CW-600S Premium need help
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Bronze Member Username: Post_manPost Number: 14 Registered: Nov-07 | Captive Works CW-600S Premium just delivered to my door I have downloaded two (2) Bins CW 600S.zip and CW 600PV 1.65.zip. Now my question which of the two do I load or do I load both? Also what loader do I use? THANKS |
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Bronze Member Username: FumatePost Number: 59 Registered: Jul-06 | Must use only one .bin, CS600pv 1.65. You posted the download was .zip, don't forget to unzip it so you have the .bin. I've found the Loader 1.05 to work best for loading and should be done from boot mode, hold down the power button on the front of the receiver as you turn the power switch on the back. After you've updated the file, entered your antennea settings and scanned the satellites you must enable the patch by hitting F1 on the remote and then entering "000". |
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Bronze Member Username: Post_manPost Number: 15 Registered: Nov-07 | Thanks Pablo, now I can try this new baby out. |
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Silver Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 920 Registered: Jul-06 | The Proper way to CW600S/P "Standby Mode" and "Upgrade Procedure" for dummies -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For all of you CW600S/P owners/newbies out there, after many hours of research and experience, it occured to me that there wasn't enough details in the setup procedures for newbie's posted in the forums including the "How To Guides," much of the information in the forums don't even specify if it's for a "Regular" or "Premium" model, this is where mistakes are made so I wanted to share the details with you who may have questions, doubts and fear of screwing something up. I too was scared when I first set out but it's very simple once you get the hang of it! I own only "Premium" models but have noticed that there isn't much difference between the two except for certain features such as memory capacity, channel and satellite info capacity and maybe some other small features. The basics of the "Upgrade" procedure should apply to either model. The latest Loader program v1.06 should work for either model. Always take caution when selecting files to download and install, if you aren't sure, it's time to take time and do your homework, read, read and read before proceding, make sure to post questions in the appropriate forum pertaining to your specific question otherwise you may not receive an answer. You should be able to find an answer to nearly every question by reading the posts. Read these instructions carefully, follow them step by step and you should have no problems. A/V= "audio/video" (typically RCA type color coded component cables) STB= "set top box" (satellite receiver of any kind) LNBF= "low noise block feedhorn" (refers to commonly used Ku-Band devices) PC= "IBM compatible computer" (laptop or desktop) Null Modem= "serial cable that has wires crossed over" NOTE: Always do the upgrades/downloads/uploads with the lnbf coax cable disconnected from the receiver, "when the lnbf coax cable is disconnected, it provokes the receiver to the proper standby mode "--:--" .....not the "BOOT" mode, unsatisfactory results may occur using the "BOOT" mode. You only need one file to make this box work, use the latest/current "bin" file available. Keep it simple and take your time! Many people make mistakes by downloading the wrong files that belong to other models, if this happens, you may render the receiver useless, permanently! Make sure you use the proper file for your "regular" or "Premium." They are different and will NOT work if the wrong file is downloaded to the STB. To begin, do a "factory default" first, this is done in the receiver's onscreen Menu (must be connected to TV to see what you're doing), next, turn off STB and then power off at the back panel switch. (always make A/V and coax connections/disconnections to TV and satellite receiver with them unplugged from power, otherwise may cause damage to receiver and/or TV, the receiver power switch on back panel is sufficient to power off.) Now disconnect all TV A/V, coax and/or AC-3 Dolby optic cables from TV, etc. except for the null modem serial cable which connection is made in the next step. With PC off/shut down, connect the serial/modem cable,,,only null modem cable should be connected from receiver to pc at this time, (serial /modem cable connections and disconnections should always be made with the pc turned off, otherwise it may damage the resource chip on motherboard) now start up the pc and open the loader program and have the proper "bin" update file and com port selected (in this order)....double check the com port settings for both the pc and the loader before proceeding to download (com ports should match, i.e.; com1 to com1 or which ever one is set for usage by your pc), if you are not sure, you can check it in the "Windows Device Manager." Now turn on the STB power from back panel switch, wait for it to completely boot up, give it adequate time, it should default to the time display; "12:00" or "0000", then press the power button on front panel and it should go right to the standby mode "--:--". then start the download process by clicking "Start" in the loader program. It should work flawlessly. Let it complete the process until it displays "-end" then turn off STB by back panel power switch, close the loader program and shut down PC, disconnect the serial/modem cable, connect the TV A/V cable and LNBF coax cable from your satellite dish, the dish must already be aimed and pointed to the target satellite or satellites, power up the STB and do another factory default, turn off and power down (switch off) one more time, power back up and begin the setup and sat scans. In the receiver Menu, under "System Info," verify the new file you just downloaded, it will be listed under the "S/W version" description. Make sure the "Autoroll" feature is set to "on" in the "System" Menu settings, you can also turn "off" the "Key Update Message" in the Menu, otherwise you will see a onscreen message everytime it rolls new keys, you don't want this to happen especially if you are recording. In the "System Settings" menu, set the "Channel NO." to "SID" so that it can properly identify, organize and number all the channels according to the satellite service provider's channel line up. All the other settings are basic and straight forward, just follow the User Manual that came with your receiver or search the Captive Works forums on this web site for Instructions/How to Guides. Last, after the setup and satellite scanning, you must "enable the patch," with the receiver and TV on, select a scrambled channel to view, next, on the remote control, press the "F1" button, you will see an "H" on the receiver front panel display, then press the zero "0" button 3 times, you will see the zero's display as you enter them and then you will see a display on the TV screen "Patch Enabled." By repeating this step, you can reverse the patch to "Patch Disabled." Just make sure it's "enabled" so that it can decode scrambled channels. It usually takes a few minutes to roll keys, when it does, the picture will pop up unscrambled and you will be watching TV. One last thing, after the initial upgrade when the keys roll for the first time, it's been said that you should turn off and reset the STB, turn back switch off, wait a few seconds then turn on and let it boot up. It should come up to the last channel you were just viewing. That's it, you're done, enjoy! you can get this info from completefta dot com |
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Gold Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 2525 Registered: May-06 | what if u did load the wrong file and it says boot... then nothing. Someone I know has one of these that is doing that. I havent got my hands on it yet. I think i can get it to work... but wonnder if u know any tricks to get it back online. I was going to try to connect it to a pc with a serial connection. (not with the usb)Press start on the loader... Hold power down, turn on from the back . |
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Silver Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 927 Registered: Jul-06 | here you go dantetn happy new year hope this works for you and your bud CW600-S PREMIUM Dead Box, No LCD display, Red Light Only -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dead Box, No LCD display, Red Light Only, or "I loaded the wrong Software" How To CW600-S PREMIUM RECIEVERS ONLY! This How To is for anyone who has a box that appears to be 'dead'. Possible signs of a dead STB are: Unit will not power on correctly. Unit will not display anything on LCD. Unit only shows a red light on the box. Unit is stuck in boot mode. Unit freezes during boot up. If you are experiencing any of these problems or something very simple then the chances are, you have a dead STB. At the moment, there are no JTAG 'revival' techniques, that will repair dead boxes. However there may still be hope for you. If the receiver can be placed into boot mode, you may be able to fix your broken box by loading the factory software onto the receiver. Things to know before trying to revive a dead box. First of all, if your STB is brand new and has never been updated by anyone, then you need to send your unit in for repair. CaptiveWorks has a 1 year manufacturers warranty on these receivers. Before attempting to 'fix' the problem yourself, contact CaptiveWorks via their website or phone number to see if you can have your box repaired. Secondly, if you have killed your box by loading software onto it "PERIOD", whether this was factory software or not, you have violated your warranty agreement an forfeit any repair work that CaptiveWorks may have previously done for free within the warranty period. If you have only attempted to load factory software and have not attempted to load 'second hand' or 'non factory' software (such as the updates provided on this site), CaptiveWorks "WILL NOT" repair your unit. They are bound by law, not to repair any unit that has been modified to work outside of it's factory parameters. So don't send in your 'patched' unit expecting CaptiveWorks to fix your mistake. It won't happen. Last but not least, the following steps are not guaranteed to revive your STB. This is your last hope of reviving your receiver until a JTAG procedure is developed and even then it may not be possible to fix the problems with your STB. If the following steps do not repair your receiver, let me be the first to congratulate you on your new doorstop. First you must check to see if you can get your receiver to stay in boot mode. This is done by powering off the receiver from the rear rocker switch and powering back on from the rear rocker switch while holding the power button on the front of the receiver. If your receiver continues to display 'boot' on the LCD screen then there may be hope for you yet. If you are not able to get the receiver to continue to show 'boot' but it does show when the unit attempts to turn on, skip all of the following steps until you reach the section labled 'No Boot?' If you do not see 'boot' at all on the LCD screen of the receiver, congratulations, you may now throw your receiver away. Next you will need to load the factory software for the premium receivers onto the box via RS232 Null Modem Serial Cable. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LOAD ANY SOFTWARE ONTO THE BOX VIA USB TO SERIAL CABLE! There is currently no way for you to load the receiver using a USB to Serial Cable, while the receiver is in boot mode. You will actually have to connect to a serial port on the computer or you will not be able to continue. While the receiver is in boot mode, you will need to load the factory files starting with the V1.08 software, followed by the V3.01 CXLoader. It is best to load these files using the V1.06 software updater, however, the V1.05 updater will work as well. The factory software for CW600-S PREMIUM receivers can be found here [link removed] If you are not able to get the software to transfer, check your settings and try again. If the software will not take, and you are sure that your settings are correct and the cable is good, you may now throw your receiver away. If you are able to get the software to load, attempt to reboot the unit. If the receiver still does not turn on correctly or continues to show signs of being dead, try to load the software again. If you continue to have problems once the software has loaded after a second or third time, congratulations you may now throw your receiver away. If your receiver makes it all the way through the boot up and displays a channel or Menu Screen and you are able to navigate through your settings on the box, do a factory default ('All' option) and load the factory software again followed by another factory default ('All' option) before attempting to load the correct software for the PREMUIM receiver. NO BOOT? If you are unable to get the unit to stay in boot mode, there is one last chance that you may be able to revive your receiver. Connect an RS232 Null Modem cable to the receiver and run the V1.06 software on your computer. You will need the factory software before continuing. This contains both the V3.01 CXLoader and the V1.08 Factory Software. You will need to prepare the updater for loading the V1.08 Factory Software. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LOAD ANY SOFTWARE ONTO THE BOX VIA USB TO SERIAL CABLE! There is currently no way for you to load the receiver using a USB to Serial Cable (this applies because you are attempting to load the receiver in boot mode). You will actually have to connect to a serial port on the computer or you will not be able to continue. Once everything is ready to update the receiver, reboot the STB. While the receiver displays 'boot' on the LCD screen, press the start button in the updater software on the computer. Hopefully your receiver will start to load the factory software. If your receiver does not start the transfer, attempt this several more times because your timing, may be off and there is not an exact science as to when to press the start button on the software. If you are not able to get the software to transfer, check your settings and try again. If the software will not take, and you are sure that your settings are correct and the cable is good, you may now throw your receiver away. If you are able to get the software to load, attempt to reboot the unit. If the receiver still does not turn on correctly or continues to show signs of being dead, try to load the software again. If you continue to have problems once the software has loaded after a second or third time, congratulations you may now throw your receiver away. If your receiver makes it all the way through the boot up and displays a channel or Menu Screen and you are able to navigate through your settings on the box, do a factory default ('All' option) and load the factory software again followed by another factory default ('All' option) before attempting to load the correct software for the PREMUIM receiver. __________________ |
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Bronze Member Username: Post_manPost Number: 16 Registered: Nov-07 | Bruce or should I say Captive CW You seem to know alot about this box. One stupid question, what does this loader 1.06 look like? on my Desktop I have the loaders V.4.0 by Jihad and BL 1.4 I did download the 1.06  I can't seem to find it. |
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Gold Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 2547 Registered: May-06 | Thanks bruce. Omar, loader 1.06 is for CW boxes. Look at ftaforall.net go to cw recievers and download the loader... there are 2, they look the same. Dont worry about it if u dont have a cw reciever tho. |
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Silver Member Username: KirankumarKenya Post Number: 586 Registered: Oct-07 | Guys, we were trying to help this thing,but it turns out it is a F#cking guy.posing as a fudi Ghazala Go Screw yourself,whoever you F@cking are,and don't bother ask for any help.khote |
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Silver Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 931 Registered: Jul-06 | african budy start a new threadmy pc is going nuts with E mail |
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Bronze Member Username: Post_manPost Number: 19 Registered: Nov-07 | Bruce Your Post above says to do a Factory Default before and after flashing. I was reading King Tapeman's thread where he is saying not to do one? I have ask him for a reason as of yet no respond. What do you think? |
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Silver Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 938 Registered: Jul-06 | i do not do it all the time if the new bin and my box is not working right ill do a factory reset but before i do i right down all my info from the box sat seating i think your box will work better if you do but it will work ok if you do not if you find you are haveing trouble do a factory reseat and fix your seating scan the sat you want when scan is done exit out to tv then hit F1 ooo on the remote to enable the patch let roll on bev it is v2 dish is 195for dish110w and this will fix epg to hope this helps you have a nice day |
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Bronze Member Username: Post_manPost Number: 20 Registered: Nov-07 | Bruce me again My receiver reads boot. On the loader file bar reads CW600PV1.66 bin Download S/W COM 1 Push Start % don't move Stop button comes on Where do I go from here? |
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Bronze Member Username: Ez2ctvPlatinum Mem... Post Number: 32 Registered: Dec-07 | Are you using a NULL MODEM cable (CW boxes require a NM cable) Are you using computer with a RS232 DB9 port OR are you using a USB to DB9 adapter ? |
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Silver Member Username: BrucesterPost Number: 940 Registered: Jul-06 | did you try all the com ports if not you are using the wrong cable and do not load the bin in boot load in standby after you disconect the lmb turn box on just as the box buts up hit the on off fast and you will see this--:-- that is standby load all files in this mode the coaders will tell us when to load the file in boot |
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Bronze Member Username: Post_manPost Number: 21 Registered: Nov-07 | I am using the cable that came with it. I will try again tomorrow.Thanbks |
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