"brute force" approach
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Gold Member Username: JohnnerMiami, Florida Post Number: 1382 Registered: Nov-05 | 12/29/07--> It is confirmed that Open Cam (Dreambox, Relook, etc) is already back up and running! They're using a "brute force" approach, and while it does take about 10 seconds for a channel to lock in, it IS working. That's right...WORKING ON PPV, PORN, and PREMIUMS! Also, as stated in a post last week, the timer value keeps changing, you can see it happen watching the Open Cam run. Timer value changes every 10 to 15 seconds. Their EMU is working, delivering proper control words, so in fact many are watching TV right now. The Linux based stuff requires less horse power to process, but it IS defeatable for non Linux boxes. Give em some time, Coders will come through (as usual) and the game will continue. I know this is old information, but anybody else can explain to me how exactly does "brute Force" works. - Is it a new type of algorythym program? |
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Silver Member Username: Jurj1Post Number: 338 Registered: Jul-06 | Basically what there doing is forcing the receiver to try all possible combinations for teh timer value as it changes. Hence why u see the delay for channels to lock in, this delay is caused by the length of time the co-processor can go thru all possible combinations to find the correct timer. SV, VS, Pansat and the others should have fast enough processors to do the same. It also makes sense why its been reported that CW is slow switching between channels. |
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Silver Member Username: RescateVENEZUELA, M... Post Number: 119 Registered: Nov-07 | mmm, Some MULTIMEDIA TEAM (WATCHING ONLY) over here! ED, CHICK and ZULU NICE PICKS...and GOOD TIMING NO WORDS, VERY ORIGINAL DISNEY WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH THIS TEAM!   |
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Gold Member Username: JohnnerMiami, Florida Post Number: 1384 Registered: Nov-05 | Well..... If this type of FIX arrive for the rest of us, one thing is for sure is going to take even longer to lock on the channels. Dreambox runs an 250 MHz IBM PowerPC (350 MIPS) and DGStation RELOOK has an IBM Power CPU PC405, 350MIPS (252MHz} ALL CW except for CW300 their Main Processor are Cx24138, Speed 160 MIPS (that why takes longer for them) Poor Pansat 3500sd of mine it only has a Sti 5518 BVB, ST20 32bit CPU 81MHz} (100 MIPS) I hope that my Coolsat 8000 can keep up LOL!} |
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New member Username: WabashPost Number: 10 Registered: Oct-06 | I've started a new thread for sharing all info about new bins and I hope you'll direct all bin-related info there so we may all find out about bin releases, bugs, downtime, etc., in one place, just like the New Keys thread. New Bins https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/427000.html |
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Gold Member Username: JohnnerMiami, Florida Post Number: 1392 Registered: Nov-05 | bump! Viewsat Ultra has a 200 MHz Connexant Processor 32 Mb SD RAM may help when fix comes... |
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Silver Member Username: Jurj1Post Number: 347 Registered: Jul-06 | Please remember though the Brute Force approach is most likely a temp fix until they retrieve the info they need to make the receivers work properly. Once they do there will be no delays. Think about it, I highly doubt a DN 301 receiver has a faster processor than a dreambox or any newer FTA receiver, yet I'm sure none of those receivers have issues. |
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Bronze Member Username: TypertegraVancouver, British Colu... Post Number: 43 Registered: Oct-06 | links to such "brute force fix"? for vs extreme pref. |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 2813 Registered: Sep-06 | SEAN, Be sure and back up your channel list and satfile before installing any new bin's. We have seen several users of your receiver that have had major problems with data loss after the update process. So to save yourself some time later make a back up now.. https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/428318.html  |
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Bronze Member Username: TypertegraVancouver, British Colu... Post Number: 44 Registered: Oct-06 | actually i read your post about that 15 minutes ago, and alrady started backnig up my info, i swap recievers with a friend of mine who doesnt have the capabilities of uploading his new bin, and we noticed the dataloss last time we swapped, so i understand completely the problem your speaking of. thanks for posting about it though. |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 2816 Registered: Sep-06 | Your welcome and thanks for the report it seams to be affecting all the viewsats now |
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Silver Member Username: Dr_dssPost Number: 428 Registered: Sep-07 | doubt a DN 301 receiver has a faster processor 301 has a sti5518 What most of you always fail to realize is a big word called EMULATION stb's don't have access to the MAPs on the cards like DN and B3v boxes do they have to "EMULATE" them, as a result it's double the overheard, makes a big huge difference. |
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Bronze Member Username: NadasPlatinum Member Post Number: 38 Registered: Dec-07 | 12/29/07--> It is confirmed that Open Cam (Dreambox, Relook, etc) is already back up and running! They're using a "brute force" approach, and while it does take about 10 seconds for a channel to lock in, it IS working. That's right...WORKING ON PPV, P, and PREMIUMS! Also, as stated in a post last week, the timer value keeps changing, you can see it happen watching the Open Cam run. Timer value changes every 10 to 15 seconds. Their EMU is working, delivering proper control words, so in fact many are watching TV right now. The Linux based stuff requires less horse power to process, but it IS defeatable for non Linux boxes. Give em some time, Coders will come through (as usual) and the game will continue. |
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Gold Member Username: JohnnerMiami, Florida Post Number: 1393 Registered: Nov-05 | CW700s v1.41 12/31/07 Temp fix 1.Temp fix for new ecm on DN and BEV 2.Improved channel change time. 3.Reduced freezes and lockups. Still has both freezes and lockups but much improved |
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