I have a dish500 with dp plus lnb and I have a visionplus starboxI've been told that I need a dpp44 switch.since the starbox doesnt supply enough power.I've also been told that I dont need the switch unless I add an lnb or another dish.I cant get a signal.If I get the switch will that make it work?Or should I replace the lnb?I'm not sure where to go from here.Any input woud be greatly appreciated.
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 01:33 pm:
Dish Pro Twin or Quad & Dish Pro Plus Twin
I am going to attempt to clarify what appears to be a big confusion for some and the topic of misquoting for others.
First things first -- Dish Pro Equipment is very FTA Friendly and probably the easiest to set up. It is the setup and understanding of this equipment that give some people headaches. There is a big difference between Dish Pro LNB's and Dish Pro Plus.
Similarities:
- They both have a built in switch which allows for direct connection to the receiver.
- They can be used to bring in the signal of any combination of two satellites provided they are less then 10 degrees apart.
- They work with most if not all FTA Receiver on the market today.
- They can be mounted on a Dish500 dish.
Differences:
- Power requirement for the Dish Pro Plus is higher then the regular Dish Pro which creates the necessity to either keep a DN Receiver connected to port #1 of the LNB or to use a Power Insert.
- DISEqC Software requirements are different for both LNBs.
- Dish Pro Plus has a built in 3 way switch and one input which allows you to receive signal from two different satellites with the main LNB and add a third satellite by installing a variety of LNB/Dish combination.
- Dish Pro Plus LNB signal can be split when using DN Dual Tuners.
- You CANNOT split the signal with a regular Dish Pro Twin or Quad LNB.
Dish Pro 34 Switches and Dish Pro Plus 44
READ CAREFULLY -- While you can use a Dish Pro Switch with Dish Pro Plus LNB's, you CANNOT use a Dish Pro Plus switch with a Dish Pro LNB
- Dish Pro 34 switches are very easy to use and install.
UNLIKE MOST WHO REPEAT WHAT I SAY AND THEN DO SO INCORRECTLY
- The Dish Pro 34 switch does NOT require an addition power source. You can use this switch with any of your FTA Receivers and NOT need to keep your regular DN receiver!
Only use this switch to run a 3 satellite 4 receiver system with a Dish Pro Twin LNB.
If you are going to run a 2 satellite system and 4 receivers then just use a Dish Pro Quad.
- The Dish Pro Plus 44 switch DOES require a power insert which is provided with the switch. I would NOT recommend using this switch as you really don't gain anything with it unless you are running a complete DN installation and not FTA.
Bottom Line -- You can use Dish Pro Plus equipment and if you want the setups I will be more then glad to help you with it, but it is not worth the headache!
Even if you have a dual tuner which requires the Dish Pro Plus capabilities, you can always run to lines into that tuner from a regular Dish Pro LNB. Not to mention you can combine the Dish Pro 34 switch with up to 4 switches and get up to 12 receivers!
The biggest problem I've seen from people attempting to use Dish Pro and Dish Pro Plus LNB's is performing scans. They end up with repeated channels! There is a technique to performing a perfect scan and is addressed in my follow-up post.
There is no substitute for testing and testing is where you will gain knowledge!
As I said before -- FOR THOSE WHO WILL QUOTE OR JUST REPEAT WHAT I SAY -- I rather you cut and past the information correctly and give credit where credit is due or at least quote the information correctly!
This thread is not open to discussion unless you bring testing knowledge to the table and not what you've read.
OH YES -- for the trouble makers around here, don't bother posting -- YOU WILL BE IGNORED...
PRFRMNJ Gold Member Username: Prfrmnj
Post Number: 2044 Registered: Oct-05
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 01:35 pm:
Perfect Scan with Dish500 and DishPro (Twin or Quad) or DishProPlus Twin LNB
-First you will need to reset factory defaults
-Then go into your Antenna Setup and configure
NOTE: If you are using Fortec or Pansat you will need to unselect the bird you are not scanning. To do this, use the arrows on your remote to deselect the sat.
- You will then set your LNB type to Standard and select the port on the DISEcQ where for this sat (119 = 1 & 110 = 2).
NOTE: If you are scanning 119 then 110 should be unselected and in the DISEcQ option it should read NONE.
- Now commence your blind scan.
NOTE: At the end of this process do the same for next sat repeating the steps above. Once you have completed all scans you will need to go back and reconfigure your antennas as follows:
For Fortecs and Pansats:
LNB TYPE = DishPro DISEcQ -- 119 = 1 and 110 = 2.
The remaining options will stay the same. Keep in mind that depending on your location you may or may not have any signal on the first TP that appears in your settings for 119. Do not alarm yourself with this.
For Viewsat Owners the steps are pretty similar, but all you do is turn the LNB Power Off in the Antenna Setup.
Once completed you will need to reconfigure as follows:
- Power requirement for the Dish Pro Plus is higher then the regular Dish Pro which creates the necessity to either keep a DN Receiver connected to port #1 of the LNB or to use a Power Insert.
this is the part that you realy want to know about. but figured since PRFRMJ's post was so good i'd copy/paste the whole thing to you
Thank you very much MrPig that explains everything and then some.Do you have any experience with the visionplus starbox usb?Or progdvb? Thanks again for the excellent info
Ordered a dp34 switch and I'm waiting ,so until I get it I'll be gathering info.If I read correctly I DO need the switch.I tried using a cheap signal meter but didnt get any sinal,Once I install the dp34 switch I should get a signal on the meter correct?And ultimately be able to get a signal on my pc setup .