Bronze Member Username: ZulumonsterGaysex, Muslim Rev wright Post Number: 31 Registered: Jun-08 | as we speak, actually, right now, i'm working on a way to convert the 600P to the 650 Classic...i believe it's a matter of Boot loaders....600P has 3.01, 650 uses 3.02....boot loaders come in .bin format, so i'm thinking if i can find the 3.02 boot loader, and load it on to the 600P via Upgrade1.07 for 600P, then use Upgrade1.02 for 650, and try loading 1.13...if i can find 3.02, and it works, i'll be posting step by step instructions. alot of people wondering if 600S/600P went the way of CS 4/5/6k, and this will put many minds at ease, as they could simply convert and stop bin-beggin. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS THEORY??? CAN IT BE DONE |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2802 Registered: Jan-08 | Zulu This is a software inside a micro-controller, that can be possible if we load factory file for 650 and bin, i have a 600S Premium that can be interesting if that work. But if pins on chips is different that could not work. We need to know if main chips is the same. |
Bronze Member Username: ZulumonsterGaysex, Muslim Rev wright Post Number: 32 Registered: Jun-08 | Thanks PLYMOUTH...for full disclosure this is out of my pay range. I just copied that from another site, the guy posted this 4 weeks ago, nobody responded, no updates. I just wondered if one of you guys could get working on the theory for the rest of us I would be willing to load your first test bin on my unit?? Let us know, eh! ANYBODY, lets have all the smarter folks like plymouth and King etc get working on this, we could even reward a prize to the first guy that successfully converts the 600 p to a 650 classic. I GOT IT!!! THE WINNER GETS ONE NIGHT, ALL EXPENSES PAID WITH SATGIRL, DOREEN AND KATE. |
Silver Member Username: MetallicaPost Number: 837 Registered: Jan-08 | three of those girls maybe 1 is a guy..if the winner pick the wrong 1 he will be in a lot of trouble. |
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3053 Registered: Oct-06 | Plymouth all MPs/MC don't contain software on board or any memory exchange inside chip all hex code storage is off the chip thru peripheral interface to external components MP holds few internal registers that's about it. Even cash memory is often off the chip But yo are right a loader programs often depend on the data buses i.e. number of pins in/out thu memory Mr. Zulumonster In the future if yo want people take yor questions serious yo need to lose gaysex, rev wright, muslim off yor profile It's not funny when yo disrespect someone else's religion Infact it's not American But in any case Yo want to research something yo have to be willing to expect the unexpected i.e. trail and error, I do it all the time Success often come after failure attempts Can yo mess up receiver's EEPROM if yo use wrong loader? Of course yo can mess it up So if it does happen j-tag it, reload bin or get an extra replacement EEPROM $20 to $30 from factory Yo can tell them spilled some coffee on the chip But go ahead try any loader yo want Now that yo know the risk In many cases original loader PGM might work Trial and error is fun sometimes |
Gold Member Username: RunnerguyPluto Post Number: 1486 Registered: Sep-06 | zulumonster = Tiger Woods= Dirty Democrat= naked girl= DIABLO |
Bronze Member Username: ZulumonsterGaysex, Muslim Rev wright Post Number: 33 Registered: Jun-08 | Tiger Woods was banned. |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2805 Registered: Jan-08 | Zulumonster and KinG I have one for test, i dont have time for now but i try it when busy time gone. King Some microcontroller have a EEprom inside and all datas can be modified. A EEprom have a program who can be mofified totally with factory file or you buy one preprogram from factory. I open my box and give you info on it later. |
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3056 Registered: Oct-06 | Nope All external Pal's or Gal's, Roms, Proms, Eproms etc. If yo say some have inside can yo name one? I'll look it up Yo probably mean internal registers Any type of memory on board as far as I know must be volatile For one reason If there is a problem/damage it's much easier to replace memory Only talking toys can be one chip from China Those are not much of M/C I guarantee yo all FTA rec's got integrated M/P Look I'll be totally surprised if they were not integrated |
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3057 Registered: Oct-06 | These are some of the most basic 8 bit MP ever invented: 6809 68000 Z80 8085 8086 8088 8031 8051 http://www.amlsb.com/esa.html |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2807 Registered: Jan-08 | King i found one in just the time to write on yahoo, but in some use on different board on most use in industry. http://www.microcontroller.com/news/microchip_pic32.asp These chips you name are very old and not use today or use on basic small project |
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3058 Registered: Oct-06 | The PIC32 yo got in the above link If yo look at block diagram There is is no EPROM on same chip The Peripheral bus is what interfaces with all types of external memory Yo can trust me on that That flash is something else That's for basic logic operations performed by MP Data fetch to internal registers Those types of memory are few K's Not much of a firmware Firmware, operating systems all types of programmable and reprogrammable memory that run the MP are usually too large to keep on board with MP Any MP makers if they do that They'll limit their commercial usage as far as MP various capabilities Biggest enemy to memory is the limitation of capacity size Semi-conductor designers spend several years to come up with one design Is like bulding Sports Stadium with all parking spaces at the basement along with all employees living at the same complex It will be illogical...but everything possible |
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3059 Registered: Oct-06 | Hey Zulumonster I hope this can help: c/p http://www.freesatfix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1940 1- If yo own/buy CAPTIVE WORKS 600S, first yo need to check which software OSD is loaded on it. Connect ird to tv - Press Menu - Scroll to Accesories and press OK - Scroll to About STB now check if yor software version is KXKround or Summer a- If yor software version is Summer (older receivers) you must use the Summer to Kround conversion kit attached. Then yo can load the latest fix b- If yor software version is KXKround (newer receivers), yo are now ready to load latest fixes 2- Original Loader 1.02 for Summer fixes 3- Loader v1.05 for Kround fixes Yo can get either loader or conversion kit at freesatfix.com - Summer to Kround conversion kit.zip (1.17 MB) - UpgradeV1.02.zip (162.4 KB) - Upgrade v 1.05.zip |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2808 Registered: Jan-08 | King look this Siemens Microcont. with eeprom mem. inside |
Bronze Member Username: Avr1Post Number: 25 Registered: Jun-08 | Atmega128 has onboard eep. http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/product_card.asp?part_id=2018 |
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3062 Registered: Oct-06 | Yes that is correct Atmega 128 is an 8-bit with built in 4k Ram and 4k EEprom But that's not entire EEPROM Yo can't flush a toilet with 4k That's few fetch data/instructions to turn on few functions during main re-flash process Or perhaps limited bios for roll over when main firmware electrically updated Mainly not what yo normally flash receiver with Yo open any device Yo'll find EEprom (firmware) on seperate chip With white tagged sticker With firmware version 1.0 or 2.0 etc. Usually on a socket for easy upgrade/replacement That's a must |
Bronze Member Username: Avr1Post Number: 26 Registered: Jun-08 | I was just disputing the statement you made that MC's didn't have internal eeprom's. |
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3063 Registered: Oct-06 | I see yor point My point was about Plymouth thought that the reflash process is direct reprogram to software on main processor Which is impossible |
Bronze Member Username: King_of_ratsPost Number: 29 Registered: Jun-08 | Could you talk normal?...... I wish you'd talk normal.... |
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 11181 Registered: Jun-06 | Embedded EEPROM is a more expensive solution (in terms of real estate used on the chip) than Ram. It is cheaper to have heftier RAM inside the chip. Considering that the general aim is to keep everything within a 8" x 6" x 1" receiver, it is much more practical to have a hefty EEPROM outside of the CPU and have hardware logic that automatically initialises the CPU's internal RAM with the data on the EEPROM at power up. You thus achieve the higher speeds of RAM and direct access within the chip, plus reprogramability of the EEPROM external to the CPU chip.. |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2814 Registered: Jan-08 | King the Siemens chips can be flash, i know because i can do a copy with a chip programmer. You play in my branch now. Many chips dont use EEprom for named their memory but use it with same method for flash it. We can have a good discussion on it but this is not the good thread for it. I tried bad loader and bin on 600premium when i buy it and i recover it with help of Tooter and Cartier, we cant kill the box. |
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3067 Registered: Oct-06 | Look yo got a good point But my point is if yo flash an EEPROM there must be a temporary transition for the full flash roll over to take place My disagreement is flashing a receiver can not take place directly to MP at least not for our receiver usage like loading latest bin to STB The EEPROM for these type of receivers got to be a lot larger than 4k or even 16k I don't know what part of ROM get kept at the MP and what not Two things yo can do - Open yor receiver and locate yor EEPROM - Compare loaded bin in memory size yo'll see around 1MB not 4k The 4k is a very small part of the EEPROM No way that would be the main flashing process "Many chips don't use EEprom for named their memory" That depends on the application 4k is like doing 4 basic controlled functions What happens if yo exceed 4k? Where to borrow more memory when yo run out? The way I learned and taught MP for many years is peripheral interfaces to various addressable memory types I do believe yo Yo may had experience with MP on smaller programs that don't require additional ROM. These type of flashable receivers demand much more than 4k This is similar to DN problems Their older receivers (10 years old) got Limited Read Only Options As they change encryption security they need bigger ROMs and they are up against a lot more sophisticated capacity on newer FTA receivers Bottom line All MPs are fully capable to interface with both internal or external memory Internal memory is always limited like Nalin says here Internal maybe for fewer commands External is what I expect for FTA receivers |
Silver Member Username: King_of_satsPost Number: 416 Registered: Jan-08 | Well before I go off in Hey Fakeman your a jackazz.... Lets start pickin your chit apart one step at a time.... I pressed for time today.... 68000 is not a 8 bit cpu it's a 16/32 IS there anything you know about electronics that is true... Black boys r@pe our your girls but violet give willingly Bet you have no idea what that means |
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Gold Member Username: DoreenakadjOntario Canada Post Number: 1726 Registered: Dec-06 | FIRST... I would like to say GREAT THREAD. SECOND... " I GOT IT!!! THE WINNER GETS ONE NIGHT, ALL EXPENSES PAID WITH SATGIRL, DOREEN AND KATE.">> what if I win? Do I date myself LOL THRID... for CwP600 the newest uploader is 107 but 105 and 106 still work too. FORTH... You can't screw up a cw receiver . If you load the wrong bin in it by mistake , you can start over and load the factory boot bin etc... Here is a list of boots and bins I have Collected over the past year or so for CWp600 CX_KroundV1.08-CW-600S Premium_2006-04-06 CX-LoaderV3.01 Captive work bin update.wps CW-600 Premium Factory bin v 1.09 CX-LoaderV2.50 icon binfile [load only in standby mode] Captiveworks 600p V1 1.05 . 1.06, 1.07 loaders CW600PV1.09_Reocrder_2_20_07 cw_600p_bev_longname_12_2007 cw_600p_dn_longname_12_2007 c/p Dead Box, No LCD display, Red Light Only, or "I loaded the wrong Software" How To: CW600-S PREMIUM RECIEVERS ONLY! This How To is for anyone who has a box that appears to be 'dead'. Possible signs of a dead STB are: Unit will not power on correctly. Unit will not display anything on LCD. Unit only shows a red light on the box. Unit is stuck in boot mode. Unit freezes during boot up. If you are experiencing any of these problems or something very simple then the chances are, you have a dead STB. At the moment, there are no JTAG 'revival' techniques, that will repair dead boxes. However there may still be hope for you. If the receiver can be placed into boot mode, you may be able to fix your broken box by loading the factory software onto the receiver. Things to know before trying to revive a dead box. First of all, if your STB is brand new and has never been updated by anyone, then you need to send your unit in for repair. CaptiveWorks has a 1 year manufacturers warranty on these receivers. Before attempting to 'fix' the problem yourself, contact CaptiveWorks via their website or phone number to see if you can have your box repaired. Secondly, if you have killed your box by loading software onto it "PERIOD", whether this was factory software or not, you have violated your warranty agreement an forfeit any repair work that CaptiveWorks may have previously done for free within the warranty period. If you have only attempted to load factory software and have not attempted to load 'second hand' or 'non factory' software (such as the updates provided on this site), CaptiveWorks "WILL NOT" repair your unit. They are bound by law, not to repair any unit that has been modified to work outside of it's factory parameters. So don't send in your 'patched' unit expecting CaptiveWorks to fix your mistake. It won't happen. Last but not least, the following steps are not guaranteed to revive your STB. This is your last hope of reviving your receiver until a JTAG procedure is developed and even then it may not be possible to fix the problems with your STB. If the following steps do not repair your receiver, let me be the first to congratulate you on your new doorstop. First you must check to see if you can get your receiver to stay in boot mode. This is done by powering off the receiver from the rear rocker switch and powering back on from the rear rocker switch while holding the power button on the front of the receiver. If your receiver continues to display 'boot' on the LCD screen then there may be hope for you yet. If you are not able to get the receiver to continue to show 'boot' but it does show when the unit attempts to turn on, skip all of the following steps until you reach the section labled 'No Boot?' If you do not see 'boot' at all on the LCD screen of the receiver, congratulations, you may now throw your receiver away. Next you will need to load the factory software for the premium receivers onto the box via RS232 Null Modem Serial Cable. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LOAD ANY SOFTWARE ONTO THE BOX VIA USB TO SERIAL CABLE! There is currently no way for you to load the receiver using a USB to Serial Cable, while the receiver is in boot mode. You will actually have to connect to a serial port on the computer or you will not be able to continue. While the receiver is in boot mode, you will need to load the factory files starting with the V1.09 software, followed by the V3.01 CXLoader. It is best to load these files using the V1.06 software updater, however, the V1.05 updater will work as well. The factory software for CW600-S PREMIUM receivers can be found here [link removed] The file in that thread contains both the V3.01 CXLoader and the V1.09 Factory Software. If you are not able to get the software to transfer, check your settings and try again. If the software will not take, and you are sure that your settings are correct and the cable is good, you may now throw your receiver away. If you are able to get the software to load, attempt to reboot the unit. If the receiver still does not turn on correctly or continues to show signs of being dead, try to load the software again. If you continue to have problems once the software has loaded after a second or third time, congratulations you may now throw your receiver away. If your receiver makes it all the way through the boot up and displays a channel or Menu Screen and you are able to navigate through your settings on the box, do a factory default ('All' option) and load the factory software again followed by another factory default ('All' option) before attempting to load the correct software for the PREMUIM receiver. NO BOOT? If you are unable to get the unit to stay in boot mode, there is one last chance that you may be able to revive your receiver. Connect an RS232 Null Modem cable to the receiver and run the V1.06 software on your computer. You will need the factory software before continuing. It can be found here. [link removed] This contains both the V3.01 CXLoader and the V1.09 Factory Software. You will need to prepare the updater for loading the V1.09 Factory Software. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LOAD ANY SOFTWARE ONTO THE BOX VIA USB TO SERIAL CABLE! There is currently no way for you to load the receiver using a USB to Serial Cable (this applies because you are attempting to load the receiver in boot mode). You will actually have to connect to a serial port on the computer or you will not be able to continue. Once everything is ready to update the receiver, reboot the STB. While the receiver displays 'boot' on the LCD screen, press the start button in the updater software on the computer. Hopefully your receiver will start to load the factory software. If your receiver does not start the transfer, attempt this several more times because your timing, may be off and there is not an exact science as to when to press the start button on the software. If you are not able to get the software to transfer, check your settings and try again. If the software will not take, and you are sure that your settings are correct and the cable is good, you may now throw your receiver away. If you are able to get the software to load, attempt to reboot the unit. If the receiver still does not turn on correctly or continues to show signs of being dead, try to load the software again. If you continue to have problems once the software has loaded after a second or third time, congratulations you may now throw your receiver away. If your receiver makes it all the way through the boot up and displays a channel or Menu Screen and you are able to navigate through your settings on the box, do a factory default ('All' option) and load the factory software again followed by another factory default ('All' option) before attempting to load the correct software for the PREMUIM receiver. Hopefully this has helped you and you are now enjoying TV. For those of you whose receivers would not revive, I am truly sorry for your loss and hope that this has been a learning experience and you are able to learn from your mistakes. For those of you who are still completely dumbfounded and there hasn't been a shred of light to explain why your box died, I hope this hasn't soured your taste towards the CaptiveWorks receivers and that you find joy in a new FTA receiver (whether this one or another) that has no problems. CP by LK all about cwp600...must read [link removed] cw clone warnings ...[link removed] [link removed] [link removed] info on new CW 650... [link removed] compare the CW's,....[link removed] GOOD LUCK guys I hope this kelps a little bit! |
Gold Member Username: DoreenakadjOntario Canada Post Number: 1727 Registered: Dec-06 | oops i meant HELP not "kelps">>>> silly me |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2816 Registered: Jan-08 | King "What happens if yo exceed 4k?" The Box only freeze on different function and you can reflash with original program for recover like you format a computer. "Where to borrow more memory when yo run out?" Thats hypothetic we know then memory of two CW are the same. |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2817 Registered: Jan-08 | Boba Fett You dont need to attack King on this thread, this discussion are important for many members and can help to understand how receiver work. If you think King are not right give us the reason why. |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2819 Registered: Jan-08 | Doreen We are not newbies, if you can try to convert 600 in 650 give us the procedure. We dont need any files. For me your post is too much long and good for newbies and have nothing to do in this thread and no help for us All loader and factory files are on http://www.captiveworks.com/downloads.php and bin files on many other sites then you suggest. Good spamming Thanks |
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3069 Registered: Oct-06 | Plymouth Just ignore the clueless That's Jimmy the RBM He's a senior member at the speaker forum He thinks he knows electronics cuz he can hock a pair of speakers Hey bubba When I decide to have an open discussion with retards I promise yo will be the first on my list So be patient |
Bronze Member Username: ZulumonsterPureloveforall, Good person ... Lovernofighter Post Number: 34 Registered: Jun-08 | Thanks for the research you are all doing, let me know when you got her done BTW I did some soul searching after King laid a spanking on me and as a result have changed my ways, check out my new profile etc |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2825 Registered: Jan-08 | zulumonster Good new frofile my friend |
Gold Member Username: DoreenakadjOntario Canada Post Number: 1728 Registered: Dec-06 | I WAS NOT "SPAMMING" Plymouth I was just trying to help Little by providing the most info I could for reading up on CWP600. I wouldn't be so quick as to judge people and point an accusing finger at them after you almost crashed someone VS Extreme the other day with your "FIX-it" info for VS ULTRAS. I saved your rep then by warning the guy NOT to use your advice. Maybe if you spend more time reading than accusing others of doing things (WRONG) you might find some of my stuff HELP-FULL. I can btw take apart a receiver and put it back together . My father taught me how to play around with stereo's and TV equipment( he use to be a electrician, did it for a hobby tho) ... I thought myself how to FIX and take apart receivers and Computer and put them all back together too. SO GIVE ME SOME CREDIT WILL YA PLEASE> I am not a retard nor an idiot here. ANY INFO IS GOOD!!! |
Gold Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 1525 Registered: Jul-06 | just a thought the cw600p got cloning capability you can tack one cw600p that works and clone one that dont to work like the good one now im thinking can we try using the cw650s to clone are cw600p in to a cw650 with the program for cloning box to box i would of tried but sold my 650 yesterday to my buddy for 150 lol |
Bronze Member Username: ZulumonsterPureloveforall, Good person ... Lovernofighter Post Number: 35 Registered: Jun-08 | Dorren, you asked what you get if you come out with the fix for cw600 p, what you would win??? You win me you can have your way with me win or lose...pm me for directions to my house. |
Gold Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 1526 Registered: Jul-06 | i did not look and see if you can clone the 650 from box to box but will look tonight when he comes home if it dos have it i might try it |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2826 Registered: Jan-08 | Doreen Sorry if that chocking you. Just for say your post are too much bigger, but dont be worry with that. Sorry again |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2827 Registered: Jan-08 | Bruce 1 I have a 600S Premium, can you say if interface is the same as 650S |
Gold Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 1527 Registered: Jul-06 | every thing in the 650 is the same as the cw600p you open menu every thing is in same place ase cw600p all the seating are in the same place every thing looks the same all programs are in the same place when i open the menu its all the sam no difrence |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2828 Registered: Jan-08 | Thank Bruce I dont see why we cant load 650S bin in 600Premium. I just try it on next ECM. |
Gold Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 1528 Registered: Jul-06 | pymouth just tried to put cw650 bin on 107 loader and it wont let use load the bin file for the 650 in to loader for cw600p then i tryed to load the cw600p on loader for 650 nothing |
Bronze Member Username: ZulumonsterPureloveforall, Good person ... Lovernofighter Post Number: 36 Registered: Jun-08 | Sounds like you guys are making real progress, I am impressed!!!! Seriously! |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2829 Registered: Jan-08 | Maybe we will try to load with loader and bin for 650S. The loader test the file and it can rejected it, but with loader and factory bin that can work |
Gold Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 1529 Registered: Jul-06 | How to Clone(Transfer Data) CW800S. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How to Clone(Transfer Data) CW800S. Make sure both CW800S receivers are turned OFF useing the Rear Main Switch,on the back of the receiver.Disconnect all cables.Connect the Programmed receiver,to the receiver(Not Programmed)with a NULL MODEM Cable. 1-Turn the programmed receiver on,with the rear main switch,and let it boot all the way up,until you see a channel number in the LED of the receiver. Press the front ON/OFF button on the front of the receiver,or on the remote,now,you should see ----(This Is Standby Mode),on the LED of the receiver. 2-Now turn the (Not Programmed receiver on with the rear main switch,let it Boot all the way up,you shoud see (Start Up) in the LED of the (Not Programmed receiver. 3-Look at the Programmed Receiver,and you should see (H) blinking in the LED. 4-Now point the remote at the Programmed receiver,and enter 444,now you should see the Data Transfering in the LED,of both Receivers. 5-DO NOT Interfere with the Data transfer.When the Data Transfer is complete,You will see a Channel Number appear in the LED of the receiver,that (Received) the DATA. 6-Turn OFF both receivers,Useing the Main Rear Power Switch.Disconnect the NULL MODEM Cable. 7-Connect the T.V.,and LNB cables to receiver,and watch T.V. __________________ i no this is for the 800 the cw600p to get it to clone the number is 4444 if i rember right i think this might be the best way to go im going to send another one back for the 650 and try it i dont whant to turn buddys box in to a door stop and there is no how tos on the cw650 when to look 10.How to Clone CW600s Box to Box? ========================= From DigitalPlus: 1) Connect the master and slave box with twist RS232 null modem cable (pin2 to pin3, pin3 to pin2, pin5 to pin5). 2) Start the master receiver and press "POWER" key to make it standby "- - : - -". 3) Start the slave receiver, in the master box the led will display 'H' and blink it. 4) Input the password: 111 ---- Transfer S/W 222 ---- Transfer data 333 ---- Transfer data, then S/W 444 ---- Copy whole flash except Boot Loader. 5) After finishing inputting the password. Transfer will begin. When it finish, the LED will Display "-End". Disconnect the cable, start your receiver. Note: By the different password, you can do what ever you want to do for Box to Box. i think this will work but will haqve to wait till i get my new one |
Gold Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 1531 Registered: Jul-06 | started a thread at complete dot com got some interesting feed back last night here it is first one from CG If you are asking if you can clone your 600P to a 650 and the answer to that is NO, the 650 has a different chip in it and will not load all, and it will not work properly, so I advise against, and also you will void your warranty secend one from CG Like I said once you do you will not be able load it properly after that, it will never fully load as the chip will not allow it, and also once the clone kill bin is released then it is dead for good, so good luck, you can't say you were not for warned |
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 2830 Registered: Jan-08 | Thanks for the info Bruce If the chip is different "just to bad" |