4 birds (82,91,110,119)
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Bronze Member Username: VittuPost Number: 13 Registered: Oct-07 | I need some expert advise. I am trying to install 4 birds on a single antenna (Superdish 33X24)I already have the bracket and LNBs setup. I need to know which bird I should aim for (119 or 87)that will get me started. Any other changes that I need to make (skew, clockwise,anti-clockwise) Thanks for your help. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 1797 Registered: Oct-06 | As far as I can tell yo No way yo can get all 4 with one dish 2 dishes required 1 for 82/91 and another for 110/119 The only dish that can all 4 must have a double reflector like the Wave Frontier Toroidal T55 or T90 https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=998503#POST998503 2 dishes much easier |
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Gold Member Username: Dude123Post Number: 1335 Registered: Jul-06 | Check this out it might help.... https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/402318.html |
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Silver Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 884 Registered: Sep-06 | how about this for a idea.....one dish and one LNB......its all I have and I get, 61, 81, 91, 110, 119, 121, 148, and will be getting a few more with the new LNB I am getting that can get the "true" FTA birds...as well as DN and BEV.....how do I get all those with one dish and ONE lnb you ask? I spent 40 bucks and got a motor....very easy to set up and you can get so much more.....so I say stop fighting your dish, get a motor, spend 1 hour installing it and watch tv LOTS of TV not just 3 birds thats not even 1/2 of what you can see........  |
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New member Username: One_eye_jackPost Number: 6 Registered: Nov-07 | say Jay long time no see. Do you still live in Oklahoma? What ever happen to you? You have always tried very hard to help. This forum is running out of good helpers stick around. |
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Silver Member Username: Space_invaderAndromeda M31 Post Number: 141 Registered: Nov-07 | I also have a rotor... It's is good until you start switch satellites fast... Moteck DisEqc H-H Satellite Rotor... I ended using 3 dishes... More faster than waiting for stupid rotor, but still good investment... I get up to 13 satellites... Had to do modifications...  |
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Bronze Member Username: VittuPost Number: 14 Registered: Oct-07 | Will this motor work for a regular dish receivers301,510? I am not using any FTA. BTW what size of dish antenna is ideal for motor to work. Thanks for all you inputs. A lot of information in those links (still catching up) |
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Bronze Member Username: VittuPost Number: 15 Registered: Oct-07 | This is what I am talking about. A lot of vendors are selling this antenna for ($109 with 4 and $150 for 5 lnbs) They all seems to be legit dish LNB's than FTA. I know they can be used for FTA.  |
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Silver Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 886 Registered: Sep-06 | VITTU That pic you put their is showing a antenna with 4 LNB's made to get 1 bev sat and 3 DN sat's. That would be ok but, please understand you would be missing 148, 121, 61.5 on dish and 81 for bev. Also all the "true" FTA sat's that means 97 and others that require a differant LNB than the one you showed their. Like The Invacom QDH-031  and yes I will agree sometimes you have to wait a few seconds for the motor to move no big deal I feel its worth it to get all those birds and NOT HAVE TO FIGHT ALL THE SWITCHES!! Nice to see you as well Yukon I have been busy with working the reg job and computer work, 4 kids, Ham Radio, wife, should I go on LoL..... Hope that helps |
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Silver Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 887 Registered: Sep-06 | Vittu I just saw <sorry> that you want to use DN receivers.......thats cool but, You will not receive BEV, or FTA programing and no a motor will not work with those receivers they dont have the ditec control for it.. I would strangly recommend a vewsat platinum LIGHT now going for 130 shipped all over the nett.... |
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Bronze Member Username: VittuPost Number: 16 Registered: Oct-07 | Thanks for your valuable inputs and suggestions TFT. 1 more question before I jump on FTA wagon, what size of Antenna is required to use with Motor and that will get me all 87,91,97,110,118.7,119. Sorry I cannot get 61.5 since there a lot of obstacles. (a huge building especially) |
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Bronze Member Username: VittuPost Number: 17 Registered: Oct-07 | and how about VS Pro since that will give me external recording capablities? |
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Silver Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 892 Registered: Sep-06 | Thanks and no problem A 31" is great almost never any rainfade with that size......and yes the VS pro is a great choice I just always suggest the VS plat light for cheapest reliable receiver. I would say def stay with a VS or a Pan Sat for the support |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 4947 Registered: Jun-06 | There are a lot of self styled experts who dispute the existence of one dish getting 82W, 91w, 110w and 119w. Some of them have earned their status by showering a lot of abuse and profanity and not because of their knowledge. I could not go last week to confirm my statement that I have seen these Dishes. I have just been and seen this item at a flae Market. It is a Digiwave 18 x 24 dish to be mounted with the 24" horizontally placed and it will hold 4 LNBs with a proper bracket. The whole Item with bracket and 4 LNBs is priced at $110 Canadian. In my next post I am going to post similar information I found elsewhere. I have since also read a bit more about it and there are other writers who have acknowledged this Dish made by Digiwave but do not accept that it can take 4 LNBs as stated. I also wish to state quite clearly and firmly that I have seen this type of Dish in three different stores in Toronto. There is therefore no need for the crowd of goons to come to this thread with their profanity, ridicule and skeptisism. The Dishes and LNBs exist and they are sold for the purpose as stated in the heading of this thread. Finally, the dealer was very emphatic in stating that he did not recommend replacing the 119w LNB with the combination 119/118.7 LNB on this setup. |
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Silver Member Username: SimikangPost Number: 139 Registered: Jul-06 | vittu it is possible i have the same dish but mine had 5 lnb's the middle was dtv 101 but i didnt have that so i didnt use it but i found all for signals very high signals on the same type of dish it is possible |
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Silver Member Username: SimikangPost Number: 140 Registered: Jul-06 | this is the bracket i had came with the wide dish and 4 lnb's all for 149.99 CAD |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 4948 Registered: Jun-06 | The skeptics please note the date this product was available - October 2006 as advertised. It would be appropriate for anybody to bring evidence that he tried this and it did not work. It is absolutely wrong to come to this thread just to laugh without trying. It only exposes the ignorance of the person who laughs and ridicules. http://www.worldwidesatellites.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_67&products _id=159 Eliptical Ultra Dish gets 5 satellites!!!! This 18x24 mini-dish can now get 119, 110, 101 , 91 and 82. Replaces the need for the T-55 - smaller and cheaper. Price includes 4 Dual LNBs FEATURES Multi-satellite dish antenna with 4 LNBs included Galvanized Steel construction Eliptical 18 x 24 size can receive multiple sats Boxed and easy to install LNB holders are pre-spaced apart for Dishnet 119 and 110, Directv 101, Bell Express Vu 91 and 82 Weight 10.00 This product was added to our catalog on Saturday 28 October, 2006. |
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Silver Member Username: SimikangPost Number: 141 Registered: Jul-06 | if you cant read it sais going from left to right sat 5 sat 4 sat 3 sat 2 sat 1 119 110 101 91 82 |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 4949 Registered: Jun-06 | And finally this Ebay item with the description. http://cgi.ebay.ca/5-LNB-BRACKET-HOLDER-SATELLITE-18-x-24-DISH-FTA_W0QQitemZ1101 86176749QQihZ001QQcategoryZ11726QQcmdZViewItem "Up for grabs is a BRAND NEW 5 LNB metal Bracket (LNB's & Dish not included). This is made for the 18" x 24" dishes. With this bracket you can get up to 5 satellites (82/91/101/110/119) with just 1 dish. This LNB holds the "L" type LNB's (available in my eBay store)." |
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Silver Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 893 Registered: Sep-06 | Ok I see your point Nalin as I read it for the same price roughly as a motor and the The Invacom QDH-031 you can get that bracket, the lnb's, and switches. Big differance would be the bracket only gets 5 birds were with the motor set up and clear view you can receive all the birds FTA and DBS adding over 300 more channels some ALWAYS working even when DN or BEV is down.... |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 4951 Registered: Jun-06 | THE FTA TESTER : I see your point too. |
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Bronze Member Username: VittuPost Number: 19 Registered: Oct-07 | Sim Kang: I have the same bracket that holds 5 lnb's. I do not care about 101. I am glad it worked for you. I may not be getting a clear view or not setting up skew properly. Which bird should you aim first? 119 or 82? Thanks for your input. |
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