I Wish Dish would go down
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Silver Member Username: Leafs_wingpPost Number: 121 Registered: Sep-07 | Come on Dish, fail, fail, fail... Us BEV users need a fix and we need to be inundated with all of the "new bins yet", "where are the new bins" threads we all love... Talk on here now is BORING. |
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Gold Member Username: RtapFL Post Number: 1427 Registered: Jan-07 | tell me about it.it only gets interesting when the shhiit hits the fan.thats when people start crying for help.lol |
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Silver Member Username: BirdwatcherPost Number: 563 Registered: Jul-06 | its not like you bung holes help anyone anyway. in all your use of fta terms you lose everyone. |
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Silver Member Username: Leafs_wingpPost Number: 124 Registered: Sep-07 | I totally agree... if BEV was up I wouldn't even be on here. This fills my lack of TV void... Also... BEV stands for Bell Expre$$ VU and Dish is Dish Net... sorry for being to technical with my FTA terms |
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Gold Member Username: RtapFL Post Number: 1428 Registered: Jan-07 | i don't recall ever being disrespectful to you.if you don't understand fta terms go to the many fta sites and read to familiarize your self with the language.its not my fault you don't understand. |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1887 Registered: Sep-06 | c&p from another site, thanks to Satfinder1. Dish/ Bev Terminology Term: CHARLIE Alias: Dish, DN, dish net, Chuck, Chucky Details: Similar to "Dave" for DirecTV, only Charlie Ergen is a real person. He is the CEO of Echostar, the company that owns Dish Network and supplies equipment for Bell ExpressVu. Term: BEV Alias: ExpressVu, Bell, XVU, Boris, Boris & Natasha Details: One of the two satellite providers in Canada. All of their equipment is made by Echostar and they use the Nagravision encryption system (the same used by Dish Network). For testers, this provides the advantage of cross-compatibility for all receivers, cards, etc. Term: TEST CARD Alias: cheat card, Rom 2, Rom 3, Rom 10, Rom 11, Atmega, AVR, emulator, Guardian 2, Casper, DSSRev, Rom X Details: The collective term that refers to any device used to decrypt Dish Network or Bell ExpressVu programming. Term: ATMEGA Alias: none Details: A black (although sometimes blue) card with an Atmel chip that is designed to simulate the functions of a smart card. The unit completely replaces the smartcard and requires no additional equipment other than a special inexpensive programmer. It is the most commonly used method of testing. Term: AVR Alias: AVR3, AVR6, AVR8, AVR9 Details: Stands for Audio Video Replicator. A card that fits into the card acceptor on the receiver that requires the original smartcard to be attached to it. It is a stand-alone unit that contains an Atmel chip and programmer. It uses the smartcard to acquire essential receiver information but allows the user to open all available channels. Term: PLASTIC Alias: Rom 2, Rom 3, Rom 10, Rom 11, E3M Details: Dish Network or Bell ExpressVu smart cards that have been hacked and re-programmed to receive all available channels. Term: EMULATION Alias: WinVu, cemu Details: Instead of using stand-alone cards, the receiver is hooked to a computer via a card-sized interface that is inserted into the receiver card slot. Software programs such as WinVu (Windows-based) or Cemu (DOS-based) allow the computer to mimic the functions of a smart card. Term: IRD Alias: receiver Details: Stands for Integrated Receiver Decoder. It is your receiver. Term: CAM Alias: card, smartcard, access card Details: Stands for Conditional Access Module. It is the smart card produced by Dish Network or Bell ExpressUu. Term: TIERS Alias: none Details: Levels of programming that can be purchased by Dish or BEV subscribers that correspond to program packages. Term: JTAG Alias: none Details: Stands for Joint Team Action Group. It is a simple device made of five resistors and a DB-25 connector that, when attached to specific points on the IRD mother board, allows the receiver to communicate with a computer. Term: bJTAGi Alias: buffered JTAG Details: A JTAG device with a power supply (buffer) that some believe is more appropriate for programming a receiver with a computer than the simple JTAG device. There is considerable debate on this issue but in the end it is a matter of personal preference. Term: TSOP Alias: none Details: Stands for Thin Small Outline Package. It is the chip inside the IRD that contains the software necessary to run it. A JTAG or bJTAGi device is used to read from or write to the receiver's TSOP. Term: EEPROM Alias: none Details: Stands for Electronically Erasable-Programmable Read-Only Memory. There are actually two locations that this term refers to. The first is the flash memory on a smartcard, Atmega, or AVR. The second is a chip inside the IRD that contains user information such as parental lock passwords, channel guide type, channel order, and VCR timers. Term: TSOP BIN Alias: TSOP dump Details: This refers to the binary file created when you read your TSOP with a JTAG or bJTAGi and save the file to the hard drive on your computer. Reading and editing such files requires a program called Flash Edit or a hex editor. Term: IRD NUMBER Alias: Receiver number, CAID Description: The serial number on your receiver. It is important to have this number both in decimal (example: R 00 1234-5678-90) and hex (example: 01 AA BB CC). Use the scientific functions on the Windows Calculator to determine your receiver number's hex equivalent. Term: BOX KEYS Alias: none Details: The secret keys contained in each receiver's firmware that identify the particular IRD when used with test cards. Term: CAM NUMBER Alias: cam ID Details: A special ID number printed on the back of the smart card. Begins with S 00 for Dish and S 04 for BEV. This number is stored on the EEPROM of the test card but is not located anywhere on the TSOP or IRD EEPROM. Term: BUILD CONFIG Alias: none Details: A four-letter code that identifies which factory batch your receiver belongs to. It is printed on a tag pasted on the surface of the IRD mother board. Term: BOOTSTRAP Alias: none Details: a code that has to do with allowing the receiver to power up and access the programming on the TSOP. Term: CLONING Alias: none Details: Refers to changing the IRD number, box keys, build config, and bootstrap in a receiver's TSOP to match that of another. The end result is that test cards may be used interchangeably between the cloned receivers, rather than making it necessary for each receiver to have a test card unique to that receiver. There really is no benefit to this other than convenience. Term: ECM Alias: zap, hit Details: Stands for Electronic Counter Measure. It is an attempt by Dish Network or Bell ExpressVu to disable units receiving unauthorized programming. Typically, a code is sent to the receiver's TSOP and/or EEPROM that renders the unit unusable. A JTAG or bJTAGi is used to fix an ECM'd TSOP or EEPROM. Term: NAG Alias: none Details: A "lesser" ECM. It shows some sort of error message on the screen but the software on the TSOP and EEPROM remains intact. Reprogramming the test card with the latest fix is usually required to eliminate nags. Term: SOFTWARE FIX Alias: none Details: A software code that circumvents an ECM or nag. Term: HARDWARE FIX Alias: none Details: receiver modifications that must be made to prevent ECMs or nags. Often involves cutting traces, removing resistors, or installing various circuits and gadgets. Term: FIRMWARE Alias: none Details: The software on the TSOP that allows the receiver to run. Subject to upgrades which are sometimes favorable but often intended to disable hardware fixes. Term: DIGITAL LOCK Alias: nagless TSOP lock, DL Details: A circuit that prevents Dish Network or Bell ExpressVu from writing ECMs or firmware upgrades to your TSOP. Term: DATASTREAM Alias: stream Details: Stream of data that Dish Network or Bell ExpressVu uses to communicate with the smart card or IRD. All authorizations and updates to cards and receivers are sent via the stream. Unlike DirecTV, the actual decryption is done at the receiver end rather than at the transmission end of the datastream. The object of DTV testing is to "fool" the datastream into decrypting the channels. With Dish/ Bev, you are instead manipulating the receiver and card to unlock the goods. That is the primary difference between the Nagravision system and the Videoguard system that DTV uses. Term: BLOCKER Alias: none Details: A code that prevents Dish Network or Bell ExpressVu from writing to or locking a smart card. Term: LOCKED Alias: Locked Rom 3, Locked Rom 10, Locked Rom 11 Details: A card that has had its backdoor locked through the datastream by Dish or BEV to prevent tampering. Usually requires a dealer to unlock so that it may be used again. Term: MARKED Alias: Marked Rom 2, Marked Rom 3 Details: A code has been written to the one-time programmable section of the card that permanently flags the card for an ECM. Requires a special software fix to be written to the card. This primarily affects Rom 2 and Rom 3 cards since they were used during a time before blockers were introduced and thus allowed Charlie to write to that sector. Rom 10 and 11 cards became hackable after the advent of the blocker. Term: LOOPED Alias: none Details: The card has lost its ATR (Answer to Reset) and has gone into a "loop". The card cannot be used until unlooped, usually by a dealer who provides unlocking service. Dish and BEV are not known to loop cards through the stream, so looping is usually done by the tester due to carelessness when programming the card. Term: NAGRAEDIT Alias: none Details: The software used to program smart cards. Term: JKEYS Alias: none Details: The software used to read a receiver's box keys, as well as read from or write to the TSOP and/or EEPROM. Used with JTAG or bJTAGi device. Term: JEEPERS Alias: none Details: The software used to program an AVR or Atmega. Term: WINVU Alias: none Details: A Windows-based software program used to perform Emulation. Term: CEMU Alias: none Details: A DOS-based software program used to perform Emulation. Term: xCEL Alias: none Details: A software program used to read/write smart cards. Less popular than NagraEdit, but in the author's opinion best for programming Rom 2 cards. Term: ROM TIERMAKER Alias: RTM Details: A software program that creates tiers to be written to test cards. The documents created by this program are written to the appropriate devices using NagraEdit or Jeepers. Term: FLASHEDIT Alias: none Details: A software program that is used to read the TSOP bin and make changes in specific locations such as the IRD number, Box Keys, Build Config, and Bootstrap. It is primarily used for cleansing the TSOP bin of an ECM but can also be used for cloning. Term: DSSREV Alias: none Details: A red Atmega-like card that has the ability to run virtually the same as a Rom 3. Term: MAGIC CARD Alias: none Details: Another sibling of the Atmega family that comes with auto-detect capability and claims to be compatible with Rom 101/102/103 cards when the time comes that that will be necessary. Term: CARD SWAP Alias: none Details: A security measure known to Dave testers for years, it is the process of sending customers a new unhacked card to replace an older, fully-hacked card. When all customers have received new cards, the data stream that supports the older cards is usually discontinued, making it necessary to find a hack to the new cards in order to resume testing. Term: NAGRAVISION 1 Alias: Nag-1, Rom 2/3/10/11 stream, Blue card stream, 1800 stream Details: The first-generation Nagravision encryption system that has been fully hacked and is the basis of all testing methods currently used as of 4/04. Term: NAGRAVISION 2 Alias: Nag-2, Rom 101/102/103 stream, Yellow card stream, 1801 stream Details: The second-generation Nagravision encryption system that was introduced in 2003 and currently as of 4/04 has not been hacked. At this time, this stream is being sent along with Nagravision 1, but as soon as the card swap is completed, most channels will switch to Nagravision 2 exclusively. Term: SOFT LOCK Alias: none Details: A 5-byte code written to the section of the TSOP bin where the ECM code normally goes in order to prevent an ECM from being written to the TSOP. Term: DVB Alias: none Details: Stands for Digital Video Broadcasting. This is the video format that has become the standard for digital compression, replacing the older DSS standard that DirecTV uses. Dish Network, Bell ExpressVu, and many Free-to-air services use the DVB standard. Term: DVB-S Alias: none Details: A PCI card that is installed into a computer that is used to receive DVB-formatted satellite television, including Dish and BEV. These cards are manufactured in Europe for the purpose of receiving free-to-air channels and subscription services using an additional hardware device for smart cards. They are not manufactured for the purpose of testing. Term: DVB-CI Alias: none Details: A conditional access module that is connected to a DVB-S card to enable the authorized reception of Pay-TV. Term: YANKSE Alias: none Details: A software program designed to enable a DVB-S card to display encrypted programming without the use of a DVB-CI module. Term: PROGDVB Alias: none Details: One of two DVB display software programs used extensively in North America. Term: MYTHEATRE Alias: none Details: One of two DVB display software programs used extensively in North America. Term: SOFTWARE MODE Alias: soft mode Details: A DVB-S card that does not contain a video processor and therefore uses the memory and CPU resources of the computer it is running on. Requires more memory and a faster processor. Examples are the WinTV Nova and the Vision Plus. When used with DVB display software, it is necessary to have the proper codecs and graphs installed on your computer. Term: HARDWARE MODE Alias: hard mode Details: A DVB-S card that has its own processor and memory and operates similar to a conventional receiver. Hard mode cards can be used on slower computers. Examples are the WinTV Nexus and the TechnoTrend. When used with DVB display software (such as MyTheatre and ProgDVB), hardware mode cards can be used in either hardware or software mode. Term: DISEQC Alias: none Details: Stands for Digital Satellite Equipment Control. It is a 2-way or 4-way switch necessary to hook up two or more LNBs to a DVB-S card. This is not the same as an SW-21, SW-44, or other switch manufactured by Echostar and used for Dish Network or Bell ExpressVu receivers. Term: FTA Alias: ITC Details: Stands for Free-to-Air. It means the same thing as the term "in-the-clear" from the old C-Band days. It refers to channels that are unencrypted and do not require a subscription to receive them. Term: FTA RECEIVER Alias: DVB receiver, MPEG-2 decoder Details: A digital satellite receiver designed for the reception of free-to-air broadcasts. As with DVB-S cards, they are not manufactured for the purpose of testing. Term: BLACKBIRD Alias: none Details: An FTA receiver that has been modified to decrypt Dish and BEV signals. |
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Silver Member Username: ScabzKnoxville, Tn Us Post Number: 140 Registered: Oct-07 | Who cares about bev ? Just get Dn if bev don't work. |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1898 Registered: Sep-06 | Bev is great. It has programing that is not on any other satellite. Also we have alot of users from Canada and their locals are on it for news,weather,sports.. so who cars ALOT of users thats who |
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Silver Member Username: Leafs_wingpPost Number: 130 Registered: Sep-07 | American TV blows son... BEV rules! |
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Bronze Member Username: WhodatbePost Number: 51 Registered: Aug-07 | BEV, has CBC, Hockey Night in Canada, nuf said! |
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Bronze Member Username: WhodatbePost Number: 52 Registered: Aug-07 | well i guess you can probably get those games on DN to, but... still... BEV rules! |
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Silver Member Username: CntrlaltdelPost Number: 166 Registered: Nov-06 | I wouldn't p1ss on the best part of that commie sanctioned piece of sh1t known as BEV, which is clearly the p0rn... in fact that's why I have FTA, to get real channels like HBO, not watered down pathetic Canadian versions like Movie Central. by the way, Your Mother... are you that stupid that you don't know HNIC is on Center Ice Saturday nights on D1shnet... move your dish to 119 and shut up... it'll get fixed when it gets fixed! |
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Silver Member Username: ScabzKnoxville, Tn Us Post Number: 141 Registered: Oct-07 | Who cares about canada ? Not me.  |
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Silver Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 718 Registered: Oct-07 | scabz.. u know bev 91 has so many channels and its much better than any other sat.. |
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Gold Member Username: Dude123Post Number: 1556 Registered: Jul-06 | for sure BEV is better than DN. DN doesn't show sh!t all what so ever. |
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Silver Member Username: CntrlaltdelPost Number: 168 Registered: Nov-06 | You must be speaking of azz fu cking... cause that's the only thing BEV has over DN. Canadian television is just 90% American programming on fewer and sh1ttier channels... are you people retarded? or are you all foreigners watching that sh1t on 81? |
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Silver Member Username: MclinkusPost Number: 221 Registered: Mar-07 | the conversation here may suck.. check out [link removed] for more then noobs askin for help also tester those terms you posted .. wouldnt it be nice if the terms were highlighted and linked to in all threads on a site. simaler to a wiki.. they are at [link removed] |
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Gold Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 2206 Registered: May-06 | Someone tell me whats on BEV and not dn please. I am curious. |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1909 Registered: Sep-06 | go to http://www.lyng*sat.com/packages/expressvu2_sid.html and http://www.lyng*sat.com/packages/expressvu1.html remove * I do not think anyone wants to go through channel by channel and compare what DN has and what BEV has..would take day's so just go look at what's their.. |
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Gold Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 2210 Registered: May-06 | No, I dont expect anyone to do that... Just some main channels... and 8th HBO? |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1914 Registered: Sep-06 | about 300 not on any system except bev mclinkus are you wanting to go to war with me? I have played nice so far but that can change.. |
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Bronze Member Username: RazzorwyrePost Number: 54 Registered: Dec-07 | I thought the lame mcspamus had left. Oh well here we go again FTAVIEW.COM is not a trusted site be ware when viewing it |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1924 Registered: Sep-06 | he is driving it hard thats for sure they must pay him alot I need to go over their and do some advertising for total tonight i guess LoL |
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Silver Member Username: Destine0429Quebec Canada Post Number: 363 Registered: Dec-06 | *Not bashing the USA but* Canada rules. Not just on the tv part. And we're not as stupid as you people come to think "Canadian Eh?" BEV has alot of things to offer that DN doesn't. Check back in the threads from the past few weeks, months, years even. And you will see how many more people are asking for a BEV fix instead of a DN fix. Azz fu kcing hahaha! Last time I checked, I seen a hell of a lot of that on DN po rns too. Uz Canadians gots smarts ta ya heard? *rolls eyes* |
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Bronze Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 77 Registered: Apr-06 | I would like to point out that the word "GLITCH" never appeared on the termanology!! That is because it was a farse;) yest like the Spotbeam! Can I get a hail yea out of that HEX how about 1 whose ya DADDY |
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Bronze Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 78 Registered: Apr-06 | Just for the sake of argument! I would like to say that Foxtel has most every thing your looking for But a true FTA is needed! DBS providers get all their programing off FTA sats and reproduce them in a selective program that is most profitable to its intended audience!! your welcome joeturn PHD |
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Bronze Member Username: JoeturnPost Number: 79 Registered: Apr-06 | Ahh heres a link of all the sats and their complete foot prints! I found it over in the wikipedia section @ ftaview http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/satellite.html me and UNK knows which one is foxtel |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1932 Registered: Sep-06 | Once again Joe were are you getting your information? This Foxtel sat is very out of the USA area... Foxtel is a subscription television company in Australia and most of us here in this forum are in USA so it has not much to do with what we are doing.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxtel |
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Bronze Member Username: One_eye_jackPost Number: 98 Registered: Nov-07 | I am not bashing the Candians that post here. Just the dummies. I can do this all day,but for now I will only talk about FTA....TV. Your are saying that Bev,s has more to offer then Charlie. You all sound like a bunch of kids, my dad is better then your dad. OK like what? besides Poron and some French channels. Almost half the people that live in Canada are from Asia.What birds carry the most International channels and Sports? Even the paid Canadians give Charlie a USA address in order to receive Dish Network channels. Bev's two 2 Small Birds about (600) channels. Charlie's Big Birds nine 9 I don't have the time to count all their channels but, I did count Echo's 7 and 8/10 little over (700) channels. Now tell me, who is better my Dad or your Dad   |
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Silver Member Username: Pulp_fictionPost Number: 674 Registered: Nov-07 | The only thing better in canada right now is the dollar... |
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Silver Member Username: Leafs_wingpPost Number: 137 Registered: Sep-07 | Canadian programing is way better than American. If I wanted to see a Hinterland's who's who... or a Canadian Heritage moment I wouldn't be able to on BEV... Sports channels alone make BEV the better choice... what about censorship... if you say poo on American TV or show a bum crack the FCC gets inundated with idiots mouthing about the children... Maybe I want to see boobyes and hear Fukc every once in awhile on a TV show... The Daily Show and Colbert Report aren't censored in Canada late at night... and Americans think they are free. BHA... BEV RULES! P.S My Mother is less suttie than Your Mother... |
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Silver Member Username: Leafs_wingpPost Number: 138 Registered: Sep-07 | Half the people living in Canada are Asian? Ok there buddy... you've been living on the west coast far too long... % of Asians in Canada = 2.5% (If you count illegals... maybe 4%) WOW... that's a lot.... Yukon you are a statistic genius... I can through out a general statistic that is complete bull$hit... Everyone living in Yukon is cold. |
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Bronze Member Username: RazzorwyrePost Number: 55 Registered: Dec-07 | Well technically you can show your azz and say whatever you like on pay tv, mainly its just the networks that the FCC will get you for. Hell I have seen way more than a crack on the p0rn channel ;) |
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Silver Member Username: CntrlaltdelPost Number: 169 Registered: Nov-06 | Canadian programming is American programming you idiot... with the exception of a few poorly produced Canadian shows on CBC that absolutely nobody watches up here. |
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Bronze Member Username: RazzorwyrePost Number: 56 Registered: Dec-07 | I also looked up the population percentages for canada and the total asian population is around 6-8 percent. Just thought everyon would like to know. Now as for the up to date figures, I am sure that percentage is higher since that was a 2003 posting. |
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Silver Member Username: One_eye_jackPost Number: 101 Registered: Nov-07 | For mother Canada has the highest per capita immigration rate in the world, driven by economic policy and family reunification; Canada also accepts large numbers of refugees. Newcomers settle mostly in the major urban areas of Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal. By the 1990s and 2000s, almost all of Canada's immigrants came from Asia. BTW when you say sports are you talking about football,hell all your football teams are made up from players that couldn't make it in the NFL.  ...................To go any farther  |
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Silver Member Username: Leafs_wingpPost Number: 140 Registered: Sep-07 | If by football you mean soccer, then no I wasn't talking about that... if by football you mean the circus that is the NFL then I definitly wasn't talking about that. CFL is way more exciting. How about that Miami Pittsburgh game.... EXCITEMENT! Hockey and the sports shows on the three Canadian 24/7 sports channels is far superior to anything on ESPN, or any other crappy network in the states. Who cares about the Red Sox, Yankees, Cowboys, Patriots (though what they are doing is amazing)... only people in the states. I prefer and enjoy my Canadian TV. There are far more immigrants in the States than in Canada. Illegal or not. Per capita... maybe... In Canada we call ourselves Canadians... not Irish/German American or French/African Americans... if you were born in the States you are American. Mr. Dressup Rules therefore BEV rules. It's quality over quantity here... |
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Silver Member Username: CntrlaltdelPost Number: 171 Registered: Nov-06 | This guy is a total moron... besides hockey, TSN is filled with ESPN programming and fu cking curling. Sportsnet shows regional hockey and the rest of its lineup is poker and FSN programming. Besised the American channels on BEV, it's filled with channels showing the exact same programs... the reason being 75% of Canadian networks are owned by the same 3 companies, and they cross all their programming on every channel they own, be it network or specialty channel... it's pathetic. American television alway has ans alway will be light years ahead... that's why Canadian T.V. is 90% American, and the number of Canadians pirating American signals have always been huge! |
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Silver Member Username: Oleg1474Florida Usa Post Number: 551 Registered: Aug-06 | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 09:20 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12/13/2007: 1000 Software Version L4.35 for ViP 211/DISH 411 Effective Thursday, December 13th, Engineering plans to spool the FULL PHASE of software version L4.35 for the ViP 211/DISH 411 receiver. This is primarily a non-forced maintenance release available at ALL satellite locations. At this time L4.35 will be the valid software version for the ViP 211/DISH 411. Thank you !! Oleg PHD. |
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Silver Member Username: One_eye_jackPost Number: 112 Registered: Nov-07 | For Your Mother I guess with Bev down you miss your por*n channels I have always hated to see a grown man cry so maybe this will help. A gift from the USAhttp://tgp.89.com/?a |
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