I saw this and wondered if anyone can make any sence of this not sure if true but came from very good source > SI internal memo intercept > And I quote > > ...engineering has approved two more countermeasures > scheduled for Fall / 2006. ST engineers suggested the first > method based on the use of the hardware accelerator...and > Kudelski SA recommended the CAM-IRD challenge-response > (strong authentication) method. ...both countermeasures are > directed at unauthorized set-top boxes. Nagrastar engineers > are working on the updates to the uplink transport stream. > > ...they will start with one round of RSA on the control > words prior to the Secure Hash. This will be followed by a > second round of RSA after the Secure Hash if needed. (HCU-1 > and HCU-2) > ...SI contracted xxxxxxxxxxx headed by Dr. xxxxx xxxxxxxxx > to test the conexant cx-xxxxxxx, STi-xxxxx and other ARM > based processors. > ...the reports concluded that 225 MIPS would be required for > the 2 rounds of RSA... > > ...MDC-2 (handshake update) will be implemented after all > barker IRDs are revised...and will support the > zero-knowledge strong authentication protocol between CAM > and IRD. (HCU-3) > > ...they also want the HCU-1 countermeasure to coincide with > the Oceanside...but engineering can't confirm. xxxxx xxxxxx > will provide more details but.... > > Brandon Malli > NagraStar - Senior Security Engineer > 90 Inverness Circle East > Englewood, CO 80112 > Direct - 303.706.5742
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#2 2006-11-09, 08:22 PM rtoodee2 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,682
No wonder Beegee was fired from their security section... LOL
I think that Mr. Mali, if this is a true intercept, may also be on his way out...
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#3 2006-11-09, 09:28 PM 97tubby DSS-Newbies Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Moldavia Posts: 560
this came from a good source for what?? __________________
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#4 2006-11-09, 09:33 PM whatsup745 Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Great White North Posts: 6,088
There is always an ECM coming !! Thats not the question...its when that is the question people wanna know. Not that knowing is going to prevent it from happening or anything.
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i just saw this and thought i would post it under rumer section. no big deal was just wondering what people thoguht about it thank you for your input and i agree with you
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#6 2006-11-09, 09:58 PM rtoodee2 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,682
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Can't see it being anything that the coders can't handle, They must be getting bored anyways. __________________ Testing Viewsat Platinum, Extreme, and Captiveworks CW600s
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I don't know if an ecm is coming but I have begun to lose some adult channels and some ppv channels are beginning to garble. It may be the real deal. But I'm not worried. If it is Mr Viewsat will be on it and down time will be minumum. LONG LIVE MR VlEWSAT.
Nothing has been detected in the stream from what I've heard. So, I don't think the ecm has started.
But, what you've (Colin) mentioned above was proposed in early summer. It's supposed to be an attack on receivers (non-FTA) with card. That's the cam-ird protocol bit.
FTA should be able to emulated the cam-ird protocol in a new bin.
guys ..this is NOT about "which" receiver..and if U remeber correctly, viewsat leaked the fix to pansat and others after the last ECM..BL did NOT figure it out..
Oh yeah, threads about ecm....U know there working on it and by the length of time thats going by I think its going too be a bad one ,so keep ur subs up and scan as many sats as u can and as always have more than one way of testing.Because theres always one comming just a matter of when there bag of tricks is full.
They do play nice...they did break the code...yes rumor has it that they paid for some help...big deal, why not, if thats true!...do U pay repairman to fix things around the house or your vehicle, sometimes when U can't?...I sure the hell do!...but Viewsat eventually made public their findings which enabled other FTA receivers to also break the ECM...VS could have "masked" their new realeased working bins back then in June/July with the long ECM, but didn't, allowing others to use their info..if it wasn't for Viewsat, NOBODY would be watching DN and Bev TV now on FTA..
The way I heard it was they were encrypting there bins ,not sharing , and by accident,one bin got hacked ,then the map57 was leaked /shared to other fta's camps. Not fact ,just the way I heard it happened.
Does anyone know the length of time FTA is down from ECM on an average?.....Also....Does DN have a technique to know how many people are utilizing the benefit of FTA? Thank You...Anybodys input is appreciated except for CWC's.
yes, Dave & Bev have always estimated the number of FTA illegal users by.........
a.- monitoring the number of FTAs being sold at e-bay b.- monitoring the number of members at Dss sites promoting illegal activities (NOT ecoustics, of course) c.- and taking aerial pictures to count number of (illegal ) FTA dishes
then they multiply it by 10 and divide it by 3.1416 .