Best Receiver on King's Scale

 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2721
Registered: Oct-06
I don't think yo can find one FTA receiver product and say it is the best receiver out there.
If yo say best receiver
Question is in terms of what?
Quality, Price, Service or what?
Most receivers out there are rip off anyway
Low quality and over priced

But I will point to yo One tip yo might find helpful in your search:

- Video resolution
What is video resolution?

Standard definition SD= 420i or 480p
For NTSC it is 720x480 video resolution

High definition HD=720p or 1080i (broadcast)
No broadcast at 1080p at present time
Only TV capable to upscale to 1080p
HD=1080x720p or 1920x1080i

i means interlaced
p means progressive scan
either i or p made of 60 frames per second each frame is
720x480 as SD (frame resolution)
1920x1080 as HD(frame resolution)

i cuz it's interlaced is equivalent of half the quality frame comparing to progressive scan
So yo can say i=30 frames per second
p=true 60 frames per second

Don't look too hard for any progressive scan FTA receivers out there
There isn't any progressive scan
And if there is it will say it loud and clear on its specs

Thank god to Digital cable (Interactive Optimum i/o)
I have it and I love it
True HD
I only pay $30 per month


Anyway
Most FTA receivers are not even 480i
In fact none of them say what the heck they are?


This is a receiver got my attention
I don't have this product yet
But I tell yo specs have it
It also has PVR capability for recording and playback on an external hard drive
USB with memory stick
Time shifting etc.
Universal remote control
Price about $130
http://www.inteltechnologyinc.com/products.htm

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If yo own this product please list your comments
If yo don't, buy and come back and tell me how do yo like it?

No doubt it is a price value and quality
Question is service?
A lot of FTA receivers out there are cloned to something else
As I read briefly on www-ftabins-net

I let yo do the search
But this is a great SD FTA Receiver
From electronics prospective according to specs

As far as HD
I still don't recommend any FTA receiver
A basic HD receiver with an 8PSK module that sells for $600 still not worth more than $200 on King's scale
They are still way over priced low quality

R. King T.M.
 

Gold Member
Username: Donnie1973

Post Number: 3000
Registered: May-06
u drunk king?
 

Gold Member
Username: Saqeeb9000

Post Number: 3294
Registered: Oct-07
well I never heard about this rec before oh well i think king is talking about true fta recevier again bold free to air)c, no premium etc right king..
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2243
Registered: Jan-08
King i have Vs Ultra on 61" tv and Cw600s premium on 28" tv and viewsat have a better quality picture and resolution(DVD quality if signal is capable)but sound poor

Both have good support
Visionsat have no support
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 15595
Registered: Jan-06
Visionsat receiver

it is getting popular, and the support has been very good...

This is their official manufacturer homesite..
http://www.inteltechnologyinc.com/home.htm


FAQ..
http://www.inteltechnologyinc.com/faq.htm

Loaders and factory files..
http://www.inteltechnologyinc.com/firmware.htm

Product Specs..IV 200 and IV 300
http://www.inteltechnologyinc.com/products.htm
 

Gold Member
Username: Way2smart

Www.Desifta.com

Post Number: 1599
Registered: Oct-06
nice looks is it iks??
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 10523
Registered: Jun-06
King:
I read with interest your right up.
You have not clearly justified to me Visionsat's superiority or clear advantage of owning one.
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2722
Registered: Oct-06
No I didn't justify
I started by saying no FTA receiver has it all

As one of many tips to look for (VIDEO RESOLUTION)
I wanted to focus on the Video resolution
This is one of the few recivers I see listing a 720x480 without hiding that info
usually when they hide it cuz it's less than 480 like 420 etc.
BTW 576 is PAL which we don't use in N. America
480 is for N. America

No does not have IKS
But I'm sure there is a way to convert a basic USB 2.0 to RJ 45 (about $8.00)
It's nothing but a basic ethernet converter
I doubt if the factory is the one that supports the service I think hackers simply cloned that receiver cuz of its better video quality

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This is the gemmick yo gotta watch out for
from the SV8000HD specs:
• Decodes All ATSC HDTV Standard Video Formats Including 576i / 576p / 720p / 1080i
• Down - convert HDTV to SDTV
• Selectable Output Video Format : 1080i / 720p / 480p / 480i


This tells yo what output format to interface with yor TV what it doesn't tell yo what video resolution it is
SO IT'S A GEMMICK
If it doesn't say what it is cuz they don't want yo to know
Trust me it's a piece of sh!t $200 at best way over priced
All it does is decode HD to an unknown resolution
So if yo pay $400 or $600
Yo are paying for 480p upscaled to 720 or 1080 Video output

So I used my own fill in the blank
Unless they need help from me to assist on writing the specs correctly

BTW
Best recommended HDTV by King
Is the Panasonic Plasma
and second choice is Sharp LCD
 

Gold Member
Username: Donnie1973

Post Number: 3003
Registered: May-06
I work with a guy that has this exact reciever. He likes it, but the guy he used for "updates" left town and I helped him find a file. I know the VS and Pansat (among others) were up a day after an ecm, i looked for his 2 days after and it wasnt out yet, but that has been a couple months ago. But it did take several days, almost till the next ecm before it came out. That could have been an isolated case. He has never said anything else about it. He likes the pvr, although he thought he could record to the usb stick.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Carburante

Post Number: 86
Registered: Jan-08
what about SPACESTAR, it has been up during the last 2 ecm?
what about coders support?
 

Gold Member
Username: Hawaiian_time

Kanaka freak...

Post Number: 1901
Registered: Apr-06
I would look at support first. Even if it does have support right now, how long will it last. No use having a receiver with a great quality picture if there's nothing to watch.
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2724
Registered: Oct-06
I personally think hackers take bin files from c00lsat or panssat and modify them to make it work for this Visionsat

But the unit is great
Yo can record on external USB drive 2.0
Yo can record on USB like an hour or 45 minutes
Or mainly for time shift

When I say time shift meaning yo can for an example watch American Idol 30 minutes late and zap those stupid commercials
Or watch sports game few minutes late and skip stopage commercials etc.

Just like TIVO
Keep in mind TIVO and DVRs are patent products
So what got my attention is the PVR which is different patent from DVR and TIVO is now capable to do TIME SHIFT and did it fair ans square without violating patent laws

I only cheer for the good play
And this is a good one by Visionsat

Great job Visionsat
Yo can now hope hackers adopt this for quality and performance and make it work for PTA
 

Bronze Member
Username: Carburante

Post Number: 87
Registered: Jan-08
i keep my CW-800s till new year to see what happens with this BS of rumors about nagra3. money cant be trown like that every time a new fta box comes out promising the sky nd de stars.
 

Gold Member
Username: Donnie1973

Post Number: 3005
Registered: May-06
i agree, i wouldnt reccomend anyone buying a new reicever now till we see what happens with N3. We may need a new reciever. who knows...
 

New member
Username: Bob8888

Post Number: 5
Registered: Mar-06
Files for the VisionSat are coded by the same group as C00lsat. The files come out slow for the C00lsat so they come out slow for the Visionsat.
The files are released at F2ATV.com
Why would anyone buy a receiver that isn't well supported?
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2725
Registered: Oct-06
If N3 gets hacked yo won't need new receiver
But I would bet it won't be as easy
DN and BEV are taking such a high toll this time around I don't think they are as stupid as yo might think

But I do strongly believe some other PTA will get in the zone


Bob8888
Thanx for your info
This is what share info is all about
"Why would anyone buy a receiver that isn't well supported?"

I'm not recommending one or the other
All I said this receiver got my attention
From electronics and performance
I also want to make it clear that it appeared to me a bounch of hackers took that model and make other bins compatible
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