Idea*Cast on Galaxy 16 at 99.0°W by "king T.M."

 

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Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2896
Registered: Oct-06
A friend of mine called me for help
Installing basic Galxy-25 on 97W
After so many attempts just couldn't get a signal level

At first I told him to try few things
Still no luck
He described few things which didn't make any sense
His receiver is unflashed but he swears he got ESPN
And no matter what he does no 97 level

Anyway I agreed to go over and check it myself
I assured him I get the signal in 5 minutes and walk away
Instead I spent over 2 hours on top the roof changing receivers LNBs etc.

Finally after few adjustments we got a Q signal no more than 54%
This really bothered me a lot
So I drove by his House and I found a long tower flashing red 1/2 mile away
No doubt it's communication tower at exact same pointing of 97W and his house hidden from behind the trees




2 things got my attention:
1- This is the first time I learn a communication tower can have an effect on satellite signal
2- Why would these channels be wide open on 99W


One part of the problem he was pointing to 99W when he got ESPN
Idea*Cast
CNN Airport Network PowerVu+ 1160 1120 E
MSNBC PowerVu+ 1260 1220 E
CNBC US PowerVu+ 1360 1320 E
ESPN US PowerVu+ 1460 1420 E
ESPN 2 PowerVu+ 1560 1520 E
ESPNews PowerVu+ 1660 1620 E

I saw it myself saying ESPN, ESPN Central, ESPN Chicago and ESPN News


Anyone got any information to share about PowerVu+ ?
I don't have a large dish or motor to check on Galaxy 16 at 99.0°W
TP 12189 V s/r 11765-5/6

Is it really open
Or was it just some weird tower interference!!!
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2670
Registered: Jan-08
King i think you take your dream for realty
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2671
Registered: Jan-08
KING its a joke


Yes you are right, i receive these 6 channels on my 33" motorized with Invacom QPH-031 LNB

Signal 77 Quality 50

Galaxie 4R/C 99.0W (Galaxie 16)

LNB type Universal
LNB High 10750
LNB low 10678
TP Freq 12189
DISEqC 1.0 Port 4 linear LNB
Motor USALS

Only 06-ESPNEWS give picture, with encryption, but i dont which .
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2672
Registered: Jan-08
I check on Lings. and this Tp is on PowerVu+.
Why we receive this encryption?

I just do some search on other Tp in PowerVu+ for know if its the only one.
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2673
Registered: Jan-08
King i found it on AMC 4 101W in PowerVu(not +)

12060 H
tp 18 The Hotel Networks DVB 26700-3/4 1-1


[test card] 1210 1200
MSNBC PowerVu 1 1160 1120 E
Tru TV PowerVu 2 1260 1220 E
Versus PowerVu 3 1360 1320 E
National Geographic Channel US PowerVu 4 1460 14.0 E
Fox News Channel PowerVu 5 1560 1520 E
The Weather Channel US PowerVu 6 1660 1620 E
CNBC US PowerVu 7 1760 1720 E
History Channel International PowerVu 8 1860 1820 E
The Biography Channel PowerVu 9 1960 1920 E
A&E East

All with only sound no picture

2 test channels work fine without encryption(test card)
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2674
Registered: Jan-08
On channel display where is write nagravision for DN and Bev it's write SA, i think for Seca encryption.

Is it possible then PowerVu+ is decoded by Seca?
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2897
Registered: Oct-06
PowerVu by SA
SA is for Scientific Atlanta

But yo confirmed what I was looking for
Thank yo
One of these days I'll get myself a motorized dish but it will be a C-band/Ku
I'm just witing to see what best size dish for what I'm looking for

Anyway
The ESPN and CNN even they were encrypted by PowerVu+ on 99W I think somehow by coinstance it was in clear
PowerVu, Seca and Irdeto much easier than Nagra I see on some sites entering simple keys

Well thanx again Plymouth
 

Gold Member
Username: Saqeeb9000

Post Number: 3421
Registered: Oct-07
i just feel like a newbee.......
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2675
Registered: Jan-08
KING
"I think somehow by coinstance it was in clear "
It's not in clear, "$" is on, But i dont know why we clearly receive it.

On PowerVu+ it's open on sound and video and on PowerVu(not +) only sound work.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mucho

Post Number: 364
Registered: Dec-07
King
Galaxy 16 @ 99.o*W has been as you say for a long time. There is no Tower
Interference. I get the same thing and there is no towers near where I live.
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2676
Registered: Jan-08
White Hawk
You dont give us new infos.

If you have some Channels on Some sats in Ku, maybe you can give info?
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2898
Registered: Oct-06
2 different things
- What I was saying about the communication tower is it made the signal difficult to get on 97W

- Somehow he was pointing to 99W and got ESPN is another thing

- What we are debating here is an encrypted program using PowerVu+ be in clear

I have had many people in the HD section saying they got digital cable straight to their TV tuner
(I haven't seen that happen to me)
but many people described the same and I know they can't be crazy
If they say some HD channels on cable came in clear maybe cuz it is

Cable TV also uses PowerVu+
So despite it shows $ meaning encryped
Somehow it's in clear
An operator's mistake

What Plymouth suggesting it is clear cuz it's decrypted
I say it's just coinstance
Maybe it's a promo
But it's a service for airport
We may never know
It just interesting how it happened that's all

I never meant the tower made it clear
It's just a joke like been sarcastic about the tower

But I do strongly believe now a communcation tower can make signal weaker
That I didn't know
And to make that conclusion I may have to try it again
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2682
Registered: Jan-08
King communication tower can scamble signal from satellite, created a signal distorsion on a length according to strength of tower.

I'm afflited then White Hawk cant give us more info.
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2905
Registered: Oct-06
Everyone got the right to ask
I still say communication tower can interfere with signal but won't scramble or descramble
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2699
Registered: Jan-08
Ooops maybe i dont use good word.

A frequency can be altered by another frequency by crossing wawe.

Better now
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2907
Registered: Oct-06

No

Interfere is like if yo drive at 60MPH on the highway and all the sudden too many bikes and people crossing

That doesn't alter the traffic but it slows its speed down
It interferes with the flow

In anycase
Many people don't want high communcation towers near their homes cuz it may cause cancer
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