Nagra 3 NOT Hacked by Nfusion..was just a subbed card
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Silver Member Username: JustforhahasPost Number: 464 Registered: Jul-08 | This was just a simple work around using a Bev subbed card...but it was good news...other IKS receivers will be doing the same.. C&P from Paramount 10/5/08 This is worth a front page mention, and it is good news for the entire satellite community for the years to come. Nfusion has released a work around for the Nagravision 3 encryption system in use by Bev for NFL Sunday Ticket. As of right now, Nfusion users can view NFL Sunday Ticket while plugged into the internet with their Nfusion. Expect Neosat, Captain, Skyview and other IKS receivers to have similar work arounds available in the near future. I am told this was accomplished by Nfusion using a subscribed Bev Smart card in one of their servers, which than lends the encryption code to any Nfusion connected to that server. Let me stress, this is not a hack,} this is a very simple work around, which I believe will have bev on it's toes scrambling to patch without any decent recourse for the next few days. In essence, they will have to find out which exact Nagra 3 smart card is being used in order to patch this hole in their system. They will need the exact number of that card. Whether that is obtainable through connection to the Nfusion server, by Bev, is unknown at this time. If it is, do not expect this to last very long. If they are unable to find out the smart card number, they will have to determine, which of the thousands deployed right now it is, and specifically shut down that card through the stream. This is good news. As most of us know, Nagravision 2 was not fully hacked until the final days of the scaling back of Nagravision 1. First we saw carded hacks for the weak Rom101, than emulation hacks for DVB cards and hours after, hacks for all makes of FTA Receivers. I will stress again, this is not a hack, but a step in the right direction, which can better help the coders understand the workings of Nagravision 3. We will not need a real hack anytime soon, so to see this so early is promising. It will be interesting to watch how long it takes Bev to close this loophole, if they can at all, permanently. It will be much harder for Dish Network to close a loophole like this when they have to pick the card out of the 14 million Nagra 3 cards they will have in deployment by the time they have finished their swapout. Even if they can find the card, they will never be able to permanently patch it if that was their only recourse, as Nfusion will just switch cards, starting the process over again. Dish Network will need to lobby hard to have receivers with Ethernet ports made illegal to import. Even at that, they will not be able to stop dealers from selling Ethernet ports separately from FTA Receivers, as there is nothing illegal about an Ethernet port with a USB adapter. The game only gets more interesting as time goes on! |
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Silver Member Username: JjgeePalatine, IL USA Post Number: 182 Registered: Apr-08 | nfusion has never hacked anything. They have never had a stand alone bin for their stb and they do not have one now. All they have EVER done is card share over the internet. This is what they are doing now with the ST. The only time their nova's worked with EMU = ON was when dik was wide open to everyone a few months back. They HAVE NOT hacked nag 3. Their coders only write bins that turn on and put new features in the stb's, not decode anything. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 12144 Registered: Jun-06 | Two DN spies and egomaniacs supporting each other - or is it the same person with two Nicks? Why a new thread - what was wrong with Sada's thread? |
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Silver Member Username: JjgeePalatine, IL USA Post Number: 183 Registered: Apr-08 | Who ask you? Why do you call me a spy? You know I am your employer. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 12146 Registered: Jun-06 | Information DN spay jigee. http://www.satscams*com/forum/showthread.php?t=23307 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/78B/A7B http://www.ci.st-augustine.fl.us/departments/Police_Department/departments.shtml Rick Lawson 2640 Highland Park Rd Deland, FL 32720 US Daytime Phone: 3867362601 |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3622 Registered: Oct-06 | He's not a spy I haven't seen any indications that he knows any inside info There is no N*3 in the stream yet That's a pre-calculated move by Nag*ra What's out there is N*2.4 To my best estimate If coders to hack N*3 it will take them at least 25 weeks to a year Key's can be posted from time to time But won't be an auto roll for months to follow New improved N*3 will not roll over until all card swap complete by both providers DON'T GET EASILY DUPED |
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Silver Member Username: JustforhahasPost Number: 466 Registered: Jul-08 | Excuse me but Nagra 3 encryption can be used on any specific channels at any given time, just like Bev PID 0907 and DN 0106 keys..Nagra 3 is being used on the NFL Ticket each week by Bev, and is definitely in the stream then..but its NOT HACKED yet.. If you were around during the DTV days and the nagra 1 to nagra 2 swap, you would know that weekly over a 1 month period, various tiers (PPV's, premiums, core, locals) were slowly swapped over from N1 to N2, and same with DTV and their last swap to their newer encryption..until after that 1 month, ALL channels were broadcast with their new encryptions, and the old encryptions were dead, leavng BOTH plastic and FTA users completely down. Nagra 3 will be FULLY implemented on ALL tiers, once Bev finalizes and and completes their swap to ALL their subscribers, who will be given a written letter and TV message stating that specific date..which will be posted everywhere too..Bev will NOT be waiting for Dishnet for anything, to fully implement their nagra 3 encryption to ALL their subscribers and ALL their channels.. |
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Silver Member Username: DimwittPost Number: 927 Registered: Aug-06 | Information--NYDAS http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=405119 030 |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3623 Registered: Oct-06 | I just hope yo'll be around for post game analysis "Bev will NOT be waiting for Dishnet for anything" I politely disagree They already have waited since Feb, 2008 It's clear they waited until release of HD#Turbo But will be slightly ahead of D#N by few days What's in the stream is not even close to N*3 I do think what's used for the NFL ticket is N*2.4 or from time to time the beta version of N*3 There is a great possibility the full N*3 is still under construction or had some previous bugs To me the real N*3 is an entirely improved version over the Eurpean N*3 I draw this conclusion based on their way of playing There is a way of keep tracking that The current software should have a Pneumonic version value Let's keep track of it That by itself provide many clues  I do agree with yo however the switch will be transitional package by package until full switch roll over |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 4502 Registered: Jan-08 | King N3 is active HD Turbo 1080p is on since August 1 2008. Read a little on web. MAXHD can read TurboHD, like you can use Blue ray software on computer. Why give those bad info and make people laught, with your comment Dont be worry |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3625 Registered: Oct-06 | "N3 is active HD Turbo 1080p is on since August 1 2008. Read a little on web." I'm sorry I don't rely on people who got no clue for immediate source of misinformation The web is full of clowns more than real tech people Yo wait a little And yo'll learn a lot The final draft of N*3 is not out yet 1080p was never broadcasted yet Come back and say that one more time in few days Just be there at the post game analysis I'll bet yo as much as yo want |
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Silver Member Username: PicanhaEast LA Post Number: 112 Registered: Jun-08 | King!! King!!  |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3627 Registered: Oct-06 | I am taking it very easy on someone asking me to read a little on the web All kinds of clueless dealers selling whatever hardware they think will work and it's far from what's going on This is absolutely the worst time to buy an HD receiver or HD accessory They ain't 1080p LIKE I SAID IS LIKE BUYING CHRISTMAS TREES IN JANUARY There is no 1080p Modules I don't care if they get HD*Turbo or not They ain't 1080p decoder Modules And don't even think about showing me bogus false claim specs I don't even doubt D#N selling bogus modules to make few bucks  |
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Bronze Member Username: Little_bearSudbury, Ontario Canada Post Number: 87 Registered: Mar-08 | plymouth the king don't lie after all he showed everyone here how to make free phone calls. |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 4506 Registered: Jan-08 | King Check on Dish Network 1080p is avalaible since August 1-30 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Congratulations! All DISH Network HD customers have been Turbo-charged! In the early morning hours of 8/1 DISH Network reinvented high definition! Current HD customers had the next generation of HD downloaded right to their receivers! Turbo-charged HD features state-of-the-art technology with the highest quality HD available including 1080p Video On Demand-- same as Blu-Ray® Disc quality! Plus over 100 National HD channels with up to 150 by end of year! As a valued customer we hope you enjoy your Turbo-charged system and the best in HD from DISH Network. In celebration of our new Turbo-charged HD, DISH Network will be offering a 1080p HD movie at a reduced price during the month of August! Watch I Am Legend on DISH On Demand for only $2.99 August 1-30! Login here or call 1-888-411-2641 ------------------------------------------------------------- And the link: http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/offers/current_customer/turbo_charged/index.s html """"The final draft of N*3 is not out yet """ I never say that they revealed all their cards, but N3 is active. I repeat Turbo Hd is only a method of video compression and Viewsat made a receiver like a computer where you can replaced the video card. King i am sorry but you needed to learn this time Thanks |
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Silver Member Username: LolPost Number: 869 Registered: Sep-06 | lol |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 4509 Registered: Jan-08 | Lol X 1000 |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 4513 Registered: Jan-08 | King Here is an example of Video card who can display true 1080p, the proof that it is easy for a receiver provider to integrated the thechnology on receiver Diamond Radeon HD 3850 Video Card The ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series of GPUs allow you to experience the power of HD with graphics processing designed for how you work and play The Diamond Radeon HD 3850 delivers outstanding performance at a great price. Advance to the next generation of HD game performance and life-like realism thanks to DirectX® 10.1 capabilities and plug-and-play ATI CrossFireX multi-GPU upgradeability. Watch the latest Blu-ray and HD-DVD videos in full 1080p HD -- and upscale beyond - without placing huge demands on your CPU. Enjoy break-through efficiency with more processing performance per watt and energy-saving features to help save you money. Blu-Ray is only a compression method like HD-DVD |
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Silver Member Username: JustforhahasPost Number: 473 Registered: Jul-08 | Nfusion is using subs to accomplish what was done with NFL Sunday. Not that I am undermining the fact that they did get pic on SOME of the NFL Ticket channels. I just want users to be informed of what this is. 1. N3 is not broken and hacked. 2. This was done with subs only, thats the reason for only FEW of the NFL Ticket channels. 3. Full cardless will not come out on nfusion for N3, because it is not hacked, just card sharing. Before the hype gets out of hand about hacked N3, Only card sharing was used, N3 was not hacked. |
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Bronze Member Username: Ez2ctvPlatinum Mem... Post Number: 97 Registered: Dec-07 | Username: Justforhahas Full Name: justforhaha's Last Logged In: October 07, 2008 Registered: July 15, 2008 Total Posts: 474 Status: Silver Member "Nfusion is using subs to accomplish what was done with NFL Sunday. Not that I am undermining the fact that they did get pic on SOME of the NFL Ticket channels. I just want users to be informed of what this is. 1. N3 is not broken and hacked. 2. This was done with subs only, thats the reason for only FEW of the NFL Ticket channels. 3. Full cardless will not come out on nfusion for N3, because it is not hacked, just card sharing. Before the hype gets out of hand about hacked N3, Only card sharing was used, N3 was not hacked" Agreed 100% But what this means to the test community is that there are alternatives and this will put pressure on the "Providers" to try and stop another method of watching their programming. They will have to spend more money or reduce time spent in other areas of protection. This also ups the ante for other Sat Box, hackers, coders to step up to the plate and release something or at least get them more serious in hacking / cracking N3. If one looks to past history in this hobby, individuals and groups have big egos and once the cat pokes it head out of the bag the others rush to the front to claim victory. Now as far as NFusion, the Twins and MatchStick having the holly grail of a fully cracked card, Let them release a stand alone fix for both the SD & HD NFusion Boxes and then I will bow to them for being the first. It will start to get interesting to see if the Providers can stop IKS in it's tracks, Then the proponents that claim IKS is the future of FTA will have to eat Sh*it. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3643 Registered: Oct-06 | Plymouth Yor truly one unique ignorant Did yo actually read yor own post? That's 1080p blu-ray on-demand download It doesn't mention anything about HD 1080p broadcast HD*Turbo at present time is in 1080i There were other newbies asking me better questions I thought yo might be a little better technical person I was wrong on yor technical background Turbo*charged is a gimmick It could mean anything I'm very familiar with legal gimmicks like this cuz I worked with electronics specs for 27 years There is no 1080p HD premium channels broadcast There is no 1080p hack modules VS didn't make 1080p sh!t And that's final I don't want to hear this again I did say there will be 1080p HD if D#N feel required But they will have to pay hefty royalty to Sony I don't know if they will ever go for it That's their decision Right now 1080p is integrated in their new receivers and only new receivers If they feel required they'll do the broadcast switch Right now they are offering it to on-demand Make sure yo get that straight |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 4515 Registered: Jan-08 | King Just to compare i work in electronics since over 32 years and hobby since 37 years Does not take me for an idiot. Here is the proof, but you don't want understand: http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/offers/current_customer/turbo_charged/index.s html My post are not based on forecasts or Blackjack, but the facts. Post your proof like i do. thanks |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3644 Registered: Oct-06 | What proof are yo talking about? This is the same post yo got Look No disrespect I know yor english is not great I'm not gonna pick on it Yo need to learn to be polite when yo disagree There is no 1080p HD broadcast at present time Read my lips NO 1080p BROADCAST YET Yo wanna believe me that's fine Yo don't believe me ask someone else And I strongly suggest next time yo wanna ask me something technical learn how to ask it nicely Cuz yor so fu*cking rude and stubborn Why don't yo call that tool free number in yor link and square it once for all I'm 100% sure there is no 1080p broadcast yet I do think there will be someday maybe soon And D#N will be first to carry it But this is not it And if yo think hackers will get to it that fast then think again And that's enough for me on this subject I'm not interested to know what hackers come up with cuz there is no 1080p Modules At least not yet I do want to clear something else for the record D#N can do 1080p broadcast but can't call it blu-ray In that case they don't pay royalty to Sony Only royalty to MPEG group which is much cheaper Blu-ray does provide 3 level encryption So they can keep Nagra plus 2 other levels if they ever feel they need it This is another cleaver legal gimmick by dikky Buy using blu-ray name for on-demand only among their HD*Turbo promotion |
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Bronze Member Username: Nbn16Post Number: 17 Registered: Jan-08 | Lol you 2.. I like to call dum & dumber ? Between you two you claim 60 years experience but your know jack sheet. I did 3 hrs of reading and know more than ply mouth and king tapefag put together. See brown people are just dumb as pigeons, wasn't it Darwin who said philpinos and paki as scum are just not as smart as the rest of the world. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3645 Registered: Oct-06 | "I did 3 hrs of reading and know more than ply mouth and king tapefag put together." 3 hours of reading I'm fu*cking impressed And what have yo accomplished in 3 hours of reading? Nothing I bet yo dunno sh!t about anything My years of experience is to be familiar with legal gimmicks Do yo read englic MOFO I bet yo don't comprehend englic MOFO either Yor a faceless coward hiding behind nick names  |
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Silver Member Username: King_of_satsPost Number: 436 Registered: Jan-08 | Once a Retard always a RETARD KING U LOSE AGAIN !!! NOW EVEN NOOOBS kicking your push broom azz   |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3646 Registered: Oct-06 | Noobs Huh  What...Yo think I was born yesterday Jimmy? There is only one noob here, his name is J.M. I'm highly disappointed in yo Jimmy Yo still can't comprehend what D#N using And yo do speak good englic and got a real job That's a shame Maybe yo need to read 300 more hours Well my forum friend It is 1080i HD broadcast at this time Call Dikky and ask for yorself |
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Silver Member Username: King_of_satsPost Number: 437 Registered: Jan-08 | Sorry it's not in make shift nigerian wanna be english ... But maybe you can still force upon yourself a little comprehenion ugh !!! it's DOUBTFUL seeing u some kind of over grown aborted embryo  http://bitstream.soundandvisionmag.com/blog/2008/09/dish-ups-the-hd.html |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3647 Registered: Oct-06 | I'm laughing my Azz Cuz I'm not from Nigeria and I'm not black But I'm laughing my Azz to see yo pissing in the wind I coach pro sports And I travel all over I never told anyone one my real race Please don't post specs  I know what the specs say I'm cleary saying As of this date there is no HD 1080p premium or basic broadcast Only on-demand in 1080p blu-ray Read the specs 100 times And yo just made an Azz out of yorself But yor learning That's progress I just love to kick yor Azz Jimmy in public any day of the week |
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Silver Member Username: King_of_satsPost Number: 438 Registered: Jan-08 | You are Nigerian I proved it before from your on confession in a post... PRO sports that's FUNNY cuz also I slammed you with your very own posted where u was whining becuase u was fired You forget not everyone on this site some old out of work fossil like yourself who has seen his better days well over a decade ago when the word analog roamed the earth and kinda meant something.... Your a old ugly azz Nigreian flavor Big Purple Barney mofo |
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