I just thought i would let you all know that there is a new map entered in the stream Today.Dishnet is switching from Map 3B to 4A/4B.As of yet there is no positive idea on which of the 2 new maps they will be going to.Either 4A or 4B should be in affect by Friday so all FTA's solutions might be down by then.
I'm still a relative newbie in the world of FTA, but I think it might be prudent to name some sources when you say something like this. With so many people bsing on this site it would be nice to check another site and see if its true or not.
smells like "bull" the last ecm just hit us 3 days ago.. we dont have more then 1 ecm the same week. and Charlie will probly have to open up the legs all over again for at least 2 weeks to implement the new map.
lol charlie can do alot more than u think. he can do a diff map every day if he wants and switch back and forth tween them daily and make it a pain for u. he can and will also set different keys for certain blocks of channels. he can have a set of keys for the sports channels he can have a set of keys for the po rn channels he can have a set of keys for the hbos he can have a set of keys for shotime etc etc and he can rotate them around daily to If any of u have been in this hobby for decades as me and a couple others here uh mmmm then u will remeber that there use to be 1 set of keys that would work for all channels and would work for months if not a year at a time. But oh wait, what happened?, to many people watching pay channels so they started changing the keys every couple months then every month then every week then different keys for each channel then every day then,,, people subbed
the keys ur talkin about were for the cband sat jack... I remember that. But those werent the same as this. DN has been changing KEYS alot lately, but thats where AUTOROLL comes in I think.
yes dantetn but im using that as an example as charlie can do the same thing. as a matter of fact he has rotated the keys 3 times a day before and its easy for him to disable our autorolls if he feels
No one knows y but him. But u know its nothing for him to disable autoroll hell its nothing for him to do anything many say he is behind alot of well,, nevermind but consider it a sort of marketing scheme
Not saying it aint so.....but no word on hash or newbies on the new map.I went to dssguy and checked all his posts and then off to hash to check all posts by Veracity....No word on the original claim here just yet.
Im hoping the poster was mistaken...not calling him/her out.
I want this fix to last 2 weeks.Then perhaps only down 3 days and then back up for 2 weeks.Hey,would not that be great.
There are SEVERAL sites reporting this change in the stream now...its impact and how severe is still TBD..get use to it, DN is playing for keeps now...Peeps have cost them millions/billions of dollars already, nevermind the humiliation that goes with it, ever since N2 was hacked after their card swap last year..Again I will say, I suggest U all share a sub with family and friends, if U want continous uninterrupted TV...continue FTA testing, but don't be DEPENDENT on it as a sole source for family TV..the road ahead for FTA will be a BUMPY ride..
Bottom line is: subs have to get their revision so they don't go down. FTA bins must mimic the revision. There will be a time delay between the two events.
When autoroll sigantures get rewritten that will come down in a revision (whether they be major or minor). Same with maps for encryption. Etc... etc...
It's going to be a game of cat and mouse. Just more often than usual.
Then another card swap will come. And so the cycle begins again.
I would say that DN has probably lost the battle. The fact that Map 3B and Map 57 calls have been laid wide open, allows the myriad of other programmers to study the mind of the software writers who implemented the original security. Therefore the deciphering of Maps 4A 4B will not be as difficult or time consuming.
Marcus, it "appears" that ALL of the ROM102 technology has been decifered. It doesn't matter, now, whether you have cardless or a ROM102 card - although, it's cheaper to go cardless.
Long before, many people could spell the word "computer", I was programming them. I spent about 4 years in the hacking business, and 8 years in writing software using assembler. Because of my hacking expertise, I was project leader in two security related software pieces. That's how I can come with such statements. From EXPERIENCE, not from reading somebody else's opnion.
Nalin, I respect your experience in programming. But, I believe that VS has decoded ALL of the maproms. So, there's no need to have to guess/study the other map routines to get the complete map. I know where you're coming from, though. Before this last ECM, we weren't sure if VS has the entire map, but their quick turnaround may indicate that they have the entire rom102 routines.
Jason: I am not doing any "low level" programming any more. It is now a hobby. I am actually working on revising a 3000 page website written in pure html. In the "cat and mouse" game, once a part of another progammer's coding has been broken, the rest is easy as VS have proved it. I think, what has been laid bare open in the public domain, is only Map 3B and Map 57 code. So my understaing is that VS has it all, but that Map 4A and 4B are still not in the public domain. Correct me if I am wrong. It will save me going to other websites to find out.
This is funny, when we do not have TV, you guys keep predicting when will the new fix be out. When we have TV ( I for one, have a viewsat), you guys keep predicting when it will go down... which side are you guys on? (-:
Jason: My 10:31 Eastern time post was not meant to answer or criticise your post, but an attempt to explain to an earlier poster, why I made a statment about reading the minds of programmers.
Nalin, no worries - we're just discussing, not arguing. :-)
Your're correct about maps 4A and 4B not being in the public domain. I think what is happening is that coders are reverse-engineering VS bins (e.g. bins with 3B and 57 maproms). VS would be insane to (supposedly) spend $750,000 on get all of the maps and then just giving them away for other competitors to use.
Thoronto, I have a freaking huge crystal ball. It works well for me! lol
Thanks, Jason. Well I hope, in fact, I am sure the Map 4A and 4B will be out in the public domain very soon and we will have 6-8 months of TV on all receivers.
Jason, I don't have a Crystal Ball, but I have a vewsat extream wathing a few birds. It will do it for now (-: Crystal ball is only good when we are expecting a bin, otherwise, it is just bad news (((-:
Jason...I never told U , but thought U should know that U are one of the very few members here who I totally respect and am impressed with your knowledge, level head, and attitude...and I give credit to those that deserve it here.
Nalin... help me understand something. You said, "we will have 6-8 months of TV on all receivers..."
What makes you feel that it will be that short? I'm working off the assumption that they would have to do a card swap before everything is lost, and a swap would take a little longer than a few months.
I'm always open to learn something new, so if you have some extra info, I'd like to hear about it.
Thanks, LK! I'm just trying to help people like how you and others helped me when I first started out here. I may know a lot about computers, but I'm still light years away from fully understanding DSS hardware like how you know. I'm still learning.
But I do have a lot of respect for you as well. Not only are you knowlegable, but you also know a lot of DSS history, from personal experience. We can all learn a lot from history as it does tend to repeat itself. And you tell it like it is. You may have lost your temper every so often, but so what - we're all human, and you've NEVER steered anyone in the wrong direction. Hats off to you!