IKS / IP address safety for you
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 133 Registered: Dec-07 | tools of the trade: * backtrack / Aircrack suite * router that can be flashed with DD-wrt FIRMWARE flash router with DD-WRT firmware set as a "Universal wireless repeater" to repeat any "open" neighboring network OR any single encrypted network. If encrypted you will need to use Backtrack/Aircrack suite to crack captured encryption. I have added a external Colinear antenna connected to my Linksys Wrt54GS router flashed with DD-WRT. About 1/3 of the available signals are un-encrypted (easy prey) while only 10% use WPA (very hard to crack) and the remainder use WEP (easy to crack once you learn the tools of the trade). I get great strong signals here on the island and never have to worry (or pay for WiFi internet service) about anyone knocking at my door (whose jurisdiction do we fall under anyways ?) Hell if the signal crosses my property line it's free for me to use. Google Backtrack & DD-WRT to learn how to do this. Just like the early days of programming dave there is a learning curve. But it's going to be a LONG time until there is a stand along hack for chuck (if ever) just as it's been a long time for dave. Might as well learn something new and fun and watch TV on IKS and not fear the reaper. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15740 Registered: Jun-06 | Very interesting post, and congratulations on the uniqueness of your thread. It would be a good idea to elaborate further, so that more people can understand it. |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 134 Registered: Dec-07 | http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Universal_Wireless_Repeater http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircrack-ng |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15741 Registered: Jun-06 | As I understand it from your posts. If there is a kbox operating in the neighbourhood or at home on a wireless connection, I can access it for my own use. However, i cannot access TV from the original signal as it comes from the LNB. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15742 Registered: Jun-06 | The IP address can be traced up to the original connection but not to your receiver because it is getting a different IP address. |
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Bronze Member Username: ArghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhPost Number: 22 Registered: Jul-09 | no nalin you are not accessing the satellite box, you will be pigging backing another persons wireless signal so it will look as though the IKS box you are running is resolving to another persons IP |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 135 Registered: Dec-07 | Not concerened if anyone else has a IKS device You will not be using anyones IKS. You will be using their internet and their IP address to access the internet. If you have your IKS FTA box connected to your router set as a "Universal wireless repeater" you will get updates on someone else WiFi internet IP address. My method is only to get FREE internet, which gives you access to the IKS servers and a IP address that does not trace back to you. |
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Bronze Member Username: Last_supperNazerith , Isreal Post Number: 65 Registered: May-09 | Ex2CTV....It does not work that way! |
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Bronze Member Username: Last_supperNazerith , Isreal Post Number: 66 Registered: May-09 | Everybody else in this thread hasn't got any idea what they are talking about ..WAY OFF. You people are so Wrong that you wouldn't understand the reality. |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 136 Registered: Dec-07 | JHC, Perhaps you don't understand. I am using a IKS FTA box (be it Nfusion, Kbox etc) to watch TV BUT I need a internet connection to connect my IKS box to the servers to get TV. I use my router flashed with DD-WRT set as a Universal Wireless router to obtain FREE internet access. I use Aircrack-NG (BackTrack live CD) to crack encrypted wireless signals if I don't waqnt to use un-encrypted signals. my method is only to get FREE internet service so that no one can trace a IP address back to me. I still have to have a IKS / FTA box. I don't know how to make it any more clear. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15743 Registered: Jun-06 | Ez2CTV: That's ingeneous. What I am understanding is that you are getting a free Internet access to somebody else's Internet connection. The IKS connection is a total bonus and nobody can trace you as user of the TV signals in the air. |
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Bronze Member Username: Last_supperNazerith , Isreal Post Number: 67 Registered: May-09 | As long as you use your PC your IP is at risk. It doesn't matter how you connect. Proxy...your neighbors router whatever. i will not argue thew point because I know 1st hand. |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 10494 Registered: Jan-08 | Jesus is a Dn, Bev or surely a troublemaker. Ez2CTV Jesus say but not argue on this that your computer send his own serial number, but this s/n is in the Register Keys and can be changed easily. I hope that you know it.  |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 137 Registered: Dec-07 | JHC, My PC does not have to be connected to the router that my IKS /FTA box is connected to. As a matter of fact I have 3 routers set up as Universal Wireless Repeaters. Each obtaining a different IP / Signal from different host. 1 of which I only use for TV (IKS/FTA box) the other 2 are for various computers I have both wired and wireless throughout the building. By doing what I have done I am isolation my IKS from my other routers & computers. If I lose a signal due to what ever reasons I can switch to another router/signal. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15745 Registered: Jun-06 | Ez2CTV: Free Internet and annonymous IKS as bonus. |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 138 Registered: Dec-07 | Plymouth you are correct about changing Computer ID I do it all the time also change mac address on the fly with a simple little program for your PC |
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Gold Member Username: RunnerguyPluto Post Number: 1861 Registered: Sep-06 | Look like JHC is correct once again: It is not possible to completely hide your address. In order for any site you contact to return any data (e.g. a web page) the server HAS to know the IP address to send the reply data to. Otherwise there would be no way for the reply to get to you. Anonymous proxies add a layer between you and the server - you talk to the proxy, the proxy talks to the remote server, the remote server replies to the proxy and the proxy relays that reply back to you, but the proxy still knows your IP address (otherwise it wouldn't know where to relay the reply to) even if the remote server doesn't. So now you're putting your trust 100% in the operator of that proxy - that they won't keep logs (or, at least, won't pass those logs onto authorities, assuming you're trying to hide from the authorities). You're also trusting they won't do anything with the data you send or receive through their network (since you send all requests to them, and they see all replies, they can see everything, including usernames, passwords, etc.). Just something to think about. |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 139 Registered: Dec-07 | This method is not about hiding my IP address or using a proxy. It's about using someone else's IP address for FREE just as we are using Chucks satellite signal for free. All I suggest is to learn the tools needed to obtain a free signal / IP address. Proxies is a whole different animal |
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Bronze Member Username: Last_supperNazerith , Isreal Post Number: 68 Registered: May-09 | Like I said it's not worth arguing with people of your mentality . Especially Plymouth |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15746 Registered: Jun-06 | I don't think that the people who are bound to the IP address and proxy server traditions and short-comings realise what Ez2CTV is saying. There is a real server dishing out a real IP address to a real router. That can be always traced. What Ez2CTV is saying that his special ears can see three such Internet connections who happen to be also connectible via wireless. With his method he connects to the IP address given by these three accidental ISPs, who do not even know that they have become ISPs and DO NOT usually keep records of all connections (to the router) that a proper ISP would. Ez2CTV masks these connections to obliterate all trace to him, and as he says, he uses one connection for his TV and others for normal Internet use. He even changes his own MAC address. If you view the whole setup as free Internet connection to a local router, and ingenious software to connect to this router to make that router behave like a mini server, you would begin to appreciate the enormous possibilities. |
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Silver Member Username: MzakcatPost Number: 147 Registered: Aug-05 | that is for arouter you are not using, don't buy a router and flash it just by a wireles network adapter, usb i got 802.11g or n , can connect to any open network. the IP thing is awhole different issue i care not to discuss |
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Silver Member Username: MzakcatPost Number: 148 Registered: Aug-05 | external Colinear antenna? |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 140 Registered: Dec-07 | Here is a neat setup for getting long range wifi signals. I have done something similar but with different hardware configurations. The basics are the same. Get a signal connect your IKS/FTA box to the router and borrow someone else' IP address . Just trying to give people some ideas and let them know there are solutions if you use a open mind. |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 141 Registered: Dec-07 | Home Brew Compact 6db Collinear antenna http://martybugs.net/wireless/collinear.cgi It's for Wifi to increase range/signal |
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Bronze Member Username: ArghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhPost Number: 23 Registered: Jul-09 | @ zulu & Jesus this is not about hiding your IP, proxies etc, its about using someone elses IP. So long as you are able to connect to your neighbours access point, in theory your IKS box would send its requests frmo the neighbours IP address, if you live in densely populated area with several access points, or an apartment block this would actually be pretty safe. even if IKS gets busted (which it most certainly will just a matter of time) they would track back the IP to your neighbour not you. You see you guys are right to say that your ip has to be exposed to the internet to send info back to you, but thats your PUBLIC ip, behind the access point is your PRIVATE ip which is usually not routable on the public internet 192.168.0.XXX for example. Public IP easily found and traced, but private IP on a hacked access point can be in any house, or apartment within range of the access point in question. BTW for people considering doing this its very illegal to crack your neighbours wifi. Mind you if you are willing to steal satellite I am sure you don't care.... |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 142 Registered: Dec-07 | Jimbo you understand and well said |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15747 Registered: Jun-06 | As Ez2CTV said in his first post. "Hell if the signal crosses my property line it's free for me to use. " |
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Bronze Member Username: Plymouth_glasserPost Number: 73 Registered: Apr-09 | Man Iam sure glad Ez2CTV is not my Neighbor |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15749 Registered: Jun-06 | Seymore Butts: This thread is for the intellectually gifted persons - even average intelligence will do and you don't have that. C/P from Ez2CTV above. "Home Brew Compact 6db Collinear antenna http://martybugs.net/wireless/collinear.cgi It's for Wifi to increase range/signal" You do not have tap into your next door neighbour's Wireless LAN. In fact Ez2CTV said in his first post, "I get great strong signals here on the island and never have to worry " with his Collinear antenna. |
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Bronze Member Username: Plymouth_glasserPost Number: 74 Registered: Apr-09 | Hey Ez2CTV what happen to tony pandy? sada Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000 Post Number: 3911 Registered: Oct-07 Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 05:58 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tony pandy Bronze Member Username: Ez2ctv Platinum Mem... Post Number: 94 Registered: Dec-07 Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 01:19 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sunday Ticket working on NFusion HD Just got Mail from someone with this box. This seals the deal, This will be my next box. Quote from another site by MatchStick: Nfusion group is releasing a 'special' test bin (1-8pm) only after that please use .06 bin under this test its 'highly' wise to rescan sat 91 (then look at 14 channels) this is only being tested on HD unit first rest of the units will follow after we see the results of this test so enjoy something special from the nfusion team this is S.U.N.S. 3 TEST another first from Nfusion |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15750 Registered: Jun-06 | Seymore Butts: This thread is for the intellectually gifted persons - even average intelligence will do and you don't have that. C/P from Ez2CTV above. "Home Brew Compact 6db Collinear antenna http://martybugs.net/wireless/collinear.cgi It's for Wifi to increase range/signal" You do not have tap into your next door neighbour's Wireless LAN. In fact Ez2CTV said in his first post that with his Collinear antenna, he gets " great strong signals here on the island and never have to worry ". |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 144 Registered: Dec-07 | Seymore, while Backtrack pen testing tools would allow me to gain access to your computers. I have not or have the desire to look at anyones hard drive on their computers. All I am interested in is internet access. I have setup my own computers on my routers and used the various tools on the BackTrack Live CD for pentesting to see how they work and how strong my own protection is enabled (to protect me from people worse than me ) it opened up my eyes when with tools like WIre Shark I could capture my passwords to places like My Space and capture instant msg etc. Backtrack is a great set of tools just to learn from and you don't have to hack someone with them. You may never know I might be your neighbor. |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 145 Registered: Dec-07 | Seymore Tony is still here I prefer Ez2CTV so the change no hiding as I have nothing to hide in previous post. This site for some reason when I first registered did not like the way I wanted to do it. I lived with it for a while. By the way Tony Pandy was a mentor for me many years ago and passed away 10 years ago. It's kind of a way to remember him by. |
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New member Username: AnniegirlPost Number: 2 Registered: Aug-09 | Ez2CTV, Just to be clear, you are saying that you have a wireless Dongle connected to your KBOX or what ever, which is then connected to your router which then without connecting to your computer in any manner, the wireless Dongle to router set up is able to connect to someone else's internet service, a which point you can then get the keys? How do you keep your router from showing up on the other person's IP connection? Would it not show your IP connecting to thier IP? Thanks, this sounds like a start in the right direction! |
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Bronze Member Username: Plymouth_glasserPost Number: 75 Registered: Apr-09 | Ez2CTV, You may never know I might be your neighbor. Not likely, if you are from where you say you are. HOPE ESTATE State/Province: GRAND BAHAMA ISLAND Country: Commonwealth of The Bahamas Age: 75 |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 146 Registered: Dec-07 | IKS/FTA box ------> cat 5 (hard wired) to WRT54GS router-------> wirless to-----> FREE internet (Wifi) No computer involved or needed to connect IKS/FTA to server only need computer to flash router firmware, FTA box & rub Backtrack if you need to crack a encrypted network. Damn I'm getting old! |
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Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1818 Registered: Feb-09 | Jesus Christ is correct. Any time your computer accesses the internet you the provider knows the IP of your computer. But... you are safer this way. But... your connection lies in the hands of the person that is using wireless. I can pick up somebody's wireless in my neighborhood and it is weak and slow. If I do any heavy downloading (or for that matter request to server every 15 seconds) His/Her connection slows and he resets his connection, drops me and I have to wait for him/her to come back online. A real pain in the butt. |
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New member Username: AnniegirlPost Number: 3 Registered: Aug-09 | Ok, that sounds great EZ2CTV. Thanks for the flow chart! However, when you flash the router using your computer, don't you embed the router with information that would lead someone right to our front door? What exactly is the router sending to the free WiFI spot? It has to be giving it some location information or else how would any information ever get back to our router? Fully understanding what Jimbo said above, I think there is an underestimate of the police here. Yes, they would trace the key request back to the free internet connection and investigate. At that point they would realize someone else is hacking into the connection, identify the hack, trace it and come knocking on the door. Am I way off base here? After all, I am just a shy southern girl you know! |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15755 Registered: Jun-06 | Annie Baily: If you care to read the details in the following URL posted by EZ2CTV, you will have your answer. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Universal_Wireless_Repeater |
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Bronze Member Username: ArghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhPost Number: 24 Registered: Jul-09 | @annie and your statement about underestimating the police, I am a network security specialist with over 10 years experience in the industry, this is certainly not bulletproof but rest assured when I tell you its extremely hard to determine where an access point is connecting from in a densely populated area. Even with the high end equipment I use on a daily basis, we are not able to do a 100% accurate wifi network topology diagram for some of our clients, who have open and secured network, and I work with gear that lets you input the type of material you are trying to broadcast through (steel, brick, concrete etc) and then dumps a diagram for the best places to put your access points. If you look at this way lets say I am renting an apartment on a second floor, and my wifi is open I have a neighbour to the left right top and bottom of me, anyone trying to bust the person leeching my connection would need to execute 4 search warrants to find who has an IKS box, and then match the mac addy to my own access point. It would be a legal nightmare to get that pushed thorugh As I said earlier its certainly not bulletproof, and I by no means encourage anyone to use IKS, in fact I am extremely opposed to it, but if you feel the need to put your *ss on the line for free tv, this is the safest way to do it |
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Bronze Member Username: ArghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhPost Number: 25 Registered: Jul-09 | @Ez2CTV you think wireshark is bad *ss...take a look at Iris you can decrypt packets on teh fly... and if you really want to do some pen testing get retina....I have said too much...;) |
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New member Username: AnniegirlPost Number: 4 Registered: Aug-09 | Thank's Y'all. Seems like you could just cozy up with someone you know but dont really like, use thier computer and ISP info to flash your router, then use it at your place. Thanks for all the help. Good Luck. |
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Bronze Member Username: ArghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhPost Number: 29 Registered: Jul-09 | @hook I am still saying no, if you read hte post it clearly says I don't recommend anyone using IKS, but if you feel like taking the risk, at least leeching your neighbours connection is somewhat safer. @esvaldo, if I am so technically ignorant, why you don;t you correct me with your great wisdom rather then pot stupid pics? You are implying that this will not work? Please tell me why it wouldn't? |
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New member Username: Akhan64Toronto, On Ca Post Number: 2 Registered: Dec-05 | Dear all, Please help me to buy FTA receiver. Which is the best keeping in the mind that, I have HD TV, Kbox, Sonicview or Nfusion? Which one will stay longer in the Market? |
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Gold Member Username: GregrafPost Number: 3242 Registered: Dec-07 | Nfusion is best but thats just my opinion. |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 10522 Registered: Jan-08 | I agree with Gregraf! |
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Silver Member Username: JaysonPost Number: 355 Registered: Aug-06 | yeah I agree with tony pandy....btw I'm using Plymouth's IP address right now to watch DN on my kbox.... |
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Bronze Member Username: Pirate_pete_209Post Number: 17 Registered: Jul-09 | Good I hope they knob that bit[h. |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 10523 Registered: Jan-08 | Yes Gayson is right, he doesn't have enough money to paid a internet connexion, I offered to him for use mine. Capt Hook doesn't have a receiver but by pity I sent him a Solaris for free. |
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Bronze Member Username: XtremejohnjohnsonPost Number: 56 Registered: Jan-09 | I'm really shocked how lost people are and how people are making it more complicated than it has to be. I've been using dd-wrt and you can use a script to scan your area to get the best signal and if it drops, it will go to the second strongest signal any time. If you build an antenna right, you can get over 1 mile worth is signals. I've picked up probably close to 50 connections with a directional antenna. dd-wrt also has tiny proxy, which you can add. It might be complicated for a lot of people who are windows users, which get confused with liveCD and some basic gnu tools that are required.... but having another person's connection and then still using a proxy........... |
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Bronze Member Username: Pirate_pete_209Post Number: 22 Registered: Jul-09 | James Johnaenel agree well said right to the point |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 147 Registered: Dec-07 | James and a few others that get it, Playing around with routers (wiFi) can be fun and rewarding. In my opinion it's going to be a long time before we have a stand alone fix (if ever!). People can wait and complain or have backup plans. Is IKS ever going to be 100% safe, NO but you can limit your exposure with the proper protection. if nothing else, the tools I have listed in my post above are learning tools that are fun and can be used in many legal ways. |
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Silver Member Username: ApplebeesPost Number: 252 Registered: Oct-08 | The following Information was obtained from Dr. Oleg's soon to be released "IKS Security Manual"... There is lot of rumors going on if IKS is secured. Well in short it is and then it is not. Just to give you a few points on security with IKS: 1) IKS runs on a centralized server that is a share point to servers which relay on this server. Your box is connecting to relays not the IKS Server. 2) IKS servers require UDP connection, not TCP. You can think of UDP as more secure, but the real difference is that UDP packets travel one way (request is sent from the receiver and then fulfilled by the server) but there is no guarantee on data delivery of the packet from the server. The relay - is really a relay in UDP sense - (requests can be made to one server but another server may fulfill it). Since there is no constant connection being open it is almost impossible to catch the very small (tidy) request and data travel from boxes to IKS. 3) IKS Servers accept only connections that have a receiver ID attached to the data package. No request from PC or other device can be made - this really gives much trouble in identifying what the content is of the IKS package or intercepting it. With encrypted packages, even if someone intercepts it, that interception would become useless. 4) In order for the providers to hunt you down they will need to know what servers those boxes are connecting to. To find out, they will have to intercept the traffic from the centralized server which is located off-shore (but hard to do). You can not locate the servers by looking at the routers access logs. You can only find the servers it is connecting to; and surprisingly you'll see many different connections (rotating relays), which gives us positive sense of security about IKS. 5) All the providers can do is see that your connection is making some request for data that is being transfered from a server and has been identified as suspicious. But before they can even take any action upon it the new server can be re-set and there you go, another round of finding it again will be needed. This is time consuming and very very tedious and expensive task . Even if the provider proves that the traffic from your internet connection is suspicious, they can not prove that it came from your requests and your receiver (they cant trace back anything beyond your router/modem). 6) Directv did go after the small people on the first occasion of IKS (more then 10 years ago -- ohhh yes do not be surprised IKS is nothing new) It has been used back in Dave days when a computer was needed that will serve already descrambled packages to the receiver using waffer boards or card emulators. But Dave had to physically prove that this was happening from people trying this using hardware needed to make this function, unlike today (no additional hardware is needed) So its much harder to prove if you are really doing anything unlawful at all. IKS doesn't mean you won't go down, it just means that you can come back up much faster. If your hooked up to the net and you come home and turn your box on, it will tell you if there is any new updates and gives you the option to update your box with the click of the remote button. If your watching TV on stand alone (emu ON) and it goes down you simply click menu + user settings + emu off and IKS will kick in when you exit to TV. And don't worry about anyone getting your IP address from the IKS server as it does not collect anything other than an error log saying what failed. Most have not noticed that IKS and Files are on 2 different servers and are ported to one that you are connected to. That should be enough for people to guess there is more than one server at work here. Last count there were five ported thru a chain across the web to one point of access. That point of access can be changed with a click of a button. Anyone that wants to can easily run a proxy on your system and you'll be bouncing around the world anyways. Now to the whole sending keys things. The IKS does not at anytime send keys to your box (Its illegal). It does how ever send data to your box so your box knows what to do to get itself going. To be continued.... Thank You Oleg PhD . |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 10535 Registered: Jan-08 | YES! |
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Bronze Member Username: CrazycoolPost Number: 91 Registered: Jan-08 | Good post applebee's it sounds right to me, And to the point. Thanks for the info. |
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New member Username: TechjjPost Number: 4 Registered: Nov-06 | OMG there are really a couple idiots in this thread. I have read almost the entire thread and I just have to say that JHC is a total idiot. First of all someone egotistical enough to use JC's name as his own and in a fowl way needs to be shot. Secondly Ex2CTV knows exactly what he's saying. Some of you people are not grasping the simplicity of what he is doing. There is no computer involved. It doesn't matter if the ISP see's his IP address because IT IS NOT HIS IP!!! His WiFi repeater simply looks like another computer connected to the other persons WiFi router right there in their home network. There is only one WAN IP involved and that would trace to the neighbor. If they dig into the local home network then the repeater will just look like another connected device. Could be a hand-held, laptop, cell phone, game console, anything as far as they are concerned. You can clone or mask your MAC address if you choose but I don't see it being a necessity. In short.. His repeater is acting as another computer or device on his neighbors AP. That's it. If for some reason the neighbors system is tracked then the only info seen would be all the computers and devices that had received an IP lease from the AP and if you have cloned the IP of one of the other computers on the neighbors network then even if your repeater receives a different IP it will just look like your lease had expired and another comp was in line before yours so you received a different one. |
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Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1858 Registered: Feb-09 | Thank you Tech_JJ |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15841 Registered: Jun-06 | Ez2CTV gave all the details and URLs, many did not read and griped, and Tech_JJ has properly confirmed that Ez2CTV has a very good thing going. |
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Bronze Member Username: Last_supperNazerith , Isreal Post Number: 74 Registered: May-09 |  |
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Gold Member Username: RunnerguyPluto Post Number: 1863 Registered: Sep-06 | It's one thing to steal satellite signal but to steal your neighbors IP is another matter. You should be ashamed of yourselves Nalie ,Tech azzwhipe and Ctv.  |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15894 Registered: Jun-06 | zulu: "to steal your neighbors IP" I don't expect YOU to post without reading fully. This thread is not about stealing from your neighbour and two or three technical people have clarified it. "Stealing" means you are taking away something from somebody, and it costs that somebody something to replace it. If this criterion is not satisfied than you are not stealing, e.g. you go to a party and park your car about 5 houses from where you are going. You are parking on the street. Technically that space is used by the person outside whose house you are parking - are you stealing? NO. You may not have paid municipal taxes in the town you are parking and your friend has a small house and has no parking outside his house. In London, I have often parked a mile from where I lived, left the car for the day there to go by Underground (Subway) - am I stealing the parking space? By the way, my niece does this everyday and so do countless number of Londoners. Naturally the people in the street close to the Underground are not happy about it. They do pay higher taxes. But it is not stealing and perfectly legal. So I suggest you try and read the full thread and some of the URLs suggested in the thread. |
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Silver Member Username: JaysonPost Number: 368 Registered: Aug-06 | Maybe you are not stealing from your neighbor, but you are stealing using your neighbors identity...LOL |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15903 Registered: Jun-06 | I still object to the use of the phrase "your neighbor". A priest would call everybody under the sun "your neighbor". I Canadian Government minister or beurocrat would suggest to me that every Canadian is "your neighbor", and a Ontario beurocrat would refer to every Ontario person as "your neighbor". In social parlance, strictly speaking "your neighbor" implies a few immediate physical neighbours. A person living 1 mile or even 1000 feet from me in a city street is not my neighbor. I have at least 20 huge businesses within 2000 feet of where I live - they are not my neighbours. Many people have a whole school or office complex within 1000 feet - I don't consider them as neighbours. Try and view this discussion from the point of view of a person living in a large city. Many live in an apartment complex of a 100 apartments with another 5-6 similar buildings within 2000 feet. |
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Bronze Member Username: Last_supperNazerith , Isreal Post Number: 75 Registered: May-09 | jayson and zulu are correct.....Nalin!! you are wrong |
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Silver Member Username: Plymouth_glasserPost Number: 152 Registered: Apr-09 | serious discussion. my azz There is nothing serious I see about your posts above.Again the members above have told you how stupid you really are. Azzhole can't you understand that stealing is stealing.  |
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Silver Member Username: BernardmiPost Number: 636 Registered: Dec-07 | Expect your neighbour blocking his Wi-Fi anytime when he figures out the lights blinking continuously while his computer is off. Or if he ever consults his usage log on his Internet bill. Worse yet, expect your neighbour to move due to a promotion and he won't give you advanced notice....LOL But.... this remains theft of telecommunications gents !!! |
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Bronze Member Username: XtremejohnjohnsonPost Number: 80 Registered: Jan-09 | The Outer Limits I can get signals up to close to a mile. There isnt' even a need to crack WEP/WPA as there's so many open signals that it's not even funny. It's all about the right antenna and configuration. A neighbor can move, but when you have a few other dozen open connections who cares. That doesnt' even count the encrypted ones you can crack in 60 seconds or lesss |
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Silver Member Username: BernardmiPost Number: 637 Registered: Dec-07 | I know James... you are right !!! People are sleeping. They buy wireless router at Future Shop and simply plug them without configuring it. If they were to run the configuration wizard, they would start the encryption but obviously they don't ! |
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Bronze Member Username: DoodymanPost Number: 12 Registered: Aug-09 | Nalin ! This is a discussion among people who have IQ's above 100 please do not interupt, you may read but please do not interupt. Better still just go away, |
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Bronze Member Username: Pirate_pete_209Post Number: 36 Registered: Jul-09 | Nalin....Please read Forum & Public Communication Policy advocate illegal activity or discuss illegal activities with the intent to commit them; post or distribute any material that infringes and/or violates any right of a third party or any law; It is our policy to respect the privacy of all customers. We will not monitor, edit, or disclose the contents of a customer's e-mail unless (a) you authorize us to do so, (b) we must do so in order to resolve technical problems on any eCoustics.com Site; or © unless required to do so by law or in the good-faith belief that such action is necessary to: 1 comply with the law or comply with legal process served on us; } |
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Platinum Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 10679 Registered: Jan-08 | Doodyman and Captain hook If you want pass 100 posts, please stop your attack on Nalin. He is for nothing for the bannings of your friends, they are banned for non respect of rules after many complaintss from members.  |
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Bronze Member Username: Last_supperNazerith , Isreal Post Number: 77 Registered: May-09 | Please do not take this offensively but some people could care less about how many posts they achieve. people are different in many respects! Understand? |
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Gold Member Username: GregrafPost Number: 3299 Registered: Dec-07 | Nalin is helping me become a platinum member. Thanks Rosebud. |
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Bronze Member Username: Pirate_pete_209Post Number: 38 Registered: Jul-09 | Plymouth Platinum Member Username: Plymouth Canada Post Number: 10679 Registered: Jan-08 Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 09:23 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doodyman and Captain hook If you want pass 100 posts, please stop your attack on Nalin. In the first place I don't call my post an attack. Forum & Public Communication Policy Second place I care less about a post count. It should don't mean how smart you are. This is a Public Forum and I do have the right to post answers to your and Nalin's BS. He is for nothing for the bannings of your friends, What friends are you talking about? they are banned for non respect of rules after many complaintss from members. Many complaints my azz You and Nalin now are crying and lying to the Admin thru E-mail you focking RATS. low life MOFO. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15918 Registered: Jun-06 | James Johnaenel You said: "I can get signals up to close to a mile." What type of antenna are you using? |
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Bronze Member Username: XtremejohnjohnsonPost Number: 84 Registered: Jan-09 | directv antenna believe it or not LOL The biggest problem is the connector and the distance on the cable between the antenna and the router. The higher the dish antenna is, the better, but you should keep your router inside to keep it cool. There's some decent water proof enclosures I've seen, but I prefer to keep my router inside and have the cat5 cable do the stretch. I actually have about 4 routers throughout my place, some are clients, some are access points, bridges...etc I can post step by step by step how to configure the system or at least the way I did it. You can get a decent antenna for 12 bucks that claims to be 16dbi.........I said claims, but even doing half that is a major improvement on the stock antennas on standard routers. I'm setting up a friend's house with one of these 12 dollar antennas right now, because we didn't have an extra directv dish sitting around to get that kind of distance. I'm going to guess we'll probably get about 1/16 of a mile if I had to really guess. But it's an ominidirectional antenna that gets the 16dbi, I then put reflectors on it, so I increase the strenght when I have something or a group that I want to look into that direction. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15928 Registered: Jun-06 | Thanks a lot James. I am totally dependant on son-in-law and daughter for any of this kind of work, and they are all away to a cottage taking in the last of any good weather we might get in Ontario. Father and father-in-law take second place to my grandchildren and quite rightly so. |
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Bronze Member Username: RtfPost Number: 63 Registered: Aug-07 | You Suck Nalin |
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Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvHOPE ESTATE, GRAND BAHAMA... Commonwealth... Post Number: 150 Registered: Dec-07 | Well looks like my first post has inspired a few to set this up. My intentions was not to spoon feed anyone but give peps the tools to learn from. In the last week I have seen some good tutorials on other forums. The work this involves brings back some degree of this being a hobby again. "When your green you grow, when your ripe you rot" |
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New member Username: Polish_jesusPost Number: 6 Registered: Aug-09 | Nalin actually thinks he knows what he is talking about- i think that is an even bigger joke then the ones that are afraid of their IP being traced. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15932 Registered: Jun-06 | Ez2CTV I certainly ventured into looking at and changing the firmware of my older modem/router. I am still in the learning process. I also experimented with making a colinear antenna. Getting only a few - 6-7 signals. |
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Silver Member Username: Bazuka2020Post Number: 861 Registered: Oct-05 | Correct me if I am wrong, this thread is about how to steal your neighbours wifi internet so that he or she be in trouble not you. You all should be ashamed of yourself |
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New member Username: HammersetPost Number: 2 Registered: Aug-09 | ever think that the neighbours , can find you ? if it happen their is only a few dish in the roof near ... i wouldnt take the risk ... |
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New member Username: Polish_jesusPost Number: 7 Registered: Aug-09 | Nalin knows everything about this, and many other subjects. Crazy (yes i am calling you crazy Nalin), forget being retired, you should open a satellite school for the socially and intellectually impaired. Less people trying to interact with the semi-intelligent would be a great thing for society! |
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Gold Member Username: GregrafPost Number: 3320 Registered: Dec-07 |  |
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Bronze Member Username: Last_supperNazerith , Isreal Post Number: 84 Registered: May-09 |  |
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Bronze Member Username: AtokPost Number: 35 Registered: Jun-06 | This thread is not how to steal your neighbours Wifi Signal, it about what your neighbours can do with your Wifi. So there is nothing to be ashmend off..... But what are you doing in this forum ? Trying to get DN for free? BAZUKA Correct me if I am wrong, this thread is about how to steal your neighbours wifi internet so that he or she be in trouble not you. You all should be ashamed of yourself |
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Silver Member Username: JaysonPost Number: 370 Registered: Aug-06 | I wouldn't do that if I were you!!!! |
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Bronze Member Username: Pirate_pete_209Post Number: 41 Registered: Jul-09 | what are you doing in this forum ? Trying to get DN for free? NO, must of us come here to shot the sh!t. ATOK steal from Charlie and Bev, but man don't steal from your poor azz neighbor. |
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Bronze Member Username: AtokPost Number: 36 Registered: Jun-06 | Captain... If you ready my post, I dont want to steal from my from my neighbours, but at the same time I need to know what my neighbours can do to my WiFi.... |
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