Testing PUFF boot.

 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8854
Registered: Jun-06
I posted the following, but LK and her crowd could not stomach it that a simple person like me could actually test better than they can.

I went through the full process of loading the boot 60, then the jvvh_253_PUFF BIN (640k) and then the jvvh_254_PUFF and then my saved Channels.

I had to reset the date/time and do a set default keys to get the keys autorolling.
Everything is fine so far.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8855
Registered: Jun-06
After testing for at least 24 hours on two different 2500 clones I will report back.
In the meantime, I am NOT recommending it except to those who are real testers. To the testers, I will say this: The loading process, if followed properly, works.
 

Silver Member
Username: Newbiehater

FTAwhew what a stink

Post Number: 230
Registered: Feb-08
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TALK ABOUT EGO...

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Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8863
Registered: Jun-06
As of this morning, the PUFF boot - I used the jvvh version, has worked well with both jvvh_254_PUFF and with CS_254_PUFF.
Poeple wanting to change will have to accept that they will have to pre-choose the background.
In a way that would be a good thing, because then you will be able to load the latest BIN published by whosoever does it first and still retain your background.
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2546
Registered: Oct-06
Nalin
After midnight this morning
DN rolled Keys to cause boot issues
Using time delay and keys from previous roll
To make it very undetectable
I'm not sure on which receivers
Man whoever they hired lately is much better than me
 

Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 272
Registered: Aug-07
Where can a person gets the coreect and detailed steps for the onversion of the flu into PUFF??
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8866
Registered: Jun-06
I will put them out shortly. You can look at them at
[link removed]
The instructions by Chancy with the CS_254_puff BIN are more precise.
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2548
Registered: Oct-06
Nalin
I'm telling yo the truth
The second provider has many delyed codes
Causing boot issues
It just happened that yo did it at the same time as their delayed HexCodes
 

Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 274
Registered: Aug-07
Thanks Nalin
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8867
Registered: Jun-06
application/mswordUpload
INSTALLING PUFF BOOT AND BIN.doc (22.0 k)
 

Silver Member
Username: Newbiehater

FTAwhew what a stink

Post Number: 240
Registered: Feb-08
lmao...tottally dissed tapeworm and his dilusion's . it's friday, i'm sure the providers are up to something. lmao....king
 

Bronze Member
Username: Lotusbawa

Post Number: 24
Registered: Oct-07
Nalin: How do i save my channel list before i load a new bin. I have a converted 2500/FLU.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8870
Registered: Jun-06
Channel list software. Best one is Channel Master at:

http://www.sharpc.com

Use your straight RS232 cable but in the CM software tell it you have Pansat 2700 or 3500 (NOT 2500 or FLU)
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8872
Registered: Jun-06
For Pansat 2500/FLU new conversions and converted to 2700
Use only on unconverted 2500/FLU or converted receivers.
DO NOT USE ON Genuine Pansat 2700 or on Pansat 2700 clones

Everything you need for 2500/Flu to 2700 conversion in one package.
Instructions included. Either b75 or PUFF.

You must select whether you want to have the old b75 files or the new PUFF files.

Read the instructions properly in the section you have chosen.
PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT WITHOUT READING INSTRUCTIONS.


http://public.box.net/2500_full_kit
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8880
Registered: Jun-06
Puff boot (jvvh version) and now CS version of PUFF_254 BIN.

NO FREEZING AT ALL FOR HOURS. AUTOROLL IS OFF.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Det

Post Number: 64
Registered: Jan-08
i just downloaded channel master. how do i use it.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Det

Post Number: 65
Registered: Jan-08
im new to it. i need to know a list of directions of how to use it and how to get a channel list or whatever.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8881
Registered: Jun-06
You have to create your channels list by doing a Blind scan and then editing it under CM. CM has extensive instructions on their site.
You keep on modifiying and reusing for 4 to 6 months and then do another scan.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14325
Registered: Jan-06
From FWANK7 to all:

"First of all I have to thank Jvvh for always looking ahead of the game and for all he has done for us FLU/2500 reciever owner's.We all should be very happy and realize how lucky we are to have Jvvh on our side.

The conversion bins we have now are running out of code space room.Jvvh has for a bit now has this new style of conversion bins he calls PUFF.

With PUFF the BG (back ground) is put into the boot section freeing up the bytes that the BG takes up in the actual bin code itself.This new style also allows us to go a little bigger in bin size if needed to be. I believe it's from 448 kb to 512 kb maybe even a bit bigger then that maybe Jvvh will confirm the actual size we can go.

With this New PUFF style bin you will need to convert back to 2500 using just the boot60 bin.
As you have knight rider lights load the New PUFF 640 kb bin one time to get you converted to PUFF.
This is the easiest way we have found to do it so far.

Jvvh wanted something to show the peps when changing to PUFF that they will know that they have changed.
So Ukronic came up with a new display on your reciever display screen that will show this.
Once converted to PUFF your reciever display at start up will go from b 7 5, b 7 5 to P U F F , P U F F. Pause on F for 30 seconds then come ON.

You can NOT load a normal b75 compressed 448 kb conversion bin to your reciever afterwards and it must be a new PUFF conversion 448 kb bin.

You can NOT load a 448 kb PUFF conversion bin over the b75 conversion bins either, you must convert using PUFF 640 kb conversion bin first in order to load a New PUFF 448 kb conversion bin.

For now who's ever PUFF 640 kb conversion bin you put on your reciever to convert to PUFF will be the BG you will have embedded into boot section of your reciever. Don't worry Jvvh says we need to come up with tools to allow you to change BG but that will be in do time.

If you use my PUFF 640 kb conversion bin to convert to PUFF, Yes you can use other PUFF 448 kb conversion bins done by others afterwards but it must be PUFF style. NO you will NOT just have to use my PUFF 448 kb conversion bins.

It will just keep my BG on your reciever thats all. Again the BG you will be able to change in do time.

I have my PUFF 640 kb bin done already (Thanks to Ukronic) and it is a 253 bin so it is up and running. Just wanted to test it out first before I start releasing it to the public.

:shock: Everyone will need to eventually change to the PUFF style bins but I will post both sets to give peps the time to convert over to PUFF but again you will have to eventually do it.

Want to give HUGE THANKS to Jvvh for always looking out and passing his knowledge on to us. "You are truly the man Jvvh5897"

Special THANKS to Ukronic for helping me understand and helping me out time and time again.If it wasn't for Ukronic as well, I wouldn't know most of the things I know now."

:shock: Everyone will need to eventually change to the PUFF style bins but I will post both sets to give peps the time to convert over to PUFF but again you will have to eventually do it.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8885
Registered: Jun-06
Ignore the C/P and just continue using what you have been usaing. Change when you feel like.

LK does not have a conversion receiver and he calls them Pancraps with great derision.
 

New member
Username: Tilu

Canada

Post Number: 6
Registered: Mar-06
Nalin: Should I covert my converted FLU to Puff now or wait for few days?
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8888
Registered: Jun-06
tilu - wait for a few days if your B75 based BIN is working fine as it should. I guarantee there will be minor changes in the PUFF BOOT.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Solex98

Northwest, WA United States

Post Number: 14
Registered: Dec-07
I still don't get it?!!? What is the purpose of this PUFF stuff? All converted FLU/2500 are working fine with all the new releases (JVVH or Frank)
".With PUFF the BG (back ground) is put into the boot section freeing up the bytes that the BG takes up in the actual bin code itself. This new style also allows us to go a little bigger in bin size if needed to be. I believe it's from 448 kb to 512 kb maybe even a bit bigger then that maybe Jvvh will confirm the actual size we can go."
OK! I accept that by embedding the background into the boot file we free some 60 kb, but for what purpose? Are the PUFF bins going to use the extra code space to do what to the bin/box? This is a question that if you Nalin can answer will bring some light into the issue. Let me make myself clear once again: The conversion procedure is not a question. The question is the purpose of the conversion and the real benefits of it. Any one with knowledge is welcomed.
 

Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 275
Registered: Aug-07
I followed the instructions for converting Flu into PUFF and now my 2500 is PUFF. I downloaded the most recent bin 254(2)that was posted today 3/7/08. The receiver works fine and the channels downloading was very fast. It has been working for 2 hrs without problems. Thanks Nalin
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8893
Registered: Jun-06
We start by stating that already there is not enough room for a 2700 BIN to live inside a 2500 or FLU. So they squeeze it and just mange to get it in. Those guys called DN and BEV keep on putting more ECMs which requires more coding and BL (of Pansat0 creates new BINs for the 2700 to counter these ECMs. At some point, in spite of the compression there may not be enough room.
The PUFF boot anticipates the space needs and is freeing up 50K or so for future space requirements. For the modifiers the removal of the background from the BIN area to the BIN area was the easiest thing to do.
Ideally a better rewrite of code would free up as much as 100K and improve performance, but that is expensive in highly paid coder's time.
 

Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 276
Registered: Aug-07
My new PUFF has been working perfectly for the past 3hrs. I think that it will continue without problems.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14330
Registered: Jan-06
would U trust a person who 2 days ago knew absolutely nothing aboutthis, until I educated her...and now talks like she has some technical inside info...what a LOSER!

Nalin Nyda
Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8666
Registered: Jun-06
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 06:50 pm:

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It is an amateur's effort at creating a brand loyalty.
He has taken the Pansat 2700 BIN, used all thE information that jvvh and Fwank7 have put out and created his own thing with its built in cuff branded clone killer.


DO NOT CONVERT TO PUFF.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR IT.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8897
Registered: Jun-06
Testing so far has shown that the PUFF boot is working well. That is called science.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Old_bin

Post Number: 17
Registered: Oct-07
Hi Nalin, I flash the boot60 on my flu and i download puff bin,
Now i have a problem.
The horizontal night riders light keep on running last 30 min.
How do i go back to old setting?
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8915
Registered: Jun-06
Start all over again with boot 60 load.

Read the instructions properly in the section

PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT WITHOUT READING INSTRUCTIONS.


http://public.box.net/2500_full_kit
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8916
Registered: Jun-06
Make sure you load the jvvh or CS _PUFF_253 which is 640 K, before loading the 254 BIN.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Old_bin

Post Number: 18
Registered: Oct-07
I got it! Thank Nalin!
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