Bronze Member Username: Hockeys_backPost Number: 50 Registered: Oct-05 | Just got my 50" samsung plasma, and can't decide on cable or satellite HD. any suggestions.......... |
Silver Member Username: TapemanNew York, NY Post Number: 905 Registered: Oct-06 | I suggest i/o cable You can get phone, internet, HD cable TV all for about $100 Expect many changes in 2007,2008 concerning HD broadcast equipement. Cable is the least expensive solution with no contract to sign. Also order a TVIO/DVR But nothing yet in MPEG-4 they are all using MPEG-2 and this is one of the main reasons I won't recommend buying the equipement with Satellite services. It is better to rent them from Cable for $5 to $6 a month. Second choice will be Verizon FIOS again all 3 for about $100. don't get me wrong Satellite is best quality today especially DTV and DN but contract for 18 months to 2 years is a bit too much during these rapid changes in HD telvesion broadcast. Another inexpensive methode is HDTV antenna: Read my thread starting post# 614 https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/330353.html Ask questions here in this thread Best of luck for your HD choice King |
Silver Member Username: Formerly_fxDallas, Tx Post Number: 254 Registered: Mar-06 | "Expect many changes in 2007,2008 concerning HD broadcast equipement." Actually don't ecpect any changes in broadcast equipment. For many many years to come the only broadcasts available will be in 480i, (480p very rarely) 720p and 1080i. Do not hold your breath waiting for 1080p broadcasts, King will be dead and buried long before that happens. xvxvxvx |
Silver Member Username: TapemanNew York, NY Post Number: 979 Registered: Oct-06 | The guy is asking what is a better choice Cable or Satellite Sorry Mr. Hockey Too much cartoon can effect some replies Off Topic Sorry for Toronto and Monteral will be out tonight By NY Islenders But I'm a big Rangers Fan See ya at the Playoffs Hockey is Back |
Silver Member Username: Alright_boyPost Number: 134 Registered: Jan-07 | King, what is your best guess as to when they will go to MPEG-4? I've heard so many conflicting reports. |
Silver Member Username: TapemanNew York, NY Post Number: 999 Registered: Oct-06 | Who will go to MPEG-4 In broadcast HD is in MPEG-4 SD in MPEG-2 Some DVRs and Tivos still use MPEG-2 to record HD until they standarize either HD or Blu-ray Direct TV use lower HD resolution than 1920x1080i to save bandwidth but still in MPEG-4 I hope this answer your question |
Silver Member Username: Formerly_fxDallas, Tx Post Number: 262 Registered: Mar-06 | Time to correct more bad information. Broadcast data from the broadcasters (CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX and so on) is not compressed using any compression algorithim like MPEG2 or MPEG4, so King is misleading in his response, again. Now the SAT companies rebroadcast using data compression, some (but not many) cable channels are compressed. Besides bandwidth is more important in regard to quality than either MPEG2 or MPEG4. xvxvxvx |
Silver Member Username: TapemanNew York, NY Post Number: 1000 Registered: Oct-06 | Are you now explaining how compression works? I do this for a living. Go see a doctor. Get yourself checked buddy don't ignore. |
Silver Member Username: Formerly_fxDallas, Tx Post Number: 263 Registered: Mar-06 | I am not offering a tutorial on compression, just correcting your assertion that television data is transmitted (broadcast) in a compressed format, it is not. What does you being a sat company installer have to do with any of the posts you make anyway? xvxvxvx |
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York, NY Post Number: 1001 Registered: Oct-06 | Listen scoob You sound like a nice guy I should of not said what I got above. I'm really sorry about it. I do truely know this stuff very well. I got over 50 people work under me. So many high tech staff calling me to explain how these things work in a simple down to earth explaination. Did it occur to you that I might be telling you the truth. Compression is not the same as lowering resolution. Compression in Mega pixel (like photo camera 5M or 6M) Resolution is a frame size like 1920x1080 or 1440x1080 Encoding is both compression and frame size Form either QPSK or MPEG or 8PSK For HD they use MPEG-4 (8PSK) For SD they use MPEG-2 (QPSK is for DTV instead of MPEG-2) p= 60 frames per second i= 30 frames per second NTSC is 30 frames per second PAL is 25 frames per second every second goes by on TVscreen (for each frame) You watched 1440x1080 or up to 1920x1080 No hard feelings (please trust me on what I say) |
Silver Member Username: Alright_boyPost Number: 152 Registered: Jan-07 | Great answer. Thanks a lot. |
Silver Member Username: Formerly_fxDallas, Tx Post Number: 264 Registered: Mar-06 | No hard feelings from me I hope you feel the same. As for your last post in this thread I agree with it completely. What I disagreed with as I stated above is that the initial broadcast feeds that got out OTA and the one that is captured by the Sat companies and cable companies for retransmission has no compression and maximum bandwidth unless the local broadcast station chooses to multicast simultaneous digital channels which will decrease the bandwidth per channel added. Compression techniques such as MPEG2 and MPEG4 only matter during either retransmission or when encoding/ripping to DVD's. xvxvxvx |
Silver Member Username: Alright_boyPost Number: 157 Registered: Jan-07 | fx, you old av dog. Just like the old days. Really appreciate your perspective on these things. |