Bird 118.75
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Silver Member Username: BoycePost Number: 181 Registered: Apr-06 | copy and paste Lost most of channels at SAT 121 Tp3,tp5... Found this C & P from ekb.dbstalk.com Many international channels added to 118.75 (Listed as 119k on this chart). They all appear to be available to subscribers (JohnH at DBSTalk.com)) 657 ONGME ADDED TO Tp 17 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 658 BTN ADDED TO Tp 17 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 661 WOWTV ADDED TO Tp 17 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 668 JSTV ADDED TO Tp 17 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 676 JIC ADDED TO Tp 6 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 677 DRAGN ADDED TO Tp 18 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 679 PHNIN ADDED TO Tp 23 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 680 PHNIX ADDED TO Tp 14 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 681 CCTV4 ADDED TO Tp 14 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 685 ETCHI ADDED TO Tp 14 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 686 BEJTV ADDED TO Tp 6 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 688 JET ADDED TO Tp 14 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 689 TTV ADDED TO Tp 23 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 690 CTV ADDED TO Tp 23 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 691 CTS ADDED TO Tp 23 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 692 VLAND ADDED TO Tp 23 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 693 PTS ADDED TO Tp 23 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 694 CCTV9 ADDED TO Tp 18 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 695 CCEF ADDED TO Tp 18 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 696 CCMOV ADDED TO Tp 6 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 697 CCENT ADDED TO Tp 6 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 699 CCOPR ADDED TO Tp 6 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 700 GUAND ADDED TO Tp 18 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 701 FUJTV ADDED TO Tp 6 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 704 KBS ADDED TO Tp 17 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 705 ARANG ADDED TO Tp 17 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 706 CYRTV ADDED TO Tp 6 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 707 PACVI ADDED TO Tp 18 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 708 HUNAN ADDED TO Tp 6 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 712 MABHY ADDED TO Tp 2 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 725 DWTV ADDED TO Tp 14 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 726 PRSBN ADDED TO Tp 14 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 731 TV5 ADDED TO Tp 3 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 732 RFI ADDED TO Tp 3 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 735 TRACE ADDED TO Tp 3 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 749 ABNAM ADDED TO Tp 2 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 751 TELSD ADDED TO Tp 2 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 753 TAP1 ADDED TO Tp 2 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 754 TAP2 ADDED TO Tp 2 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 755 CHONE ADDED TO Tp 2 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 785 CARIB ADDED TO Tp 3 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 799 GEMNI ADDED TO Tp 7 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 800 SURYA ADDED TO Tp 7 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 801 KAIRA ADDED TO Tp 3 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 802 TEJA ADDED TO Tp 3 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 803 UDAYA ADDED TO Tp 17 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 804 NTV ADDED TO Tp 3 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 805 TARA ADDED TO Tp 17 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 806 CHNLI ADDED TO Tp 3 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 810 ASIFM ADDED TO Tp 3 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 811 SAWLD ADDED TO Tp 14 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 812 AMDES ADDED TO Tp 7 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 818 ATN ADDED TO Tp 14 on AMC-16 at 118.75w 905 ARMTV ADDED TO Tp 2 on AMC-16 at 118.75w c/p replace the linear lnb with a circular lnb. locate and peak echostar 7 at 119, lock down disk. replace with linear lnd . set antenna as with 121 with lo frequency st to 10750. signal and quality will be zero since there is no transponder listing yet. do blind scan to locate active transponders. channel will populate with international as well as the play*boy channel. I will try it tomorrow and post it result. |
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Gold Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 2996 Registered: Jan-06 | AMC16 aka 119K ..118.8W is a circular LNB with R/L polarity...www.lyngsat.com confirms that.. |
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Gold Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 2998 Registered: Jan-06 | Boyce...there is much controversy over which LNB and frequency to use...I have read probably the same posts as U stating linear with a 10750...but NOT according to lyngsat...so we'll need more info...I have heard peeps says they have been sucessful with either LNB.. Circular & Linear LNB's: What's the difference? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OK everyone, put your polarizing sunglasses on. What's the difference? Answer: About -3dB or half the signal level. Now take your sunglasses off. Notice how bright it is in here? The difference in brightness is an example of using the wrong lnb type. Circular and Linear polarization refer to the characteristics of the radio wave that is transmitted by the satellite towards your dish/LNB. Below are links to visual comparisons of Circular (Left or Right-hand) and Linear (Vertical or Horizontal) polarization. http://www.lyngsat.com/echo3.html Nimiq 2 @82.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/nimiq2.html Nimiq 1/3 @91.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/nimiq1.html EchoStar 6/8 @110.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c om/110west.html EchoStar 7 @119.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/echo7.html EchoStar 1/2 @148.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/148west.html How do I know they are circularly polarized? If you click on any one of the links for the satellites above you will notice that under the first column labeled as "Freq. Tp" you will find one of the following single letter designations: "R" = right-hand (=circular polarization)...14V "L" = left-hand (=circular polarization)...18V So what about linear polarization? Linear polarization refers to a wave of radio signal rotating in a single plane. Think of an approaching helicopter as the helicopter's main rotor is moving towards you. It is rotating in a single, horizontal plane. The same approaching helicopter's smaller rear rotor is rotating in a single, vertical plane. In our satellite case it can be either in the "H"orizontal or "V"ertical plane. The following example satellites (visable in N.America) are transmitting with a linear polarized signal: SBS 6 @74.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/sbs6.html AMC 5 @79.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/amc5.html AMC 9 @85.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/amc9.html IA 6 @93.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/ia6.html IA 5 @97.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/ia5.html AMC 1 @103.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/amc1.html AMC 2 at 105.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/amc2.html EchoStar 9 @121.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/echo9ia13.html Again, under the first column labeled as "Freq. Tp" you will find one of the following single letter designations: "V" = vertical (=linear polarization).......14V "H" = horizontal (=linear polarization)....18V Now that you understand the difference between the two satellite polarization types please put your polarizing sunglasses back on. Hmmm, a little harder to read this right? Well, that's what happens to your receiver when you try to use a linear polarized LNB to receive a circular polarized satellite signal and vis-a-versa. About a 50% loss of signal! Armed with the invaluable information you now possess, by using this link http://www.lyngsat.com/america.html you can determine for yourself what type of LNB you will need for each satellite. If you need a circular polarized LNB look for words describing it as "DSS" or "DBS" or "circular" or a combination of these terms. If you need a linear polarized LNB look for words describing it as "FSS" or "FTA" or "linear" or a combination of these terms (FYI: All Universal LNB's are linear LNB's). There are also LNB subtypes such as dual output or quad output. I won't go into that here because there are several discusions on this forum as well as a FAQ dealing with those subtypes. I suggest you use the excellent search feature as well as spend some time reading the all important "Sticky" threads. You can take your sunglasses off now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is very useful information. One more thing, you could use linear LNB to get circular signal with 50% signal lost. But you can't use circular LNB to get linear signal. Quote: ...you could use linear LNB to get circular signal with 50% signal lost. You will need a large dish to compensate for this loss. Quote: ...you can't use circular LNB to get linear signal. Technically incorrect. Trying to receive linear polarized signals with a circular polarized lnb (antenna) is possible with the same 3dB/50% loss of signal. The actual reason why you most likely cannot receive linear signals with circular lnb's is because most all "DSS" circular polarized lnb's are incapable of receiving the frequecies at which linear FSS signals occur: Standard FSS LNB (11.7-12.2 GHz) -------->DSS LNB (12.2-12.75 GHz) Universal FSS LNB (10.7-12.75 GHz) <-- has wide bandwidth |
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Gold Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 3004 Registered: Jan-06 | Boyce...U were correct...Linear AND a 30 inch dish well I just some more research...this AMC-16 move to the 118.7 is just a temp move until their return back to 85W...it is FSS KU band while at the 118.7 and a 30 inch dish will be required.. Great info attached.. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-757A1.pdf |
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Silver Member Username: BoycePost Number: 188 Registered: Apr-06 | I give up today, take me a hour still can not lock it, I better back to the shop and get the satellite meter tomorrow. |
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Gold Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 3029 Registered: Jan-06 | Its weird this test satellite...its linear but its also circular polarity..something that the DSS world has never seen before..I have a list of TP's and their frequencies in my thread 'DN international channels moved"...that will help U scan the bird...this is only a TEMP position the 118.75..as far as hitting the bird, its practically right ON the same as the 119! |
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Silver Member Username: BoycePost Number: 191 Registered: Apr-06 | I still have 1 invacom Qph-031 left over, I will use it to try, at least it can do both DSS & Liner. |
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Silver Member Username: BoycePost Number: 217 Registered: Apr-06 | It doesn't work at all, it need a fss 11.7-12.2 LNB?!! Kill me! give up for now |
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Bronze Member Username: KarlaCanada Post Number: 21 Registered: May-06 | C'mon guys!!...This could be the solution for my "issues" with the 119 bird. I have that circular LNB, I think I just need the 30inch dish... Keep trying Boyce! Thanks LK now I understand how how signals works... |
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Silver Member Username: BoycePost Number: 218 Registered: Apr-06 | Not DSS LNB 12.2-12.75, it is funny FSS LNB 11.7 - 12.2, 119 DSS LNB is not for that, I tried it already, and 121 linear LNB 11.7-12.2 is not work either, I tried it too. Also invacom Qph-031 LNB is not work too, too bad If it work, it can be 1 LNB for 2 bird. BTW I install them on a multistar 39 X 30 inch dish. |
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Gold Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 3042 Registered: Jan-06 | People are using the linear LNB with NO problems and aligning it to the 118.75 and doing scans and receiving the channels...and the 031 LNB works well also.. |
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Silver Member Username: BoycePost Number: 228 Registered: Apr-06 | that mean I have to try it at this weekend. Again. |
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Gold Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 3102 Registered: Jan-06 | Here is the DN LNB...  |
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Silver Member Username: BoycePost Number: 231 Registered: Apr-06 | I know, those are DPP. Hate it. I found this one, |
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