Explanation On Signal & Quality
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Silver Member Username: JustforhahasPost Number: 424 Registered: Jul-08 | Explanation On Signal & Quality Signal & Quality Depending on the Receiver in use: The signal level is not really a satellite signal, it is a feedback signal measuring the current to the LNB, this signal does not go up and down when you point the dish at a satellite, any satellite, or if you point the dish at a tree, ground or building, the signal level is good only if the LNB and cabling has good continuity between the Receiver and the LNB. Modified (Tech07) Quality IS an actual digital satellite signal level, it comes from the ONE transponder you have selected in the menu, and again it does not mean you are on the correct satellite, just that the transponder frequency you have chosen has been found and it does have MPEG2 digital packets on it. Most FTAs now have a popup banner that will come up telling you what satellite you are on, this popup banner is from information contained in the digital packets, so no Quality = no banner will come up. So once you have a high S or L signal, but still no Quality, you may be on the wrong sat, or the transponder freqency your on is not active. There are up to 32 transponders on each sat, each has its different channels so you need all you can get to get all the channels, 12224 v is a popular TP1 on many DN sats. TP 12224 is also a spotbeam on echo 7 (119), that means that TP 12224 shows no signal for most of us. For setting a dish on echo 7 use TP 12239. |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 4345 Registered: Jan-08 |  |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3598 Registered: Oct-06 | In much simpler terminology S= LNB power (LNB voltage connection to receiver) Q= Amplified level on a TP freq Low Q means low amplified level, bad reception High Q is good signal level, good reception |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 12119 Registered: Jun-06 | Christon is a seasoned poster at ftatalk.com. See this URL post dated the 4th October 2007 [link removed] Signal & Quality Depending on the Receiver in use: The signal level is not really a satellite signal, it is a feedback signal measuring the current to the LNB, this signal does not go up and down when you point the dish at a satellite, any satellite, or if you point the dish at a tree, ground or building, the signal level is good only if the LNB and cabling has good continuity between the Receiver and the LNB. Modified (Tech07) Quality IS an actual digital satellite signal level, it comes from the ONE transponder you have selected in the menu, and again it does not mean you are on the correct satellite, just that the transponder frequency you have chosen has been found and it does have MPEG2 digital packets on it. Most FTAs now have a popup banner that will come up telling you what satellite you are on, this popup banner is from information contained in the digital packets, so no Quality = no banner will come up. So once you have a high S or L signal, but still no Quality, you may be on the wrong sat, or the transponder freqency your on is not active. There are up to 32 transponders on each sat, each has its different channels so you need all you can get to get all the channels, 12224 v is a popular TP1 on many DN sats. |
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Silver Member Username: JjgeePalatine, IL USA Post Number: 177 Registered: Apr-08 | Repeat post, good one nalin. Your reports are late again. Something going on in the mother land? |
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Silver Member Username: BernardmiPost Number: 210 Registered: Dec-07 | Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Signal is any given transponder's signal to noise ratio. The higher the better. Does not mean that you can see something on the screen. It only says that a signal is present and is loud or weak. Quality is inverse of error rate. Of course, the higher the signal the smallest is the error rate in decoding the digital stream. But !!!! On a transponder, you could have a small signal level and yet high quality. Specially if you have a high end LNB with low noise figure. The signal might be weak but free of noise and thus of high quality. And by the way, signal and quality is measured on each transponder individualy. That is if a satellite has 6342 transponders, you will get 6342 different readings ! Signal and Quality are displayed on the screen by the unit's microprocessor solely by reading the digital decoder integrated IC information. This chip gives the info. Has nothing to do with measuring the LNB current !!!!! |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 4427 Registered: Jan-08 | The Outer Limits You are totally right Example : on Viewsat,if you create a new satellite and any Tp freq is assigned the signal is totaly down, after a blind scan on a satellite, you return sat menu and the signal is up because a Tp is there. For the quality with my motor, i can get a low signal with high quality, and misaligment of the dish on strong satellite can give strong signal and bad quality. A good exemple is if a three is btw dish and satellite the signal will be strong and quality poor. Good post Bernardmi  |
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Silver Member Username: LomnaPost Number: 338 Registered: Dec-07 | justforhaha's I wanted to know this for a long time,never got satisfied with answers. First of all ONE tp has just one channels or many??? I'm in the u.s.a getting signal from (82)even tps only I,m using 18" dish.Not all international are only even tps. For example ATN 702.But Since yesterday it looks like bev moved it to even tp. which is good for me. There is no guarantee that it will remains on tp #2. My question is what can I do get signal from all other tps as well or some thing else I can do ??? |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 4428 Registered: Jan-08 | Devin read my post on it https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/519073.html https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/519112.html |
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Silver Member Username: BernardmiPost Number: 211 Registered: Dec-07 | Plymouth I have a 4 feet antenna on Hispasat. Good but marginal. I have most TP's at low signal (most display 55, some display 30). On some channels, I have 18 to 20 Signal but 55 to 60 quality !!! In my case, it is the large size of antenna that does the job of pulling the signals in. However very weak they are, they are solid in quality !  |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthCanada Post Number: 4430 Registered: Jan-08 | The Outer Limits Exactly Bigger is the dish better the Quality is, because it get less interference from other satellite. The small dish get the satellite signal with 0.5 degree width and more for special lnb 118.7/119, 6' dish can have only 0.1 degree width, this is why the Quality is better. Where are you located for get Hispasat with a 4 feet? In Ku or C-Band? I'm not able to get it. |
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Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 12121 Registered: Jun-06 | Jjgee: I did the C/P to show people like you that Justforhaha's post was a C/P from a year old post. Please do not bring my mother and relatives, ethnic origin, religion into posts when you want to post a response to me or to anybody. |
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Silver Member Username: PicanhaEast LA Post Number: 104 Registered: Jun-08 | So What Nalin.......A C/P can contain useful information.....Go suck on some Monkey Balls |
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