POLL: VS FIX or NO FIX
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Bronze Member Username: Jurj1Post Number: 39 Registered: Jul-06 | I'll even give them until Friday, after all they probably will need 1 or 2 days to test. I say BS |
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Bronze Member Username: Mybig_williePost Number: 12 Registered: Jul-06 | You can give them till the next blue moon.Going,going gone. |
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Bronze Member Username: MidsyPost Number: 52 Registered: Jun-06 | FIX FOR TWO MORE DAYS |
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Silver Member Username: Reggie_millerPost Number: 111 Registered: May-06 | I say no fix this week |
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Bronze Member Username: BruceleeBeverly Hills, California United States Post Number: 62 Registered: Mar-06 | I say no fix this millenium(sp)!!! |
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Bronze Member Username: AjdarwinPost Number: 98 Registered: May-06 | I am beginning to beleive that no new bin will arrive. I think many have reached the same conclusion, as traffic here has gone down, maybe not in posts, but certainly in posters. I can't say I am heart broken, although I wish no one ill luck, Pirate TV is illegal regardless of how you justify it. With the turning off of free premium channels perhaps the legal alternatives will be more attractive. I don't see the attraction of saving 2.00 watching a PPV you could rent, and risking huge fines and possible jailtime. I don't know if they would ever pursue that, but they could. I would not wish that on anyone. If the general public were better educated perhaps we could force DTV and DN to charge only for programming not supported by commercials. By that I mean remove the commercials from the programming for which the public already pays. Probably not. But if enough people began to really use the FTA as it is meant to be used, it might bring down prices, especially if marketed correctly. If I were a FTA dealer I would at least give it a shot. |
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Bronze Member Username: Etorres4uPost Number: 89 Registered: Sep-05 | I feel sorry for viewsat, almost. This is a disaster of their own making. Even if their fix comes out wednesday as advertized, their credibility is shot to hell. Ever since the last ECM fix viewsat has made enemies out of just about every other FTA maker and coder out there. Why? I have no idea. I just dont see any way that viewsat can come out of this without loosing any more credibility. My guess is that they got within striking distance of replacing Pansat as the number 1 FTA maker and greed just got in the way. If Pansat co*lsat and other FTA makers get a bin out before viewsat, as certain rumors claim, then viewsat might be finished as a major player in the FTA market. |
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Silver Member Username: The_real_kneegrowPost Number: 142 Registered: Jul-06 | think what you want azzholes...now's a good time to go eat your cousins poutang you fcuking inbreed rednecks...it always taste better in the family...ROTF |
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Bronze Member Username: FruitcakesucksdickPost Number: 27 Registered: Jul-06 | knegro,don't u have some watermelon,black eye peas,macoroni and chesse and kool aide waiting for u in the projects...just your shut black a@s and keep your rude comments to yourself........... |
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Bronze Member Username: YannissPost Number: 42 Registered: Feb-06 | guys im like you eager to hav e back my tv im addicted this is the reality but you have to understand no matter what some facts. i just spoke to genius guy friend of m ine in europ . he advise me not to buy any fta . all of them are in trouble. he said about the bin that you are looking for need money and may take up to 6 mounths . so long honey bunny bye bye . we got to buy something eles |
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Silver Member Username: HardrockstrikerPost Number: 280 Registered: Apr-06 | There will be a bin, sooner or later. But don't think that plastic is safe. In the latest revision, there is code in place to lock the card (by disabling the MAP section) if tampering is detected. It's not being used yet, but it is in place. The future is card sharing, or auxed cards with emulation. FTA will probably be around for a while longer, but it will be a battle of FTA hardware maker $$$ vs DN antipiracy initiative $$$. |
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Bronze Member Username: Etorres4uPost Number: 90 Registered: Sep-05 | I believe if a fix does come out we may have a year more, maybe. DN is no doubt thinking about a serious card swap, and this time all holes will be plugged. Just a guess |
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Bronze Member Username: Sdgodfrey8Post Number: 39 Registered: Jul-05 | C/P For those in denial, the code below does one simple thing: it writes 94h to location $8B7E. This causes the stack return to point to $94xx instead of $8Bxx when the function returns. They have sent this code via the latest revision and are sending it down in EMM packets too! They want to be sure every card gets the update. Now, when the stack returns to $94xx, glitching is not possible for a variety of technical reasons that only a coder understands. The cam is shut tight. End of story. So all subbed cards now have the new routine and can't be glitched - at least not with the old methods. Those using the latest blocker code can glitch in because you e3m just ignores the stack point stuff. However, once all the subbed cards are updated, all they have to do is check if the card is locked or unlocked. Unlocked cards will call a MAP function that disables part of the MAPRom. Locked cards will function normally. That doesn't leave us much choice, does it? Either we let them lock our cards OR we risk losing the MAPRom functionality. If you let them lock your card, then you will eventually lose your tiers and will be watching a black screen. Since you can't glitch back in, that black screen will be around for a while. If they kill your MAPRom, well, black screen once again. In layman's terms, the code update means this: Charlie is saying: "sheep, sheep, where are you going?" Testers say: "to the slaughterhouse, bah, bah." Guys, you are all being set up by Charlie and unknowingly being led to the slaughterhouse. When having a real update on your card is enforced pull your ROM102 cards while you have a chance. An "Aux" type solution will probably surface once the big kill comes down. At that time, there will be a severe SHORTAGE of ROM102 cards. ---------------------------------------------- Rev 109 code ---------------------------------------------- 93E3: A694 lda #94 ; Load in A 93E5: AC push dsr ; push dsr on stack 93E6: 7180 ldp #80 ; Load into paging register 93E8: C18B7E cmpa 8B7E ; cmp ram with a 93EB: 2712 jreq $93FF ; Jump if Z = 1 (equal) 93ED: CD5700 call 5700 93F0: 8B lda dsr ; Load dsr in a 93F1: 7E swap(x) ; Swap nibbles 93F2: BE6B ldx 006B 93F4: 89 pushx ; Push x onto the Stack 93F5: AE96 ldx #96 ; Load in X 93F7: BF6B stx 006B ; ***** x in... 93F9: CD6DC9 call 6DC9 93FC: 85 popx ; Pop x from the Stack 93FD: BF6B stx 006B ; ***** x in... 93FF: AF pop dsr ; pop dsr from stack 9400: 81 rts ; Return from subroutine -------------------------------------------- Don't let the FTA makers pull the wool over your eyes. Don't believe them when they say the fix is taking so long because "we have to read through 155 pages of prime number theory, AES ciphering" or "the new bin required is so massive the coder is exhausted" or my personal favourite "Mr. Viewsat will be putting 1 Canadian and 1 Korean in the same room with a electron laserscope". Complete and utter kaka. The reason FTA, At****, Armulator, ROM101, ROM10/11 and everything else (except ROM102) is down is because of these two lines of code: 936E: lda #$57 9370: jsrp #$00, $A822 Thats it! Those buggers are causing all this chaos. That code is assembly. Assembly works by calling and executing various instructions. The instruction at line 936E: lda #$57 means "load register a with the value 57". The instruction at 9370: jsrp #$00, $A822 means "okay, jump-to-routine MAP function that was loaded in register a, namely 57". So basically, those two lines of code execute something called MAP 57. The problem is, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MAP 57 is. That is why Mr. Viewsat and the other FTA makers are sweating right about now. You see, without knowledge of MAP 57 their gravy train will run away soon. For those that say "well, the FTA people will figure it out, don't worry". Start worrying. Think of MAP 57 as a kind of black box. There is an input to the black box and an output. The idea is to try and figure out what this black box does. For example, if we input 2 and the output is 4, if when we input 3 the ouput is 6, if when we input 4 the output is 8, then we may reasonably deduce that this black box just multiplies the input by 2. That was easy. The real MAP 57 takes 128 bytes of input, another 16 bytes of input and magically produces a 128 byte output. Here is an example: INPUT 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 SECONDARY INPUT AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA OUTPUT 34 FD 23 BD 67 55 32 DD 12 11 AE A1 43 78 E1 F0 21 56 78 32 A2 B4 67 88 99 DE 11 12 57 89 FA AE 56 23 BB C1 23 BA F2 E5 E5 A1 90 29 07 5A 9B 2C 88 45 33 D1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 9E 21 8A B1 4C 31 28 98 5A B2 C1 1D 28 56 23 F3 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 15 C1 22 8D F4 4A 87 59 00 AA D2 C1 04 31 21 07 67 21 BA A8 93 24 B1 FF D2 31 20 02 9D 3F 0D 4A Does anyone see the pattern? How did we go from the input to the output? If you input different numbers you will get a different output. So how does this MAP 57 black box work? Anyone? Not as easy as multiplication by two. Not so easy to figure out, eh? I assure you, Mr. Viewsat can put 1 Canadian and 1 Korean in a room together with a laserscope and the problem doesn't change one bit. That folks is the story behind MAP call 57 and why FTA no longer works. Now you have the facts and you will know when the FTA makers are bluffing you with delayed bin excuses, emu re-write excuses, and the big prime number won't come out of my#####excuse. Well, there you have it. Just the facts. Plain and simple. |
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Silver Member Username: Rufa33Post Number: 130 Registered: Jun-06 | We know those facts over last two weeks. But no update yet! seems as others said. Even if the fix is out it will be the final breath taking before the new encryption will be out. Hope it will be fixed soon .... |
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Bronze Member Username: Alienloco666Sunrise, Florida USA Post Number: 37 Registered: Jun-06 | We have a better chance to get this BIN  |
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Bronze Member Username: Good_old_boyPost Number: 21 Registered: Jul-06 | No fix... |
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Bronze Member Username: MidsyPost Number: 63 Registered: Jun-06 | copy and paste from Mr V 7/18/06 We are almost done, but it is taker longer then we thought, just be patient.. It is alot harder then you think, we do have a solution... rewriting it tricky. we understand what they have done. so we are almost there, it maybe wendesday but I don't like to give dates, pushes to hurry, so be patient we are doing our best to get file out.. we want to finish as soon as possible. Thank you please back off TDG he is just a messager.. I do asure you there will be a fix soon ,,, quickest will be wendesday, longest will be 1 week. but please be patient, but don't like giving dates... Sorry but it coding, coding can take sometime. Ask any coder.. Thanks to all the mods and supporters Reply With Quote |
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Bronze Member Username: Jeff2173Post Number: 42 Registered: Jun-06 | This is the way it is VS is trying to force eather C@@lsat or Pansat to go ahead with posting there bin (so not to come 2nd again) then they will take c@@lsat or pansat bin and fix there own. OR NOT JUST ME BEING FULL OF SH@T |
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