NOTE: The information contained in any of my posts relating to DSS satellite reception is information that I have gathered from publicly known sources under the same protections of Free Speech governed under the Laws of the United States and Canada and is for informational use only. As my Constitutional Right under United States and Canadian Laws the redistribution of said information is considered a form of free speech. Using this information in the United States or Canada to defraud American or Canadian commercial satellite providers of revenue by unlawfully decrypting encrypted TV signals has been declared against the law in those countries, and as such I do not advocate the illegal use of such information under both the United States and Canadian Laws. All references and examples of personal experiences are hypothetical in nature.
I was wondering could the satellite providers also sue the people here that teach the Newbies how to steal their Signals. Just think if the satellite providers sue each member $1.00 for each one of their post.
Doreen, Just curious, does akadj stand for Also Known As Doreen J ? Or is Doreenakadj an Indian Name? BTW, so happy that KT, Cartier1 and the rest of them are a**- out of here.
Doreen aka "DJ" means Doreen Jane... My real life friends call me DJ ...I use to have another nick here "DJ" I just use AKA so members here knew it was me... thats the meaning of Doreen AKA DJ
I am not Indian, I'm Dutch/German decent.
Btw...I wasn't aware that King Tapeman , Cartier1 and others are gone from here never noticed.
Webb argues that the evidence was insufficient to support the district court's finding that he pirated DTV's signals in violation of these statutes. He points first to the lack of direct evidence that he intercepted DTV's signal and second to his own testimony denying such a violation. Even under the clear error standard that applies to findings of fact, he contends, a finding that he intercepted signals cannot be sustained. We disagree
The law does not require direct evidence to support a factual finding. Circumstantial evidence may be sufficiently persuasive. Signal piracy is by its nature a surreptitious ven- ture and direct evidence of actual interception may under- standably be hard to come by. See Walker v. Darby, 911 F.2d 1573, 1578 (11th Cir. 1990) ("Direct evidence may not have been available based on the stealthiness of the invasion.") (internal quotation and citation omitted). For this reason, courts have correctly concluded that direct evidence of signal piracy is not required to prove unlawful interception. See, e.g., DIRECTV, Inc. v. Robson, 420 F.3d 532, 537 (5th Cir. 2005) ("Circumstantial evidence can support a finding that a com- munication was intercepted, even absent direct evidence."); Walker, 911 F.2d at 1578.
Evidence that a person possessed a pirate access device, by itself, may not be enough to infer actual interception of a signal. See DirecTV, Inc. v. Treworgy, 373 F.3d 1124, 1129 (11th Cir. 2004) (finding no "private right of action against a person who possesses a device" in violation of the Wiretap Act); Robson, 420 F.3d at 540-42 & nn.36-37 (collecting cases). These devices may assist in the unauthorized intercep- tion of signal, but they are not capable of interception by themselves.
In this case, however, the evidence demonstrated that Webb had more than a pirate access device. He possessed everything else he needed to intercept DTV's signals.
tooter... your post is more about using hardware (rewriting cards)rather than using the HELPERS information provided HERE.
If it's against the law to SURF THE INTERNET reading forums then perhaps we are guilty and should be sued.
Reading or being a forum member does not make you guilty. Anyone can provide information over the INTERNET. Doesn't mean they are providing the correct info. And even if they are they still can not sue you for posting in a forum. If that were the case the forum owner and many many other sites are guilty as well.
In this forum we do not provide bins... There for we are not Helping others to pirate signals. We just explain the procedures to educate other forum members .
Just because I know how to use a gun doesn't mean I am guilty of murder.
Posts in forums giving advice on "How To" or posting of files, has been used by prosecutors in court actions as "secondary" evidence, when used in combination with "Primary" evidence such as shipping lists, possession of modified or illegal hardware etc.. but secondary evidence on its own, cannot bring about civil or criminal actions..
Doreen, Doreen NO... They have to prove that the newbies are infact using the info provided by the "helpers"
OK, Is it fair to say that when a Newbie returns and thanks the helper for helping him to set up his receiver and he is now watching Echo 3 or 7, 10/11 or Anik F3 Dish network satellites would that be proof enough????
Also if they hit on this Newbie you know he will sing like a Canary.
Like the man said, Moles have always been around on DSS Forums, you don't know who they are they all look alike
oh and also... members should keep open their PM box so newbie members could be able to privately ask for "advice"
I think its stupid to post "help" in the main threads. C/P messages are OK from other sites and members there. Implicate someone else LOL
I really don't know what is best .. this is just my own point of views. If I am wrong PLEASE BE ADVISED TO USE ANY/ALL INFORMATION I MAY PROVIDE AT YOUR OWN RISK... I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ACTIONS HELD AGAIN YOU IN A COURT OF LAW!
I also have receivers that are able to pick up "true FTA" signals...
The question is now... Why, if TRUE FTA signals are FREE, are you giving out information to alter them to be able to receive Dishnet's FULL PACKAGE that they offer to PAYING customers? That's what you and others here are doing in the majority of your "HELP POSTS".
They have gone after members that "help" by shutting down entire sites and have gotten VIP "paying members" IP addresses and have charged them. Two of my nieghbours got caught that way for pirating BELL. Plus one of my dealers got arrested and charged for selling/distributing bin files and how to information on his stores web site.
Why are you constantly accusing me of discrediting Ecoustics . Facts are Facts... Why do you want members to think we are all above the law? Unless you are waiting for the chance to rat us all out.
A Viewsat distributor was charge not because he sell receiver but this idiot sell receiver with bin inside and do it with 2 Policeman.
Sell receiver and provide bin is a little crazy. You must never buy a receiver or equipment on Ebay or with your credit card or give your name on bill.
Anyway buy a true Fta motorized dish with it you will never cry for the file.
Now with numeric signal from local Tv, we don't need Dish Bev and other robber which ask money for channels we can get for FREE
if dish and dave dont want people stealing their signals, get the signals out of their back yards! Did anyone ask permission to have these signals running through their properties??
Dantetn.. they already took analogue signals out of our back yards... Maybe they will try to deter us from receiving digital too. Who knows, but ontill then take what you can get.
Many poeple use cable or satellite because the picture is crap on analogic TV but with digital now and HD that is much much better than cable and satellite signal which insert coding in signal and compressing is max.
Many new Free to Air channels are add with the new satellites launch every month.
For me the time where i paid for free TV is end.
In USA Local TV are paid by dish or DTV but here in Canada Local TV don't have any money for it.
The only way is for the f-ing providers to SECURE THEIR SIGNAL!!!!!! See, that is why PowerVu, NDS, and DC2, Irdeto, etc etc have never been hacked. Pour money into securing the signal, not suing the people.BTW, I like SC and I PAY for it, dammitt!!!!. If you like something, PAY for it. Cheap price to pay for a lot of entertainement.
Doreen Jane... My real life friends call me DJ ...I use to have another nick here "DJ" I just use AKA so members here knew it was me... thats the meaning of Doreen AKA DJ 
