What is DN repointing kit
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Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 1848 Registered: Oct-07 | ? |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 7718 Registered: Jun-06 | Sada - when you were asking about 118.7, this was posted. To get to 118.7W from your current 121 setup, you can do it manually using a Universal LNB for $25 or you can get a repointing kit for DN - I think they charge about $ 100, but I could be wrong. The 121 is reduced in internationals and these are moving or moved to 118.7 |
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Gold Member Username: Cartier1Post Number: 1712 Registered: Feb-07 | http://www.satsig.net/maps/satellite-tv-dish-pointing-usa.htm do it yourself it's easy . this is the link that may help. |
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Silver Member Username: Madflea168Post Number: 155 Registered: Jan-08 | they cost about $90~110 varies includes shipping, I installed one on my super d, I ain't sure if the generic will work on mine. was a bit tricky to tune in, minor adjustment to the antenna may needed. |
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Silver Member Username: One_eye_jackPost Number: 290 Registered: Nov-07 | Repoint Kit Has actually two lnbs inside with two outputs, one for 118.8 and one for 119  |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 7724 Registered: Jun-06 | Yokon: Are there two outputs for each of two receivers? The Universal LNBs designed specifically for 118.7/119 give you these two sats for two receivers. |
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Silver Member Username: Madflea168Post Number: 160 Registered: Jan-08 | the big one is 118/119, each has its own output, the individual is 110, the one I had just like the one in the pic, has only one output, will need a switch for more receivers. thought I saw somewhere with two outputs on 110 when I google. worked on my dp34 with vs, just need to have adapter to give more power to the switch, vs can't supply enough juice. |
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Bronze Member Username: MaullaPost Number: 21 Registered: Oct-04 | I have a 30" Dish with a Universal LNB pointed at 121. Can I just move the dish a bit towards 119 and receive both 119 and 118 channels? |
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Silver Member Username: One_eye_jackPost Number: 293 Registered: Nov-07 | Nalin,To answer your question YES This Repoint Kit was designed for Dish Network in mind to work with their Receivers and their Dish 500+ I just posted the picture to show what this Repoint Kit looks like. I have never own one , never tested one, never seen one,and don't want one.  |
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Gold Member Username: KirankumarKenya Post Number: 1167 Registered: Oct-07 | maulla you might need a new lnb |
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Bronze Member Username: MaullaPost Number: 22 Registered: Oct-04 | What LNB do you recommend? African |
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Silver Member Username: One_eye_jackPost Number: 294 Registered: Nov-07 | Maulla Do not move your Dish,just replace your 119 LNB with this LNB 118° (Circular 10750) dual LNB $23.95 Ku Band DSS Dual Output LNB for 118.7 118.8 & 119  |
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Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 1859 Registered: Oct-07 | thanks guys for all your input i think i have cirular lnb but no 2 inputs..whats a purpose of two inputs.. |
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Silver Member Username: VittuPost Number: 131 Registered: Oct-07 | I have this repoint kit($105 including shippimg from ebay). The fact I don't like it because it's not dual. I can only use it with 1 dish receiver unless I buy a DP44. I have both dish receivers and FTA. I had to setup another dish to get missing birds. |
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New member Username: Adam2436Post Number: 9 Registered: Mar-07 | Confirmed: Repoint kit only has one output for each satellite (total of three) - translated to that you have to have DP34 or DP44 to support multiple receivers, plus, they are not cheap and may give FTA box power trouble. Ku Band Circular LNB comes out in single or dual. The Dual LNB, with two outputs for two polarities, can combine with standard multiswitch to handle multiple satellite/receiver situation. |
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Silver Member Username: Impala1977Post Number: 189 Registered: Apr-06 | when you say standard multiswitch, do you mean diseq? |
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New member Username: Adam2436Post Number: 10 Registered: Mar-07 | No. Standard multiswitches is for standard/legacy LNB, in forms of 3x4, 4x4, 6x4, etc, with tonal control of 22khz on/off and voltage control of 13v/18v etc. The DiSEqC come with your STB usually only has one output. Someone may say DP34/DP44 are also DiSEqC but that's not people normally mean (they are much more expensive). |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2284 Registered: Oct-06 | Another great photo Yukon Great job Let me add few things about repoint kit: - The Repoint Kit allows to convert the SuperDISH to a Dish 500 Plus. - The Repoint Kit is for receiving satellites 110, 118.7 and 119 orbital locations. - The Repoint Kit usually comes with a bracket along with the screws to convert to Dish 1000 Plus. - The Dish 1000 Plus is for receiving satellites 110, 118.7, 119 and 129 orbital locations, however an additional Dish Pro Single or Dish Pro Dual LNBF is required.  Reference Last year Timed and dated https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=1006746#POST1006746 |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2285 Registered: Oct-06 | This is what the kit looks like C/P from Yukon  |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 7734 Registered: Jun-06 | For FTA receiver users, it is better to go for the cheaper solution and not buy a repoint kit. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2286 Registered: Oct-06 | Great point Nalin A Universal Circular LNB or Invacom LNB for 118.7/119 is best recommended solution for FTA receivers Repoint Kit is mainly for legit subscribers To convert Dish to 500Plus or 1000Plus Also if anyone got an old Phase II DTV Yo can turn it into a dish 500Plus or 1000Plus by adding a Universal Circular LNB in the middle  - To receive 110/118.7/119 For Sure - With skilled pointing and perfect skew yo can get 110/118.7/119/129 - 4-input DISEqC switch (only 2 will be used) - 1-input for 110/129 the other input for 118/119 - This means an additional 97 can be used with an additional 30" dish on one of the other 2 input DISEqC I never tried it But I assure it will work  |
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Silver Member Username: The_messengerPost Number: 103 Registered: Oct-07 | Reference Last year Timed and dated https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=1006746#POST1006746 Mr. King I hate to tell you this,but it is not the same. Last year AMC 16 was located @ 118.8. Did not have this repoint kit. Did not have the channels that are now relocated from Echo 9 @ 121. At that time last year when you posted the info. here is what your BUD LK had to say. LK Gold Member Username: Lklives Post Number: 7139 Registered: Jan-06 Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 11:03 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 118.7 info...posted last June!...king, U're a little late...LOL https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=723993#MT |
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Silver Member Username: The_messengerPost Number: 104 Registered: Oct-07 | It's designed especially for catching 119 & 118.7 (Anik F3) at the same time using one such LNB. Each Output gives signal from both satellites. US$23.99 Circular Dual LNB for both 119 and 118.8°W  |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 7737 Registered: Jun-06 | It really does not matter at this point what channels there are on Anik3, and what sat is located at 118.7W. The fact is that 1. there is a SAT at 118.7W 2. that the other sat close by is at 119W - (we will ignore the name) 3. There is one sat at 110w and another sat at 129W. 4. There is a dish capable of scanning the two sats in number 3 above nicely and that the two LNBs are mounted well. 5. There is room between the two LNBs to mount another LNB. 6. There is an LNB available which will scan the current 118.7W and 119W in one (the Universal LNB) 7. Therefore, it is very logical for King to say " With skilled pointing and perfect skew yo can get 110/118.7/119/129 " As regards King's statement about DisEqC switching, I can only say this: You select the switch that is compatible with the LNBs. I have seen switches which are 8 to 1 if you have to have 8 standard LNBs and 30 hours a day to watch TV from 8 sats, and flip through channels in different sats!! |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2287 Registered: Oct-06 | I was referring to Dish 500Plus and 1000Plus This is what DN call it AMC16=Anik3=118.75W Just a satellite name change Same frequencies at 11.7 GHz at same orbital location My post is about converting an old DTV PhaseII To Dish 500Plus If yo are a skilled installer Yo can make it into Dish 1000 Plus I have no problem with criticism It's what makes everyone learn from both comments Nalin I agree about the type of DISEqC switch But should work fine as long as yo don't combine with a twin LNB I also said I never tried it What the hick we are all testers I like to encourage anyone who has DTV phaseII to try it I can't possibly try everything out there myself We gotta work as a team |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 7746 Registered: Jun-06 | King Tapeman: My post was supportive of you in a general way. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2291 Registered: Oct-06 | I know I wasn't being negative I was responding to Mr. Arthur's comment Yo got a good point regarding type of DISEqC switch I was just saying Phase-2 can easily work with another circular LNB If yo combine Phase2 and a DN twin LNB This can mess up the 8-bit DISEqC protocol commands But most likely safe for all 110/118/119/129 on phase 2 dish |
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Silver Member Username: The_messengerPost Number: 105 Registered: Oct-07 | AMC16=Anik3=118.75W Just a satellite name change Same frequencies at 11.7 GHz at same orbital location. Not true King Tapeman, Anik F3 is not AMC-16 Anik F3 was placed into Orbit @ 118.8.o*w on April 12,2007 and AMC-16 was moved back to 85.o*W with only 8 TPs and Feeds. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2292 Registered: Oct-06 | Who cares Replaced or changed or Temporary placement At 118.75 same frequency same FSS service by DN 118.75 orbit location was always 11.7 Ghz to 12.2 Ghz DN has dish 500Plus at 118.75 DN has dish 1000Plus at 118.75 FSS 118.75 was always 11.7G to 12.2 GHz My reference was regarding 500Plus and 1000Plus My post was to show the upgrade Read it as many times as yo want |
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Bronze Member Username: Ragi48Flushing, New york Usa Post Number: 26 Registered: Jun-06 | Adding to the confusion, I have a question. I have a Dish network 500 dish with two LNB's one for 110 and the other for 119. I also have another dish (a bit larger, says Digiwave on it) which is pointed to W121. Kindly advise me as to which dish I am better of using to get 118.7. Should I use the 500 dish and replace 119 LNB to get 118.7 and 119 or should I use 121W dish and point to 118.7 and leave the 500 dish as it is. I live in NYC. Thanks in advance. |
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Silver Member Username: One_eye_jackPost Number: 307 Registered: Nov-07 | mike first I would just replace LNB 119 with this new Circular Dual LNB for both 119 and 118.8°W It's designed especially for catching 119 & 118.7 (Anik F3) at the same time using one such LNB. Each Output gives signal from both satellites. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 7757 Registered: Jun-06 | The only problem with Yukon's approach would be: The current dish for 110/119 may not be able to get your Anik 3(118.70 signals properly. Why not use the 121 dish for 118.7/119 with a little bit of a swing of the dish Eastward. That would make your current 119 redundant - you can direct that 119 separately to another room, or just use it as another 119 on your diseqc |
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Silver Member Username: One_eye_jackPost Number: 309 Registered: Nov-07 | Boy there is too many chiefs here & not enough Indians. mike try the easiest thing first, just change the LNB. Why go through all that work,changing dishes, LNBs and realigning if there is no need to. BTW Nalin are you saying that his existing 500 dish will not pickup 118.8? Well friend tell me this, his dish 500 is now picking up 119 they are both located in the same Orbit,so what reason do you have that it will not pickup 118.8? What will he do for Echo 9 located @ 121.o*W? |
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Silver Member Username: Madflea168Post Number: 166 Registered: Jan-08 | the idea of the repoint kit is for the use of super d, I really dunno whether that universal lnb will work on the super d without any modification to the bracket or not, but if for those whose does not have super d, it is probably a good idea to go with the generic lnb, while the repoint kit for the super d owner eliminate the hassles. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 7758 Registered: Jun-06 | Yukon: My comment was to point out the size of the Dish 500 (24") - whether it will pick up 118.7W. I have not tried it and am looking only for information/feedback from somebody more knowledgable like you. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2297 Registered: Oct-06 | That's correct Yo need at least 28" dish for FSS 118.7 Yo might be lucky with slightly smaller dish depending on where yo live and pick it up But typically need 28" dish or super dish Also old DTV III can pick it if change LNBs |
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Bronze Member Username: KrishnPost Number: 49 Registered: Sep-06 | King, Nalin and All: My friend has the following set up: Fortec80 dish whose dimensions are: Diameter short axis 75cm (30 inches) -horizontal Diameter long axis 83cm (33 inches) -vertical KU -- Band Gain @12.5 GHz 38.24 dB - as per dish specification. LNB: CB2008A which is supposed to be wide band with input frequency range from 11.70Ghz to 12.75Ghz and an extremely low noise figure 0.3dB. He has signal quality of 97% for all 119 transponders above 12.25 Ghz. Only 60% signal quality for only horizontal transponders in 118.8 from above 12.00 Ghz and hardly 20- 30% for vertical transponders above 12.00 Ghz. Marginal signal quality hardly 10% for both horizontal and vertical transponders from 11.7 to 12.0Ghz. Is the dish 30 inch dish too small? I was reading in another other forum that only Digiwave DGL-1189S LNB can pick up frequencies from 11.7 to 12.00 GhZ. Would a Invacom or Digiwave LNB work better with same 30inch dish? Can some dish moving to get higher signal quality from 11.75 Ghz help - does not mind if the signal quality at higher Ghz drops to say 85% in the process? What do you suggest: Try some dish moving and optimize signal strengths? Replace the CB 2008A LNB with Digiwave or Invacom? Replace 30 inch dish by bigger dish 33, 36 or 39? |
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Gold Member Username: KirankumarKenya Post Number: 1208 Registered: Oct-07 | Subash, you are hijacking a thread, you have already started your thread so stay there help will come |
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Bronze Member Username: KrishnPost Number: 51 Registered: Sep-06 | African: Not really I posted here first and realized I should start a new thread. It appears I cannot delete it or if you know please let me know |
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