Has Pansat died?

 

Silver Member
Username: Etorres4u

Post Number: 137
Registered: Sep-05
Please this thread is not meant for Pansat bashers, just those of us that want some answers.

There were many rumors going around about Pansat giving up the fight. Most of us, including me, didnt believe this as Pansat is the biggest and best known FTA company. But its strange how BOTH their sites, future-fta and al7bar have both dissapeard without any explanations whatsoever. Its been more than a week since they went down and we have heard nothing from BL or their mods, not even in IRC. So what gives?

I doubt Blacklist will just cross his arms and let Pansat go down the drain without any explanations as his reputation will disappear along with Pansat. The mods at future, who are also very respected in the community are also strangely quiet as of late. Anyone heard or read any info?

Only serious answers please, so no flamers, idiots and Olegs allowed.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Bones714

Post Number: 22
Registered: Mar-05
Just give it some time and maybe we'll all get lucky w/out BL help again. Just like the last time, besides who heard last from him anyways. I think he's gone MIA. You were saying something about al7bar is down, Which site? Al7bardotcom or al7bardottk? I'm using al7bar.com and it sems fine to me, just not many responses. You could also use hashhudotcom, there some pretty good feedback there. I'm not to positive about Pansat anymore, I just picked up 3 Sonicview receivers about three weeks ago and I gotta say I'm very impress with this STB. The features are 100% much better than the Pansat and the EPG is like the real deal. I have a Pansat 2500 and a 2700 at work, there o.k. but ever since I got my Soniview I'm proud to say that I'm a happy Sonicview costumer.
 

New member
Username: Shenanigans

Post Number: 3
Registered: Sep-06
Al-tk has been back for a few days now. Go there via the main url and pitch any old bookmarks you have. They are no longer any good.

According to a post on the site, future is 'supposed' to be back up sometime today.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Zunna

Post Number: 98
Registered: Jun-06
is the fix for pansat here yet?
 

New member
Username: Shenanigans

Post Number: 4
Registered: Sep-06
I wouldn't expect one anytime in the near future, if it happens at all.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pjk

Post Number: 45
Registered: Aug-06
etorres: BL and crew were MIA since the last ECM. The only reason people were able to watch anything last week wasn't due to a fix. DN temporarily lifted the code, that's it. It was the same old bin from June. It was just a fluke.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Ouchi_collashi

Post Number: 50
Registered: Aug-06
With mr. viewsat having the entire maprom area it does look like pansat will go out of business.
 

New member
Username: Neelloc

MI United States

Post Number: 7
Registered: Jul-06
I hate to admit this, cause I'm a big PS fan, but it is starting to look like the end of the road. BL has been MIA for a while, there never was a PS fix for the last ECM, and there's still no reliable word from or about him. And then there is the disappearance of Future and the daily promises that they'll be back online "soon", "within 24 hours" etc....
 

Bronze Member
Username: Tonymack

Post Number: 25
Registered: Sep-05
You guys are all been taken for a ride.
Can't you see what's happening?
You don't even Know why we were getting signal the other day?
Well, let me clue you in:
NASA launch a space shuttle about 2 weeks ago. About the same time it reach space and all the astraunauts settle down and began work we got signal back.
Well, guess what? Not all the members were astranauts. Some were hired engineer contractors by dishnet work and other satelite providers. there mision was to go up their and reprogram the satelites in order to fully defeat stealers of their signals.
You don't beleive me? Then check out my reasonning. approximately 3 to 5 days after the shuttle has landed in space we got signal back. Why because while the engineers are up their, they had to reset the signal back to the N2 in order to see if their new program works, while they do their thing. they test it for approx. a week and their results seems fine. Mission in space has complete. Their final work would then be done when they return to earth, So slowly they start to disable channels prior to their return to earth as part of their test.
As you might notice, 5 days before returning we start loosing signal on our PPV and XXX. After landing yesterday morning it took them approx. 3 to 4 hours to get adjusted to the earth atmosphere. They landed approx. 6:21am.
What happen at approx. 9:30 am? We totally lost all channels. Good job guys. You have done it again. now it is up to us hackers on earth or traitors to figure out what they have done and find a way to crack it.

Want more proof?
we were lucky to have signal on and off for the past 3 years. Fellows my regret go out for all the astranauts who lost their lives in the 2003 Columbia space craft disinsinegration, but wasn't for that we would be in the dark a long time ago. The Isreali that was on board was an engineer specialist from the midle east whose mision was to go go up their and cripple the midlle east channels such ATN, Aljezera, Hindu, and all the rest. His mission was successfull, but like this mision, his final work would be done when he return to earth. Unfortunately, it did not happen. This cause a set back for the satelite provider as you can remember how much it cost them during that same time to convert from N1 to N2 as a part of the transformation process. That was the only reason why we were able to get signal back on a on and off basis for the past 3 years as the providers was strapped for cash, as well as they were also trying to see if they could have fix the problen from here on earth as NASA could not give them a specific time as to when they would be returing to space, and also they thought that with data sent back from the crew while in space, they might be able to cripple the illegal signal theft and stay within budget.
They tried, but it was impossible as hackers and traitors have cepher their system, so they had no choice but put up the money and restart all over again.

My fellows friends and pirates, I am sad to say but this could be it. Anyway, it was good while it last. I have fun and get to see a lot of things on television that I could not see if I was only using cable.
In closer, to the FTA I would like to ask all of you to bow your head and join me in a short Prayer thanking FTA and all The PIRATES that help make it happen. It was good while it last and from the bottom of my my heart I hope it comes back, although that seems to be a long shot now.
PS: don't shoot the informationists, Just read and think about it for yourself.
Did what I said make sense or seems logical to You?
Love Ya all!!
 

Silver Member
Username: Uncle_charlie

Post Number: 103
Registered: Jul-06
There are people swearing to the fact that future is NOW OPEN.I cant get in,they say at al7bar that BL has made a statement at future.

Just reporting what I read at al7bar
If anyone can get in please post message from BL if there really is one.
 

New member
Username: Iamdrumming

Post Number: 3
Registered: Aug-06
Future-Fta is indeed open. I was just there.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Dimwitt

Post Number: 22
Registered: Aug-06
Pansat Status

First im sorry for wait. We are work hard day and nights to get all pansat receivers working.

We found the Information we are missin but way better Information once we finished next hit will take us 2 hours after we updated automaticly will get PIC.

Please have patience. I will post here next update soonest I have better information for users.
We will have TV again Soon Very Soon

BL
c/p fut fta
 

New member
Username: Forums_administrat0r

Ecoustics, Super Mod

Post Number: 3
Registered: Sep-06
Tony Mack ,

Nice story! I would buy all of that if we were still in 1960's.....It was a fun story I don't buy it at all nice of you to share your thoughts....dont forget your meds
 

Silver Member
Username: Etorres4u

Post Number: 138
Registered: Sep-05
The story of the dish astronauts was hilarious. I do hope that guy doesnt really believe any of it.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Sparky41701

Chavies, Ky Usa

Post Number: 18
Registered: Jun-06
tony mack is that why the nasa channel is still working lmao
 

Bronze Member
Username: Drphil

Post Number: 41
Registered: Jul-06
Tony Mack ,
That is even a bad theme for hollywood. Only you believe that bs.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Bhund

Post Number: 87
Registered: Mar-06
Here Is The Latest
[02:46] <blacklist57> Guys
[02:46] <blacklist57> we are missin just one step
[02:46] <blacklist57> to come out
[02:46] <blacklist57> so stay tunned
[02:46] <blacklist57> we will get that s_it with in a day or so
[02:46] <blacklist57> but
[02:46] <blacklist57> As I promiseed
[02:46] * cosmo has joined #future-fta-info
[02:46] <blacklist57> We never had
[02:46] <blacklist57> chance
[02:46] <blacklist57> to work on permenent
[02:46] <blacklist57> but
[02:47] <blacklist57> once we finished
[02:47] <blacklist57> with this one
[02:47] <blacklist57> I Guarranty
[02:47] <blacklist57> if we have
[02:47] <blacklist57> 1 month time of goin after without gettin any ecm problems from dicknet
[02:47] <blacklist57> then
[02:47] <blacklist57> I guaranty!
[02:48] <blacklist57> it will be done deal
[02:48] <blacklist57> to have permenent
[02:48] <blacklist57> sollution
[02:48] <kkl0wn> Sounds good...
[02:48] <blacklist57> we are just tryin to do
[02:48] <blacklist57> shortcut
[02:48] <blacklist57> as Viewsat does
[02:48] <blacklist57> but
[02:48] <blacklist57> he thinks
[02:48] <blacklist57> he will be leader or somethin like that
[02:48] <blacklist57> everytime
[02:49] <blacklist57> blames on his manufactor
[02:49] <fta_fortress> by permanent do you mean a new ecm fix can be done in a few hours?
[02:49] <blacklist57> but I know
[02:49] <blacklist57> he can
[02:49] <blacklist57> give out the information
[02:49] * topdawg_afk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 180 seconds )
[02:49] <blacklist57> but one think
[02:49] <blacklist57> I am happy
[02:49] <blacklist57> I never got any information from him
[02:49] <blacklist57> because
[02:49] <blacklist57> he will start tallkin allover
[02:49] <blacklist57> I helped Pansat
[02:49] <blacklist57> So
[02:49] <kkl0wn> Yes so very true
[02:49] <blacklist57> This time
[02:49] * RSC has joined #future-fta-info
[02:50] <blacklist57> I will be happy more then before
[02:50] <blacklist57> once
[02:50] <blacklist57> I am done
[02:50] <blacklist57> so
[02:50] <blacklist57> Please stay tunned
[02:50] <cosmo> why don't you guys work together
[02:50] <blacklist57> well
[02:50] <blacklist57> we start
[02:50] <blacklist57> like that
[02:50] <blacklist57> on the way
[02:50] * Shadow2512 has joined #future-fta-info
[02:50] <blacklist57> he left his turn
[02:50] <blacklist57> because
[02:50] <blacklist57> he was plannin
[02:50] <blacklist57> to play monapoly
[02:51] <blacklist57> and think
[02:51] <blacklist57> he succsid
[02:51] <blacklist57> but na
[02:51] * s00pie has joined #future-fta-info
[02:51] <blacklist57> no way
[02:52] <onerazz> So are we looking to get a temp fix with in like a week?
[02:52] <onerazz> i guess he's taking questions now.
[02:52] <blacklist57> earlier then that
[02:52] <kkl0wn> Sounds like he's trying to get a perm fix
[02:52] <blacklist57> possible to be earlier then a week
[02:52] <blacklist57> oh
[02:52] <blacklist57> WE HAVE MAP57 DONE!!!
[02:52] <onerazz> cool .
[02:52] <ftaspanky> 7 : 3 )
[02:52] * Zaff has left #future-fta-info
[02:52] * Zaff has joined #future-fta-info
[02:52] <kkl0wn> Great news
[02:52] <blacklist57> if we have any map57 back to strean
[02:52] <fta_fortress> gr8 news
[02:52] <blacklist57> stream
[02:53] <blacklist57> we will be up and runnin
[02:53] <blacklist57> with 10 minutes
[02:53] <yukon> <blacklist57> good job....how many bits of encryption are you up against?
[02:53] <kingkong> lol
[02:53] <kingkong> 10min
[02:53] <kingkong> that would be a site to see.....
[02:53] <blacklist57> because we have picture
[02:53] <blacklist57> 100%
[02:53] <blacklist57> onb map57
[02:53] <kingkong> congrats ma man
[02:53] <kkl0wn> So whats the hold-up now?
[02:53] <s00pie> why wasnt fix released for map57?
[02:53] <blacklist57> we done it
[02:53] <s00pie> cant test map57 now since it no longer in stream
[02:54] <blacklist57> well my luck is different on this
[02:54] <blacklist57> same day
[02:54] <blacklist57> we had it
[02:54] <blacklist57> they turned on
[02:54] <blacklist57> turned down
[02:54] <blacklist57> 57
[02:54] <blacklist57> so I shouldnt talk to much he h e
[02:54] <kkl0wn> b__tards ... lol
[02:54] <blacklist57> but anyway
[02:54] <fta_fortress> what is in stream bow, rev10a?
[02:55] <blacklist57> Yes
[02:55] <blacklist57> runnin
[02:55] <kingkong> will hit dicknet in the dickhead...soon
[02:55] <blacklist57> 10B
[02:55] <blacklist57> well
[02:55] <blacklist57> not soon
[02:55] <onerazz> Hey BlackList are you going to put in the clone kill in the temp bin?
[02:55] <blacklist57> but
[02:55] <blacklist57> possible to change it again
[02:55] <kingkong> i see
[02:55] <blacklist57> in a month
[02:55] <blacklist57> but
[02:55] <blacklist57> we dont care
[02:55] <blacklist57> we will finish
[02:55] <blacklist57> by the time
[02:55] <blacklist57> he gets his h_it done
[02:55] <blacklist57> in a month
[02:55] <blacklist57> so
[02:56] * qmailer has joined #future-fta-info
[02:56] <blacklist57> we will have perm sollution mean time IF EVERYTHIN GOES THE WAY WE PLANNED
[02:56] <blacklist57> :_)
[02:56] <blacklist57> everyone feels
[02:56] <qmailer> yello
[02:56] <blacklist57> maybe
[02:56] <blacklist57> I am keep sayin good stuff but dont have s_it
[02:56] <blacklist57> but
[02:56] <blacklist57> SOON!
[02:56] <blacklist57> will prove
[02:56] <blacklist57> what I have
[02:56] <blacklist57> and what Viewsat
[02:56] <blacklist57> but
[02:56] <blacklist57> got in a wrong timin spot
[02:56] <kingkong> can u define Perm* fix, in ur deffintion
[02:57] <blacklist57> so once my timin I correct
[02:57] <blacklist57> Viewsat will be in trouble for sure
 

New member
Username: Shenanigans

Post Number: 8
Registered: Sep-06
Tony Mack! Wow! Dude, I mean, WOW!

It's just... I mean.... I'm at a loss for words....

Just WOW, man. WOW!

You most definitely are Da Man!

Thank you so much for the enlightenment. :-)
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pjk

Post Number: 50
Registered: Aug-06
Tony Mack: Dude, that's the stupidest shiznit that I have ever heard.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pjk

Post Number: 51
Registered: Aug-06
Blacklist said the same shiznit before and wasn't capable of pulling through. He's still bullshitting people with his broken English. Bottom line, VS has it, Pansat doesn't.
 

New member
Username: Db_signal

Post Number: 1
Registered: Sep-06
Pansat does not have the right hardware to deal with the mapping or the future addition of more mapping procedures.its down to clocking for them.not because their slow...because of how they designed data flow.. If they build a system able to handle data differently...then yes they would have a fix..But who's gonna buy one ??
 

Bronze Member
Username: Tonymack

Post Number: 26
Registered: Sep-05
Alright alll you non-beleivers, time will tell prove me wrong and I will take back everything I said. Infact, if I am wrong I will destroy both my computer and FTA boxes.
Everything I said is coming from credible source.
My uncle name is Steve Maclean.
Does that mean anything to all you non-beleivers.
Do your research.
You think what I said is coincidental,
Why did we get signal back jsut days after the shuttle Atlantis left earth?
Why did we lost signal just hours after the shuttle land back on earth?
we lost signal just about the time after which all on borad the shuttle was able to adjust back to earth gravity and they were able to get off.
Like I said before and I am saying it again, time will tell, and we will soon know who is speaking the truth and who is not.
 

New member
Username: Shenanigans

Post Number: 9
Registered: Sep-06
Tony Mack, do I detect hostility in your post?

Relax man. We believe you. The other posters were just kidding around with you. And for heaven's sake, don't trash your equipment. That wouldn't be logical and would probably be somewhat depressing after you realized what you had done.

The next time you talk to your uncle, thank him for the information you were gracious enough to share with all the good people on this board. It's appreciated!
 

Bronze Member
Username: Neurosis

Post Number: 55
Registered: May-06
I really wish it wasn't true but Pansat is dead.
 

New member
Username: Vyizder_zomenimor

Post Number: 10
Registered: Aug-06
They would have had to reprogram not just 1 but 4 sats to make your theory fly Tony. Not very likely in 1 STS mission.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Jbird

Post Number: 20
Registered: May-06
tony mack, you want to hear what i think, i think the visitors gave you a butt-probe. last nite i caught 3 little green men messing around with my dishes.live long and prosper.
 

New member
Username: Gedunk

Post Number: 1
Registered: Sep-06
Tony Mack,

Do you know the difference between geo-sync orbit and low earth orbit? Hint its about 22000 miles. Thats about how close your theory is from possible. Besides the birds are worked via uplink and no servicable parts are inside. Not to mention that touching it would knock it the hell out of track and aim. Go back to my space. You seem better suited to that kind of technology.
 

Silver Member
Username: Etorres4u

Post Number: 139
Registered: Sep-05
Tony Mack, not to burst your bubble, but Dish sats are in geosynchronuos orbit, which means they are located 22,000 miles up. The highest a shuttle can orbit is a little more than 300 miles, see where I'm getting?
 

New member
Username: Shenanigans

Post Number: 10
Registered: Sep-06
Why are you guys picking on Tony Mack?

:-)
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 4438
Registered: Jan-06
Pansat was never a QUALITY receiver but had CONSTANT available support (not quality bins or featutes though) and simple to use...but now, Pansat has had NO support for past 4 months, so its IN THE TOILET!....it never impressed me,nor did Blacklist and his weekly redundant same old bins with no improvements...to me Pansat died months ago!...it just took 4 months for the medical examiner to make it official!
 

Bronze Member
Username: Tonymack

Post Number: 27
Registered: Sep-05
Hey buddys don't worry Life is all about fun I'm never hostile. I am just giving something to talk and laugh about. Food for thought guys, I'm cool I justb hope that signal come back soon I mis all the freeness.
Love ya all.
Its all about fun talk
 

Bronze Member
Username: Tonymack

Post Number: 28
Registered: Sep-05
Guys Guys!! Its human that put them up there, so why do you think they cannot access them again. Beside, signals are been transmit via frequency which can be calculated base on the code you put in for example: do you know how telephone works and why that when you dial a number you always get the person woh is assign that number. Well this how it works. all ten digit is assigned a specific freqeuncy Ex #1 = 22Hz, #2 =25Hz and so on. These frequencies are calculated horizantally and vertically. every ten digit when dialed adds up to total frequency which never mathces another ten digit which that phone# unique and never equvalent to another. a little hint mor to come later
 

Bronze Member
Username: Dish

Post Number: 82
Registered: Jun-06
If BL really has what he says he has he would have put out the F.ucking bin out already,

What a bunch of losers if you guys believe this s.hiot
 

Bronze Member
Username: Bhund

Post Number: 100
Registered: Mar-06
it sounds logical but no not believable and you actually took your time out to type that
 

Bronze Member
Username: Shenanigans

Post Number: 11
Registered: Sep-06
I wonder if he was serious about destroying his computer and FTA boxes?
 

Bronze Member
Username: Traxx

Swiftcurrent, Sask Canada

Post Number: 51
Registered: Jul-06
satalites are programed from the ground not from the shuttle i bet tony mack thinks star trek was based on a true story.
 

Silver Member
Username: Birdwatcher

Post Number: 459
Registered: Jul-06
if you guys are believing that blacklist is still working on a file your dreaming. Hes full of shiot.Hes full of shiot.Hes full of shioHes full of shiot.t.Hes full of shiot.Hes full oHes full of shiot.f shiot.Hes full of shiot.Hes full of shiot.Hes full of shiot.Hes full of shHes full of shiot.iot.
 

Silver Member
Username: Birdwatcher

Post Number: 460
Registered: Jul-06
did you guys see the newest ppv movie. the inside man. its pretty good. OH i forgot, this is a pansuck site.......lol
 

Silver Member
Username: Donnie1973

Tennessee

Post Number: 404
Registered: May-06
LOL! U thought the movie was "Inside a Man" didnt u davidvanwantstobeinsideaman! LMFAO!!!!
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 4483
Registered: Jan-06
Pansats credibility died a LONG time ago!...even before the ECMs in June..slow, terrible EPG, lousy bins, no support, lying PR men, terrible coders...what more could somebody NOT want!
 

Silver Member
Username: Donnie1973

Tennessee

Post Number: 406
Registered: May-06
I dont see how they could EVER sell another box. But there will always be an idiot out there who dont read up on it first! (davidvan12yearoldgirl)
For the same money, 140.00, u can get a VS! Faster processor, nice EPG, lying PR man...lol.
I do think BL is a good coder though. Not saying I like him or his crappy support, but in the past years seems like he's always there. I believe he woulda come up with a fix on his own... may have taken a while, but woulda got it.
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 4485
Registered: Jan-06
But all his (BL) bins sucked...never improvements!...new weekly releases before, but just same old bins with a new date!
 

Silver Member
Username: Donnie1973

Tennessee

Post Number: 407
Registered: May-06
True... crappy boxes all in all i guess.
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 4487
Registered: Jan-06
Originally they were great...cheap, simple,easy to use, one of the first FTA's, and had software for those converting from the old DTV and HU card days of watching hacked satellite TV...but Pansat ownership of the FTA market quickly faded as new competitors such as Coo*lsat and Viewsat entered the picture..now Pansat is like an old rusted, tires flattened, beaten DEAD motor, 1991 Ford escort sitting in the garage wasting space,while U got your new decent, but not extravagant, 2007 Ford Explorer (Viewsat) sitting in the driveway with new stereo and AC/heat comfortably bringing U anywhere U want to go..
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pellock

Post Number: 24
Registered: Aug-06
nice put, LK
 

New member
Username: Cockey

Post Number: 8
Registered: Sep-06
isnt that nice everyone else has a fix but pansat and once again the sites r down again this is crap. wait for what nothing still same crap but no fix
 

New member
Username: Lynchmob450

Post Number: 4
Registered: Sep-06
Yo...Toneee....yer uncl naam is Steve Austin!
 

Silver Member
Username: Donnie1973

Tennessee

Post Number: 410
Registered: May-06
lol
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