6/29 9PM UPDATE COOL*SAT CAMP: Coders At Cool*Sat Project 8-10Weeke before releasing a bin, DN Has Changed the Network Map as of 7PM, and Changed the Firewall settings, The New Firewall Nagra has implemented is one Coders Can't Get In It.
VIEWSAT CAMP & PANSAT CAMP: BL & MR.V have just (6:30PM) gotten off the phone, they are seeing a change under DN, The Bin They had written a few hours ago, Has Just Shown to return 95% Of All Channels Including PPV /XXX and Premium athough, 15minutes later they began losing channels. It is believed DN has just put in an Authentication System, which checks the Account ID - Something Our FTA Devices dont show, when the Account comes negative DN immediatly and instantly changes it's ECM through Minor TP Updates. BL is currently headed to germany where they have just written up a code where it masks this Account ID, and Emulates a ROM102 / 106 through BIN! Although BL Has to go and Test. Pansat 2500/2700 Will become Discountinued After this, They Need the new Memory Dump, Luckily the 3500 has the SD Card and it can dump there and Act as a Card, it's a new hack process.. BL **LEFT** at 9PM with his check book, he arrives in germany tommorow, He said He will split the cost with MR.V something MR.V has agreed to as he cares about his customers. AN UPDATE WILL BE RELEASED BY 3PM EST TOMMOROW!!
Does this even make sense? Network map *sigh* There is only map and what is more unbelieveble is that the emms sent to update map and firewall were not somehow visible or logged BS!!.If the previous map was known the fix would have been out in a day as it is merely an addition of the alogarithm in the fta code. Even more outrageous is BL's claim of authenitcation system using "Minor TP update". It is obvious some new map calls called in rev109 namely the 57 which is an unknown alogarithm, maybe AES, maybe not. It is also obvious that pansat 2700 doesnot have enough processing power to emulate map funtions in time for the next CW; So they are out.. Sigh wish the CC was around and the logs were usaully available. But oh well... Why don't BL and Mr V just ask their coders as to which alogarithm is call 57 and just post the name of alogarithm, that will definately prove that indeed they are aware of the map not to mention it will get the DB and dvb cards up and running !!!! No doubt they need some one's help to get the map details and its someone from the CC who will get them out just like the person did last time.
Depends on the number of map calls... I don't have the log for the new ecm.. so only highly efficient code for 2700 might be able to do maybe 2 or 3 calls. So far we at 3 (guessing from the posts) and coders know that anymore calls, the panst 2700 is out of air thus no future support. I personally think people underestimate the power of MAP and how fast it can run these calculation
Why are you all spectulating? We'll know when release is availible. Until then use some rabbit ears or read a book! Half these people work for dish or are pulling your chain. -H
R. Mongra, This is not the time to suggest which receiver to buy. Better to wait, find out the new work around and the types of receivers that can handle it (if any) and then buy.
You have reason Tyler, I Apologize, I am a little bit desperate to watch soccer, that is why I've asked, but like you said, better to wait, I hope BL will provide us something good to keep our 2700A up and running.
What.....Intresting post,Thanks for your input. makes sense to me if it was as minor as map it would be a done deal.And yes some have mentioned dvb card as an option,even if temp?
The original post above is self explanatory regarding receivers....no 2500/2700 and clones..and previous posts last ECM stated speed of processor was going to be a BIG factor in the next (present now) ECM..I know the Viewsats will work fine..
Dvb cards are not going to be up and running until some one tells the authors what alogarithm is called by 57. During last ECM the SSH alogarithm was added as post process, now this one adds one more in addition to SSH. I doubt Vahid or Semu author will acutally put that much time into the fix for NA. It was giver who helped get the semu up and running last time and this time he seems reluctant to help. I have a hunch after reading his posts, that he might infact know the calls but then again that is my opinion
This post is total BS..Future-fta does not have a private forum..I am a member of Future-fta and this post is not on that site..Bl is not going to Germany either..
Danny give me the name of the person who posted that thread and I will verify for you guys..
Usama..what a mouth you have..lol..as soon as he gives me the name of the person who posted that thread it's all bs..I just got another E-mail from a super mod at Future and he also says it's BS
pj..yes the 2500 and 2700 are going to be fine..i will try to get on to Future-fta but it's jammed right now..I have been communicating thru E-mail all day..
"Quote" 6/29 9PM UPDATE COOL*SAT CAMP: Coders At Cool*Sat Project 8-10Weeke before releasing a bin, DN Has Changed the Network Map as of 7PM, and Changed the Firewall settings, The New Firewall Nagra has implemented is one Coders Can't Get In It.
VIEWSAT CAMP & PANSAT CAMP: BL & MR.V have just (6:30PM) gotten off the phone, they are seeing a change under DN, The Bin They had written a few hours ago, Has Just Shown to return 95% Of All Channels Including PPV /XXX and Premium athough, 15minutes later they began losing channels. It is believed DN has just put in an Authentication System, which checks the Account ID - Something Our FTA Devices dont show, when the Account comes negative DN immediatly and instantly changes it's ECM through Minor TP Updates. BL is currently headed to germany where they have just written up a code where it masks this Account ID, and Emulates a ROM102 / 106 through BIN! Although BL Has to go and Test. Pansat 2500/2700 Will become Discountinued After this, They Need the new Memory Dump, Luckily the 3500 has the SD Card and it can dump there and Act as a Card, it's a new hack process.. BL **LEFT** at 9PM with his check book, he arrives in germany tommorow, He said He will split the cost with MR.V something MR.V has agreed to as he cares about his customers. AN UPDATE WILL BE RELEASED BY 3PM EST TOMMOROW!
I hope BL has enough funds in the account. Remember the banks will be closed too LOL
DANNY , GOD DAMMIT ,I don't want to hear anymore about pansat 2500 and 2700 going down ,because i just brough both of them for my cousin 2 month ago , if it the true so be it , if u playing around so get the hell out of here ...
im using a bin that begins with x-87bl and a pan 2700A and im still getting some channels al be it that i am very new to this i think that this is not the end!
OLDER FTA MODELS CAN NOT STAND THIS ECM... THEY REQUIRE A BIGGER DUMP, OLDER RECIEVERS, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT. 2500-2700-3000(CLONE) ARE BYE BYE
a friend told me when i got into this free to air stuff that he heard it would go down soon he used to pirate the direct cards and that went under at least i didnt pay for this thing though hey anyone got a hack for those crappy things??
Guys, the report that the earlier pansats will be discontinued are pure BS. We had similar reports that these recievers will not be able to handle the new encryption about a month ago when we had a similar outtage. Remember, the recievers that charlie provides are also limited on what they can do. If DN is to replace all the reciever, it will cost them hundreds of millions, which, frankly, I don't see happening.
And to add to my post above, I don't see any post on Future-FTA's forum from one of the coders there about this.
All this crap is brought up by TDG who just wants to sell more viewsats. It was infact him and Mr. V who started this shi*t last time we had the outtage.
from D$$COMMUNITY.c*m in the ECM section. Posted by a super moderator named "zsot"
Hope it's all true...
6/29 9PM UPDATE C@@LSAT CAMP: Coders At C@@lSat Project 8-10 Weeks before releasing a bin, DN Has Changed the Network Map as of 7PM, and Changed the Firewall settings, The New Firewall Nagra has implemented is one Coders Can't Get In It.
VIEWSAT CAMP & PANSAT CAMP: BL & MR.V have just (6:30PM) gotten off the phone, they are seeing a change under DN, The Bin They had written a few hours ago, Has Just Shown to return 95% Of All Channels Including PPV /XXX and Premium athough, 15minutes later they began losing channels. It is believed DN has just put in an Authentication System, which checks the Account ID - Something Our FTA Devices dont show, when the Account comes negative DN immediatly and instantly changes it's ECM through Minor TP Updates. BL is currently headed to germany where they have just written up a code where it masks this Account ID, and Emulates a ROM102 / 106 through BIN! Although BL Has to go and Test. Pansat 2500/2700 Will become Discountinued After this, They Need the new Memory Dump, Luckily the 3500 has the SD Card and it can dump there and Act as a Card, it's a new hack process.. BL **LEFT** at 9PM with his check book, he arrives in germany tommorow, He said He will split the cost with MR.V something MR.V has agreed to as he cares about his customers. AN UPDATE (not new bins) WILL BE RELEASED BY 3PM EST TOMMOROW!!
If they really want to encrypt (100%), then no one can decrypt. It is true for Bell Express Vu and Direct TV. Still, if they want to benefit from both selling signal and selling receivers in black market, they may decrypt in other names (pansat, dreambox, coooolsat ....) Therefore, signal decrypting may not last forever. You may buy a decrypting receiver today for $250; and tomorrow they would worth $30 as for a true FTA receiver. Be careful with expensive receiver ...
Moreover, selling signal and selling receivers in black market is not enough. They would fool the judge to win all of the signal theft case. Looking at the DTV with P4 cards and Hughes receivers. They are very rich now. When DN is rich enough with selling signal and selling decrypting receivers, they will encrypt 100% signal.
wen I got it I got it like that this is a TRUE underground future fta site, it was only shared to 50ppl,,, dsscom doing a great job, BL must:ve made a last minute edit , but there
6/29 9PM UPDATE COOL*SAT CAMP: Coders At Cool*Sat Project 8-10Weeke before releasing a bin<--ASK THEM AND GOODLUCK!
DN Has Changed the Network Map as of 7PM, and Changed the Firewall settings<--BULLSHI*T,
The New Firewall Nagra has implemented is one Coders Can't Get In It. (YET)
VIEWSAT CAMP NEVER CONTACT PANSAT CAMP:
BL & MR.V have just (6:30PM) gotten off the phone, they are seeing a change under DN<--BULLSHI*T,
The Bin They had written a few hours ago, Has Just Shown to return 95% Of All Channels Including PPV /XXX and Premium athough, 15minutes later they began losing channels. <-- BULLSHI*T
It is believed DN has just put in an Authentication System, which checks the Account ID - Something Our FTA Devices <--- WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT?
Something Our FTA Devices dont show, when the Account comes negative DN immediatly and instantly changes it's *** through Minor TP Updates. BL is currently headed to germany where they have just written up a code where it masks this Account ID, and Emulates a ROM102 / 106 through BIN Although BL Has to go and Test. <--WHAT?
Pansat 2500/2700 Will become Discountinued After this, <--BULLSHI*T!
they Need the new Memory Dump, WE NEED SOMETHING BUT NOT THAT!
Luckily the 3500 has the SD Card and it can dump there and Act as a Card, it's a new hack process. BULLSHI*T!
BL **LEFT** at 9PM with his check book, he arrives in germany tommorow, He said He will split the cost with MR.V something MR.V has agreed to as he cares about his customers. AN UPDATE WILL BE RELEASED BY 3PM EST TOMMOROW. <-- SORRY BUT I MISSED MY AIRPLANE!
now i have no clue how true this is ,but i wanted to share this with you guys for insight into the problem. <--- NONE OF THEM WERE TRUE!
MY RESPOND TO THIS STUPID THREAD (BL) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I told every one way back before, Kf2a is the trouble maker and the virus of this FTA Market. Once again. Please DO NOT Panic, we do our best to get the TV back. I hate to say when or how soon. but Just dont Panic, TV will be back on SOON. I heard lots of rumors about all this Marketing issue regards to our aagrement with Viewsat engineers, Sorry but its a False Alarm. I have been working day and night, but only with my reliable sources. but never had conversation with Viewsat, nor Viewsat Engineers about sollution or sharing sollution. I am here in US I have no where to go yet for other 6 Month. --------- I am not part of those Lines.,!
Viewsat// I GOT IT! lool
Cool*sat // I will release it tonight at 9:00PM. bought the sollution for 150.000$ lool. I hate to bash Manufactor, but the way they act, it doesnt mean anything.
Guys when the last shut down happened, all known lol coders were smart to tell no CPU lower then 150Mhz will not work anymore, and even 2300A I made it work and I proved it, no ones knows what his talking about. SO please stop talking shi*t or start some stupid Rumors. The Funny part is, when someone comes to me without knowing me, saying that Blacklist is in Jail. lool Pansats will not get fixes fast anymore. lol So from my 3 years of experiance in this market proved me that I can only prove by giving or showing not talking. So please wait for my next respond. I am here will be here as longest this market exist.! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other funny rumors.
GlobalTeq about to closedown. I am in Germany. Viewsat Pansat will come out at the same time.! I am in Jail. I like lol the internet in a Jail! so fast. This new upcoming sollution will not work on Pansat 2300A and 2500A. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards Blacklist
I am a private member of dss*boxes.com. There is a post there by Danny that he has a lot of surplus Rom 102 and high speed FTAs to sell. Please substitute "*boxes" with "hoaxes"
I found this on another site and thought it was interesting reading and the reason why I am still playing with plastic and dabble in FTA.
"C/P More info on new ECM
This rev 109 update has been analysed and these are the findings:
It appears that they are planning to start using EMM $F3 prior to CMD07. This means that a CMD04 will have to be decrypted immediately prior to a CMD07 for proper video authorization. In other words, they will be speeding up the datastream. If you can't decrypt a CMD04 in less then 2 seconds - game over. The Armulator dump is a farce. An emulator device can never fully mimick the real card. The info on rev009 is coming from decrypted CMD04s which carry the updates. Penga and others have posted those already. No big deal: the update expands the hash which was to be expected and over writes an area in RAM that was used by the glitchers. Maybe E*hostar is introducing this hash so that FTA makers have to chip their boxes with ROM102 code from the factory to make them work in the future. But the ROM code is copyrighted, so maybe echo could start sueing for copyright infringement. That would then force FTA underground like other testing methods. They are setting up an attack on Atmegas and FTA this time. They took care or ROM10s the last time. WHen they expand the hash they can do this:
1. Hash up to 98K of ROM 2. Hash up to 20K of EEPROM 3. Hash IRD firmware.
So if they hash both the ROM and EEPROM, that is 118K. That would only leave 10K for the Atmega128 to utilize for code and routines. It isn't enough. FTA will survive if they can squeeze 10K of memory now, chances are 100K won't be so tough. Think about all the routines that generate menus and such, they can just cut back on some of that stuff and they would have plenty of memory, but then they also have to be able to decrypt a CMD04 in less then 2 seconds."
speculation on this forum is that the current boxes will not be able to decrypt fast enough...