http://www.centralsatellite.com/productview-521.html "This Mult-Switch Splitter combines two LNBs and one off-air or cable into into 4 outputs. All unused ports of the VM3400 should be capped (terminated) using 75 Ohm Terminators. This will reduce "ghosting" , interference of off-air signals, weather damage and lockups." 4-1 DiseqC switch http://www.inverto.tv/products/product.php?section=3&id=140 "This small and reliable 4 into 1 DiSEqC switch will enable the reception of signal from 4 satellites and their distribution to a single tuner Set-top box with only one cable entering the house." Also please inform and educate Greg Ruffian, the Ecoustics clown. |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 423 Registered: Aug-09 | nalin .. what is the model number of a 3x4 switch in question that you are RECOMMENDING this user to use and are saying i do not know what i am taking about !!!!!!!!!!!!!? hint retard .. http://transatelectronics.com/store/ecoda-3in-4out-multiswitch-1-sat-4-rec_P203 |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 424 Registered: Aug-09 | if you have NO practical experience you actually MUST READ the F'in information and not just look at the pictures when you CUT and PASTE |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 425 Registered: Aug-09 | 3x4 = 1 LNB to 4 recievers !!! |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 426 Registered: Aug-09 | ok i am done now ... i had some bad personal news couple hours ago and i am upset, i paritailly took it out on you. I apologize for the rudeness not the tech info. i am out for few hours. also i apologize to the forum |
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Bronze Member Username: Watch_dogPost Number: 42 Registered: Apr-09 | sump You have him in the corner go for the KO. |
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Bronze Member Username: Watch_dogPost Number: 43 Registered: Apr-09 | said aozal New member Username: By2006 Post Number: 1 Registered: Dec-06 Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 08:07 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hi , i have tow recievers , i connect both of them ,for tow rooms, the problem is if i turn the first one i loose signal on the secend one please help, said aozal to stop all this madness and help you, please tell us how you have it wired? are you running one wire from your LNB and connecting it to a splitter and from the splitter to each receiver or from one receiver to the other?} |
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New member Username: By2006Post Number: 2 Registered: Dec-06 | one lnb to reciever1 , then from loop to reciever 2 |
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Bronze Member Username: Watch_dogPost Number: 45 Registered: Apr-09 | OK,said aozal thanks, do away with the loop to receiver 2 and run a wire from your LNB to your receiver 2 and watch TV. |
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Gold Member Username: GregrafPost Number: 3529 Registered: Dec-07 | Sump you are doing a great job in this forum . No need to apologize, Some people just don't have a clue. Nalin makes my blood pressure go to 260 over 140 whenever she speaks. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16196 Registered: Jun-06 | Idiots: The MOST standard practice in FTA world for viewing from two receivers is to have a multiswitch capable of powering at least two receivers. The most frequent thing that people often do is to add another satellite because of certain need for extra channels. Combine these two needs and you end up with a multi-switch capable of handling 3 sats and outputing to 4 receivers. Joker: You never run two wires directly from one LNB to two receivers - you will get problems with both receivers. Take your joking somewhere else. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16197 Registered: Jun-06 | Grg Ruffian: Stop being a clown and get out of the pub and back home to your wife. |
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Gold Member Username: GregrafPost Number: 3531 Registered: Dec-07 | K nalin ive had to much i need a cab |
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Gold Member Username: JustforhahasPost Number: 1860 Registered: Jul-08 | U all are speculating without any idea what LNB, switches or satellite/s he may want...so why ya arguing?...u all may be right to a point and maybe not also... IF he only wants 1 satellite for 2 receivers, all he would need is 1 dual LNB (not twin LNB or ANY switches) and 2 cables, or use the loop out on the first receiver to 2nd (if he don't mind watching same channels concurrently)...BUT none of us knows what he has and really wants..so enuff said.. Ya all argue like a bunch of school girls..and none are impressive...nalin always has to complicate everything and mix the pot, she must have an orgazm everytime she posts.... |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16201 Registered: Jun-06 | justforhaha's aka LK: Surely you know better than what you just said. Or is it because you hate me so much that you have to slyly disagree although you know very well that I have said the standard FTA truth? |
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Bronze Member Username: Watch_dogPost Number: 48 Registered: Apr-09 | Joker: You never run two wires directly from one LNB to two receivers - you will get problems with both receivers. You really are stupid |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16203 Registered: Jun-06 | Wow!!! Greg Ruffian had an orgasum as soon as he saw Justforhaha's aka LK posting!! |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16204 Registered: Jun-06 | Joker: He has a single output LNB. You can't run two wires out from it. HE DOES NOT HAVE A DUAL LNB. |
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Gold Member Username: JustforhahasPost Number: 1863 Registered: Jul-08 | If wanting only 1 satellite, running 2 cables from 1 DUAL LNB to 2 receivers, works just fine...thats exactly what DUAL LNB's are made for.....case closed.. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16205 Registered: Jun-06 | HE DOES NOT HAVE A DUAL LNB. He is better off with a multi switch then change the LNB for a DUAL. QED |
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Gold Member Username: JustforhahasPost Number: 1865 Registered: Jul-08 | NEVER in this thread does the person seeking help ,EVER state he has a SINGLE output LNB...he says NOTHING about what type LNB he is using! nalin ...don't jump to conclusions..and presumptions..U continually mislead ppl with advice without knowing the FACTS! BTW...no need for any switch if using a DUAL LNB ( 2 outputs) and only 1 satellite... |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16206 Registered: Jun-06 | justforhaha's: Read the question. "hi , i have tow recievers , i connect both of them ,for tow rooms, the problem is if i turn the first one i loose signal on the secend one please help," "one lnb to reciever1 , then from loop to reciever 2" You alsways have had problem with understanding the practical aspects and long term solutions in FTA world. Tomorrow this guy will come and ask I am adding anothe dish for XYZ satellite, etc etc. I gave him a simple $20 solution to use a 3/4 mulitswitch so all his current and anticipated future needs are catered for without disturbing the LNB already installed. He would be ready for up to 3 sat inputs and for two more receivers. Next time you are thinking FTA look for simple solutions for the ordinary person. The days of tech savvy people coming to the forum are over. Simple easy to implement solution preferrably without breaking your neck climbing on roofs are what people are looking for. |
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Silver Member Username: El_tora_the_greatPost Number: 109 Registered: Sep-09 | u go girl |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16207 Registered: Jun-06 | Whiskey: justforhaha's is a male/female. She is far more knowledgable then you are, so you just shut up. |
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Silver Member Username: El_tora_the_greatPost Number: 110 Registered: Sep-09 | You are a female too you sick old b1tch |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16208 Registered: Jun-06 | That's not what my wife thinks, you dumb old hommo |
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Bronze Member Username: Blade1Post Number: 32 Registered: Jul-09 | WHAT?!!!?? Whiskey is a transexual monkey? |
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Bronze Member Username: Watch_dogPost Number: 49 Registered: Apr-09 | said aozal said he had one LNB he did not say if his Lnb was a single or a dual. what kind of multi-switch to connect two receivers to one sat? Are you talking about a splitter? If his Lnb is single a Multi-switch would cost as much or more then a dual Lnb and he would still have to run another wire from the Multi-switch to the second receiver. said aozal I do fill bad about all this but do what ever is best for you |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16211 Registered: Jun-06 | Joker: sorry for you but it is more convenient to try a 3/4 mulit-switch inside the house. We know that it WILL do the job. |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11060 Registered: Jan-08 | Sump There are 2 kind of 3X4 Multiswitch One with 3 LNB imput and one with 2 LNB imput and VHF/UHF TV antenna. You don't need to insult Nalin, he is right on it!!!!!  The guy doesn't give any reply, so this is a good romantic thread where everyone give a answer without known what system he had.  |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11061 Registered: Jan-08 | said aozal Look on your dish and check if you have a LNB with 2 outputs, if yes you must put a new wire and hook it on your second receiver. The Loop output work only if you use both receiver on same channel. Is it a Dish or Bev original dish? |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16214 Registered: Jun-06 | Thanks Plymouth. |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11062 Registered: Jan-08 | Nalin You are Welcome! Sump need to be more respectable with helpers, we tolerate his publicity on Ecoustics because its helps, but he should not insult the members. |
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Gold Member Username: JustforhahasPost Number: 1866 Registered: Jul-08 | justforhaha's Gold Member Username: Justforhahas Post Number: 1860 Registered: Jul-08 Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 08:27 pm: Edit Post IF he only wants 1 satellite for 2 receivers, all he would need is 1 dual LNB (not twin LNB or ANY switches) and 2 cables, or use the loop out on the first receiver to 2nd (if he don't mind watching same channels concurrently)...BUT none of us knows what he has and really wants..so enuff said. Plymouth Platinum Member Username: Plymouth Canada Post Number: 11061 Registered: Jan-08 Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 09:49 pm: Edit Post Look on your dish and check if you have a LNB with 2 outputs, if yes you must put a new wire and hook it on your second receiver. The Loop output work only if you use both receiver on same channel. Here we go ....Plymouth copying me again stating EXACTLY what I said earlier, just in different structure.....and then nalin, blasting me and commending Plymouth for saying the exact same thing... nalin either U are very ignorant about English comprehension, or a bigo*t and hater towards me, an American... |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11063 Registered: Jan-08 | haha's I am the first to give a answer to this guy and I asked how many satellite he had. You have reply without his answer, is it the same that you made? A bunch of idiots made speculations without reply from said aozal Take your pills |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 427 Registered: Aug-09 | NALIN AND PLYMOUTH again and again and again WHAT IS THE MODEL NUMBER OF THE 3/4 SWITCH THAT WILL DO WHAT PLYMOUTH AND NALIN SUGGEST .. SO WE CAN ALL LEARN, IF YOU ARE SUCH GOOD HELPERS ANSWER THE SIMPLE QUESTION ... |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11064 Registered: Jan-08 | sump This one: http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/S/S-SM34-3x4-multi-switch.htm Don't think that we are stupid with switch. For only 2 receivers this is useless but for 3 or 4 this is the good choice. |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11065 Registered: Jan-08 | sump You can add 1 3X4 switch for each LNB and hook it on a Diseq for each receivers, which give you a possibility to made a big system with multiple LNB's and receivers. Note that you always need LNB's with 2 outputs for more than 1 receivers system. |
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Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1994 Registered: Feb-09 | My turn.... said aozal already has a cable in the house. Why screw around at the dish? just put a switch in the house like Nalin has explained. said aozal, You came to the right place for your answers. Nalin and Plymouth are your best sources. Sump is learning. Gregraf hates anything Nalin has to say. |
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Silver Member Username: El_toro_the_greatNC USA Post Number: 107 Registered: Jul-09 | Plymouth....sump...Don't think that we are stupid with switch. No ,no one here thinks you two are stupid what ever gave you that idea? I think you two are fu-cking morans. You two may know what a 3X4 switch is when you look it up, but I will bet that you two never install one.  Nalin Nyda Platinum Member Username: Nydas Post Number: 16211 Registered: Jun-06 Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 09:35 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joker: sorry for you but it is more convenient to try a 3/4 mulit-switch inside the house. We know that it WILL do the job. DISH Network DP-34 VideoPath Dish Pro 3x4 Multi-Dish Switch (DP34) 107107 Works with Dish 300 and Dish 500 satellite systems. Can be used to cascade additional DP34 multiswitches for more receiver outputs. Can only be used with DishPro LNBFs. Availability: In Stock Our Price: $74.99  . |
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Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1997 Registered: Feb-09 | LMAO |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 4428 Registered: Oct-06 | There is only one Stupid Retard on this forum That's yo aribian boi This switch is a polarity stacker It passes both V&H polarity on one coaxial if the LNB is dual to start It converts 14v(V) and 18v(H) to one common stack of 20V(V&H) Basically works only with Dish Net power supply and accessories I see yo know nothing about it to compare it with a 3x4 Sw TFR |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16215 Registered: Jun-06 | If you are using a FTA receiver, avoid using a DP34. Use the switch suggested by Plymouth. http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/S/S-SM34-3x4-multi-switch.htm If you have a Dishpro LNB and two Dish receiver, you should use a DP34. All connections can be made inside of your house. 1. Disconnect the main cable coming from the roof and put it into Input 1 of your 3/4 multi-switch. 2. Disconnect the cable going from your receiver no 1 to receiver no. 2 and put it into output no 2 of your 3/4 multi-switch. 3. Connect a new short cable from output 1 of your 3/4 switch to the input of your receiver no 1. You are all set to view two different channels on the two receivers. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16216 Registered: Jun-06 | From a practical point of view, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER THERE IS A DUAL OR A SINGLE LNB The method I have described requires very little effort, no climbing on the roof, very little cost and a 100% chance of success for a novice. |
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Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1998 Registered: Feb-09 |  |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11066 Registered: Jan-08 | Whiskey Username: El_toro_the_great Go play with your Tonka!!!! |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 4430 Registered: Oct-06 | "From a practical point of view, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER THERE IS A DUAL OR A SINGLE LNB" Is that right Nalin? How is that going to improve his polarity share issue? Single LNB is a single Polarity V or H But not both at same time since he's using loop out In electronics we call it exclusive-OR or X-OR I haven't seen any product out there that converts a single LNB to a dual And I know yo know electronics Unlike this 14 year old aribian boi who doesn't know sh!t about electronics So therefore the only solution for original poster is: - Replace LNB with a Dual LNB matching same freq - Run 2 coaxial cables one to each receiver - Case closed |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 429 Registered: Aug-09 | No NALIN and Plymouth ... 1) 3x4 switches are all the same that's why there called 3x4 and not 4x1 or 4x4 2) you MUST have a DUAL LNB to use it, one wire from the roof will NOT work on a 3x4 switch in the basement 3) IF he does if fact have one dual LNB running one wire from each port to each receiver will absolutely work fine 4) the most likely thing he probably has is a twin or 2 singles up there with a diseque on the roof and one wire coming down with the recievers tied together so with that said someone needs to get to the dish, one new wire needs run from the sat to 2nd reciever, based on #4 adding a 4x1 to the existing setup and running new wire to 2nd is the best solution and will allow for future expansion or based on #3 running new wire to 2nd box is the best and will allow for future expansion |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 430 Registered: Aug-09 | sorry king missed the post we posting at same time .. but are saying same thing good post KING |
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Silver Member Username: El_toro_the_greatNC USA Post Number: 114 Registered: Jul-09 | Plymouth Platinum Member Username: Plymouth Canada Post Number: 11066 Registered: Jan-08 Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:16 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whiskey Username: El_toro_the_great Go play with your Tonka!!!! Plymouth Forum Rules DO NOT use profanity or demean your fellow users. |
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Silver Member Username: KingsatmanJames MacPhuck, Middlesex co... Canada Post Number: 466 Registered: Nov-07 | Whiskey On behalf of Plymouth please accept my apology I think what he meant is GO FU.CK YORSELF Stupid aribian Retard |
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Silver Member Username: El_toro_the_greatNC USA Post Number: 115 Registered: Jul-09 | POST # 4 Whiskey Silver Member Username: El_toro_the_great NC USA Post Number: 101 Registered: Jul-09 Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 07:30 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- said aozal..........run a cable from each out put directly to each receiver...no switches!...you only have 1 LNB no need for switches  |
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Silver Member Username: KingsatmanJames MacPhuck, Middlesex co... Canada Post Number: 467 Registered: Nov-07 | This is 12.2 to 12.7GHz for DTV yo stupid qweer Works on Circular polarities How do yo know if he's using Linear or Circular yo fu.cking H0M0? |
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Silver Member Username: El_toro_the_greatNC USA Post Number: 116 Registered: Jul-09 | Yukon Silver Member Username: Kingsatman James MacPhuck, Middlesex co... Canada Post Number: 466 Registered: Nov-07 Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:47 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whiskey On behalf of Plymouth please accept my apology I think what he meant is GO FU.CK YORSELF Stupid aribian Retard King Tapeman Forum Rules DO NOT use profanity or demean your fellow users. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16221 Registered: Jun-06 | A 3/4 switch is designed primarily for three inputs (2 LNB + Antenna or 3LNB) and outputs to four receivers. It does not mean that you have to populate all the inputs and use receivers on all the outputs Therefore, whatever signal(s) are coming down to him can be distributed by a 3/4 multiswitch to four receivers. If it is D/N LNBs then use DP34 and Dish receiver. If it is non-DN LNB coming down then use a 3/4 multiswitch. To educate yourself, please read this sticky at Whether you have any of the four types of legacy LNBFs, or Standrd FTA dual LNB, or Dishpro LNB (3 types), you can use the appropriate 3/4 switch to go to two receivers. |
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Silver Member Username: El_toro_the_greatNC USA Post Number: 117 Registered: Jul-09 | Yukon Silver Member Username: Kingsatman James MacPhuck, Middlesex co... Canada Post Number: 467 Registered: Nov-07 Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:59 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is 12.2 to 12.7GHz for DTV yo stupid qweer Works on Circular polarities How do yo know if he's using Linear or Circular yo fu.cking H0M0? You Sir know nothing about this Hobby More of this name calling and you will leave me no choice but to report you to the Admin. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16223 Registered: Jun-06 | Whiskey: Will you just get off this thread. Go and report to Admin, if you want to. We are all talking about DN, not DTV, so Yukon gave you a proper shove off. In your own language, you have "no choice but to report" Yukon "to the Admin". So be a good boy, and do just that and wait in that thread for the next 3 days while we sort out the technical arguments here, OK? |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 431 Registered: Aug-09 | NO NALIN AND PLYMOUTH again you read it is supportting EXACTLY what myself and King are saying here is the relitive part *************************************** The 3x4 Multiswitch is one of the most common multiswitch used in FTA. Combines the 2 outputs from a standard dual LNB into the 2 inputs of the switch marked 13v(Vertical) and 18v(Horizontal) usually the 2 outer inputs on the top of the switch. The 3rd or middle input on top of the switch is used for an input from an antenna or cable tv* . The outputs on the bottom of the switch is to feed up to 4 receivers or feed other FTA switches. (These are pictured on the left in the first and seconded pictures) ***************************************************** read this line again ... Combines the 2 outputs from a standard dual LNB into the 2 inputs of the switch marked 13v(Vertical) and 18v(Horizontal) usually the 2 outer inputs on the top of the switch that is ONE DUAL LNB look at the pictures so you can educate yourself what means you need to hook BOTH sides up from the LNB to the 3/4 Switch so how the hell are you going to do that with ONE wire in the BASEMNET ?? RETARDS ... YOU MUST GO ON THE ROOF !!!! YOU MUST RUN 2ND WIRE FROM THE ROOF IF IN FACT HE DOES HAVE A DUAL LNB AND YOU MUST RUN A WIRE FROM THE ROOF THERE IS NO NEED FOR 3/4 SWITCH !! DOOHHH |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 432 Registered: Aug-09 | http://images.solidsignal.com//iview.asp?p=sam3402&xzoom=Large#xview if you look at the little markings on the inputs it does NOT SAY LNB 1, LNB 2, like a 4x1 switch it is labeled that way for a reason not because they thought it would be cute !! |
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Silver Member Username: El_toro_the_greatNC USA Post Number: 119 Registered: Jul-09 | sump give it up those two are too stupid to understand what you are saying. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16227 Registered: Jun-06 | Sump...King: We agree to disagree. I see no point in continuing further. As the story goes about the Greek philosophers sitting round a table discussing and never agreeing on the number of teeth in a horse's motuh, and the farmer walks in with a horse and tells them - Open the mouth and count. The way to resolve would be similar - do it and see the result. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 4431 Registered: Oct-06 | "A 3/4 switch is designed primarily for three inputs (2 LNB + Antenna or 3LNB)" Not 2 LNBs Rather One LNB (1-for V Pol, 1-for H Pol), 1-for Antenna This won't correct the problem he's having When he watches H-Pol programs he can't watch V-Pol at same time on two receivers 3x4 switch is designed for One Dual LNB 1-designated for 14v Vert Pol 1-designated for 18 Horz Pol 1-for antenna 4-Outputs to 4 receivers Yo can read this section: https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=1496579#POST1496579 I think yo assumed 2 inputs for 2 LNBs But it's rather for 2 polarities of same LNB This 3x4 basically splits one dual LNB to 4 different receivers Peace Bro |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11072 Registered: Jan-08 | http://sadoun.com/Sat/Installation/Multi-LNBF/4-receiver-4-lnbfs.htm |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 435 Registered: Aug-09 | Nalin and Plymouth .. ***************************************** Sump...King: We agree to disagree. I see no point in continuing further. As the story goes about the Greek philosophers sitting round a table discussing and never agreeing on the number of teeth in a horse's motuh, and the farmer walks in with a horse and tells them - Open the mouth and count. The way to resolve would be similar - do it and see the result. ****************************** that analogy is true because there was no INFORMATION, no one counted before and wrote it down This has subject tons of info saying the same thing even your backup documentation. The trouble is you guys really do not understand the facts in front of you. You could just be a MAN and admit that you's are wrong , like i have before here. you guys do good with the NON technical stuff but become lost when it gets past a certain point. So instead of us and them it can be we ..... that is the learning process |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16231 Registered: Jun-06 | We agree to disagree. I see no point in continuing further. QED |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 436 Registered: Aug-09 | Plymouth ... NO again ... ******************************************************** Plymouth Platinum Member Username: Plymouth Canada Post Number: 11072 Registered: Jan-08 Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 12:33 pm: Edit Post http://sadoun.com/Sat/Installation/Multi-LNBF/4-receiver-4-lnbfs.htm ********************************************************** just another cut and paste that you have no idea what is going on in the little pictures .. some of us here do !! This supports what we are saying .. Look at ONE LNB .. the first switch 2 wires to one switch then one out YOU CANNOT USE THE 3x4 with ONE wire from the LNB !!! it is the wrong switch for this application DOOOHHH |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 437 Registered: Aug-09 | if all the old guys that were sitting at the table 8 in total ... counted the teeth, 7 said 18, one said 24, what would one conclude ? the one that counted 24 is RETARD and rode short bus to school and can't count ? |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16232 Registered: Jun-06 | We agree to disagree. I see no point in continuing further. QED |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11073 Registered: Jan-08 | sump I just want advertise you that I doesn't bashed you, so stop your bashing on me or you will see what will happen with you!!! I will stop your publicity on this site, remember that you are a competitor to Ecoustics. Right! If you think that I don't understand what is in the picture , do few search on Ecoustics before pretend to know all. |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 441 Registered: Aug-09 | sir how did i bash you ? |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11074 Registered: Jan-08 | ""just another cut and paste that you have no idea what is going on in the little pictures .. some of us here do !!"" This one!!! |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11075 Registered: Jan-08 | sump I never say that you can use only one wire on a 3/4 switch, read a little. |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 443 Registered: Aug-09 | Plymouth says .... ********************************************************** Plymouth Platinum Member Username: Plymouth Canada Post Number: 11064 Registered: Jan-08 Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 07:44 am: Edit Post sump This one: http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/S/S-SM34-3x4-multi-switch.htm Don't think that we are stupid with switch. For only 2 receivers this is useless but for 3 or 4 this is the good choice. ******************************************************** you are saying that the switch WOULD work knowing he has only one wire YOU READ Next .....you post ********************************************************* Plymouth Platinum Member Username: Plymouth Canada Post Number: 11072 Registered: Jan-08 Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 12:33 pm: Edit Post http://sadoun.com/Sat/Installation/Multi-LNBF/4-receiver-4-lnbfs.htm ******************************************************* trying to say that it will work also the 3/4 switch ? Knowing he has only one wire SO YES U DID SAY IT WOULD WORK TWICE !! |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11076 Registered: Jan-08 | sump You are not able to found where I says that, I says that a 3/4 multiswitch can work but I never say that you can do it with only one cable, you misinterpreted my post, I says that with only 2 receivers you only hook 2 cables on a LNB with 2 outputs. Stop your arguing and found where I says it!!!! |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 444 Registered: Aug-09 | that was your post ... C&P the thread was about ONE WIRE so any reference to a device that needed 2 WIRES was USELESS !!! CONFUSING!! and NOT HELPFULL!! you knew the man had only ONE wire .. so the fact that YOU said it would work or suggested that switch ....SAYS that you recommended it ... by the fact of your post ! why would you even post something you KNOW doesn't work if you understand the problem ? |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 4437 Registered: Oct-06 | "Btw don't trust King Tapeman he is also another Big Big fu-cking Rat." Nope Yo don't have to worry about that Members here trust yor 50 usless posts over me |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16233 Registered: Jun-06 | Dishpro question only. King, would you kindly let us know what would happen if only one sat e.g 119W was connected to this. Will two (or 3 or 4 receivers) work? http://www.prosatellitesupply.com/dish_network_dp34_switch.htm Combines 3 Orbital Locations to power 4 Receiver Outputs Features '¢ Three inputs to capture signals from three orbital locations (61.5°, 105°, 110°, or 119°). '¢ Four outputs for connection to four single-tuner receivers. (Any combination of single and dual-tuner receivers can be connected however, dual-tuner receivers act as two separate receivers and require connection to two ports.) '¢ Three "cascade" feeds to cascade to other DP34 switches. Up to three DP34 Switches can be connected in a cascade to feed up to 12 single-tuner receivers. '¢ Switch is powered by receiver. Does not require AC/DC power insertion. |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 446 Registered: Aug-09 | Plymouth Platinum Member Username: Plymouth Canada Post Number: 11065 Registered: Jan-08 Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 07:52 am: You can add 1 3X4 switch for each LNB and hook it on a Diseq for each receivers, which give you a possibility to made a big system with multiple LNB's and receivers. Note that you always need LNB's with 2 outputs for more than 1 receivers system. ******************************************************* you posted this too it is bull !!! BIG bull !! the whole post if you have dual LNB you do not even need the 3x4 switch !!! DUH just the disques ... so why did YOU RECOMMEND SWITCHES that are NOT NEEDED ? and KNOWING that he has only ONE WIRE FROM ROOF YOU READ !!!! |
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Bronze Member Username: Watch_dogPost Number: 54 Registered: Apr-09 | said aozal New member Username: By2006 Post Number: 1 Registered: Dec-06 New member said aozal......Post Number: 1 Registered: Dec-06 I bet you all will not see post number 2 ecoustics should change this forum from Satellite TV to My Laughing Place Btw .....said aozal thanks |
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Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1999 Registered: Feb-09 | He probably went and got a cable sub. |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11077 Registered: Jan-08 | Joker Here is the answer from: said aozal New member Username: By2006 Post Number: 2 Registered: Dec-06 Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 07:23 pm: Edit Post one lnb to reciever1 , then from loop to reciever 2 Read before open you big mouth!!!!! Sump Here is my answer to said aozal: Plymouth Platinum Member Username: Plymouth Canada Post Number: 11061 Registered: Jan-08 Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 09:49 pm: Edit Post said aozal Look on your dish and check if you have a LNB with 2 outputs, if yes you must put a new wire and hook it on your second receiver. The Loop output work only if you use both receiver on same channel. Is it a Dish or Bev original dish? Where you see a problem? On my first reply I made a little error when I writed: "You can't use both receiver on same LNB" I forget to write LNB output, but we don,t need to be much bright to read the complete post and understand what I'm saying My first post: ""You can't use both receiver on same LNB, you must use LNB with 2 outputs. List the satellites that you use and we can help you to make that it work. "" I hope now that you will understand and stop your arguing!!! |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 4438 Registered: Oct-06 | "Dishpro question only. King, would you kindly let us know what would happen if only one sat e.g 119W was connected to this. Will two (or 3 or 4 receivers) work?" Well, this is an excellent question From what gathered - Each LNB on all D#N is a dual LNB to start with - Internal circuit board that connects each LNB it does something called stack polarity Meaning it takes both 14v, 18v polarity on a new stack polarity of 20V via one coaxial cable instead of 2, voltage is collected via DP34 or DP44 - They use a separator 123254 for dual tuners if they need to split it  D#N perfected this process to send in particular for DVRs in multiple rooms on one coaxial Now keep in mind this separator works with DishPro LNBs only, DP34 or DP44, the separator when required The new black HD receivers has built in separators for dual tuners I hope this answers yor very good question |
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Bronze Member Username: Watch_dogPost Number: 55 Registered: Apr-09 | What about these two posts when Nalin said more convenient to try a 3/4 mulit-switch inside the house. We know that it WILL do the job then you say to sump...You don't need to insult Nalin, he is right on it!!!!! Nalin Nyda Platinum Member Username: Nydas Post Number: 16211 Registered: Jun-06 Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 09:35 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joker: sorry for you but it is more convenient to try a 3/4 mulit-switch inside the house. We know that it WILL do the job. Plymouth Platinum Member Username: Plymouth Canada Post Number: 11060 Registered: Jan-08 Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 09:43 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sump There are 2 kind of 3X4 Multiswitch One with 3 LNB imput and one with 2 LNB imput and VHF/UHF TV antenna. You don't need to insult Nalin, he is right on it!!!!! now let us see how the rat gets out of this trap. I would say that you and Nalin should get down on your knees and apologize to Mr. sump |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11078 Registered: Jan-08 | Joker You are a idiot or you are not able to read!!! Here is a 3X4 multiswitch with 3 LNB inputs: http://sadoun.com/Sat/Products/JVI/35-DN34.htm One 3X4 with 2 LNB inputs and VHF/UHF TV antenna: http://sadoun.com/Sat/Products/S/S-SM34-3x4-multi-switch.htm Take your pills and learn again! |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 447 Registered: Aug-09 | Yes Plymouth i accept your apology for being wrong .. also from Nalin's link in the PDF file "The DPP Separator is with with DPP LNBs & DPP switches only. A DPP Separator can placed on a single RG6 cable to output to a dual tuner receiver. Most FTA receivers do not support the separator so does not work with FTA systems. The Sonicview 360elite PVR is the only FTA receiver that DPP Separators work with so far, however as new models come out -- more will support the DPP Separator." also you need 2 of these switches ..one on the roof and then another @ the reciever to unsplit the signal this will not work for 2 separate receiver boxes IMHO DP PLUS LNB's add a whole other level of discussion ... the solution STILL puts you ON THE ROOF !! POST # 3 in this thread was and is the answer until information was given from user |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 4439 Registered: Oct-06 | Nalin Yo can check few specs on it here: http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?mc=02&p=123254&d=DISH-Network-Dish-Pro-Plus -DPP-Separator-(ES148534)&sku= |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 448 Registered: Aug-09 | PLYMOUTH you are the IDIOT NO No no again .... C&P only NO KNOWLEDGE to back it up !!! http://sadoun.com/Sat/Products/JVI/35-DN34.htm this is not a 3x4 switch it is a DP 34 MULTI SWICTH yea yea yea another typo !!! it was 1 of the solutions i said in post #3 |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 449 Registered: Aug-09 | king .. this MUST have a DP Plus LNB to work which i am sure you know .. |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11079 Registered: Jan-08 | Sump c0ck socker!!! Why you give this answer when you don't know which LNB the guy has. Poor idiot yourself! A DP34 is a 3X4 multiswitch made for Dn We can talk about C/P from you everytime on your ch1t site. Look you in the mirror stupid sump! |
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Gold Member Username: GregrafPost Number: 3535 Registered: Dec-07 | Wow sump you have come a long way down the acoustics trail. I new you couldn't stay nice forever. |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 450 Registered: Aug-09 | joker ...  |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 451 Registered: Aug-09 | Plymouth ... you were bashing joker for exposing YOU !! I know I know just another typo, or just idiot ..... a DP 34 is one of the solutions that i was refering to but at the time it was unnecessary to go into specifics that early into the discussion not knowing all the facts, figured to keep it short and simple. You can dodge and run but cannot hide on this one .. YOU MUST GET ON THE ROOF to solve this gentlemens problem you cannot do it in the basement with switches See i have no problem saying i C&P I cut and Paste .... but most of the time i know what i am cutting and pasting and can explain it YOU SIR are clueless in this matter YOU DO NOT !! then again i can type my own stuff w/o C&P |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11081 Registered: Jan-08 | Bla Bla Bla!!!! |
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Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 2002 Registered: Feb-09 | I guess it is you and me. |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11082 Registered: Jan-08 | and the whinner is............Waste sump  |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 452 Registered: Aug-09 | u guys crack me up !!! |
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Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 2009 Registered: Feb-09 | That Rico is huge! Thanks Esvaldo. You must have got the details from our chica in Columbia. |
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Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 2010 Registered: Feb-09 | POST #2 Plymouth Platinum Member Username: Plymouth Canada Post Number: 11056 Registered: Jan-08 Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 06:30 am: said aozal You can't use both receiver on same LNB, you must use LNB with 2 outputs. List the satellites that you use and we can help you to make that it work. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16234 Registered: Jun-06 | We have already proved that my suggestion of a DP34 for Dishpro receiver will work. It is a simple matter of a DP34 with only one LNB attached to it. it will distribute the signal to 2-4 receivers. QED. Next question to King please. This guy said aozal has one cable coming to his receiver and he has all the channels on it. From that description what kind of LNB and setup he might have? |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 458 Registered: Aug-09 | yep makes all the sence in the world ... hmmmm .. used DP34 68$ cad plus shipping .. well some RG6 cable and 2 ends PRICELESS !! |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 460 Registered: Aug-09 | yep makes all the sence in the world ... hmmmm .. USED DP34 68$ cad plus shipping .. http://www.worldwidesatellites.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_62&products _id=204 well some RG6 cable and 2 ends PRICELESS !! |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11092 Registered: Jan-08 | sump You are very loud now! This is not the solution to hook 1 receiver to 1 Dual outputs LNB but it can work. Read the total thread and see the majority says only to installed a new cable. |
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Silver Member Username: ChumleyPost Number: 594 Registered: Dec-08 | AZZHOLE PLAYMOUTH STFU |
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Silver Member Username: PicanhaEast LA Post Number: 734 Registered: Jun-08 | sump Playmouth and nalin get pizzed when someone has more knowledge then them. It's downhill from here. They run off all good help |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 11094 Registered: Jan-08 | Cumley Go play with your toys Chevez You are the clown of the site, so your comments are like you. |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 462 Registered: Aug-09 | Plymouth ... CAN YOU HERE ME >>> NOW ? |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 463 Registered: Aug-09 | Plymouth ... CAN YOU HEAR ME >>> NOW ? |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 464 Registered: Aug-09 | plymouth this majority ?? but NOT you ***************************************************** SUMP SAID .... No NALIN and Plymouth ... 1) 3x4 switches are all the same that's why there called 3x4 and not 4x1 or 4x4 2) you MUST have a DUAL LNB to use it, one wire from the roof will NOT work on a 3x4 switch in the basement 3) IF he does if fact have one dual LNB running one wire from each port to each receiver will absolutely work fine 4) the most likely thing he probably has is a twin or 2 singles up there with a diseque on the roof and one wire coming down with the recievers tied together so with that said someone needs to get to the dish, one new wire needs run from the sat to 2nd reciever, based on #4 adding a 4x1 to the existing setup and running new wire to 2nd is the best solution and will allow for future expansion or based on #3 running new wire to 2nd box is the best and will allow for future expansion |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 4440 Registered: Oct-06 | "his guy said aozal has one cable coming to his receiver and he has all the channels on it. From that description what kind of LNB and setup he might have?" That's what I was trying to find out myself But I'm almost certain he's got 97W Therefore Linear LNB And this idiot Whiskey posts Aspen Circuilar LNB I made that guess cuz the guy registered in 2006 and had only 2 posts so he either got IKS FTA or true FTA I say he got 97W true FTA with Single Linear LNB |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16238 Registered: Jun-06 | King: Thanks for your deductive logic. |
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Silver Member Username: White_girlPost Number: 116 Registered: Sep-08 | The Telephone man and his Crystal Ball   |
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Silver Member Username: RtfPost Number: 112 Registered: Aug-07 | I wonder if said aozal ever got his receivers hooked up.  |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 471 Registered: Aug-09 | RTF good one King my crystal ball said that if he ever was in FTA that he would have had 2 LNB setup, 1 sat 2 LNB and disk 4x1 on the roof that's my bet WONDER if this post can catch up with the solo hispanics !!! ( edit corrected typo's ) |
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Silver Member Username: El_toro_the_greatNC USA Post Number: 121 Registered: Jul-09 | sump I think Plymouth is mad at you for making him look like a   |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 4441 Registered: Oct-06 | Freedom of the Press and Whiskey I feel bad for yo bro Yo don't know sh!t about satellites dude Yo pick on members that are far more superior in knowledge and education Yor not even trying to learn bro Yor IQ is far from adult standards Yo can't even speak englic So I'm not sure what on earth yo're doing on this forum? Can yo please give us some logical explanation? |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 16240 Registered: Jun-06 | King: There is a lot of people on this forum and some of them with duplicate triplicate accounts, who do not understand anything about debate or even discussion. |
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Silver Member Username: SumpPost Number: 504 Registered: Aug-09 | MASTERdeBATERS |
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