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Bronze Member Username: Jalaj69Norcross , Georgia USA Post Number: 97 Registered: Sep-06 | does panset 2700a clone have the capability to get the DirecTV channels? The reason I am asking is because DirecTV is the only one who is showing the TWENTY/20 world cup cricket! please some one let me know thanks |
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Silver Member Username: BanejPost Number: 284 Registered: Jun-06 | you cannot get Dave with any boxes. their encryption is the toughest and so far noone has hacked it |
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Bronze Member Username: Fuji905On Canada Post Number: 16 Registered: Feb-07 | is anybody working on cracking Dave? |
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Silver Member Username: Thechiz2Mars, Ur anis Mine Post Number: 284 Registered: Apr-05 | a few not many because of fta |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 1399 Registered: Oct-06 | "their encryption is the toughest and so far noone has hacked it" I don't know about that Everything is breakable No FTA receiver that I know of can receive their programs. Encrypted or non-encrypted. How could yo hack something that yo can't receive? It will be available when MPEG-4 receivers and progrms become standards. I would say at least 18 to 24 months. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11848 Registered: Jan-06 | King ...U need to start testing...obviously U never tested Dave before... theres a reason, everybody switched from Dave to Charlie and Bev...and CAN hack DN and Bev, and NOT DTV (Dave)...time to stop the BS.. nagravision is cake...videogard is Steel! |
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Bronze Member Username: Fuji905On Canada Post Number: 17 Registered: Feb-07 | you would think that by now, somebody would be close....why wouldn't bev and charlie take on the same encryption? |
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Silver Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 743 Registered: May-06 | I have to agree with King. Everything IS hackable. Everything. The problem with dave is FTA is soooo easy. So is the card programming. If DN shut all that down, they would find a hack for dave. I am no programmer tho. It can be done.IMO |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11851 Registered: Jan-06 | U people got it all backwards...The ONLY reason FTA with DN and Bev is popular and became popular was DAVE shut the door!....they all use "encyption", but videogard2 has NOT ever been hacked...and videogard1 was only "partially" leaked by NDS, who made the DTV cards way back...it was never fully dumped! don't U think people would have hacked it and released if if they could!...its worth millions of $$$$....The ONLY reason DN, Bev and FTA is popular is because DTV hasn't been hacked since they changed in April 2004....and nagra 1 and nagra 2 both have! I can't believe I'm actually havng this ridiculous conversation.. kris...the encryptions are VERY secret, SECURED, and patented...DN and Bev cannot just take YEARS to figure out its source code and then start using it, like DTV has done... Bottom line is Videogard is Fort Knox, and Nagravision is wide open like the local brothel! |
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Silver Member Username: BanejPost Number: 285 Registered: Jun-06 | why are you people complaining you have thousands of channels available through Charlie and Bev. Coders are bussy as it is with these two, especially now that HD boxes are out on the FTA market. If we go black with everything they would probably try to hack Dave and yes everything is possible, but it takes so much time you people dont understand the code that needs to be written. Just enjoy your free tv while you have it and dont be so ungrateful |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 1400 Registered: Oct-06 | DTV will be available at your service within 18 months. As soon as FTA HD receivers available and BEV&DN turn cold. Take my word. ECM to plastic made Satellite providers seem to be in total control. Flashable FTA receivers is what changed entire industry. I worked on firmwares for more than a decade. I trained thousands of technicias on assembly language and yo tell me the problem is the password. LOL Encryption is a password. PERIOD. Every electronics service rely on passwords. Yo wanna believe King that's fine yo don't I have no discussion anyway. It is a matter of time until yo all understand what I say. When I guess I say "guess" when I post something about electronics yo can bank on it. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11870 Registered: Jan-06 | WTF...no, its NOT a simple password! encryption - the activity of converting data or information into code Encryption has long been used by militaries and governments to facilitate secret communication. Encryption is now used in protecting information within many kinds of civilian systems, such as computers, networks (e.g. the Internet e-commerce), mobile telephones, and bank automatic teller machines. Encryption is also used in digital rights management to restrict the use of copyrighted material and in software copy protection to protect against reverse engineering and software piracy. Strong (i.e., hard to break) Encryption algorithms are considered to be a munitions by the United States government. Exporting such algorithms therefore amounts to arms smuggling --a very serious offence! Some countries (i.e., France) forbid their citizens from using strong Encryption. In the United States, it is possible to patent an algorithm, including an Encryption Cipher. This can limit who can make such algorithms. |
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Silver Member Username: HardrockstrikerPost Number: 991 Registered: Apr-06 | Encryption is a sequence of mathematical operations - it's a recipe, so to speak. A password is simply the ingredients. Encryption, theoretically, works because it takes a message, altered by encrytpion, and makes it a simple problem for trusted parties to decrypt, but a VERY difficult problem for untrusted parties to decrypt. Normally, passwords are kept secret and the encryption (actual method of altering the data) is made public (known to everyone). RSA or SSL are examples of this. In DSS case, the password (keys) are public (we can see them, right?) and the method of encryption is kept secret in the access card. Unless the info (what's on the card) is leaked to the public, discovering what's on the card is very difficult (the difficult problem i mentioned earlier). But, not impossible to crack. I'm dead certain coders have been trying for years now to crack Dave. These people get a thrill out of a good challenge. |
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Silver Member Username: HardrockstrikerPost Number: 992 Registered: Apr-06 | Also, there's rumor that DTV P4/P5 has been 'privately' cracked, but I don't believe it. Crackers like to boast of their accomplishment so I'm sure they would have put it out publically, if the rumor were true. |
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Silver Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 748 Registered: May-06 | Anything ENcrypted can be DEcrypted? |
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Silver Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 750 Registered: May-06 | Im just saying that if DTV was the only game in town to hack. It would be hacked by now. |
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Bronze Member Username: Sandy12421Post Number: 22 Registered: Jul-06 | hey fta is working or not mine is not pls tell me isit working or not |
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Silver Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 754 Registered: May-06 | oh... ur gonna get bashed sandy. cant be stealing threads. even if no one helps u in another. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 1402 Registered: Oct-06 | Nothing is easy. Back engineering is never easy. But it is not impossible that's for sure. Algorithm is a sequence of opcode instructions. Everything on your firmware is a sequence of earthly opcodes. Spoof bin programs that you load to your receiver is made of Microprocessor opcodes. I said that 100 times already. Look yo don't have to believe me. Ask an experienced assembly programmer. What I'm saying is not a debate. How many people do yo know can do assembly with hardware background? Bottom line is Is videoguard breakable or not? I say is breakable. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11876 Registered: Jan-06 | Then break it!....do what other programmers and engineers have been trying to do for YEARS!....Then U will never have to work again! Talk is cheap!...now do the walk! |
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Silver Member Username: HardrockstrikerPost Number: 993 Registered: Apr-06 | Sure reverse engineering of electronics into code can be done. But the electronics in P4/P5 card are encased in a plastic than cannot be easily removed. So either we acid peel (very expensive), circuit probe (very time consuming and a lot of guessing involved), hope the info is leaked by designers (by payoffs or court proceedings), or by finding a flaw in circuitry (e.g. glitching). Here's a link to cambridge labs where they specialize in developping hardware security: http://www*cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/tamper/ (replace * with dot) |
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Silver Member Username: HardrockstrikerPost Number: 994 Registered: Apr-06 | Besides, I'm sure that copying certain technology could be against the law. We all know how aggressive Dave is. |
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Silver Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 759 Registered: May-06 | isnt the acid peel the way we got all info from the 102 cards? I know its expensive, but how much money would be made?? Im going to the hardware section of Walmart tonite!! Im gonna figure that p5 card out tomorrow! I will send you the new files soon. May have to go to ACE hardware to get the acid tho. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11879 Registered: Jan-06 | OH Geez...are U smoking crack?...U think that a trip to Walmart will provide the DTV hack...hell, thats the mentality around here.....LMAO |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 1403 Registered: Oct-06 | Great strategy boss It will be available soon But not by me Patience |
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Silver Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 761 Registered: May-06 | lol, LK, i have tried to see where u come from for a while now and do have great patience for u. The war, 60's, something has made u a very angry man. If u think I was serious about that post dude, then you my friend are the one smoking crack. I come here to chat with people who share my intrest in this hobby. I was trying to make light of the conversation. I cant figure out why in the h3ll you are here. You know everything!! You are like that chick on SNL when Peyton hosted it where she had to one-up everyone. Thats u dude. You start with ur sh1t for no reason. Man, if you really dont like it here the way you say... the door is in the upmost right of this screen. Its just like beauty... a click away... |
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Silver Member Username: HardrockstrikerPost Number: 996 Registered: Apr-06 | Hey, dantetn, you might want to go with something a little more gentle on the card with the acid peel. How about your wife's facial beauty peel? This way the circuits aren't harmed! lol |
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Silver Member Username: Donnie1973Post Number: 773 Registered: May-06 | Well Jason, her peel has to be pretty strong dude. I tried it earlier, and it melted the whole chip! lol, i better quit before she see this. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 1404 Registered: Oct-06 | LK I know yo waited 3 years to see the day dave get re-hacked. Relax this day will come with joy and happiness by people much better than me. I havn't programmed anything since 1999. For me to program now days I need ASSEMBLY VIAGRA Extra strength. If I didn't know better I'd say yo defend dave just as if yo work for him. Yo give them too much credit. Don't yo think they know they're next. They are scared cuz they know there is no escape. |
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Silver Member Username: Ustaad_hcPost Number: 254 Registered: Oct-06 | Posted By: Big Dismal on 09-05-2007 Original: hxxp://blog.wired.com/underwire/2007/08/directv-drm-gli.html Also: hxxp://www.p2pnet.net/story/13195 Nothing really to this story, just someones rather odd experience with DirecTV's DRM.... C&P: Wil Wheaton reports that sometime this afternoon his DirecTV stopped working: "In place of a picture -- on every single channel, whether it was local, over-the-air, HD, or anything else -- I got the error message in this image, which reads: "This program includes content protection that restricts viewing on the television attached to your DIRECTV receiver's HDMI connector." After spending a lot of time on the phone with DirecTV customer service, Wheaton and the tech determined that this was "some kind of DirecTV software glitch, which prevents TVs like mine from getting a picture to go with its sound." From the wording of the on-screen message, ("content protection", yo) it looks like an attempt on the part of DirecTV to instantiate some form of DRM -- an attempt that in this case has gone horribly wrong. Wheaton's been told that the software fix might take weeks, and that his only recourse was to to without Hi Def until things are better. [Comments: 0] DIRECTV: 'Optimistic' For Digital TV Switch Fix Posted By: Big Dismal on 09-05-2007 Original: hxxp://www.tvpredictions.com/directv090507.htm C&P: The satellite industry has warned the FCC that some local stations may delay in providing digital signals. Washington, D.C. (September 5, 2007) -- DIRECTV said last night that it's 'optimistic' that it will meet the federal deadline for switching all local stations from analog to digital. DIRECTV and satellite rival EchoStar last week warned the Federal Communications Commission they may not be able to deliver all local TV signals in digital when the nation switches to Digital TV on February 17, 2009. On the Digital TV transition date, all local broadcasters must switch their analog signals to digital which means viewers will need a pay TV service, a Digital TV or a digital converter box to watch television. But in statements submitted last week to the FCC, the satcasters say they likely won't be ready by February 17, 2009 if local broadcasters delay in switching from analog to digital. Consequently, satellite viewers of local channels that delay could lose those channels on the transition day (and for a period of time thereafter) because DIRECTV and EchoStar would not have time to convert the analog signals to digital. But Robert Mercer, a DIRECTV spokesman, told TVPredictions.com last night that an "overwhelming majority" of local stations are now transmitting in both analog and digital, meaning their digital signals are already available for the transition day. In addition, Mercer expressed hope that the FCC will grant the satellite industry's request to force local stations to reveal their digital plans by December 2007 and/or give satcasters more time to convert to digital if some stations wait until the last minute to make the switch. "So we're optimistic that we will make the transition. And the FCC will likely address the cut off issue," Mercer said. However, Mercer acknowledged that some stations could still delay in switching to digital which could cause viewing disruptions on transition day. "We also hope that the limited number of stations that need to flashcut (switch to digital on or near the transition day) would work with us in advance to establish a means to deliver us a good quality signal and avoid any disruption in service," he said. Noting that it now offers local TV service in 175 markets, EchoStar told the FCC last week that it would be impossible to switch each station's signal from analog to digital in a short period of time. "Given the magnitude of the switch-over...even conducting the transition over a matter of many months would be a substantial hurdle," EchoStar stated. |
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Silver Member Username: Ustaad_hcPost Number: 255 Registered: Oct-06 | Posted By: Big Dismal on 09-05-2007 Original: hxxp://blog.wired.com/underwire/2007/08/directv-drm-gli.html Also: hxxp://www.p2pnet.net/story/13195 Nothing really to this story, just someones rather odd experience with DirecTV's DRM.... C&P: Wil Wheaton reports that sometime this afternoon his DirecTV stopped working: "In place of a picture -- on every single channel, whether it was local, over-the-air, HD, or anything else -- I got the error message in this image, which reads: "This program includes content protection that restricts viewing on the television attached to your DIRECTV receiver's HDMI connector." After spending a lot of time on the phone with DirecTV customer service, Wheaton and the tech determined that this was "some kind of DirecTV software glitch, which prevents TVs like mine from getting a picture to go with its sound." From the wording of the on-screen message, ("content protection", yo) it looks like an attempt on the part of DirecTV to instantiate some form of DRM -- an attempt that in this case has gone horribly wrong. Wheaton's been told that the software fix might take weeks, and that his only recourse was to to without Hi Def until things are better. |
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Silver Member Username: Ustaad_hcPost Number: 265 Registered: Oct-06 | Intel Corporation and DirecTV Create DVR with media server Posted bytmaster on Thursday, September 28 @ 10:14:51 PDT Contributed by tmaster ntel Corporation and DirecTV unveiled details about the first digital set-top box with integrated digital media adapter (DMA) functionality verified to work with Intel Viiv technology. Through the DMA, the DirecTV digital set-top box will allow customers to access and enjoy their pictures and music on their TVs from Intel Viiv technology-based PCs. Intel President and CEO Paul Otellini gave detailed plans for the DirecTV Plus HD DVR in a keynote at the Intel Developer Forum. Otellini also reinforced that the DVR is in the final stages of Intel Viiv technology testing and verification. The DirecTV Plus HD DVR offers the ability to record and view 200 hours of standard definition content or 50 hours of MPEG 4 high-definition programming. |
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Bronze Member Username: Fuji905On Canada Post Number: 18 Registered: Feb-07 | anybody else have any insight on dave being de-coded? |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11912 Registered: Jan-06 | yeah...don't hold your breath...its been over 3 1/2 years since DTV has been available to peeps and testers... |