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Silver Member Post Number: 312 Registered: Jul-08 | C&P from Wilmero (9/13/08) Ok, Since we all know N3 is coming and people will be asking the same questions over and over without reading older threads with the same title, I will answer a few of your "yet to be asked" questions here: Q- When is Nagra3 going to be here? A- N3 will be here very soon before the end of the year. Sooner for Bev, and about 6 months after for Chuck. Q- Will my current FTA receiver be able to handle it? A- If N3 is hacked successfully, your FTA receiver will be able to handle it. It was said back in the N1-N2 days that the Pansat 2500 wouldn't be able to handle N2 but we all know that now to not be the case at all. Q- Is N3 hacked and will they be able to hack it? A- At this time we don't know for sure but strangely enough, the coders don't seem to be worried about it at all so that should tell you something. Anything is hackable, remember money can make anything happen! The hardest part will be glitching into the new cards. Q- I see alot of channels moving to Mpeg4 and the providers plan to move everything to Mpeg4 soon, will I need an HD receiver to view the channels? A- NO, Mpeg4 is just a compression method, it does not mean it is HD. While HD programming is mostly Mpeg4 at the moment, that does not mean it has to be, in fact they also broadcast HD in Mpeg2. Q- Will I need a new receiver when Mpeg4 is the main stream? A- Yes, unless you have a HD FTA receiver, those already receive Mpeg4. Q- How soon will everything turn Mpeg4? A- Not for quite awhile, as it would require the providers to swap out a great majority of their sub receivers first that are only Mpeg2 capable. Q- If I live in the U.S. will my receiver stop working once everything turns digital? A- No, your FTA receiver (and any other television viewing receiver) is already digital. Q- Will we be down for awhile once N3 hits? A- Possibly Yes, the coders likely will not release any fix until the providers have completely switched over so get a backup ready whether it be recorded movies or a minimum subscription. Only time will tell. Q- How will we know when N3 is upon us? A- You will know when some of your premium channels start dropping off and a rescan will not bring them back for viewing. Usually the providers start with International and Po*rn as those have the least subscribers incase anything goes wrong. Q- Is Dave hacked? A- Many trusted and extremely credible sources say that Dave is hacked, but due to the wrath of Dave and the consequences of messing with his patented signal, it is underground and the smart ones who are staying quiet are enjoying Dave. Not very many though. That is why Dave releases new cards, not because he wants to change the logo, but because there is a weakness. Remember, changing cards costs money! Q- Why can't we get NFL Sunday Ticket? A- Because NFL ST is being broadcast using N3 encryption. Q- I was thinking about upgrading my receiver but now I'm not so sure with N3 right around the corner, what should I do? A- We always recommend an upgrade whenever possible however, make sure you upgrade with a brand that is reliable in their support, that will ensure that once N3 is hacked, you will be one of the first on your block to have TV again! There will indeed be price gouging on FTA receivers for the first ones to come out with the N3 fix. You can bet on that! Stay ahead of the game people. |
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Silver Member Post Number: 680 Registered: Dec-07 | Very good Info. haha This should stop all the gussing and the smart asswhores  |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3501 Registered: Oct-06 | Boss I really don't know if yor the real boss or not I think yo are Yor thread is all the sudden echoes what I have been saying all along I do give yo credit for finally giving us yor prospective But yo do need few corrections Please don't take it the wrong way I do welcome open clean discussions "I see alot of channels moving to Mpeg4" Yo gave two contradictory answers regarding that question MPEG4 is not just an encoding scheme These standard FTA receivers are MPEG2 Simply read the spec MPEG2 receivers can not and will not decode MPEG4 I don't know if it's simply an error when yo composed these questioners but if someone else telling yo, yo can get MPEG4 with MPEG2 just simply King says NO Yo can count on my straight forward answer is NO Yo may not understand this part But please read careful and refer back as many times as yo want As far as using an HD FTA receiver, it's a maybe Cuz these are MPEG4 and MPEG2 However don't under estimate Dikky He may have included 1080p as well as 1080i on one module If he did I'll say no chance anytime soon to hack in 1080p Possibly a year to two years All he has to do is pay royalty to Sony and lease 1080p to shut down PTA for good I know he did 1080p for On-demand channels I always suspected other broadcast when he first indroduced it Question is will he afford to do it on all programs or just specific programs Or is he fighting to have 1080p to broadcast all channels I don't have the real answers to these But if I were to bet I would bet that D#N will be untouchable for few years Maybe enough to get PTA off his back I really do trust yo and respect yor sources Yo do impress me with certain FTA knowledge But the reality is 1080p is a whole new game That I never thought Dikky would dare to do Keep in mind 1080p was designed against piracy for multimedia products Also tell us more how yo flashed that CW-600s |
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Platinum Member Post Number: 11699 Registered: Jun-06 | King: You wrote - "I do give yo credit for finally giving us yor prospective Please note that all credit should go to "Wilmero" - not to this newbie "justforhaha's" |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3503 Registered: Oct-06 | Whoever gets the credit Someone mixed up hardware facts It doesn't matter to me I don't know who is JustforHahaha either One thing I understand PTA will face trouble And I started to like PTA And please White Hawk Stay out of adult discussions There is no room for 13 year old egyptian Juveniles at this forum Go to mummy's tomb and play hide and seek This is not the place for yo kid |
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Silver Member Post Number: 686 Registered: Dec-07 | Also Credit to the man that took the time to find it and posted. Now Asswhore do you have a problem because the newbie found it and you couldn't.  |
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Platinum Member Post Number: 11702 Registered: Jun-06 | Black Hawk - the child. This is an adult discussion. Learn to use Google and you may learn that it is not difficult to find stuff on the IOnternet. |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3505 Registered: Oct-06 | White Hawk Get off this thread This an adult discussion What part of that yo don't understand? No one wants childish kids here |
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Gold Member Quebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 4025 Registered: Jan-08 | Sorry for disrupte your fun but Hahaha(LK) is right MPEG4 is just a program and the receiver processor work on OS, you can receive this channels and see it with SD receiver, but certainly you cant have 720P or 1080I. I,m sure LK is too much IDIOT for understand and write it, so, it is a C/P from another guy. |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1921 Registered: Dec-06 | Why do you guys always fight over trivial things like who gets credit for a C/P.Can you 3 King, Nalin and Plymouth just for once learn to "disuse" the topic instead of picking apart the thread starter in this case Justforhaha's. I know you all think its LK but enough is enough. The topic was helpful and that should be it. Not this fighting like old ladys at Bingo or over who's who or who is right etc... Time to grow up! |
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Silver Member Palatine, IL USA Post Number: 158 Registered: Apr-08 | Amen to that |
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Platinum Member Post Number: 11712 Registered: Jun-06 | Thank you grandma Hedamba. We all know YOU never fight!!! |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3506 Registered: Oct-06 | There is no one fighting Let's keep the women and children off this threads And everything will be OK  It's an FTA discussion Unless yo got technical info Just keep out |
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Gold Member Quebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 4032 Registered: Jan-08 | Doreen Hahaha Alias LK start attack on us and he collect what he sowed. Sorry  |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1922 Registered: Dec-06 | LOL Nalin I fight.. but not about who is who or who is right or even where info comes from .. I fight only when its a personal attack against me and my kids. There is a big difference here. King... Bite me!... The day you post anything that even comes close to an "FTA discussion" without bashing others (white hawk)or anyone else... I will shut up. BTW are you that ignorant? "The mission of this board is to provide the easiest to use discussion forum for anyone interested in....".and "We value your participation! Feel free to post questions, answers, opinions, suggestions, feedback, or information regarding..." Don't tell me what I can and can not do, post or think. Your just a member here not an admin or my mother so STFU King. So once again my suggestions are Stop this fighting like old Lady's at Bingo or over who's who or who is right etc... Time to grow up! |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3509 Registered: Oct-06 | Here we go again trashing technical nfo with yor non-sense Just stay out of tech stuff Yo ain't got it All yo got is trash No tech value So keep out of tech discussions At least the 13 year old egyptian kid got more background than yo do |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3510 Registered: Oct-06 | Zip it doreen, Zip it My gosh If yo got technical info let's see it Or else STFU |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1924 Registered: Dec-06 | Where am I " trashing technical info" LMAO... I really think you should read up on the word "Trashing" King. If you are referring to this >>> "The mission of this board is to provide the easiest to use discussion forum for anyone interested in....".and "We value your participation! Feel free to post questions, answers, opinions, suggestions, feedback, or information regarding... As trashing then I guess the person that wrote out the rules is to blame not me LOL... |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1925 Registered: Dec-06 | Holly Sh!t King ... dont you think Justforhah's said it all already? Why do I need to post any technical info any way? will it help get N3 working any faster? Just what Is your point? |
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Gold Member Quebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 4034 Registered: Jan-08 | Doreen Give me one good reason why you come here and you always defend LK aka HAhaha and White trash kid? You know exactly what is the LK mission or i dont met the good LK, This is a racist and he take everybody for idiots. Give one good reason? |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1926 Registered: Dec-06 | 1st reason... I am not here defending LK or just or white.... 2sd reason... I came here to voice my opinions about the 3 of you feeling free to bash whom ever you please. 3rd reason... without even trying to prove my points.. You 3 have a knack of proving these points of mine by your own responses. I must add ... you 3 don't like to practice what you preach. enough said |
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Gold Member Quebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 4037 Registered: Jan-08 | Doreen Your opinions are welcome, but this answer does not satisfy me.  |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3513 Registered: Oct-06 | I have no idea what the heck she's talking about She's got some crush on LK Now she is taking it on us with her fatal attraction Just ignore her Plymouth Maybe she'll shut up  non-stop |
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Silver Member Post Number: 893 Registered: Aug-06 | King Clownman, The forum has tried the same with YO. |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1927 Registered: Dec-06 | This is getting very scary now... kinda funny tho. You guys are a hoot. You just don't get it. Its not about LK moron. It's about your lack of knowledge in regards to communicate in a reasonable adult manner. You king can't reason nor can you communicate in this forum without bashing anyone first. You always want to take credit with others C/P posts or with most FTA info posted by white or LK even at times Nalin. Out of the 3 of you Nalin may be the only reasonable person. He doesn't claim to know it all unlike you King. Plymouth at least can respect other members here unlike you also King. So I think it's safe to say that King is the bad boy here, the worst of the 3. And King you are wrong 75% of the time if not more. Nalin And Plymouth have proved this in the past as well as others have. Plus Nalin and Plymouth don't try to act like they own this forum unlike you who does. King you have got quite the attitude and a swelled head to boot. I think it's time to get off your high horse and back to reality. I didn't get the memo that the admins made you god of this forum. So stop acting like it! Grow the FU^CK UP!!! |
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Bronze Member Post Number: 15 Registered: Jul-08 | K T, please provide references abbout "1080p was designed against piracy for multimedia products". |
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Gold Member Quebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 4045 Registered: Jan-08 | No Email Please Start a new thread for it, there(create a new thread) https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/35.html |
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Gold Member Quebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 4046 Registered: Jan-08 | Doreen I agree Hahaha Lk is more Wise, but everytime i give him a break he blow the bringing together.(sorry if it is not the good word).  |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1928 Registered: Dec-06 | Why should No Email start a new thread when his question is conserning one of Kings responces (in this threas)? I'll say no chance anytime soon to hack in 1080p Possibly a year to two years All he has to do is pay royalty to Sony and lease 1080p to shut down PTA for good I know he did 1080p for On-demand channels I always suspected other broadcast when he first indroduced it Question is will he afford to do it on all programs or just specific programs Or is he fighting to have 1080p to broadcast all channels So let me get this straight any question about this tread have to be asked else where? I dont get it. This tread is getting stranger by the minute. |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1929 Registered: Dec-06 | plymouth that maybe so about LK, but tonight he hasn't in this thread as of yet. |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3520 Registered: Oct-06 | "K T, please provide references abbout "1080p was designed against piracy for multimedia products" We got a smart guy on board here I like this guy He's looking to put me in the corner But I like challenge Yor a true technical guy and yor question is no doubt a trap Well Mr. No-email I can write chapters on 1080p There is no reference But let me simplify it with quick history - It was agreed that all broadcast to be in 1080i - It was agreed that multi-media format such as HD DVD to be in 1080p The reason is obvious The simple reason behind this is the copying Yor allowed to record yor own broadcast but they don't want yo to record copy righted materials such as HD-DVD 2 companies were racing to win the ultimate standards Everyone thought it will be another BETA/VHS war with Sony's failuire I clearly picked Sony for Classified reasons before it even comes out Everyone was proven wrong Sony won that battle blu-ray is the only ultimate 1080p format for media products There is no consumer product at this time to copy 1080p At least nothing as of this date The hardware is a patent liscence by Sony No one is to build any hardware without direct liscence from Sony This is why I was shocked to know D#N going 1080p Which a very smart move by Dikky See I cheer for the good play And I do understand the punches taking place here Look yor question is Where is the reference And I don't have one My only reference here: That 1080p was designed for multimedia products which is to protect media copy right against anti-piracy 1080i was designed for basic HD broadcast All the sudden Dikky comes out breaking the 2 apart Broadcasting in 1080p I guess he pulled a fast one here If yo don't like the reference Yo may call it King's reference After all, it's timed and dated |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1930 Registered: Dec-06 | NO Paul I'm not pissed . I find it all quite Funny. Is it possible to suffer from foot in mouth disease? I wonder what his shoe tastes like? King isn't saying much now! |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1931 Registered: Dec-06 | oh my god he does speak .... Not making much sense tho. Paranoid yes... tech discussions are not aloud here . According the Plymouth you need to discuse them else where. |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3521 Registered: Oct-06 | When I say no reference No direct reference Yo can read this section and learn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p Or take my simple answer as reference It's an echo on what I said Until Dikky pulls this fast one |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3523 Registered: Oct-06 | This is also another section on 1080p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD I'm in direct contact with many people in the multi-media format I attend all of their shows I travel all across the country to see it There couple of facts here: - 1080p was the chosen format for HD-DVD - 1080i was the chosen format for HD broadcast p= 60 frames per second i= 30 frames per second No doubt No-email was a trickky one But experience is the difference in this case |
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Gold Member Quebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 4048 Registered: Jan-08 | Please dont reply on it, it is btw me and King King Sony is the worst company i know in Electronic Audio Video and i have much experiment on it. This company only copy and try to put out bad equipment like worst mini CD disk and 4 track who is a very bad copy of Phillips and CD Video who as bad copy of RCA Video disk, the first Sony Vega use a RCA tube. The Blue Ray is a big s-h/i/t always in trouble and defective, all Sony product dont give a good Quality/report. Never i buy another Sony product. All hacking on Sony give me satisfy Oooooh Now i feel good Dont be worry |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3524 Registered: Oct-06 | Copy Right is the same as Digital rights management But it is not saying entire structure on key codes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD C/P Digital rights management Main article: Advanced Access Content System If a publisher wishes to restrict use of their HD DVD content, they may use the Advanced Access Content System (AACS) although this is not required for normal disc playback. AACS is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management. It is developed by AACS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Matsushita (Panasonic), Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba and Sony. One of the advantages over CSS, the content restriction system for DVDs, is that AACS allows content providers to revoke an individual player device if its cryptographic keys have been compromised (meaning that it will not be able to decrypt subsequently released content). There is no Region Coding in the existing HD DVD specification, which means that titles from any country can be played in players in any other country. This was likely to give the format some advantage in Europe and other places where consumers are now used to using multi-region players to play DVDs purchased in the US or through the extensive grey market. Since appearing in devices in 2006, several successful attacks have been made on the format. The first known attack relied on the trusted client problem. In addition, decryption keys have been extracted from a weakly protected player (WinDVD). Notably, a Processing Key was found that could be used to decrypt all HD content that had been released at the time.[51] The processing key was widely published on the Internet after it was found and the AACS LA sent multiple DMCA takedown notices in the aim of censoring it.[52] This caused trouble on some sites that rely on user-submitted content, like Digg and Wikipedia, when administrators tried to remove any mentions of the key.[53][54] For more details on this topic, see AACS encryption key controversy. AACS has also been circumvented by SlySoft with their program AnyDVD HD, which allows users to watch HD DVD movies on non-HDCP-compliant PC hardware. Slysoft has stated that AnyDVD HD uses several different mechanisms to disable the encryption, and is not dependent on the use of a single compromised encryption key.[55] Other AACS circumvention programs have become available, like DVDFab HD Decrypter.[56] |
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Gold Member Quebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 4049 Registered: Jan-08 | DVD fab decryptor is far better Intel, Microsoft, Sony and Toshiba all in same boat, dictator company |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1932 Registered: Dec-06 | oh my god...Nalin thats a freak of nature... EWWWWW!!! Is this guy your type? That would explain a lot! Looks more like Kings type tho (big swelled head and all) LMAO |
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In the oddest way to sidestep DRM since the infamous shift-key to disable AutoRun incident, German mag C't has discovered you can record protected high-def flicks in full resolution via automating the print screen function of the provided Intervideo WinDVD software. Both Sony's Vaio and Toshiba's Qosmio laptops with Blu-ray and HD DVD drives respectively come bundled with the software, and are vulnerable to the hack. Quite simply, it can be used to capture the movies frame-by-frame, and then reassembled to create the entire movie. Not the most elegant solution, but they claim it works. Toshiba has already confirmed the problem, and has announced updates for the software and drivers that disable the print screen function. Interestingly, if you have the software it does not appear to violate AACS and would potentially not face being locked out by a future AACS key update. Expect a pirate run on all remaining non-upgraded laptops and to see the aforementioned WinDVD OEM software floating around your local file sharing network any time now. All those delays, and all those licensing fees, defeated by a button thats been around as long as we can remember. The article detailing their find will be published Monday July 10, unless the DMCA ninjas get to it first Crack, Decrypt and Copy HD DVD AACS DRM Protected Movies with BackupHDDVD HD DVD which also known as High Density DVD or High-Definition DVD is a high-density optical disc format designed for the storage of data and high-definition video. For the purpose of using HD DVD discs to store and distribute video and movie contents and releases from Hollywood film studios to retail sales, an encryption system and digital rights management (DRM) copy protection technology named Advanced Access Content System (AACS) has been incorporated into commercialized HD DVDs and Blu-Ray Discs in order to restrict access and limit ability to copy from the HD DVD or Blu-Ray Disc. However, a hacker named gmuslix64� has released a AACS and HD DVD exploit and crack utility named BackupHDDVD on the doom9.org forums. If you own a HD DVD drive, or XBox 360 external USB HD DVD drive with movie titles in HD DVD format, now you can use BackupHDDVD to copy, transfer, backup or rip movie from HD-DVD disc to your hard disk. BackupHDDVD is a simple Java based command line tool for decrypting AACS protected movies, which is most HD DVD video contents and movie releases based on. The crack or exploit hack apparently used the same decryption methodology as the DeCSS hack to crack DVD copy protection encryption scheme DRM named CSS (content scrambling system) by exploiting weak player keys. BackupHDDVD is developed out of motivation from the frustration the hacker faced when he could not play the HD video simply because his video card was not HDCP-compliant, and he had a HD monitor plugged with a DVI interface. Muslix64 has posted a demo video to showcase how the to backup, rip or copy the movies and films from HD DVD by exploiting and cracking the title keys of the HD DVD disk so that the contents can be decrypted and decompressed. |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1934 Registered: Dec-06 | the rest is on this link http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/01/01/crack-decrypt-and-copy-hd-dvd-aacs-drm- protected-movies-with-backuphddvd/ |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1935 Registered: Dec-06 | here is an other one... Copy protection hole in Blu-ray and HD DVD movies The Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD are new data carriers for high-resolution motion pictures. For fear of piracy, Hollywood had the developers install a cornucopia of copy prevention mechanisms on them. For instance, the film data on the disks are protected by means of the Advanced Access Content System (AACS). Digital output only reaches the monitor via connections encrypted by means of High Bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP). This copy protection chain is designed to ensure that no unencrypted data can be grabbed. But this security chain has a giant hole. Computer magazine c't has discovered that the first software players running on Windows XP allow screenshots of the movies to be created in full resolution. To do so, you only need to press the Print key on your keyboard while the movie is running. Such a screenshot function could then be automated to produce copies of HD movies both from Blu-ray Discs and from HD DVDs picture by picture. As c't calculated, the performance of current PC systems is sufficient for a clean recording using this procedure. Once a pirate has all of the individual pictures, they can be put together to create a complete movie and mixed with the audio track that is grabbed separately. This copy protection hole affects both Sony's first Blu-ray PC Vaio VGC-RC 204 and Toshiba's first HD DVD notebook Qosmio G30. Both of them use special OEM versions of Intervideo's WinDVD player software. When asked to comment, Toshiba confirmed the security hole found by c't, which affects the computers already sold, and announced updates for the player software and graphics card driver. These new software versions should disable the screenshot function. According to Toshiba, however, the original WinDVD version does not violate the security stipulations in the AACS LA. Toshiba therefore does not expect the first WinDVD version to be blocked by an update of the AACS key. By switching the keys, which would be necessary for new HD DVD movies, the AACS LA could force users to update their software, thus closing the copy protection hole. The next edition of c't, which goes on sale on Monday, July 10, describes this security hole and its effects in greater detail: •Bilderklau durchs Fenster, Kopierschutzlücke für Blu-ray- und HD-DVD-Filme unter Windows XP, (Stealing pictures through Windows: copy protection hole for Blu-ray and HD DVD movies on Windows XP) c't15/06, p.60 |
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Bronze Member Post Number: 16 Registered: Jul-08 | K T, After reading your replies about 1080p/DRM, the only conclusion one can draws is you have no idea what you are talking about. FYI, D#N has not broadcasting in 1080p, all they do is to download 1080p movies to subscriber's DVR when bandwidth is available. |
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Silver Member Post Number: 690 Registered: Dec-07 | No Email, where have you been? You should have check same of his 3500+ posts before you ask him a question. |
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Silver Member WONT BE GOLFING, UNTIL BUICK OPEN Post Number: 703 Registered: Jun-07 | As for N3 being hacked anytime soon??? ITs RIGHT HERE Why can't we get NFL Sunday Ticket? A- Because NFL ST is being broadcast using N3 encryption THERE IS YOUR ANSWER?? NFL Sunday ticket we cant get, because coders CAN NOT decode it. Some will say, maybe they have it figured out but do not want to show their cards? HORSE HOCKEY! If coders had it they would be showing it, one of the companys such as VS would have it and would be selling a lot more units because of it. IS DAVE HACKED??? NO IMVHO! They are saying, yes it may be hacked but their keeping it a secret?? MORE HORSE HOOKY If it was available someone would be attempting to make money from it. Like there are martians at area 51 in Arizona but the goverment is keeping it secret for the over all good. lol ha ha ha ha lol |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1936 Registered: Dec-06 | C/P Dish Network Will Broadcast in 1080p, Streaming Blu-ray Quality Video Now Possible (But Unlikely) Dish Network Will Broadcast in 1080p, Streaming Blu-ray Quality Video Now Possible (But Unlikely) Dish Network is upgrading their boxes' firmware to display 1080p resolution. Given the lack of 1080p network source material, the existing 720p/1080i compressed HD signals, and the fact that there's no standard limiting the compression quality--1080p can be compressed to crap like any other picture--it's tough to believe this is going to be really useful for consumers. But maybe we are mistaken, because the company actually thinks that their 1080p quality is on par with Blu-ray discs: Starting August 1, the recent blockbuster "I Am Legend" starring Will Smith will be available in Blu-ray disc quality 1080p resolution, only on DISH Network's VOD service, DISH On Demand, at a discounted price. Yes. Dish Network is actually promising I Am Legend in "Blu-ray disc quality 1080p resolution" over Video on Demand. Presumably streamed in real time, it would be a technological feat even if not part of normal programming. And while we bet Dish will make the image look as good as possible under the pressure to show off, whether or not it's truly as stunning as a Blu-ray disc or meets some minimum 1080p prerequisite is yet to be seen. In other news, Dish Network is soldiering on with their promise of 150 HD channels by the end of the year, and tomorrow will add 17 must-see HDTV channels including Lifetime Movie Network HD and Starz Edge HD. Read the presser for all the details. [Dish] ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- July 31, 2008 -- DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH) today set the bar for the next-generation HD standard by becoming the first in the pay-TV industry to offer high definition programming in 1080p, the highest and best HD resolution available. This new functionality is part of DISH Network's latest and unprecedented expansion in HD services, which includes the rollout of TurboHD, the industry's first 100 percent, all-HD suite of programming packages. As previously announced, DISH Network will also launch 17 more national HD channels tomorrow, surpassing its goal of reaching 100 national HD channels five months ahead of schedule. DISH Network now plans to nearly double its national HD channel count in less than one year and offer up to 150 national HD channels by the end of 2008, made possible by the recent launch of Echo XI, the most powerful satellite in the company's fleet. "Over the years, DISH Network has maintained a very competitive HD offering in the marketplace, providing customers with a premium HD product including the best technology, signal and experience -- at the best value -- that no other pay-TV provider can come close to matching," said Charlie Ergen, Chairman, CEO and President of DISH Network. "Our latest system upgrade coupled with the introduction of TurboHD further strengthens our position as the leader in digital television and high definition television, platforms we look forward to enhancing even more with mobile and portable options." DISH Network's new HD services are supported by a proprietary "turbo-charged" system upgrade that, starting August 1, is being rolled out to all MPEG-4 HD and HD DVR receivers. The upgrade activates a unique feature of the set-top boxes, improving the current standard of HD delivery used by pay-TV providers such as the ability to output 1080p programming. By early August, all DISH Network customers with MPEG-4 HD and HD DVR receivers will have the only set-top boxes in the nation enabled to display 1080p content, allowing them to maximize the full potential of their 1080p-compatible HDTV sets. To celebrate this new era in the HD viewing experience, DISH Network is offering subscribers a special deal in August to enjoy the unparalleled picture and sound of 1080p HD programming. Starting August 1, the recent blockbuster "I Am Legend" starring Will Smith will be available in Blu-ray disc quality 1080p resolution, only on DISH Network's VOD service, DISH On Demand, at a discounted price. Subscribers may order the movie on DISH Network Channel 501. This marks the first time in history a pay-TV provider offers movies in 1080p, the highest resolution format available for HD video enthusiasts. Consumers can sign up for the best HD programming and service in the industry with DISH Network's new TurboHD programming packages, the only all-HD packages on the market, starting at $24.99 per month. TurboHD is available in three separate tiers and includes DISH Network's award-winning and industry-leading HD technology, advanced equipment enabled to display 1080p programming, and the most-watched HD channels that may be viewed on any TV -- analog, digital or HD. Current DISH Network customers with MPEG-4 HD and HD DVR receivers are being automatically upgraded and will have their systems "turbo-charged" by early August with all the features and benefits of TurboHD. DISH Network customers looking to add the industry's best HD experience can get a "turbo-charged" HD package for as little as $10 more per month. The latest national HD channels added to DISH Network's programming line-up are: ActionMax HD (DISH Network Ch. 313), CBS College Sports HD (Ch. 152), Lifetime HD (Ch. 108), Lifetime Movie Network HD (Ch. 109), Planet Green HD (Ch. 194), Encore HD (Ch. 340), HBO 2 HD (Ch. 301), HBO Comedy HD (Ch. 307), HBO Family HD (Ch. 305), HBO Latino HD (Ch. 309), HBO Signature HD (Ch. 302), HBO West HD (Ch. 303), HBO Zone HD (Ch. 308), Starz Comedy HD (Ch. 354), Starz Edge HD (Ch. 352), Starz Kids & Family HD (Ch. 356), Starz West HD (Ch. 351). For more information about DISH Network's 1080p programming, new HD channels and TurboHD system and packages, visit other links http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6583200.html http://news.digitaltrends.com/news-article/17435/dish-network-hits-1080p http://broadcastengineering.com/news/dish-network-rolls-vod-service-0805/ http://www.tvpredictions.com/dish073108.htm http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/dish-network-1080p-august very intresting reading |
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Silver Member Post Number: 692 Registered: Dec-07 | Tiger Woods,THERE IS YOUR ANSWER?? NFL Sunday ticket we cant get, because coders CAN NOT decode it. Now you are guessing like the Africa from Nigeria. Why would they show their cards. Besides any given Sunday you can watch any game you want. |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1939 Registered: Dec-06 | C/P NHL chooses Bell ExpressVu HD PVR for video replay during playoffs Shortly after Sharp's AQUOS HD Netcam took the ice in a Rangers / Devils matchup, the National Hockey League has announced that it will be utilizing a certain carrier's own HD PVR for instant replays during the 2008 Stanley Cup playoffs. Apparently Bell Canada's dual-tuner 9242 -- which can hold up to 30 hours of HD / 200 hours of SD content -- will be used throughout the playoffs in order to view instant video replays, but details beyond that are scant. High-def aficionados up north who'd like to get ahold of the same box being used by the NHL can procure one for a stiff $599 (one-time fee) or rent one for $20 per month. |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3525 Registered: Oct-06 | K T, please provide references abbout "1080p was designed against piracy for multimedia products". Yo either the only dude in America who didn't know that Or simply I thought yo wanted me to lead yo to the direct link cuz ther is no direct link If yo simply read the basics of 1080p yo might just get it, cuz everything yo need is in this thread "FYI, D#N has not broadcasting in 1080p, all they do is to download 1080p movies to subscriber's DVR when bandwidth is available. Yor in LaLa Land dude Wake up and smell the coffee At least I gave a chance to understand the transition before it's in full gear Of course they haven't encoded 1080p yet They only applied N#3 in the new stream So they're replacing the boxes for their health I don't know when they start 1080p It's not a push of a button to switch all broadcast It's a transition Yo say I have no idea what I'm talking about I think yo have no idea what 1080p encoding is all about So let's leave at that Too bad yo ask good questions But not willing to listen and learn |
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Bronze Member Post Number: 17 Registered: Jul-08 | I want to learn but want to learn from someone that has a clue on what they are talking about. |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1940 Registered: Dec-06 | DISH Network's new HD services are supported by a proprietary "turbo-charged" system upgrade that, starting August 1, is being rolled out to all MPEG-4 HD and HD DVR receivers. The upgrade activates a unique feature of the set-top boxes, improving the current standard of HD delivery used by pay-TV providers such as the ability to output 1080p programming. By early August, all DISH Network customers with MPEG-4 HD and HD DVR receivers will have the only set-top boxes in the nation enabled to display 1080p content, allowing them to maximize the full potential of their 1080p-compatible HDTV sets. |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1941 Registered: Dec-06 | Yes. Dish Network is actually promising I Am Legend in "Blu-ray disc quality 1080p resolution" over Video on Demand. Presumably streamed in real time, it would be a technological feat even if not part of normal programming. And while we bet Dish will make the image look as good as possible under the pressure to show off, whether or not it's truly as stunning as a Blu-ray disc or meets some minimum 1080p prerequisite is yet to be seen. |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3527 Registered: Oct-06 | "I want to learn but want to learn from someone that has a clue on what they are talking about." Well yo maybe in luck Cuz Doreen will take over from here I'll work on improving my knowledge some more |
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Silver Member WONT BE GOLFING, UNTIL BUICK OPEN Post Number: 704 Registered: Jun-07 | White Hawk Silver Member Username: Mucho Post Number: 692 Registered: Dec-07 Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 08:56 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tiger Woods,THERE IS YOUR ANSWER?? NFL Sunday ticket we cant get, because coders CAN NOT decode it. Now you are guessing like the Africa from Nigeria. Why would they show their cards. Besides any given Sunday you can watch any game you want. Hey White Hawk, I was accused of being you couple weeks ago, guess that clinches it that we are not one in the same eh  I am however, Yukon and fta tester Coders could not keep it a secret if they had it, IMHO...Hey obviously I hope I am dead wrong. I want this to go on for years to come!!!! |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3529 Registered: Oct-06 | Yeah right What is Cam-corders got to do with 1080p broadcast Ignorant They are 2 different animals This is like saying banana is the same as yellow 1080p Cameras do 60 frames per second Broadcast converts 60 frames to 60 fields If yo know what that is? 1080p has many over-lapping patents Sony and Philips hold blu-ray patent which is dependant on 1080p If yo thought I meant consumer products as Cam-corders What I'm saying is DVRs or VCRs for consumers Make sure yo read first Yor a sales field service tech Leave heavy technical concepts to more experienced engineers Is this the best yo can do Jimmy? I'm greatly disappointed from yor lack of creativity I love to kick yor butt even on Sundays  |
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Silver Member Post Number: 694 Registered: Dec-07 | Tiger Woods if you are who you say you are then (we) yes are not one of the same, only on the same sides. Btw FTA Business is bigger then US Steel. The Godfather told me that everthing was under control. |
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Silver Member Post Number: 695 Registered: Dec-07 | Boba Fett He may be that old,but he is not white You can tell by his posts. He is not a Navajo just a Niger whore from Africa. |
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Bronze Member Post Number: 18 Registered: Jul-08 | K T, if you have a clue on what you are talking about, you will stop tossing 60 frames rate around with 1080p. 60 fps is not a requirement for 1080p. Go look it up. |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3530 Registered: Oct-06 | "60 fps is not a requirement for 1080p." It's clear yo dunno nothing about 1080p Everything is 60 fps Even interlaced is 60 fps Odd and even fields make the equivalent of 30fps That's why it's called 1080i30 1080p Cameras are 60 fps 1080p broadcast is a compressed MPEG-4 60 fps f is either field or frame Depending on how it's used Dude I'm in the field I don't have time for noobs like yo I gave yo chance to ask some intelligent questions, but I was wrong, yo just got lucky I reply with answers for folks that want to understand and willing to learn My answers are so simple for any average person to understand it I don't mind smart azzes like yo I can handle a 100 smart azzes like yo Yor not gonna learn by asking questions to Circuit city sales guys and come back take a shot at me This field is bet complicated yo ain't got the vision to even partially understand Go ask an expert not circuit city bus boy Yo know darn well I got the experience And yo like a child think yo can learn by asking in a challenging way My answers are firm What yor missing is the basic fundamentals Or basic common sense or perhaps all the above So if yo wanna learn don't make an azz out of yorself Don't make ridiculous ignorant comments like:"60 fps is not a requirement for 1080p." A pizza delivery boy won't make outrages statement like this For a moment I thought yo know a little But now I'm sure yo dunno sh!t Yo like LK says yor wannabee It's clear why yo hide behind a nick name "No-email" Have some balls with a real name not a faceless coward |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3533 Registered: Oct-06 | For the record 1080i and 1080p decoders Are 2 differnt hardwares 1080p decoders can do all formats 1080i FTA receiver/decoder is not compatible with 1080p This is what the main objective of this thread is all about Hardware compatibility Make sure yo get that straight |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1943 Registered: Dec-06 | Dish Network is upgrading their boxes' firmware to display 1080p resolution. Given the lack of 1080p network source material, the existing 720p/1080i compressed HD signals, and the fact that there's no standard limiting the compression quality--1080p can be compressed to crap like any other picture--it's tough to believe this is going to be really useful for consumers. But maybe we are mistaken, because the company actually thinks that their 1080p quality is on par with Blu-ray discs: |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3535 Registered: Oct-06 | "But maybe we are mistaken, because the company actually thinks that their 1080p quality is on par with Blu-ray discs:" There is a little mix up here Let me correct First For On-demand PPV When providers use original source i.e. HD Video tapes in native format 1920x1080 60 fps later encoded to 1080p The broadcast will be as sharp as diamond As good as blu-ray if not better When providers take basic broadcast like for instance H#BO from native C-band 1080i broadcast then re-encode it to 1080p the quality will be slightly less than C-band and slightly better than conventional KuBand 1080i I personally think 1080p will be just as bad as Ku band for it's a second generation no matter how yo slice it But theoretically 1080p can be better than conventional Ku band Don't forget Entire strategy behind this transition is to encode entire service to something can't be easy to breach I always say nothing in electronics unbreakable Can coders break into this or not? Logically speaking I say it puts D#N to much higher secure state than other rivals Clear to me it's the main reason they choose this transition At same time dave's HD programs in Ka 20 GHz Makes it a bit challenging Yo'll need someone that makes that kind of LNBs There isn't enough Ka LNBs for all PTA Those LNBs will be hard to get if PTA brak out on dave Relax There always gonna be PTA But I don't think it will be dikky or Dave anytime soon Possibly Star$choice or other C-band on a 1.2 meter dish I'm dying to know what is the next PTA Maybe and I'm only saying maybe Dave has more risk of PTA than future D#N But anything is just possible when there is a strong will |
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Bronze Member Post Number: 73 Registered: Nov-07 | King, you sure are talking in 1080p so most of us can't understand what the hell you are talking about It is better not to listen to you caz I remember you made so many false predictions in the past so for now I'm going to take all your 1080p crap and flush it down the toilet. |
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Silver Member Post Number: 434 Registered: Jan-08 | I personally think 1080p will be just as bad as Ku band for it's a second generation no matter how yo slice it But theoretically 1080p can be better than conventional Ku band KU band has noting to due with the quality of the picture azzhat U can receive uncompressed video on ku all day long u have no understanding and your broom pushing brain lacks the knownledge to distinguish between sat signal and video compression Far as score wise goes DUDE U whine and whine all the time to have my post removed cuz they show ur dumbass up time after time ..u have yet to best me U knows it I knows it and this forum knows why u thinks ur creditablity is chit amongst 99% of the long time memebers here the one 1% that canadian moron who speaks english on your same kindergarden level. |
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Bronze Member Post Number: 19 Registered: Jul-08 | K T, about your "It's clear why yo hide behind a nick name "No-email" Have some balls with a real name not a faceless coward" comment. I know you have no clue about HDTV but I didn't know if don't you even know the common practice of using handle at discussion forum. When your parents named you King, what is the meaning behind it? Oh wait, maybe King is not your real name either. |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3538 Registered: Oct-06 | Bobba Fett Yor a true ignorant One of a kind Like I said yo make outrages statements even pizza delivery boy won't make Yo love to get yor azz kicked in public Yo just got yorself dunked Providers take basic broadcast like H#BO from native C-band and rebroadcast it with their own encryption on Ku Band This is considered second generation Put up or shut up Explain to me if it's done any other way So what do yo say Show us yor educated side Put up or shut up or yo gonna be a faceless coward like usual keep in mind I know yor true name And for the record my true name is King |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1944 Registered: Dec-06 | King i doubt very much your parents really called you "King". it's bad enough you try to tell us you know more than most here but lying about your name. Thats low. |
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Silver Member Post Number: 700 Registered: Dec-07 | His real name is not King. He is an Africa from Nigeria. Also he don't live in New York he lives in Maryland. On this Satellite forum he likes to think that he is King and we are all stupid. He post in circles trying to confuse you. Even he don't know what in the hell he is takling about. He C/P his info. He is just another Niger phony. |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3539 Registered: Oct-06 | "it's bad enough you try to tell us you know more than most here" No one is saying I know more He's claiming what I'm saying is wrong There is a difference I would love to see the correction I'm asking that S.O.B. If I was wrong To explain to us how's the re-broadcast is done And I'm waiting for an answer He either put up, or shut up Come on Jimmy Be a man  What's the matter? are yo chicken?  pac, pac, pac |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1945 Registered: Dec-06 | don't answer that anyone.. King your not even worth giving the time of day too. Your playing games now to get attention. And you are far from worthy of attention. Its a waste of our time to play your games. Bu-bye now |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1946 Registered: Dec-06 | btw your right "No one is saying I know more " Only you say that about yourself!!!! DUHHHHH |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3540 Registered: Oct-06 | I guess the chicken sh!t choose to shut up Like usual Jimmy Yo hide behind various nick names Have the balls once to come out Tell us what yo know about 1080p that I haven't provided Yor the the biggest chicken sh!t of this forum Faceless coward |
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Bronze Member Post Number: 74 Registered: Nov-07 | Who is talking like a chicken here? Yo, Yor, Yall...what the f*uck! |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1947 Registered: Dec-06 | informative video please watch i dunno if this helps or not |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1948 Registered: Dec-06 | What is C band and KU Band? Most free To Air satellite content exists on C Band or Ku Band. C band is the original frequency allocation for communications satellites. C-Band uses 3.7-4.2Ghz for uplink and 5.9-6.4Ghz for downlink. C band requires the use of a large dish, usually 6' across. C band dishes vary between 3' and 9' across, depending upon signal strength.The lower frequencies used by C band perform better under adverse weather conditions than the KU band. The KU band uplink uses frequencies from 14 to 14.5GHz and the downlink uses frequencies between 11.7 and 12.7GHz.Ku band dishes can be much smaller than C band dishes. Ku band dishes vary from 2' to 5' in diameter.Ku band satellites typically transmit with much more power than C band satellites.The higher frequencies of KU band are significantly more vulnerable to signal quality problems caused by rainfall, known as rainfade, than C band satellite frequencies. 1080p vs 1080i? Which is better? Most TV buyers are looking for the highest quality picture possible. For those shopping for a TV there is a controversy brewing about which is better 1080p or 1080i. However, the truth of the matter is that for most people both of these formats will deliver the same quality picture. Here is why. 1080i and 1080p Both 1080i and 1080p deliver the same pixel resolution. The resolution is 1,920 pixels across the display screen by 1,080 pixels down the display screen. Since both formats offer the same resolution, the only difference is how the signal is sent directly from the source (DVD player, BluRay player, video game console, etc) and displayed on the TV screen. For those that use their TV's to watch either TV shows, DVD's or BluRay Discs, you will see no difference 1080i For the 1080i format the video frames sent from the source to the TV are displayed in an alternating field. Every 30th of a second a video frame is made up of 1,080 pixel rows. These rows are sent interlaced, first the even rows are sent, then the odd rows, together they make up one full frame. 1080p With the 1080p format, both the odd and even rows of the frame are sent together making a full frame being displayed. This means that there is no interlacing. However, most HDTV's are made to de-interlace an image so that whether or not you have a 1080i or 1080p, the image shown will be the same. There are exceptions to the similarities when dealing with very high end equipment and when gaming. Since the refresh rates are higher, but for the overwhelming majority of TV viewers, there will be no difference of the final images being displayed on either a 1080i or 1080p TV format |
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Silver Member Post Number: 335 Registered: Jul-08 | TY Doreen for that post...You made a very simple thing even simpler and put into terms that even the newest newbie will understand. I have seen these topics exagerrated, and overkilled by some here, making them appear to be complicated for the sole purpose of double talk to impresss others, when as anybody can see, its very simple.. |
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Gold Member Ontario Canada Post Number: 1949 Registered: Dec-06 | your welcome haha |
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Bronze Member Post Number: 72 Registered: Oct-06 | I been away from this site and dowloading bins to my colsat because i have a tree in front of my apartment and i dont get to use my DN in the summer. but now fall is here and the leaves are falling im getting a better reception. i seen that there is a BIN file from 7/15/08 and i was wondering if that file was still active or is there a newer one. ty |
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Gold Member Quebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 4086 Registered: Jan-08 | Ferrari Fire You need new one You can found the new there without login http://dsstesterDOTcom/files.php?cat=18 replace "DOT" by "." Note next time start a new thread here: https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/35.html |
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Silver Member Post Number: 435 Registered: Jan-08 | Yor the the biggest chicken sh!t of this forum Faceless coward Well dipshit unlike a littel broom pusher I have a real job and can't be here every day... The ball is not in my court I once again called u out and u once again have no factual data to back up you retardian claims... U have to prove what u have said Which we all here knows is above your janitorial experiance.. Just like it has been for the last 900 times I have slammed ur chit... Poor poor king ... I knows u wish we all was ur little crack ho's who be saying yeah yeah yeah... |
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Gold Member New York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3543 Registered: Oct-06 | Let's suspend the debate Jimmy finally got a real job at a packaging company |
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