Key morphing
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3353 Registered: Jun-06 | A couple of weeks ago, the top bit of the first number in Key 00 and Key 01 were being inverted. This was fixed by new BINs, except that it took Pansat 2500 and clones fix to come out too late. Now it is Bit 6 and Bits 0 and 1 being inverted. Most of the receivers have had new BINs but fortec Ultra, and Pansat 2500 and clones Bins have not been corrected. Since you are going to get key morphing, you should understand it, because as soon as all receivers have been updated there might be another ECM with a different kind of key morphing. Better to know it now and learn how to combat it. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3354 Registered: Jun-06 | This explanation is for the current ECM. Binary representation of hex digits. 0 = 0 0 0 0''.1 = 0 0 0 1''.2 = 0 0 1 0 3 = 0 0 1 1''.4 = 0 1 0 0''.5 = 0 1 0 1 6 = 0 1 1 0''.7 = 0 1 1 1''.8 = 1 0 0 0 9 = 1 0 0 1''.A = 1 0 1 0''B = 1 0 1 1''. C = 1 1 0 0''.D = 1 1 0 1''E = 1 1 1 0''. F = 1 1 1 1 A key number C1 is represented in binary as 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 Note I just pick up the 4 buinary digits for C and the 4 binary digits for 7 Similarly 56 is 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 The latest key morphing using 294T BIN - how to correct it. Supposing the first number of a key is C1 The binary is 1 (1) 0 0 0 0 (0) (1) - the ones I have put in brackets have to be inverted i.e. Invert bits 0,1 and 6 (this is the designation of bits from right to left) The number becomes 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 which is 82 Similarly 56 which is 0 (1) 0 1 0 1 (1) (0) becomes 0 (0) 0 1 0 1 (0) (1) or 15 The binary digits in the brackets got inverted. The inversion correction is to be applied to the first number of Key 00 and of first number of key 01 |
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Silver Member Username: 1tina_chickPost Number: 101 Registered: Mar-06 | Nalin - I like learning about that stuff - Thanks !  |
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Silver Member Username: 1tina_chickPost Number: 102 Registered: Mar-06 | Hey I made Silver ! ...... I feel after all the crap I should be Gold ! |
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Gold Member Username: SatscannerBeaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ... Post Number: 2743 Registered: Nov-06 | Congratulations! You still have a sense of reality.When you get to gold,it's time for a phsiatric checkup .  |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3361 Registered: Jun-06 | bump |
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Silver Member Username: DoreenakadjPost Number: 494 Registered: Dec-06 |  |
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Bronze Member Username: ChechiPost Number: 37 Registered: Apr-06 | hi, I,m using the latest bin on a pansat 2500 clone, and I sort of understood the old morphing deal (add 8 to the first number, etc.), but I'm just not getting this new arithmetic. Can anyone provide a table/grid of all the numbers and letters, and their morphed counterparts? many thanks |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 287 Registered: Jul-06 | The easy way. After it rolls once and starts over.Change the first key #s as follows. Bev = - 4 on both 00 and 01 group. DN = + 4 on 00 and - 4 on 01. Count 0123456789abcdef. So if (9) then = 5 or d.Or f = b or 3 and so on.Depending whether + or -. |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 288 Registered: Jul-06 | For those with receivers that are morphing the first 2 numbers........... Good luck. |
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Silver Member Username: DoreenakadjPost Number: 499 Registered: Dec-06 |  Morphing at its finest this is some scary sh!t |
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Gold Member Username: SatscannerBeaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ... Post Number: 2761 Registered: Nov-06 | And both Republicans! |
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Bronze Member Username: ChechiPost Number: 42 Registered: Apr-06 | Thank you so much fk, I get it now. So a table would look like this: for 00 0+4=4 1+4=5 2+4=6 3+4=7 4+4=8 5+4=9 6+4=A 7+4=B 8+4=C 9+4=D A+4=E B+4=F C+4=0 D+4=1 E+4=2 F+4=3 and for 01... 0-4=C 1-4=D 2-4=E 3-4=F 4-4=0 5-4=1 6-4=2 7-4=3 8-4=4 9-4=5 A-4=6 B-4=7 C-4=8 D-4=9 E-4=A F-4=B Once again, thank-you, I was using the +-8 table someone provided on the new keys forum without really getting the logic of it (especially when numbers were added to letters!) |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3370 Registered: Jun-06 | 294T BIN and Bins older than 16th August, 2007 Turn on autoroll and allow keys to roll in. When it tries to cycle again, go into Nagravision and turn off autoroll. Then change the first number of keys. The following changes to be applied to the fist number of Key 00 and first number of key 01. The change to the first digit is different from change to 2nd digit. 1st digit of 1st number 0 to 3 '" add 4'..4 to 7 '" subtract 4 8 or C - change it to C or 8''.9 or D - change it to D or 9 A or E - change it to E or A''B or F- change it to F or B 2nd digit of 1st number 0 or 3 change to 3 or 0'..'1 or 2 - change to 2 or 1 4 or 7 change to 7 or 4'..'5 or 6 - change to 6 or 5 8 or B change to B or 8'..'9 or A - change to A or 9 C or F change to F or B'..'D or E - change to E or D Again, same changes to the first number of key 00 and key 01 |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 290 Registered: Jul-06 | No need to turn on autoroll.Leave it off.It rolls anyway.Then just add +,- to first digit. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3376 Registered: Jun-06 | flatulant kitty : It is not only the first digit, but also the second digit that is being altered. I suggest we wait till the next new keys to confirm, if my table above will work. it has worked with the last two key changes. |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 293 Registered: Jul-06 | I'm using 293t and its only the first digit. The second digit(w/other bin)is also a constant so easily calculated.But don't have one that has your problem. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3378 Registered: Jun-06 | Kitty: The keys just autorolled. On 294T bin the first number of key 00 was 65 and I changed it to 26 the first number of Key 01 was B9 and I changed it to FA. If the 293T Bin shows only the first digit changing, then it is a better BIN to have. Could you please elaborate. |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 294 Registered: Jul-06 | That binary crap you keep posting is to complicated for such a simple solution. From what you say the second digit is +or-3.Simple enough. |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 295 Registered: Jul-06 | Whats to elaborate? Bin 293t only morphs the first digit. |
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Silver Member Username: DoreenakadjPost Number: 506 Registered: Dec-06 | I've BIN thinking this key morphing stuff is geting old ...enough you two need to get a room KITTY AND NALIN |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3380 Registered: Jun-06 | Dorren: I have noted your posts and your ridicule. As soon as 295T BIN is out they will start morphing in a slightly different way. You all will be waiting for 1-5 days for the new files. I think it is better to establish which way the morphing occurs. For the time being, they do not have any other ECM than morphing the keys. If you cannot understand the table I have posted for the 294T BIN, then there is absolutely no need for you to look at this thread. |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 296 Registered: Jul-06 | 6/5 to 2/6 = -4/+1 B/9 to F/A = +4/+1 So second # looks to be a +1 constant with each roll. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3381 Registered: Jun-06 | flatulant kitty: I think the table is fairly easy to understand. I am sorry you do not understand. the +- 4 for first digit is OK if people understnad what A-F are. For the second digit, to suggest adding or subtracting 3 is PURE CRAP. I just told you that the first number rolled in as 65 , and I changed it to 26 as per table above. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3382 Registered: Jun-06 | 5 changes to 6, but when the second digit is 4, it will change to 7 and vice versa. The change is that the lowest two bits, bits 0 and bit 1 are being inverted. The table I posted is the one that can be used to get the full change properly for this ECM. |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 297 Registered: Jul-06 | So you must have missed the post before your last and seen the correction i made after reading the post you made before i read the one i missed. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11167 Registered: Jan-06 | who gives a flying fu*ck!...get a decent receiver and upload an autoroll...this is nonsense...cheap basta*rds!. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11168 Registered: Jan-06 | nalin...the money U save by stealing signals with FREE TV...U can buy another goat... |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 298 Registered: Jul-06 | Easy way....... First digit 00= +4 01= -4 Second digit 00=+1 01=+1 |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3383 Registered: Jun-06 | LK: You are an idiot and you do not understand this. So get out of this thread. You will know the value of this discussion when the next ECM comes and the BIN changes do not come through for 2 days. |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 300 Registered: Jul-06 | Fix my f'n 2500.Why would i want to buy anything else when it works perfectly.Don't need no viewcrap or crapsat.It still has autoroll,mostly.Not till it burst into flames.Till then whatever works is good enough.I'm 133% satisfied with what i have,so blow me Seaman. |
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Gold Member Username: PrfrmnjPost Number: 2826 Registered: Oct-05 | It doesn't take a genius to figure out that as soon as a fix is available for the current EMM then a different approached will be taken. That's not inside information, that's just a well educated guess.... DN has not given up and will not give up so logic dictates that as soon as they coders fix one thing they will come out with another. Anyone can call that one! |
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Silver Member Username: Flatulant_kittyPost Number: 301 Registered: Jul-06 | All this does is save you from having to look up the keys.For those of us who have been abandoned by slimy money grubbing azzhole BL. As soon as they knock out the latest fixes this math will be useless.Just hope the next calculations are as easy. |
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Silver Member Username: DoreenakadjPost Number: 510 Registered: Dec-06 | List of numbers -- Integers ← 0 100 200 300 400 500 600 700 800 900 → 666 Cardinal Six hundred [and] sixty-six Ordinal 666th Factorization Greek numeral χξς' Roman numeral DCLXVI Binary 1010011010 Octal 1232 Hexadecimal 29A Base32 KQ Base36 II 666 is an abundant number. It is the sum of the first 36 natural numbers (i.e. 1 + 2 + 3... + 34 + 35 + 36 = 666), and thus a triangular number. Since 36 is both square and triangular, 666 is the sixth number of the form n2(n2 + 1) / 2 (see (sequence A037270 in OEIS)) and the eighth number of the form n(n + 1)(n2 + n + 2) / 8 (doubly triangular numbers, A002817.) 666 is the sum of the squares of the first seven prime numbers (i.e. 22 + 32 + 52 + 72 + 112 + 132 + 172 = 666). The harmonic mean of the decimal digits of 666 is (trivially) an integer: 3/(1/6 + 1/6 + 1/6) = 6, making 666 the 54th number with this property. In base 10, 666 is a palindromic number, a repdigit and a Smith number. A prime reciprocal magic square based on 1/149 in base 10 has a magic total of 666. The Roman numeral representation of the number 666 (DCLXVI) uses once each the Roman numeral symbols with values under 1,000, occurring in descending order of their respective values (D = 500, C = 100, L = 50, X = 10, V = 5, I = 1). 666 is a member of the Indices of prime Padovan sequence, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 14, 19, 30, 37, 84, 128, 469, 666, 1262, 1573, 2003, 2210, .... Sorry but this is bringing out the beast in me GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11170 Registered: Jan-06 | Nalin is a whore immigrant who sucks goat and camel dick!...the ONLY numbers she knows is "how many inches" was it! |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3384 Registered: Jun-06 | For 294T BIN and Bins older than 16th August, 2007 Turn on autoroll and allow keys to roll in. When it tries to cycle again, go into Nagravision and turn off autoroll. Then change the first number of keys. The following changes to be applied to the fist number of Key 00 and first number of key 01. The change to the first digit is different from change to 2nd digit. 1st digit of 1st number 0 to 3 '" add 4'..4 to 7 '" subtract 4 8 or C - change it to C or 8''.9 or D - change it to D or 9 A or E - change it to E or A''B or F- change it to F or B 2nd digit of 1st number 0 or 3 change to 3 or 0'..'1 or 2 - change to 2 or 1 4 or 7 change to 7 or 4'..'5 or 6 - change to 6 or 5 8 or B change to B or 8'..'9 or A - change to A or 9 C or F change to F or B'..'D or E - change to E or D Again, same changes to the first number of key 00 and key 01 |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11174 Registered: Jan-06 | For 294T BIN and Bins older than 16th August, 2007.. Turn OFF autorolls and MANUALLY INPUT THE KEYS...IT TAKES 1 MINUTE...ITS THAT SIMPLE! |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3394 Registered: Jun-06 | When the keys change while you are watching TV, the screen goes blank. and is waiting. That is when you follow the instructions I have given and correct the downloaded new keys. This applies currently to 294T BIN. In other words, you do not have to wait for somebody to post new keys when they chamge. You CAN get them on 294T BIN. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11177 Registered: Jan-06 | Maybe U wait WAIT, but I sure don't....keys are posted here IMMEDIATELY by everyone!... and if U were not so cheap, U would buy a decent receiver with working AUTOROLL support...the ONLY receivers that don't autoroll are OLD or garbage clones...the cheap stuff!...the money people SAVE in 1 month of using FTA, they could buy a decent receiver with! MORPH THIS! |
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Bronze Member Username: KazanrovPost Number: 13 Registered: Jan-07 | the new keys pllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. |
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Silver Member Username: Jorge_luisMONTERREY Post Number: 699 Registered: Jul-06 |  |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3395 Registered: Jun-06 | LK: Learn from your mistakes. On August 16, 2007 - 01:56 pm you post new keys quickly. At 3.12 pm Khopdi pointed out to you that they are not good. At 3.29 pm, Khopdi said '" never mind. He had discovered that the beginning 20 in Key 01 should be 63 and not 20. This conforms to he bit inversions I have pointed out. At 04:20 pm you tried to give an explanation. You did not know that the FC in Key 00 should have been BF for a reason '" the same as I have pointed out in this thread FC had to be manually changed to BF, as per table I have posted here. Then the big ones came out with the correction, so now people have not problem with those receivers, but the Pansat 2500 and Fortec ultra (294T BIN) has not had a correction yet. By the time BL comes out with a 295 BIN, or soon after that there will be a slight shift in the key morphing ECM. If I am around and I can spot the key inversion pattern, I will post it and alert people. My current alert applies mainly to 294 and 294T BINs. Those who are reading this and familiar with binary representation of hex numbers, can do the same easily. The main thing to remember is that it is not a simple arithmetic of +-, but inversion of a bit '" a particular binary bit is changed form 0 to 1 or 1 to 0. Betfor 16th August it was the top bit only (bit 7) of the first number in both keys '" hence somebody posted +- 8 correction. Currently since 16th August, it is Bits 6,1 and 0 and hence the complicated table above. This correction is already accounted for in the 17th August BINs of Viewsat family and most of the Pansats except 2500A, clones and Fortec. **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- LK Platinum Member Username: Lklives Post Number: 11058 Registered: Jan-06 Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 01:56 pm: yes new keys a few minutes ago...be patient while keys autoroll (1 min-1 hour)...usually 2-10 minutes.. Dish Network (0101) (Last Update: Thu. Aug 16, 2007 1:24 PM EST) Key 00/86: FC 0D 6F DA DB 69 4D 31 F5 70 2B 40 A8 F8 28 03 New Active Key 01/96: 20 75 F2 E9 83 31 B5 6F 33 60 5B 1F 36 2D 48 7D Bell ExpressVu (0901) ''''''''''''. **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- Khopdi Bronze Member Username: Khopdi Post Number: 51 Registered: Apr-07 Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 03:12 pm: LK - Please varify keys. The links listed below all have same keys. The keys you have posted do not match the links. Please confirm correct keys. [link removed] [link removed] [link removed] **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- Khopdi Bronze Member Username: KhopdiPost Number: 52 Registered: Apr-07Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 03:29 pm: LK - Nevermind. I got it. The correct keys are as follows: 00:FC 0D 6F DA DB 69 4D 31 F5 70 2B 40 A8 F8 28 03 New Active 01:63 75 F2 E9 83 31 B5 6F 33 60 5B 1F 36 2D 48 7D 01 begains with 63, not 20. **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- LK Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11069 Registered: Jan-06Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 04:20 pm: Listen people...DN changed the keys (1:24pm EST) to a B1 EMM (intended to disable all receivers using autoroll) earlier that I posted above... but then quickly reverted back to the old keys from early this morn and late last nite, cause it must have affected some subs...but now DN has just changed again...and so has Bev... Dishnet 0101 ..(Last Update: Thu. Aug 16, 2007 4:00 PM EST) 86: BF 0D 6F DA DB 69 4D 31 F5 70 2B 40 A8 F8 28 03 Active 96: 63 75 F2 E9 83 31 B5 6F 33 60 5B 1F 36 2D 48 7D |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11189 Registered: Jan-06 | nalin...GET A JOB!....U are here 24/7...I'm retired!...but U are a non retiree and a non working immigrant ,, sucking the welfare system, who is here 24/7...instead of working! I notice U are here in the mornings, afternoons, evenings, and late nights on a DAILY basis...EVERY DAY!...so don't even give me another lie about U having ANY type of employment |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3401 Registered: Jun-06 | LK: You are here 25 hours of the day, 8 days of the week, 32 days of the month, and 367 days of the year. You go and get a job, so people can have peace here and less of interruptions of your insane posts. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11192 Registered: Jan-06 | I'm retired after serving my country with 30 years in the military...I paid my dues!....unlike U who is a sponge of the welfare system... |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3407 Registered: Jun-06 | LK: You are here 25 hours of the day, 8 days of the week, 32 days of the month, and 367 days of the year. You go and get a job, so people can have peace here and less of interruptions of your insane posts. |
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Silver Member Username: DoreenakadjPost Number: 511 Registered: Dec-06 | NALIN PLEASE stop with the NUMBERS ....your post numbers are getting higher just buy posting all about numbers BTW i get my key changes from TVKEYS and they give you the RIGHT keys SOOOOOOOOOO i dont have to do the math and or HEX code changes to the "1st digit"or " 2nd digit of 1st number. All i do is change them as i SEE them SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP IT ....please YOU ARE DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3408 Registered: Jun-06 | Doreen: If you do not like my posts you do not have to read them. On the other hand you have a receiver with 294T BIN and if there is a sudden key change and you wish to continue viewing you can update the keys without having to go anywhere to look for them. The method is there, the choice is yours whether you wish to use it or not. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 1252 Registered: Oct-06 | Interesting guys!!! Wooo Doreen you got hex and octals too I think I missed that morphing Hey Nalin I'm not following your inverting hex maybe cuz I don't know what they are changing What numbers have they been changing? I'll give the formula I love hex work There is nothing wrong with that What I'm asking: what are the numbers before and after morphing? |
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Silver Member Username: DoreenakadjPost Number: 512 Registered: Dec-06 | Nalin i have High speed internet and my laptop is wireless my fortec receiver is in my bedroom 10 feet away from my laptop ... when the keys change i can get them very quickly. besides if i am watching a movie that i happen to like and the keys change on my fortec I go out into the livingroom and watch the same movie on my veiwsat or BEV reciever thats in the familyroom downstairs. SO i am NOT without TV When i get the CW600 preimum then i will have even more chances to keep watching TV without having to change the keys . with any luck a new autoroll will come out for my fortec but i don't really care its soon to be a doorstop anyway. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3409 Registered: Jun-06 | King Tapeman :Around 3-4 August, a minor ECM by the big ones - they were inverting bit 7 of the first number in key 00 and key 01. At a more practical level somebody interpreted it as +- 8. The big receivers quickly got a fix, so this info became irrelevant except to the owners of Pansat 2500A and clones and of Fortec Ultra. Around 15-16 August we finally got a fix for the 2500A, when a new ECM started. This was inversion of bits 6,1, and 0 of the first number in both keys. This meant +-4 to the first digit and a peculiar +-3 or +-1 to the second digit. I produced a table, so people can easily do it. Currently it is relevant for Pansat 2500A and clones including FLU. I expect that soon after BL comes out with a fix, they will change the ECM and apply inversion to another or several other bits. 1st digit.....2nd digit 0 = 4 ........ 0 = 3 1 = 5 ........ 1 = 2 2 = 6 ........ 2 = 1 3 = 7 ........ 3 = 0 4 = 0 ........ 4 = 7 5 = 1 ........ 5 = 6 6 = 2 ........ 6 = 5 7 = 3 ........ 7 = 4 8 = C ....... 8 = B 9 = D ....... 9 = A A = E ....... A = 9 B = F ........ B = 8 C = 8 ....... C = F D = 9 ....... D = E E = A ....... E = D F = B ....... F = C |
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New member Username: SlimthugPost Number: 8 Registered: Aug-07 | need help my viewsat extreeme signal was knocked out about 16 august and don't matter what new keys i put in still wont work need help. |
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Silver Member Username: DoreenakadjPost Number: 513 Registered: Dec-06 | Jah this isn't the thread you need for veiwsat go to dss community look under the veiwsat area for new fix " DBPSW-070817X " ( autoroll working ) This thread is for FLU and cloned receivers that do not have autoroll |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 1254 Registered: Oct-06 | But how do you know if they are morphing from totally changing keys? What I'm thinking they maybe selecting the specific bit within the key change This is the kind of stuff I like to monitor |
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Bronze Member Username: Omen_2Post Number: 34 Registered: Feb-07 | Nalin these stupid asssholes here know nothing about this high tech stuff they only know what they read on the websites you are wasting your time |
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Silver Member Username: AmexPost Number: 375 Registered: Nov-06 |  . |
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Silver Member Username: AmexPost Number: 376 Registered: Nov-06 |  |
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Bronze Member Username: Omen_2Post Number: 37 Registered: Feb-07 | HEY F@g don't you get tired of posting the same bullshit? |
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Silver Member Username: AmexPost Number: 387 Registered: Nov-06 |  . |
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Bronze Member Username: Omen_2Post Number: 45 Registered: Feb-07 | you should know you get it up there all the time |
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Bronze Member Username: NesteaPost Number: 77 Registered: Jul-06 | Sorry guys for this question. Can somebody please tell me how to open a serial port in pentium 4 computer. Window xp. I can't load bin to my viewsat utral. Thanks. |
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Gold Member Username: SatscannerBeaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ... Post Number: 2789 Registered: Nov-06 | Bitchh Boi  |
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Bronze Member Username: Omen_2Post Number: 54 Registered: Feb-07 | You are a true sorry s motherfuccker correction a stupid motherfuccker |
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Gold Member Username: SatscannerBeaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ... Post Number: 2800 Registered: Nov-06 |  Comming from you ,I'll take that as a compliment!  |
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Bronze Member Username: TruckerPost Number: 68 Registered: Oct-05 | "Buch James" you need to take a good look in the mirror. your the only stupid motherfuccker in this thread. oh by the way i did your mom last night and it felt good. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11217 Registered: Jan-06 | Maybe everybody should chill...the entire forums has gone a little crazy and the true newbies aren't getting the help...and yes, I'm to blame as well... I myself, am tired of being bashed and bashing nalin (who I can't stand)....how about we all give it a rest and start reading the other threads and helping the newbies...and try and ignore the "nalins" and her troublemaking friends here... |
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Silver Member Username: AmexPost Number: 396 Registered: Nov-06 | The likes of Nalin, Buch Boy, etc, are using "Terrorist Tactics" to provoke chaos and mayhem destined to destroy our cherished forums....... Yesterday, they partially got what they intended.... lets not fall for their game...... So, indeed, a good measure would be ignoring those miserable scumbags........ or applying whatever intelligent countermeasures necessary..... Brothers (and Sisters) in Arms, Peace, Love & Understanding to you all......... . |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11228 Registered: Jan-06 | As I have always stated...nalin and these other troublemaker nicks are INTENTIONALLY destroying these forums and FTA, cause they are DN/Bev authorities....or they are admins here, purposely trying to get the internet posts and hits up to remain #1 at Google for MONETARY purposes.....they are NOT who they present themselves as....they have ben here for years using other nicks....Ecoustics has been recogized throughout the entire DSS world for their troublemaking practices...they have ulterior bad intentional motives for their actions...and we are feeding right into their hands...so lets just ignore them, and not play into thier hands..and be smarter than them...I know its hard to ignore, but lets all try! |
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Silver Member Username: 1tina_chickPost Number: 104 Registered: Mar-06 | You Must admit this is the Best Damn Fourm out....... Let's All chill and help the FTA world........  |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 11231 Registered: Jan-06 | Best as in confrontational or quick keys...worse forums for info and NO files! |
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Bronze Member Username: Omen_2Post Number: 58 Registered: Feb-07 | Tina you have said a mouth full now you will have to excuse me. I may have to work late again to night the wolves here are getting out of hand. .I was late for my job today I can't be late again. Have no fear Buch Boy will soon be here. I will come in Peach. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3411 Registered: Jun-06 | King Tapeman : As I stated earlier,, currently they are inverting bits 6,1,and 0 of 1st number of both key 00 and key 01. Before 17th august, they were inverting bit 7 only. The current bit inversion can also be described as real_number = autorolled_number XORed with 43H. This applies to first number of key 00 and key 01. There are people here who get upset because I can come up with the solution. You and I have worked with Hex and Binary and you know it is simple binary arithmatic. |
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Silver Member Username: KingusamaPost Number: 245 Registered: May-06 | New keys posted at |
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Silver Member Username: FastbeatzPost Number: 196 Registered: Sep-06 | does this work for c00lsat...keymorphing?? |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3415 Registered: Jun-06 | The technique of changing the first number of both keys described here works on all BINs that were made before the 16-17th August ECM. Note that most receivers have a new BIN out since, except for the Pansat 2500A and clones and fortec Ultra. Anyway, it can't hurt to try changing the first number using the above table. At the very worst it may nor work and you will then have to run to the internet to find out. |
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Silver Member Username: AmexPost Number: 403 Registered: Nov-06 | This is the kind of evil and treacherous snake Nalin Nyda really is........... While LK accepts Nalin's apologies and offers him to chill and work together for the good of our cherished forums,..... Nalin (showing his true sinister nature) backstabbs him in the most despicable unimaginable manner......... https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/suggestions/381862.html . |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 3423 Registered: Jun-06 | Mr. Bill: You said "While LK accepts Nalin's apologies". You must be kidding. I have not and will not apologise to LK for anything except a genuine mistake. In my dealing with her I have not come accross any incidence where I have made such a genuine mistake |
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Silver Member Username: KingusamaPost Number: 249 Registered: May-06 | visit |
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New member Username: MilisecPost Number: 1 Registered: Aug-07 | I am new at this forum. I see how disgusting is to see grown animals miss behaving where real people who want to learn to fix their boxes.Why the person or moderator in charge does not ban these intruders? I am happy to learn the lesson given about binary and hexadecimal from these persons, teaching us how to prepair for future ECMs. I hate to wait for months to get my keys, the way it happended way past. I was a member of the military and believe that I should behave properly any time as long as I live. A sick person would do what I see here at this site. Acting irrationally does not represent a good example to our nation. |
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Silver Member Username: DoreenakadjPost Number: 521 Registered: Dec-06 | Alex please don't think we are out to stop Nalin. I for one am Not ... I just like to bug him. He is a smart man i am sure but so are others like LK etc... Once you get to know US here at the forum you will see that we all bug each other for no good reason .. Mostly because we are bored.. Anyway as for the key change Nalin is posting about .... do yourself a favor and get a newer receiver with autoroll. FLU and other clones are going to be door stops soon . They will not keep making bins for these out dated receivers for much longer. Yes the Nalin method does work but so does TVKEYS.com or others key finders. Once the new ECM is out this will know longer work and we are left without TV again for months maybe even for good FTA may not be FREE any more. |
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Silver Member Username: DoreenakadjPost Number: 522 Registered: Dec-06 | Tina "helping the FTA world". Who is going to help? We are only pirates uploading hacked bin file. We don't write them. Intact all we really do is STEAL FTA waves using cracked codes. Blacklist is giving up on us and soon Chancysand will fallow. They don't want to waste their time on old technology. Things are changing and we have to change with the times or we "the FTA world" will have no choice but to PAY for TV... It happened to DTV. Starchoice came up with the first "hacker proof" system and soon Dishnet and BEV will do the same. So i ask again WHO will help the FTA world ? Will Viewsat ? |
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Silver Member Username: ThemangodPost Number: 163 Registered: Oct-06 | if you need a good key grabber use [link removed] simple easy to use and works! key master 4.0 has had some issues and not always worked for all users. this one is very simple to use. |
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Gold Member Username: Crazy_greekPost Number: 1099 Registered: Jul-06 |  There are lot of True FTA Satellites out there. With a motorized Dish, you can pickup over (600) Channels and with antenna on the roof you can pickup all of your local Channels, most in HD. FTA TV will never die. FTA Radio Frequencies have been here now for over 100 years since Marconi's invention of the Radio. Don't worry be happy, have fun. |
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Silver Member Username: DoreenakadjPost Number: 523 Registered: Dec-06 | And what of the C.R.T.C. ( Canadian Televison Radio Corp.) they are putting up more and more towers to block out FREE tv. Its harder to use "Bunny Ears" for crying out loaud. LOL If they get there way we wont have free anything. |
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Gold Member Username: SatscannerBeaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ... Post Number: 2821 Registered: Nov-06 | Over the air ?Not were I'm located , Maybe one snow channel on a clear day.  This what I get.  |
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