Bronze Member Username: Juchito97Post Number: 80 Registered: Jan-08 | i am new to iks so please sorry if i say anything stupid, Lol...i want to buy a kbox, sada told me the other day that if i can find a k1plus to go for it, my question is, if the k1plus if being replace with the prodigy then why should i buy the k1plus instead of the prodigy? Also, what is the different between the kbox prodigy standalone version and the kbox prodigy with khub? wich of one should i buy, k1plus or prodigy? and wich box, the standalone cersion or the one with the khub? |
Bronze Member Username: Macra12California USA Post Number: 66 Registered: Mar-09 | if you do some research, I think youll find that the prodigy is ethernet ready ( no Ihub dongle required)... which I believe would eliminate the need to buy the K1 hero, and an IHUB dongle.... |
Bronze Member Username: Macra12California USA Post Number: 68 Registered: Mar-09 | scratch that, looks like you still need a IHUB for the prodigy... heres some reading, good info... https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/576103.html |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5610 Registered: Oct-07 | yep both are same, k1plus is replaced with pridelogy, both are equally supported and have same software features, if u can get hands on with plus model, it would be 20-30 dollars cheaper then pro.. u must need to buy khub and k1plus or pro, model in order to watch nagra 3 channels, there is option for standalone which was available during nagra 2 and it will be available once nagra 3 is cracked (if u don't wanna use iks)... but for now until nagra 3 is cracked u must need to use iks in order to watch channels.. |
Bronze Member Username: Juchito97Post Number: 81 Registered: Jan-08 | Ok i got that guys, thanks alot. Now my next question is what about those power adapters, what they for and do i need them to watch tv? |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5614 Registered: Oct-07 | luis lets say u have a router somewhere in basement and u wanna watch tv on first or 2nd floor and u don't wanna set one network cable going from ur router to ur rec then u use poweradapter, other wise if ur router is close to ur tv or if u don't mind a network cable from ur router to ur rec then u don't need power adapter.. |
Bronze Member Username: Juchito97Post Number: 82 Registered: Jan-08 | Oh Ok..Lol...thats what happend when u a rookie. i was searching around and found out that kbox have b3v before, any chances they would have it again? |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5615 Registered: Oct-07 | lol luis just talking about bev or anything like that mod's will edit ur post, will give u warning and 2nd time its ban..![]() what happend with nfusion, remember one of store got raided,and since bev is always involved in iks recievers, they started to figure out to let it go until things are cool and other way to think is that they are smart enough to know what people really want to see, which is dn internartional , and they will get some english news, movie channel to get the thing going, they will add more channels, not at once but step by step.. |
Silver Member Username: KrishnPost Number: 216 Registered: Sep-06 | Sada: A correction only on west coast you can find K1 Plus from one of the official dealers and it is only $10 less than Prodigy. Prodigy sells for 129.95 without hub and K1 Plus 119.99. May be you know other places where you can get K1 Plus at lower price http://www.satellite-depot.com/servlet/the-Satellite-Receiver-cln-%26%23187-KBox /Categories |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5616 Registered: Oct-07 | subash , one member told me here that is $ 20 cheaper so that's what i mean't .. its all about supply and demand , most of k1plus are already out so i think they are few left overs, so this could be reason for price hike.. unfortunately i don't know any other "official dealer" that are selling at same price. may be some other member's who bought this now would have better idea of price range.. |
Silver Member Username: KrishnPost Number: 217 Registered: Sep-06 | Sada My post was not intended to say that you are incorrect, sorry if I came across that way. I just looked at all the official dealers from Canada listed at It might have been $20 less when Prodigy came in - probably the dealers had not realized both were almost identical and wanted to sell of the K1 Plus they had in stock. I just meant to say that currently the difference in price is only $10. I should have communicated more clearly, |
Silver Member Username: KrishnPost Number: 218 Registered: Sep-06 | Sada: Among US dealers there is stll a $20 difference in price. You are still right!!!. http://www.allstarwholesales.com/category.php?catid=22 ![]() |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5618 Registered: Oct-07 | subash yeh that's exact reason, most dealers don't know about it, when there is new model, prices for older model always go down, ![]() |
Bronze Member Username: JoseluisMeXiCaLi Post Number: 56 Registered: Oct-06 | luis that seller is kinda of expensive, if you go to kboxteam website look for authorized dealers you could save 10-20 dlls |
Bronze Member Username: TulipePost Number: 14 Registered: Jun-09 | macra12 Bronze Member Username: Macra12 California USA IT'S KHUB AND NOT IHUB ![]() |
Bronze Member Username: Juchito97Post Number: 83 Registered: Jan-08 | i am goin to use this thread so i dont have to open a new one. after search and talking to you guys i will get kbox either k1plus or pro, so after i get it what should i do first, second, ect. i already ahve a dish500 set up for my cw800 on 119,110. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5633 Registered: Oct-07 | download latest bin luis, check the other thread with smart equipment heading, they make our life so easy , with all in one thing, i am not sure why people are having problems, first of all make sure u have a router plug ur network cable from ur router to ur khub turn on khub,plug serial cable from ur khub to k1plus, u will see red light , u need to get green light, green light means good to go, to get green light u need to download latest bin which is posted on above thread.. it's that simple, |
Bronze Member Username: Juchito97Post Number: 84 Registered: Jan-08 | i have not check the thread you mention but before i checked let me ask you this, when you say latest bin, you mean the latest bin to the box, correct? and if im correct, do i load the bin before i connect the khub o after. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5634 Registered: Oct-07 | yes.. after connecting the khub.. |
Bronze Member Username: Juchito97Post Number: 85 Registered: Jan-08 | sada you the best but im sorry im still a little bit confused, the latest bin and the file to activated the khub are different? correct? so if i am right, how i activated the khub? do i activated the khub before or after the latest bin? also to load the latest bin do i need to use the null cable or via usb? |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5635 Registered: Oct-07 | ersion 2.01 (June 25, 2009) KHub activation from receiver: -copy KHub.rom to USB drive -with KHub attached to receiver, power on -Go to Menu: Utilities> Data Transfer> USB Explorer _select KHub.rom and press OK they made ur life easy now.,.. just download this on ur usb and follow the instructions. posted above.. no need to download factory crap main purpose of this bin is to activate the hub, if u still get no go, after downloading this, but first u need to download it if ur channels are still not working, then download \link{http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=98793,http://www.ftabins.net/showt hread.php?t=98793} |
Bronze Member Username: Juchito97Post Number: 86 Registered: Jan-08 | ok i got that, but in what order i do this? i activated the khub first then latest bin or the other way, latest bin first then activated khub? and after this step of activation and bin, i guess i have to go menu and scan for 119 and 110 just like i did with cw800 correct? i also see that people are talking about ip address, and stuff like that, do i may have to deal with that. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5637 Registered: Oct-07 | after downloading activation file, once u get green light, u are good to go, "green light for khub" is must, once u got it, then just scan the channels and setting as same as ur cw 800 |
Bronze Member Username: Juchito97Post Number: 87 Registered: Jan-08 | Thanks alot, hopefully i can get it done without more questions. |
New member Username: XtremejohnjohnsonPost Number: 5 Registered: Jan-09 | prodigy versus k1plus I kind of thought that the k1plus had some weakness in the hardware architecture that made making clones easier and that eventually the k1plus wasn't going to be supported. Just from what I read from nfusion and the nova and about how easy other boxes could clone and use their IKS technology when not having an offical nfusion box, made me think that maybe the kteam was doing something similar when they released the prodigy, but just speculation from my part |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5657 Registered: Oct-07 | i think kbox team ain't stupid like nfusion team may be u don't have any idea what happened in past, if u can't recall, i can refresh Ur memory , |
Bronze Member Username: TulipePost Number: 15 Registered: Jun-09 | WHAT IS THE LATEST CHANNEL LIST . THE NEW ONE . AS OF NOW KBOX IS DOWN ON MOST OF CHANNELS. I ALWAYS SAID IT'S NOT STABLE BOX |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5659 Registered: Oct-07 | you are yelling... |
Bronze Member Username: Brampton_onPost Number: 46 Registered: Nov-06 | cccccccc you do sound like yelling too many kboxes sold in last a few days too many hubs are trying to connect to the server may be kbox did'nt even anticipate all this rush at once maybe mayyyyybe they are up dating there system or server but for all these receivers i always have my fingers crossed. because it is a lot easier for dn and others to corrupt these hub servers than it is to move from nagra to nagra |
Bronze Member Username: TopyPost Number: 72 Registered: Jan-07 | Hey sada, where are headline today & aajtak & few more channels gone ? I set it up in fav, even I am not seeing them in fav, r u watching those channels ? what could possibly happend in case I did some boo boo, but I am sure I didnt touch anything.. pls reply .. thanks |
Silver Member Username: FrobiPost Number: 381 Registered: Aug-06 | recan RK. may be deleted by error |
Bronze Member Username: TopyPost Number: 73 Registered: Jan-07 | Neil, Thanks for reply, yes I did rescan, & I noticed one thing, channels didnt appeared as duplicate, only those channels came whichever were missed or deleted, isnt weird ? & I am sure that nobody deleted those channels in my house, if somebody deleted by mistake, how it will be deleted from favourite? anyway I am sharing my exp with this issue. thx |
Silver Member Username: KrishnPost Number: 220 Registered: Sep-06 | Sada: After following the following link: You get a zip file called: k1pro_201_20090625 zip after you unzip the above file you get only one file called: k1pro_201_20090625.kbx no file called KHub.rom. Where can you find that file? Which is the official site for K1Box? Thanks |
Bronze Member Username: Juchito97Post Number: 89 Registered: Jan-08 | Subash, the file "201" is KHub.rom. same file. |
Silver Member Username: KrishnPost Number: 221 Registered: Sep-06 | k1pro_201_20090625.kbx and KHub.rom are the same files OK then. Thanks Luis |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 412 Registered: Aug-07 | Sada, Activated KHub using latest activation file (6-25) red on top but green light beside ethernet port. Downloaded both 1.76 file and 201. connected one powerline adaptor to wireless router and plug directly to wall and the other connected to Khub and directly to wall. Set network auto CH/TP off keep at ch. 200 but no picture. What is wrong. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5721 Registered: Oct-07 | karbour kaka there were some server problems in morning, is itr still down for you, when u go to menu, network what kind of message are u getting? |
Bronze Member Username: Waqarkhan1971Post Number: 82 Registered: Mar-09 | Hi sada which file be loading for K1pro 186 or 200 |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5723 Registered: Oct-07 | 200 waqar.. |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 413 Registered: Aug-07 | Sada, module is not connected |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5724 Registered: Oct-07 | that means the serial port cable that goes to back of khub to back of rec is not connected, make sure its connected.. |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 414 Registered: Aug-07 | you mean the grey not the black cable, Yes it is connected. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5725 Registered: Oct-07 | menu , option , network , there is green button there for factory reset, try that, can u see anything on top where it says network setting, make sure connection mnode is under dhcp.. under option mode should be network autoroll should be off, |
Silver Member Username: AdavePost Number: 237 Registered: Jun-06 | i just did everything come out pretty sweet but one small problem if i hit the channel number come out some kind number and then channel number. How to go direct to channel number. sada pls reply |
Silver Member Username: AdavePost Number: 238 Registered: Jun-06 | oops i get it. sada u right quality is much better then nova. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5726 Registered: Oct-07 | dave also channel change is little faster than nfusion with iks i compared both system nfusion takes 5 sec k1plus 3-4 sec i am glad u got it working.. |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 415 Registered: Aug-07 | All AR are off, connections are good but still module is not connected |
Silver Member Username: AdavePost Number: 239 Registered: Jun-06 | sada i want to tell u onemore thing my nova wireless work great too. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5727 Registered: Oct-07 | karkour kaka ur grey cable is not connected, the one that goes from khub to k1plus, that is what it mean't by module not being connected, make sure all lights on for ur network adapter.. |
Silver Member Username: KrishnPost Number: 222 Registered: Sep-06 | Dave: Do you use linksys adapter for wireless? How much is the cost of wireless adapter you are using? |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 416 Registered: Aug-07 | Sada, Do you think that this new grey cable is bad? or problem with powerline adaptor because connected to wireless router? or Khub is not activated? Which of the above questions do you think may be the problem? |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5736 Registered: Oct-07 | karbour kaka there can be many problems if u have network cable , (if its possible ) can u try without powerline adapter,? u can try one thing first, just recycle the power, first turn on ur modem, then turn on ur router , and then ur khub , may be power activation will solve the problem did u try factory reset as from network mode,? may be khub is not activated, reactivate the khub, there can be multiple problems, but most likely its problem with ur powerline adapter.. i know sometimes its frustration, but again once its setup , it will be all smooth, so first thing to do is try above steps, but first suggestion would be try without powerline adapter , if its possible, make sure u get singals, sometimes a simple problem can be big headache, how many cables it came with ur hub? mine came with only grey cable one thing u can try is take out grey cable and see if its says module not connected or if it shows something else.. |
Bronze Member Username: JoseluisMeXiCaLi Post Number: 57 Registered: Oct-06 | i only see 1 question mark on the kbox, that on some forums they asociatte it to kool sat both on support team and manufacturer, otherwise im impressed on many ways with it based on my reads, i dont own one |
Bronze Member Username: TulipePost Number: 32 Registered: Jun-09 | for kbox-pro if the file 201 is for k hub . then what file is for the box itself .???// |
New member Username: TikodoggPost Number: 8 Registered: Feb-08 | nice |
Bronze Member Username: TulipePost Number: 33 Registered: Jun-09 | Luis Baez Bronze Member Username: Juchito97 201 is for the box has 1269kb khub .rom is for hub and it's only 64k. |
New member Username: Lk_livesPost: 100mil... Post Number: 3 Registered: Jul-09 | ccccccccccccccc you are very helpful tiz too bad Plymutt and f@ckface Nyda and Plymutts girlfriend Rico couldnt help as well. |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 9989 Registered: Jan-08 | Bla Bla Bla! Lk bunch of looser |
New member Username: Lk_livesPost: 100mil... Post Number: 6 Registered: Jul-09 | LK would not come to this forum with losers like you around. |
New member Username: Lk_livesPost: 100mil... Post Number: 7 Registered: Jul-09 | ![]() |
Bronze Member Username: TulipePost Number: 34 Registered: Jun-09 | nyda is fa%%g you know that LOL |
Silver Member Username: AdavePost Number: 242 Registered: Jun-06 | subhas it's netgear came with nova |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 417 Registered: Aug-07 | Sada I directly connected the activated Hub to modem, but still gives me module is not connected. |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 418 Registered: Aug-07 | Sada I directly connected the activated Hub to modem, but still gives me module is not connected. When Hub was activating it showed blinking green then red, green and finally top stayed red, but green light beside ethernet port. |
Silver Member Username: AdavePost Number: 243 Registered: Jun-06 | kaka first use factory file and 201bin and .rom file for active the hub. ftabins.net has nice explanation . you use black null cabel. Unplug every thing and plug back may be help you. |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 419 Registered: Aug-07 | Thanks Dave, but I did everything but still shows module is not connected. |
Bronze Member Username: ThorontoPost Number: 84 Registered: Jun-06 | Same problem here.... (-: trying to setup the Kbox Prodigy. Did my reading, follow all types of instruction, and still getting Module not connected, then it goes and stay trying to connect. I have also switched from DHCP to Static IP and still problems. Could it be a bad Khub? |
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15478 Registered: Jun-06 | In all types of IP connections, you should allow DHCP first, note down the IP address and then make it static. I also find that if a device is set to dish out say a range of 100-150, and I can set a static IP for the receiving device, I use higher number for static IP, e.g. 140. A device set to dish out IP addresses will give them out sequentially - 100,101,102 etc in the above example. By setting the static IP to beyond the number of devices that are likely to be connected, you are avoiding a lot of confusion. However the IP address must be settable at both ends, i.e. in the router dishing out the addresses and the device receiveing the IP address. |
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15479 Registered: Jun-06 | I forgot to mention that this applies only from router onwards where you have full control. It specifically does not apply to Internet provider to Router. |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 420 Registered: Aug-07 | Nalin, these are good writings, but what simple practicle way to address and solve this problem in a stepwise manner. thanks |
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15482 Registered: Jun-06 | I have given a more detailed understanding of IP addresses in the sonicview thread. https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/577530.html If you read and understand this, you should be able to figure out the settings for your particular settings. Unfortunately I do not have the khub or ihub, but will try and see if I can get more information out in this forum. |
Bronze Member Username: ThorontoPost Number: 85 Registered: Jun-06 | What good would IP configuration do if the Khub doesn't work? I have tried the IP configuration from the router and also setup static IP range on router and assigned it to Kbox, the Khub still refuse to work. I am thinking that it could be a bad Khub hardware... the problem now is finding the guy to get another one (-: |
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15483 Registered: Jun-06 | "K-Hub Troubleshooting (updated) C&P from hedo2002..........Updated version....... Here is a comprehensive HELP guide if your experiencing issues with connecting via your HUB. First let's make things CLEAR. The HUB is NOT produced nor "sanctioned" by K-Box. K-Box simply produces FTA units, the HUB is a THIRD PARTY device with THIRD PARTY software. Okay let's first distinguish there are THREE versions of HUBS. Each has their own version number. If you look at the hub you will see a series of numbers which begin with: 08001 08002 08003 09001 09006, THIS IS a NEW version and does NOT ship with a power adapter, Power is supplied via the BLACK CABLE, It comes with ONE BLACK cable, which is used to activate AND to run IKS. They are all basically identical, the PRIMARY difference is 08003/09001 do NOT arrive pre activated. So if YOUR hub came with BOTH a BLACK as well as white/grey/cream Serial cable then it is NOT pre activated. If you have the BLACK cable then the FIRST thing you MUST do is activate your hub by connecting it via the BLACK cable to your PC, you must then LOAD the (p) file, found in the files forum into your hub to activate it. Now let's assume your hub IS activated. The following steps will help you rule out potential problems and eliminate them as the cause of no connection. - Be sure to use the BLACK cable for activation and for connecting the hub to the K1 PROdigy, the white/grey/cream cable is for connecting the Hub to the K-Box K1PLUS. - TEST your LAN cable, on a PC, (disconnect current cable and try the one you use with your K-Box). - Ensure the settings in the MENU under Installation -> Options are set to MODE -> NETWORK, and BOTH autorolls are set to OFF - IF you are using version 08001 or 08002 version hubs, these "tend" to connect better using the STATIC settings with the DNS servers settings as 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2. You may choose your OWN ip - the first THREE sets of digits MUST mirror those of your router IE 192.168.1.X. the X may be a number of your choosing within the range of your network. IE 16, (BUT it MUST NOT be the same as ANY other device on your network, so you should check to see what IP's are currently in use on your network. - version 08003/09001 seems to work fine on the DHCP settings. - You may ALSO, (especially if your using MTS or ALIANT as a ISP) change the DNS server settings IN your ROUTER to the public DNS Servers of 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2). These ISP's servers will NOT permit your K-Box to connect, if you use THEIR DNS servers. - check that your serial cable is a RS232 STRAIGHT thru cable, for the K1 PLUS, and a NULL modem for the K1 PROdigy, and that it is good and functioning. - check to ensure you are using the AC adapter that CAME WITH the hub, do NOT use any other adapter, this could render your HUB a door stop. - There will soon be a NEW file released which will permit you to do a "factory reset" on the HUB. This file will simply return the hub to it's FACTORY settings but will NOT affect the "activation" status of the hub. IF after doing all the above try the following: Unplug Modem Unplug Router Unplug ANY wireless devices used with the K-Hub/K-Box Unplug HUB Turn k-Box off via the rear switch. Wait at least 30 seconds then re plug each device IN the SAME order that you unplugged them IE modem first, router second..... Then reboot, (turn on), the K-Box make sure the mode is set to NETWORK. The above info IF followed correctly should correct 99% of ALL connection issues. If you still can't connect, then ask in the forums for assistance." |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 421 Registered: Aug-07 | It means that for Kbox pro only black cable is used for everything, then why did they send both blck and creamy cables? Anyway The Khub is 09003 and when I used the black cable for connection with the rec. a message said checking wait for at least 10 min without any connection. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5739 Registered: Oct-07 | so lol, i was telling u it can be simple problem i wasn't sure karkour that new rec comes with two cable, may be they have extra cable for people who don't have usb, is the message still saying, did u reboot the router, and khub after putting black cable? |
Bronze Member Username: ThorontoPost Number: 86 Registered: Jun-06 | Thanks for the help, I will try again tonight... if still not working, I will put behind the door... on top of my Neosat, which is on top of my viewsat, and on top of my nfusion... (-: because I hate bell (: thanks. |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 422 Registered: Aug-07 | It works fine now after I used the black cable for connections of rec and hub NOT the grey cable. This is very important for all Kbox Pro users. Also turn evreything off then on and leave for a while and it should work. Thank you Sada and thank you Nalin for your distinguished and patient efforts for helping. Now I have to go to enjoy my new rec. |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 423 Registered: Aug-07 | Now the rec is set at network Do I keep it like this or I turn it into stand alone after I change AR to on? |
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15487 Registered: Jun-06 | Stay married to the Internet. No divorce till N3 hack. Three "talaks" or even thirty won't do!! |
Silver Member Username: AdavePost Number: 244 Registered: Jun-06 | come on kaka because of black cabel you lose tv that why told you check ftabins and put ar off dn and bev too.Everybody try to help you but every body think diffrent. |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 424 Registered: Aug-07 | You can call it brief stupidity. Thank you guys |
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15491 Registered: Jun-06 | Shanti rakho. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5741 Registered: Oct-07 | karbour kaka finally, i am so glad u got it running good, don't forget to check utlitlites like weather forecaster, under (utilities) menu, and i learn something new today.. |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 426 Registered: Aug-07 | I have already selected the city and zip code. Now how can one get the local weather? |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5742 Registered: Oct-07 | click on where it says update, |
Bronze Member Username: ThorontoPost Number: 87 Registered: Jun-06 | funny, with all the info on the Khub or just hub, mine is none one of them, mine is 09003, does it make any difference on the instructions given by Nalin, it still sitting there saying connecting wait (-: |
Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 427 Registered: Aug-07 | Toronto, mine is 09003 also. If you have Kbox pro use the black cable for activation of Hub and connection to Kbox rec. Turn everything off, then on and wait for about 15 min for network connection. Good luck |