I have a new Fortec Ultra (european version from e-bay). With original euro software with Pal/NTSC setting-set to NTSC, it will scan and work proper. The only problem with orig. software you can't enter keys. After updated to a new NTSC bin (and I know it is a working bin) it shows signal and quality good, can see TP's but "No programs found" after a scan. I am not the only one with this problem, have read of others. I was told "The reason the NTSC software does not work for the receiver is because the IF tuner module is not the same as that used in North America. The NTSC software cannot interpret the signal correctly even if you have 100% quality. The only way to fix that would be to take the tuner demodulation related code from the PAL/NTSC bin and put it into the NTSC bin." ...... This could be FUN! ... Any takers? Thanx Men with Knowledge!