Are the providers going nagra 3

 

Bronze Member
Username: Thetaffey

Post Number: 18
Registered: Feb-08
Are they, Dik and Charley? and when, will our coders be able to crack this?
 

Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 248
Registered: Aug-07
there are talks that they will go N3 and if it happened you should expect black TV screen for several weeks
 

Silver Member
Username: Smoke74

Post Number: 136
Registered: Oct-07
dik and charlie are one in the same
 

Silver Member
Username: Madflea168

Post Number: 290
Registered: Jan-08
the last time from n1 to n2 was down for about whole summer.
 

Gold Member
Username: Kirankumar

Kenya

Post Number: 1772
Registered: Oct-07
it won't be that bad because n3 has been in Europe for a while and the coders know how it works,would be back up in a week first time round
relax and enjoy what you have while you have it
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2468
Registered: Oct-06
N3 is not like N2 or N1 by miles
Don't believe what yo hear
I always believe what I see before what I hear

The arrivals of N3 will mark the end of PTA
Is what I always been writing about
If it does get cracked it will be ON and OFF frustrating PTA users

However
I strongly believe
Hackers will move on to a much easier target
Like Dave V-Guard
or D-Cypher for Star*choice and Hits

Hits is American 99.0°W Galaxy 16 & 101.0°W AMC 4 & 105.0°W AMC 18
Star*choice is Canadian 107.3°W Anik F1R & 111.1°W Anik F2
D-Cypher will be 2 birds with one stone
No International Channels

Dave Standard Definitions will get U:
International 95°W Galaxy 3C
Regular Broadcast on 101.0°W DirecTV 4S/8
119.0°W DirecTV 7S
NO CHANCE FOR DAVE HD FOR AT LEAST 2 YEARS
If it does get cracked yo might only use HD receivers for SD channels (HD FTA receivers) when I say might it means may or may not work
Or perhaps plastic card programming once again

I really don't know what's gonna happen
This why I end with a question mark
?
 

Silver Member
Username: One_eye_jack

Post Number: 441
Registered: Nov-07

Nagravision 3 is here
Check it out at Bell ExpressVu Nimiq 1 @ 91.o*W
and Hispasat 1C/1D @30.o*W
 

Bronze Member
Username: Ncx

Post Number: 85
Registered: Dec-07
The sky is falling again! Run chicken little run!
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2469
Registered: Oct-06
N3 for Hisapsat 30W is for Europe
Also hispasat got many FTA channels for US

N3 has been tested since Summer of 2007 on 77W
In which yo said not true
N3 is already on a second stream
for all birds like:
61.5, 110, 118, 119, 129, 105, 148, 82 and 91
Awaiting for providers to upgrade

What planet do yo come from dude?
Yo just proved that yo don't know sh*it about FTA
Keep reading my threads
Sooner or later yo might pickup

I don't normally bash at any member
But since yo always start the bash
I figure can teach yo a thing or two about satellites
But I like yo, yo pickup quick
 

Silver Member
Username: One_eye_jack

Post Number: 442
Registered: Nov-07
King
1) You said a mouth full, don't believe what you hear.

2) The arrival of N3 will be the end of FTA
and if it does get cracked, it will be ON and OFF frustrating the FTA users.
Where have you been the last two months?
Converted Pansat started with Bin 218 now is 253.
People will wait since it's all Free and
having fun.

King is it fair to say since you have nothing to back this up, it's only your opinion.
Well you know what they say about opinions they
are like asswholes everybody has one.

BTW you said all that to say WHAT?

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Bronze Member
Username: Bangle

Post Number: 27
Registered: Jan-08
yo' all poets ??
 

Silver Member
Username: Ndn3

Post Number: 163
Registered: Dec-07
Hey guys,
Relax, nothing is going to happen... enjoy, what you've right now...

Glass is half full...
 

Bronze Member
Username: Bangle

Post Number: 28
Registered: Jan-08
If the dicky and Beverly going Nagra 3 , when will it be implemented, as best guesses from you guys ???
 

Gold Member
Username: Hawaiian_time

Kanaka freak...

Post Number: 1838
Registered: Apr-06
Well, it will take months for a card swap for subscribers to be completed. People say it's already starting. When a card swap starts, there should be info on the Dishnet channels.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14017
Registered: Jan-06
Bev has startd a card swap, and changing the Rom...not DN..

where is all this N3 rumors coming from?....

I think people are mixing apples and oranges...and think just cause Bev has a card swap, that N3 is coming...and means DN is also gonna do a swap......sounds like an Irish stew, take whatever ya got and throw in the pot and end up with something new and different...
 

Silver Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 378
Registered: Jan-08
look this : http://www.lyngsat*com/nimiq1.html
 

Silver Member
Username: North_of_ontario

Post Number: 534
Registered: Sep-07
we're toast .

c&p

"New Bev card is rumored to be the ROM240 and will NOT be st19 processor based, so no current technology we have now will be useful against this card. IMO, this will not be like the time period that we had to wait for the N1 to N2, but I have no doubt that, like its predecessors, it will eventually be compromised.

The ROM206 is already dumped, which is probably why the providers had to go to NagraVision for something newer for an impending swap. NagraVision, BTW, just acquired a chip fabrication facility which is even more worrisome, they can now do their own proprietary hardware and code.


From what I have read, the SW (S0x) cards scan the eeprom on boot up. If any modifications are detected then the card does not boot. Doesnt sound promising at all heh. Can only imagine what the Rom 240 has in store."

.
 

Silver Member
Username: Daneegha

Post Number: 101
Registered: Oct-06
I see also all dik sats showing N2 and N3.
It's possible that there will be a change, but for now I enjoy what I have. Lets have our coders figure it out when time arrives.
 

Silver Member
Username: Birdwatcher

Post Number: 700
Registered: Jul-06
I think all you people, especially the goldmembers should shut the f.uck up because you really dont know what the f.uck is going on with these sats. You only know how to download programs files and put them into your stb,s. You really dont know what dick or bev are up to unless you work on their teams. All of you need to stop acting like geniuses and just watch tv.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14018
Registered: Jan-06
aaah..lyngsat is the source....says its using N2 and N3 for all Bev and Dik sats NOW...I ain't buying it myself...maybe Bev, for now , running both with a swap...but not DN....time will tell...and if/when it all goes N3, the Europeans always figure it out, since they have it years before us to "practice" on....
 

Gold Member
Username: Rtap

FL

Post Number: 1921
Registered: Jan-07
lol.the sky is about to fall run for the hills lmao

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Silver Member
Username: One_eye_jack

Post Number: 447
Registered: Nov-07
The best thing that can happen to ecoustics when
they send the man to pickup this nut up. He is no good for business, he is scaring all of new customers away, I don't think Mr. Mitchell will be very happy when the news get to him.

King Tapeman has been here over a year and talks about end to PTA but we are still here with our beloved hobby and needless to say still watching FTA TV
I would say for the good of our forum and ecoustics has NO choice but to Ban this SOB.
He has cause enough trouble. He has serve no purpose here.
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2470
Registered: Oct-06
Hey LK
Trust me
DN was testing N3 on 77W for over 6 months now
Now N3 on all their parallel streams every single satellite

3 Possibilities
- Card reprogram
- Card swap
- Complete system change

BEV always first cuz they only got 2or3 Sats DN got about 7or8
But it's all same thing
Dikky has a May 17th 2008 Summit
I strongly believe is when they'll announce it
N3 is what will be used on both

Hey Yukon how did yo know my last name is Mitchell?
Yo are a noob here and can't comprehend what I say
I say yo listen quietly and learn
 

Silver Member
Username: One_eye_jack

Post Number: 450
Registered: Nov-07
Yes I do comprehend one thing you are a fuccking
bullshitter, a liar and a nut and more.
 

Silver Member
Username: Borinick

Post Number: 319
Registered: Mar-07
Well you know they have the money to it and every body knows they got system its only time. Don't think they have studied the coders the way they work. If i own a big company i would like to protect it from any one.
 

Silver Member
Username: Lol

Post Number: 396
Registered: Sep-06
Gee King Tapeman ......after being called fuccking
bullshitter, a liar and a nut and more.

I wouldnt ever come back here again
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2471
Registered: Oct-06
And yo are a poopie head

Did yo do your homework dude?
I hear yo mama in the background
Screaming...get off the computer and do yo homework?
Yo got school tomorrow dude?
She wants yo in bed by 9:00pm
Got that?
What are yo 9th or 10th grade?
 

Silver Member
Username: Lol

Post Number: 397
Registered: Sep-06
he didnt take the Hint :-(
 

Gold Member
Username: Hawaiian_time

Kanaka freak...

Post Number: 1839
Registered: Apr-06
You have tv right now. Enjoy it!

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Gold Member
Username: Runnerguy

Pluto

Post Number: 1268
Registered: Sep-06
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wMD7Ezp3gWc
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14022
Registered: Jan-06
Good advice hawaiian...Enjoy what U have...cause U can't change the future , at least not here at ecoustics...

Take whatever comes, cause U can't stop it...and no sense worrying or arguing about it..
 

Bronze Member
Username: Eurick_hunt

Post Number: 35
Registered: Jun-06
LOL this is almost like the end of the world that was speculated when the nag 2 swap took place. Everyone was on edge and thought the end of fta was inevitable.

Even so, lets say that Nag 3 came along and toasted our hobby. Big fricken deal. What does this hobby owe any of us? That is 99% of the problem right now is that most that purchase an fta have no f*cking idea what this whole hobby means. They figure they can toss down a couple hundred bucks and they will have the world handed to them on a silver platter. Just look back at some of the posts between fixes. Its pretty damn retarded the way some act.

I get a kick out of this forum sometimes because really, it is pretty comical.The people who actually know what is going on get treated like sh*t and the ones throwing the BS around are the ones that have no clue what the hell is going on...except that they have a blank screen when the FTA's go down.

Maybe if people like LK, Tape, Nay were listened to a little closer than maybe some would learn a little more.

Like its been mentioned a few times in this thread, just chill out, relax and enjoy it while its available and if we have it down the road we do and if we don't big f*cking deal...go outside and enjoy what life has to offer.

I don't often post here but sometimes i just read some of these threads and shake my head.

LK..Tapeman...thanks for all your input. You sure have helped me understand a few things since i discovered ecoustics. As far as most of these others go....we won't have to worry about any of them being returning champion on Jeopardy.
 

Silver Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 380
Registered: Jan-08
King please check this i receive with linear Venus 0 to 10 on this frequency
6652 20000 H 7/8 on 91W but autoroll maybe n3 test
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2472
Registered: Oct-06
Well
Thanx Mr. Hunt
Good people like yo listen more than they talk
They learn a great deal

Unlike many clowns here talk and talk
And they ain't got the slightest clue
And will never learn until their screen is black

Great to have yo here
 

Bronze Member
Username: Eurick_hunt

Post Number: 36
Registered: Jun-06
My pleasure Tapeman. Been following your progress on the phone deal too. Looking forward to the 4th
 

Bronze Member
Username: Mucho

Post Number: 78
Registered: Dec-07
Hey Hunt
You have been here over a year with a post number of (35) never have seen you help anyone.
Now tell me how in the hell can you judge who is who? all we need here another smart fuckhead.
 

Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 249
Registered: Aug-07
LK, can you tell if N3 will reqiure much more memory than the one currently provided by FTA receivers?
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2476
Registered: Oct-06
Every upgrade require more need of memory
But I'm not sure what capacity are yo looking for
 

Bronze Member
Username: Eurick_hunt

Post Number: 37
Registered: Jun-06
LOL @ Nalin. Who crapped in your corn flakes. Read the post numbnuts I praised you for your input as well (Nay). But if you wanna get into a battle of wits lets get it on.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14029
Registered: Jan-06
kaka...honestly I don't know, ...nobody will know til everyone gets to see it more...memory size may be the least of the problems..I wouldn't concern myself with that at this point..
 

Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 250
Registered: Aug-07
LK, can the current FTA receivers take N3, what is the major problem with N3 that FTA recivers may face beside everything you mentioned?
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2477
Registered: Oct-06
Yo are asking LK on how to solve a problem before it even becomes one

If it makes yo feel better
N3 is specificly targeting FTA receivers so yo wouldn't get free service
Meaning to completly disable it from pay service
Totally black screen to DN and BEV
I hope this helps answering your question now
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8602
Registered: Jun-06
It is aquite clear to me form th eabove discussion, that
1. Nagra 3 is in the stream from many of the DN sats as well as implemented on BEV.
2. Card Swap has started at BEV.
3. I don't think DN guys are stupid to test if they did not intend to implement it.
4. Total Card swap takes time and money.
5. Nagra has acquired a chip making factory - so what? They are cheaper by the dozen all over th world.
6. The important thing somebody said in this thread was the fact that the worst case scenario is inquiry to eprom at boot up time. This really makes me laugh. Either the Eprom is removable for easy swap of Eproms, in which case, every school boy genius will be attempting to decipher, or the eprom is not removable, in which case, once it is deciphered and solution achieved by hackers, it would be too costly for the providers to change receivers.
7. A new Processor - so what? Has anybody heard of translations and translation tables? There is software to translate languages. That is a far more complex achievement compared to translating code. Hex code translation through a table is a schoolboy's homework exercise.
8. Don't you know that people invented C language specifically to be processor independent.

King: I agree with much of the details you have put out, but I do not see the end of PTA - just the beginning of an exciting tug-of-war, where the masses will win.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8604
Registered: Jun-06
Also, I think you are grossly underestimating the power and the facilities of a plethora of software that has been developed. Look at
www.sourceforge.net
and you will get some idea of the enormous amount of freeware that is available to every schoolboy.
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2479
Registered: Oct-06
Nalin
No company on earth can stop PTA ever
No body will ever take away PTA
PTA will never be on life support
PTA will only see waves of transitions
i.e. changes
PTA will never die

But the truth is
Our only source of PTA is N2
And soon this is about to change
N3 will mark the end of current PTA
That's all I'm saying


And I know there will be other stuff for our new PTA
I just don't know what it is

Again I'm being one step ahead like usual
in my post#2468 I predicted what it might be
I'm also going to show everyone how to get C-band on 1 meter dish
I'm just taking satellites to an entirely different level
I will also show everyone how to do FTA phone calls
I just can't break the law

But other things will mark its new begining
So sit back and enjoy the ride
Yo ain't seen any thing yet
The best is yet to come
 

Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 251
Registered: Aug-07
If N3 already exists in europe, what happened to PTA receivers there? did they stop working or they cracked N3 and now working again? I am just curious and do not be pissed off. It is a good education.Thanks
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8616
Registered: Jun-06
King Tapeman has info, Unasailable info it is,
He has his tools, To gather what he gives.

No quarrel with you, our King, supreme art thou,
Info you have in plenty, I wow.

Info is not Knowledge, I cry and shout
Conclusion based on Wisdom, Is the best way out.

Study and logic you need, To be able to conclude,
Of course, in the process, The knowledge acquired you include.
 

Silver Member
Username: Birdwatcher

Post Number: 702
Registered: Jul-06
Bullshitters please shut the fcuck up and watch some tv.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8618
Registered: Jun-06
davidvandiesel :
Nobody asked you to read this or comment on it. If you have nothing to contribute then keep quiet and quit.
 

Silver Member
Username: One_eye_jack

Post Number: 451
Registered: Nov-07
King
What did you say yesterday?let me hear that again. Did it go something like this:

King Tapeman
Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD , NY

Post Number: 2468
Registered: Oct-06
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 09:23 am:

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N3 is not like N2 or N1 by miles
Don't believe what yo hear
I always believe what I see before what I hear

The arrivals of N3 will mark the end of PTA
Is what I always been writing about
If it does get cracked it will be ON and OFF frustrating PTA users

Well the arrival of N3 is here, FTA is still here and sorry to say that you are still here.

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Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2481
Registered: Oct-06

Well the arrival of N3 is here, FTA is still here and sorry to say that you are still here.


Yukon
I have nothing to say to yo except yo ain't got a clue about what I got up there
Ask LK or Nalin
Or anyone who knows FTA
Your wires are all crossed
Just find a swamp and through yourself...just let go
Yo won't feel the pain...I promise
I don't have time for freshmen anymore
 

Silver Member
Username: One_eye_jack

Post Number: 453
Registered: Nov-07
Did you mean through yourself or throw yourself.
What is the matter King am I getting to you

BTW you are right,I don't know much about FTA but I do know enough to show what a phony you are.
 

Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 252
Registered: Aug-07
that what I wrote before and no one answer my questions. If PTA receivers still working in europe even with the implementation of N3 then we shouldnt worry.

karkour kaka
Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 251
Registered: Aug-07
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 12:32 pm:

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If N3 already exists in europe, what happened to PTA receivers there? did they stop working or they cracked N3 and now working again? I am just curious and do not be pissed off. It is a good education.Thanks
 

Silver Member
Username: One_eye_jack

Post Number: 454
Registered: Nov-07
Kaka a very good question I am sure King is working on it, don't worry about his answer ,I got my good eye on him.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8629
Registered: Jun-06
http://www.pirateaccess.com/Software-Nagra-3--Tv-Cabo-full-download-torrent-crac k-serial-rapidshare-megaupload.html

Results for Software Nagra 3 Tv...SpeedDownloads
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Software Nagra 3 Tv Cabo Full Version* 1777KB/s666 Times
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Software Nagra 3 Tv Cabo ISO* 916KB/s894 Times
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8631
Registered: Jun-06
http://www.sat-universe.com/showthread.php?t=50660

C/P
TVCabo Nagra 3 cards hacked. Confirmed.
Maybe not a full hack but can confirm Cabo nagra 3 (Rom142) moscs cards exit and I confirm that. OK.

New mosc cards may not have a guarantee that they will work for more than 60 days due to a change in the way cabo now updates it's package. In fact there is no guarantee how long they will last as they have not completed the change over and there could be a revision update around the Conner for the new cards or some secret function that has not been activated yet. So not a full hack. Just a hack that at the moment gives you access to all cabo channels including Video on Demand.

Rumour has it and its 99% sure. Well 99% sure not 100% that new EMU with AU for nagra 3 on cabo. But don't get your hopes to high as this maybe just for the current receivers that work with cabo cards.

FACTS:
Non official receivers that so far work with nagravision 3 original or mosc cards with new firmware.

Mirage models: sft-2000, sci-5110 and 8000 (Complex method but works).
AZbox models: S710 - GA, S710 - GB, ST710 - GA and ST710 - GB.
Mvision 9085 net and USB models. (Bought one over the weekend)
 

Silver Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 253
Registered: Aug-07
Thank you Nalin for good info you provided, keep the good work and new updates about the subject.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Memece3

Post Number: 43
Registered: Dec-07
How can you guys sit here and say for sure that coders will figure it out for sure. If that is the case, then why can't people get direct tv anymore?
They stopped it and so will the others eventually, you have to know that. It will go down for good one day, it will happen, you can bank on it! I just hope we might have the rest of this year if we're lucky and I can get more out the cost of equipment I have already laid out. But I haven't put any money into it for more than 1 1/2 years and won't unless I hear better news next year. Anybody that buys anything right now are taking a huge risk. I see all these people spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on the HD stuff and their all going to take a bath with it...Good Luck!
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8635
Registered: Jun-06
"How can you guys sit here and say for sure that coders will figure it out"

Actually I said, they have already figured it out
 

Bronze Member
Username: Tstdrivr

U.S.A.

Post Number: 48
Registered: Dec-07
if you can get 8 months of tv 4 or 5 UFC fights and all the crap movies you can stomach in that time the cost is justified. i think. at least thats the line I told the old lady so i can get a new HD STB. lol
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingofdakingz

Post Number: 178
Registered: Jun-06
i agree with hunt that tape nalin plymouth and lk had helped us a not but people who are new here when they take advantage of their help then then come here and tries to be smart like they run fta i would say one thing to all the ppl who tries to be smart as here that stay in ur mothafckn limit
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14075
Registered: Jan-06
King...U always write PTA...what the hell is PTA?...Parents Teachers Association?...lol

FTA is Free To Air, so whats PTA?
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2483
Registered: Oct-06
Ok Nalin
Call Dikky tell him the $45 Million upgrade for Nagra3 is cracked before it hits North America he is about to get duped once again.

I tell everyone once again
Don't believe everything yo hear
Believe everything yo see first
Since yo'll always see things I say at later time

Believe me guys when I say I don't have inside information
I don't spy on people I'm not a rat
I pay attention to details
I look closely for small clues
I talk a lot
But I think 100 times more than I talk

And when I talk...yo should listen and listen carefuly
Any electronics security can be broken
With do all respect to current coders' team
But this Nagra3 won't be broken as fast as yo think
That's my bottom line
 

Silver Member
Username: Jayson

Post Number: 169
Registered: Aug-06
I say it is Pirate Television Association.........

King, let's wait till May 17, 2008 to see for sure who's telling the truth......
 

Silver Member
Username: One_eye_jack

Post Number: 461
Registered: Nov-07
There is no way to relate to a crazy person.
Even the America Indian savages wouldn't
bother with a crazy man.

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Bronze Member
Username: Rtf

Canada

Post Number: 33
Registered: Aug-07
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