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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 576 Registered: Dec-07 | I hope you read this. My 36" dish pointed at 118.7 with lnb CB2008A. Great signal. Getting sab and jus But ndtv show no signal.My rec sv4k. If ndtv is gone n3 I, atleast should get the signal from it, I'm getting signal from all other channels. Channel 574 which my rec shows ndtv, On the same screen it shows anik E1 11728 20000 H3/4 Whats that mean ? Do I need to do some thing manually to fix it OR. Thanks |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 8871 Registered: Jan-08 | Hi Devin I don't get all TPs on 118W, because I don't have the special LNB. Lyngsat give this setting: Tp 2 11728 L(H) #574 PID v4386 a4387 p4386 Check if you have this setting, If not try these PID number.  |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 578 Registered: Dec-07 | Thanks.I will be back. |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 579 Registered: Dec-07 | Right now the PID shows V 8192 A 8192 P 8192 I'm not sure if I need to do any thing with these numbers. If yes. How ? It won't let me change any thing. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 14882 Registered: Jun-06 | Anik F3 NDTV Imagine. TP 11728 (H) 20000 Fec 7/8 - NOT 3/4 I had suggested this to you yesterday - did you try it? The channel is working. |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 580 Registered: Dec-07 | Nalin, Now I have changed that. Bottom of the screen says (anik E1) 11728 20000 H 7/8 You must be wondering what about PID. They are still the same as I mention above. Very strangly it won't let me change the pid number. I thank you for the help. |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 581 Registered: Dec-07 | Nalin...Channels doesn't show any quality |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 582 Registered: Dec-07 | Strangly, at dish setting screen. It doesn't show 11728 In transpoder section after 11715 it jumps to 11729. It skips 11728. |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 583 Registered: Dec-07 | at dish setting screen these are the settings. sat-anik E1, lnb power -on, lnb type-universal. lnb freq-9750/10600, tp-skips 11728, 22khz-auto,search opt-all, netwrk search-on,disq-off,motor-disable,legacy switch-off |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 234 Registered: Apr-06 | Hi Devin I don't get all TPs on 118W, because I don't have the special LNB. Plymouth you have been brain washed!! Does Dishnet have a SPECIAL LNB its subscribers use? Maybe I'm the one under the rock I thought ALL dbs LNBs were interchangeable ^*%#$% Try to rescan that transponder,I've read that some times it will be inactive during your scan and it will miss what your looking for ! |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 8872 Registered: Jan-08 | joeturn I have a Invacom Universal Circular/Linear LNB, this LNB can't get all TPs on 118W, remember that 118W use a circular LNB who work on Linear frequency. I'm not new in scanning and get over 25 satellites with my motorized dish.  |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 14884 Registered: Jun-06 | Issues: 1. TP 11728 or 11729 is not the issue. You can usually allow +-3. 2. "Does Dishnet have a SPECIAL LNB its subscribers use? " Yes - when they started moving stuff from 121W to 118W, they offered the subscribers an upgrade to a bigger dish and a special LNB. 3.The LNB that accepts 118.7 and 119 is always a special LNB. Devin: Are you able to do a Blind scan of 118.7W using LNB type Universal or DP or Standard? Try each blind scan after removing all the TPs. Also try manually setting up a slate of all the 118.7 TPs described by Lyngsat and do scan all with different LNB type settings. It is a lot of hassle, but you seem to be a stubborn type. |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 584 Registered: Dec-07 | Everyone who is helping me here. Yes I deleted all the tps and blind scan the current sat(118.7) NDTV tp 11728 still not showing any life. Jeoturn As you asked me to scan the tp. Do you mean 11728. If you say yes. Then I must say Tp (11728)isn't available to scan.I don't see 11728 at all. Yes I do see 11728 on the bottom of the screen when I go to channel 574 and it show no signal I even changed 3/4 to 7/8 as nalin asked me to do. I'm not 100 % sure but it may be possible that LNB cb2008a isn't able to get that perticular tp. Only sv4k owner using cb2008a can answer that. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 14888 Registered: Jun-06 | Sonicview 4000 is showing NDTV Imagine. I don't have access to the receiver now to look at the details, but it has a Blind scan using LNB type as Universal 2. The LNB is a CB2008A or similar generic one. The two outputs of the LNB are the same, i.e. each output gets both 119 and 118.7 so you can feed two receivers. These two outputs go though two disQ switches where there are inputs from a two output 110W. There is no separate scan for 119 and 118.7 done as the one blind scan gets all 119 and 118.7 channels. If I get a chance, I will try and find out more details. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 14889 Registered: Jun-06 | Is ZGUJ and/or TV9 Gujarati channel available on these K boxes? |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 8873 Registered: Jan-08 | Devin When you do a blind scan(power scan) then a autoscan, you must select only this satellite, because if you scan all your satellites, you will lose this channels. So unhook all others LNBs Here is the setting for 118.8W: LNB Type: Universal LNB Freq: 11250 LNB High: 10750 LNB low: 10600 Try it and come back with the result. |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 585 Registered: Dec-07 | Nalin, According to your settings lnb type universal doesn't give me lnb freq 11250. LNB type (Universal) automatically brings freq 9750/10600 I can't change that to 11250.Anyway.. Secondly,Now I,m using disqC switch. And I have made change the dish settings PORT 3. Thirdly this time it scaned only 118 not 119. Interestingly, this it didn't even scan ndtv. It totally vanished. |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 586 Registered: Dec-07 | Nalin, another thing this time 11728 doesn't skip at dish setting screen.But ofcourse without signal. I will keep on doing work on this. Will let know if any thing change. |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 587 Registered: Dec-07 | I did blind scan now. It scaned all 119 and 118 channels including imagin. BUT I don't know what I'm doing wrong. channels from 119 including imagin (574)not showing any Q. Right now my setting are sat-anik E1,lnb power-on,LNB type-universal,LNB freq-9750/10600,Transponder Right now10788 (it is not skiping 11728)22khz-auto,Serch opt-all,Netwrk serch-ON,disqc-port3,mtr-disablelagacy switch-OFF Finally SAB and JUS are wide open for me. Again channel (574) showing (anik E1) 11728,20000,H7/8 and without any quality |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 589 Registered: Dec-07 | Nalin, Wanna tell you that I'm using only one output of the lnb. Like one coaxial wire from the one side of lnb to the one port of disqc switch and that attached to the rec ? is that Ok? |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 8875 Registered: Jan-08 | Devin Yes Nalin is right! You must use only one output for both satellites and doing 2 scan, one for 119: 9750/10600 and one for 119: 11250. |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 235 Registered: Apr-06 | joeturn I have a Invacom Universal Circular/Linear LNB, this LNB can't get all TPs on 118W, remember that 118W use a circular LNB who work on Linear frequency. I'm not new in scanning and get over 25 satellites with my motorized . \ This is what I expected you fell prey to the sales pitch as did a lot of others, for the SPECIAL LNB! Dish network does not require such an LNB it's subscribers gets all available to them on the same LNB ! If you'll notice its all packet oriented and telling your STB what you have hooked to it is all that is needed! All circular LNBs get the same as the linear thingy!! If not just select a different setting! I use an old LNB that came off a DTV dish before the LNBs changed to the so called circular design,which was nothing more than a discontinuance of the vertical polarity. My old LNB requires a V/H switch or the 18 volts will burn it out like what happened when they called it map 22. .Now you know the rest of the story! It was an intentional packet request that told the STB to supply 18 volts to the vertical port. Lots of LNBs went along with the capacitors in the STBs!! They dared not to addmit it as some of their subscribers LNBs went along with the rest of the pack which they replaced with the horrizontal only lnb they call circular $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 236 Registered: Apr-06 | Devin just go into transponder scan and do that particular transponder and set it tt 10750 vertical and it will show you a signal after you scan it!! Please report back with your results!! It believes what you tell it<I;-) |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 590 Registered: Dec-07 | plymouth, when I choose UNIVERSAL LNB type, I can't change LNB freq from 9750/10600 to 11250 All other LNB type will let me change that to 11250. By the way does it matter what sat name should be on the top right side when I scan 11250? |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 238 Registered: Apr-06 | Well I'm still trying to find out what sab and jus and ndtv is ? Go into transponder scan then select anik f3 then edit transponder now select 11723 H and change it to 11728 V because if its too full it wont allow you to add a new one! I dont put much faith in lyngesat as they cant keep you up to par legally!! Now that my curiousity is up give me a description of ndtv and I'll try and fetch it for you some place other than 11728 or lyngesat.... |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 239 Registered: Apr-06 | Devin keep those settings at standard 10750 |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 240 Registered: Apr-06 | Anik F 1 is at 107 degrees,Anik E1 is at 178 degrees that might create a problem .Try Anik F3 http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/satellite.html |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 591 Registered: Dec-07 | Joeturn.. I still remember when first time I listed 118.7 into my rec nalin told there is nothing in the name so long I scan correct tps. Thats what I did. Receiving jus and sab star1 star plus is the proof that it is anikf3 not anik E1. It is anik f3 I have. I just used anik E1 slate for anikf 3. |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 241 Registered: Apr-06 | If you look and see that all the setting are the same then there is no difference in what its called! However if there are some changes like msps from 15,554 on F1 and msps of 20,000 on F3 and if you have a stationary dish and your posisioner is not disabled then your up the creek!! What did you get when you went into F3 tp scan and changed TP 11723 H to TP 11728 and scanned?? This is not my first rodeo I caused DBS to go (spit)Circular!!! |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 8877 Registered: Jan-08 | joeturn My Invacom LNB can't get 10750 frequency on circular.  |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 8878 Registered: Jan-08 | Devin use standard for 119W |
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Silver Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 688 Registered: Feb-09 | "if you have a stationary dish and your posisioner is not disabled then your up the creek!!" That's Funny |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 8879 Registered: Jan-08 | Rico joeturn need to learn a little.  |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 14891 Registered: Jun-06 | Using a generic special LNB designed for reception of 118/119. These are available for about $20 from various sources. One brand is labeled CB2008A. There are a couple of other brands as well. One available from Transat Electronics of Toronto is also good. THINGS COMMON TO THESE GENERIC LNBs. They always require at least a 30', and preferably 33' dish. They usually have two outputs, one each for two receivers. Each output is good for 119W and for 118.7W. You can therefore have a cheap standard LNB for 110W and use its two outputs on two DisEqC switches for two receivers to get 110/118/119. You can also add two other sats, if you want to, on the remaining two Inputs of each of the two DisEqC switches. I saw an installation of two neighbours using one 33' Dish with the special LNB and three 20' dishes using standard LNBs for 110W, 61.5W and 91W. They pooled their old resources to come up with a four sat solution for both houses without using fancy switches. They use two (4 to 1) DisEqC switches. What is good for two neighbours for one TV in each of their living rooms, is also good for a family with a TV set in the bedroom and in the living room. SETTING UP THE RECEIVERS. You get BOTH 118 and 119 on one input of the DisEqC switch, so in your Antenna setup, you must use the same DisEqC number (usually Port 1 input) for the Anik F3 slate (118.7W) and for the Echo 7 (119W) slate. Method 1: The two slates are separate in this method. If you can't see a separate slate for Anik F3 in your pre-2008 receiver, use the Anik F2 slate OR ANY OTHER SPARE SLATE. For Echo 7 (119W) scan use LNB type: Standard LNB Freq. 11250 DisEqC switch Port 1 (usually) First TP in the TP list 12239(H) (or 12224(V) optional) and do a scan all To do a Blind scan you do not need anything in the TP list, but nice to put in one number there. For Anik F3 (118.7W) scan use LNB type: Standard LNB Freq. 10750 DisEqC switch Port 1 (same as used in 119W) First TP in the TP list 11715(V) and do a scan all To do a Blind scan you do not need anything in the TP list, but nice to put in one number there. Note that this method is more suitable for "Scan all". A blind scan may bring in Channels from the "other" Sat. Method 2: Use only one slate in this method. Use the Echo 7 (119W) slate. LNB type: Universal 2 LNB Freq. 9750-10750 (use whatever your receiver automatically brings up) DisEqC switch Port 1 (usually) First TP in the TP list 11715(V) and do a scan all, but make sure you do not have any other TPs in the list or ALL the TPs in the combined Anik F3/Echo 7 list as published in Lyngat. Usually you would do a Blind scan under this method (Universal2 LNB) and you do not need anything in the TP list, but nice to put in 11715(V) there. You may get as many as 64 TPs and some extraneous ones in there. You will also most likely get TP numbers that are different from the Lyngsat list. These numbers will be off by 150 or by 500 or by 650. Do not worry. Compare with the Lyngsat list and write down your own table of TP values. Other methods: You may try two separate 'scan all' using settings in method1 but both in the same slate. You may also use Universal1 and do a Blind scan '" you might get better results. Individual TP scans: They will usually work well under LNB type as 'Standard'. If you are using Universal 1 or Universal2 setting, the TP number might vary by 150, 500 or 650. To arrive at the real TP number for YOUR set up, look at the TPs where you are getting recognizable channels and after comparing with the Lyngsat list, you will be able to arrive at the subtraction/addition number for your setup. |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 244 Registered: Apr-06 | Can you amagine why on earth the disable function was put into the files!! Non motered STBs continuously send unwanted voltage through the coax to the your switches awaiting a reply from the moter that it has docked! If it does not reply the stb keeps resending!! Could this continuos action create an overheat 1.2/.1.3 circuit. I too bougtht that Inviacom junk and sent it back as it was not as good as my old primestar lnb. |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 245 Registered: Apr-06 | Thank you much nalin I see lyngesat has came a long way since 2000. They use to post imformation that would not help a non subscriber! However you still have to sift through the technobabble. |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 8883 Registered: Jan-08 | joeturn Invacom LNB is not a junk as you say but one of best LNB on market, with a motor I can get over 25 satellites with one LNB and one dish, When you are down, I can get many local and International channels. I agre that Invacom will made this LNB with 10750 circular available in futur. |
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New member Username: Lk_livesPost: 100Mil... Post Number: 1 Registered: Apr-09 | plymouth you are such a whining loser |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 246 Registered: Apr-06 | Plymouth old school was the channels were seperated by polarity Vertical showed the odd numbered channels and horizontal showed the even numbered channels! There was too much fade in signal as probagation reversed the polarity so you were recieving a poor signal at those times! The push for the transponders to transmit both polarities for each channel was in the air! The LINEAR(vertical) LNBs were replaced by Horizontal(circular)LNBs Now since there is no more need for a vertical/linear lnb,what you have is an "amplified" piece of junk!! Just get one regular dishnet LNB for your moterized set up and you will be amazed at the improvement! You may not even have to change the settings on the new files. Just your lat/lon... All them dip switches and port settings are useless imformation unless they are packet oriented!! That $125.00 LNB is too hard for you to swallow! All these sites guide you down a road of their choice so they can seperate a fool from his money! |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 595 Registered: Dec-07 | Plymouth ,nalin, Finally I got imagine(574). I did change lnb type to single instead of universal and 10750 and tp 11728. Now I do see quality on sab and jus. But screen says no signal. Any clue? |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 596 Registered: Dec-07 | Changing lnbtype back to universal brings back sab and jus and take away imagine. Please let me know if there any way I can correct that. I know I'm bothering you guys since yesterday but I'm sure you guys can help me fix this. |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 8884 Registered: Jan-08 | joeturn Do some reseach on web and back when you will learn on signal. |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 8885 Registered: Jan-08 | Devin Keep your LNB on Universal, check if you are able to put polarization and Fec on auto as for Viewsat and do a autoscan. You can put the auto Tp to OFF. You can ask as much question that you want. |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaCalif U.S.A Post Number: 597 Registered: Dec-07 | No Plymouth, I tried, they are not helping. Plymouth, you please don't worry. If I wanna watch imagine I will go to dish settings and will make those changes to watch 574. Plymouth, who knows 574 may go dark tonight. Plymouth, I'm really greatful for the help. I thank you and nalin. |
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Silver Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 247 Registered: Apr-06 | Plymouth This is all I could find on signal via the internet! http://ecoustics.nextag.com/Plymouth-Revere-r-Whistling-66289711/ecoustics01/pri ces-html |
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