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twick Unregistered guest | Has anyone puchased this set yet? I know it's new to market but I am thinking of purchasing it this weekend. It seems to have a great picture and features for the price. I am debating over the extnded warranty (pricy). Looking for any info on initial reaction to this tv. |
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Klaus Unregistered guest | this is virtually the same set as the 63 series but adds cable card and integrated HD tuner. These may or may not cause problems. If you use the set with cable or satellite, it is a moot point since both will be bypassed , unless you opt for the cable card. The cable card with cable is a very questionable move since it is one way only and does not allow use of the guide, pay per views and video on demand. The weak spots on the 63 series have been addressed by Samsung, as you will notice by the drop in Samsung complaints on these threads. I would susuepct that the 63 series updates have been already incorporated into the 67 series. Buy it and enjoy! |
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Anonymous | I'm with you twick. I'm thinking about purchasing this tv soon as well. From what I've read the 67 series is almost the same tv as the kirk 85 series without the pedestal. I'm would like to read some reviews to hear what people are saying..... |
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terkar Unregistered guest | I saw the HLR5667 yesterday in BB - Cool looking case and great picture. I am expecting my 5067 to arrive Tuesday. Got a great price $2052 from Office Depot. BTW: My understanding is that this unit has the HD4 chip. I would think there are a number of other advances as well so doubt that it is the same as the 63 series - if it was why not just add the tuner and keep the HLPxx63 designation? |
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MikeVt Unregistered guest | Well I just joined the Sammy club as well...expecting delivery of an HLR6167 on Friday. This will be my third set in 3 months. The first one was an RCA HD61LPW162 that I LOVED but had a problem with 480i images. The one being replaced now is a Toshiba 62HM84 - with shut off and image geometry issues. I really hope Sammy comes through for me. There certainly seems to be some devoted fans here - let's hope. The 67 series is definitely based on the HD3 (I can tell in 2 seconds by looking at the picture), but with a newer light engine. My other two sets were HD2+ based, so I am taking a step down - and paying more for it. It's somewhat of a disappointment, but I'm hoping that the Sammy still has a crisp HD picture. I couldn't see it running any 1080i images in the store. The HD2+ HD 1080i images were breathtaking and I hope I wasn't spoiled. If anyone is interested, I'll post again after I get it and runs some tests... MikeVt |
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FYI Unregistered guest | Anon said, " the 67 series is almost the same tv as the kirk 85". The HL-"R" xx67 is not like anything before it, not even the 63. The HL-"P" xx67 is very much like the 63. It just has the digital tuner and CableCard slot. Both use the HD3 chip. The 85 has an HD2+. The HL-"R" xx67 has a new chip that's twice as fast at mirror switching than all previous chips. It's incorporated into a fifth generation light engine. The image is projected onto the new floating screen design. It just arrived at a few retailers last week. No reviews yet. Maybe you guys will be the first. |
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terkar Unregistered guest | Every internet site I have looked at indicates the new HLR series has either the HD2+ or HD4 chip with a contrast ratio of up to 2500:1. I called Samsung and was told HD4. I ordered the set from Office Depot and was told HD4. So......Has anyone seen or heard anything indicating the chip is HD3? If so please pass on where you saw this. Hard to believe Samsung would just relabel the old HLP series. |
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MikeVt Unregistered guest | Ok...maybe I should have been more careful when I said HD3. What I meant was that it is still a 'diamond' pattern wobble chip (1:2 mirror ratio), not an octagonal pattern chip (1:1 mirror ratio) like the HD2+. What this means is that the image will be softer than the HD2+. It's true that it may be a newer version of the actual HD3 chip with higher contrast ratio, but it's still a .55in, cost reduced chip. I have compared last year's Toshiba 50HM84 (HD2+) to this year's Sammy HLR5067 (HDwhatever) side by side and I see a clear difference. The motion does appear smoother on the Sammy, but the Toshi has the edge on image crispness. You can clearly tell the 67 is using a wobble chip just by looking at the screen close up...you can see the diamond shaped pixels. The difference is most noticable to me on moving horizontal lines. I'll have a better feeling on whether this softness will bother me after I get my set. I do expect it to be a step down, but I hope it's not really significant. MikeVt |
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Unregistered guest | MikeVt: Let me know about the 6167 as that is the set I plan to purchase. What did you pay for it? I expect prices to come down shortly. |
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MikeVt Unregistered guest | Oh man....I've got a bad feeling about this. I just stopped by my local Circuit City to see if they had any of the new HLR-xx67 models on display. Sure enough, they had a 5667. It was side by side with 6 or so other 50-60 in sets (mostly RP LCD), and the Samsung EASILY had the worst picture of the bunch. I tried adjusting thing contrast, sharpness, etc....all to no avail. They were playing ESPN HD, and it looked pretty horrible. Even though the wobble chips are supposed to remove the traditional screen door effect, the diamond shaped pixels were clearly more visible from 5 feet away then the square pixels of the other sets. I have this horrible sinking feeling that I have continued my trend of paying more for less. I gave up the nice RCA with one minor problem for a higher priced Toshiba with fewer features and it's own set of problems. Now I fear I have paid even more for the worse picture of the Samsung. My 6167 comes on Friday, and I suppose if it's bad I can return it and totally give up. I've about had it with this crap. Is it too much to ask for a big TV with a good, clear, rectangular shaped picture (Toshiba had pincushion issues) with no black vertical lines (RCA)? As far as price, I paid a little over $3k for the Samsung... MikeVt |
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To MikeVt Unregistered guest | Your f-ing screwed in the head! You have yourself psyched for failure! There is no wobulation of existing chips. That's a feature of the 1080P chip, not yet available. It's a line doubling technique to achieve 1080p (1920x1080) Resolution. You see crap for signal at any retail store! No exceptions! It's absolutely no indicator for your home experience. Don't over-think! Don't over-analyze! Try to stay back from any big screen 10 to 15 feet. This Friday, set it up with a true digital off-air or sat HD signal. I reccommend the Samsung SIR TS360 Direct TV HD/Terestrial HD receiver. Do not even think about cable as a signal source. Do not even think about trying the CableCard slot. Use component (Pr, Pb, Y) cables only!!! Turn the sharpness down to 30. Turn the color down to 45. Keep the contrast up to 80-90. Brightness at 45-50 for room light. Prepare to be stunned! Discovery HD will blow you away! You will drop your jaw in awe! Nothing compares or even comes close! I highly reccommend HDNET on Monday nights!!! Bikini Destinations, Hawaiian Tropic Contests! Vegas Girl Search! Acapulco, Maui, Rio, etc... |
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New member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 9 Registered: May-05 | MikeVT: I agree with the above post. In the big box stores cables are plugged, unplugged and generally messed up by mostly idiots. I have friends with the 5063 model that have a picture that is great! Same chip! I have the 74 series with HD2+ and it is amazing as well. Get it home, hook it up with good quality component cables(skip the monsters they are highway robbery). |
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Samsung6167DLP Unregistered guest | I'm about to buy the Samsung HLR-6167 61" DLP from Best Buy for $3,200 because it is the best combination of screen size and brightness without burn-in. Any other issues? |
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Curious1 Unregistered guest | It's too new for reviews! Perhaps you can let us know. |
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MikeVt Unregistered guest | Well you're right about one thing, I do worry too much and tend to set myself up for failure. ;) However, I'm not worrying anymore - I cancelled my 6167 order. (So I won't be reporting on it.) To 'To MikeVt', where did you get your info? Circuit City sales 'tech'? Before throwing insults, it wouldn't hurt you to do some reading. Believe what you want, but it is pretty well documented on the web that anything after the HD2+ uses 'wobulation' - or a 2:1 pixel to mirror ratio. Here's a link that contains several additional links where this is discussed. It's also said in several places that Sammy lovers will argue that their sets look best - while Toshi owners will argue that theirs look best. I don't care who makes it....I just want the one that looks best, and in my opinion, the HD2+ looks best. I don't think the new Sammy 67 series looks any better than the 63 series - and I have now looked at two 67's. Both of these lines use wobble chips - not the HD2+. Any time 'smooth picture' is mentioned, it's a wobble chip. In my opinion, the HD2+ just looks MUCH better - and there are many people in the forums that agree. There are also many who like the look of the wobble chips because they smooth out the screen door effect making the image more filmlike - read that as 'less crisp'. It is said that watching a game on an wobble chip set usually gets a 'WOW' response - while a game on and HD2+ gets a 'Holy Sh#t'. In the end, it's really up to you. As far as the accuracy of my comparison, trust me...I've been painstakingly comparing images for several months now - both in an out of my home. In case you haven't figured it out, I AM a techno weenie. I am comparing apples to apples. I realize that the images shown in stores often isn't of the highest quality. In this case, it was RELATIVE PQ that mattered - I was comparing several sets, all running the same feed at the same time, and the Sammy looked the worst. I also find it hard to believe that it was tortured given that it had just arrived. Also, as I said in a previous post, I tried a variety of contrast, sharpness, etc. settings. I was really debating whether or not I should get defensive and write all this. However, given that there are several other folks reading this forum, I want to make sure they have enough information to make an informed decision. Good luck all...I hope you enjoy your Samsungs - and I really mean that. I have nothing against them. I just like my current set better. MikeVt |
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To MikeVt Unregistered guest | Like I said, "Your f-ing screwed in the head!" In the future, don't use another forum thread to support your fiction. Try the Texas Instruments web sight for facts. My information comes from owner experience! Couldn't you tell by the detail? You blew it dude! Good luck with whatever. |
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MikeVt Unregistered guest | Ok...whatever you say. Have fun folks. Clearly those who care have stopped reading this thread by now. Tootles... MikeVt |
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terkar Unregistered guest | Received my HLR5067 yesterday from the fantastic Office Depot deal. Picture very good right out of the box and a few tweaks with color, contrast, brightness, etc made it even better. For now I am just using my non HD TIVO unit (DIRECTV) hooked up the S-video with monster cables and used the red/white for audio. No lip sync issues and no rainbow. This is a great set. Expect the TR46x3 stand to arrive this afternoon. |
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To terkar Unregistered guest | Man...you need to use those component inputs! S-Video only seperates luminance. B&W Component seperates luminance and chrominance. (Color) You don't need Monster R G B's, either! Target has excellent gold plated insulated GE's. The Pr, Pb, Y component input passes 480P and up from progressive scan or upscaling DVD players and digital off-air (free HD) signals from terrestrial receivers. You can pick up a Samsung SIR TS360 Direct TV HD/Terrestrial HD receiver and it will integrate the free off-air digital HD networks with the DTV programming in the same guide. Just hook up a Radio Shack or Winegard old style UHF antenna to get the free stuff. The crisp clear picture will blow you away. I can thumb the channel up through three different Fox 4 signals. The first channel 4 is sat, second is off-air vhf, third is off-air uhf digital with HD primetime, which blows the other two away. Primetime programming goes full screen HD for free. Same for all the local networks. I get extra digital weather channels on several networks too. It beats standard sat reception all to hell even if you don't get the eliptical dish and subscribe to DTV HD yet. Although, you should! Your missing Discovery HD and worse, your missing HDNET on Monday nights. They have Bikini Destinations, with a different beach every week. Maui, Rio, Acapulco, etc. Also, the Miss Hawaiian Tropic Contests and other great stuff like first run concerts. Dude...tune this stuff in. It's what that set was made for. |
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terkar Unregistered guest | Thanks for your response. Wish I could get free HD off the airwaves but one of the drawbacks to living in these beautiful mountains of Western North Carolina is no HD broadcasts from the networks - at least not yet. I used to live in San Diego then Tucson and am sure both places have the HD but.... OK, Now for the cable stuff. What are B$W Component Cables? (Yes, at 65, I am a bit challenged by all this stuff) and what is Pr, Pb, Y? is this the Red, White and Yellow? thought this was the worst connection? I can get a set of RBG component cables (Not Monster) is this what I should use to connect the TIVO to the TV? I can understand if you don't want to take the time to respond to all these questions but thanks a bunch if you do. |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 18 Registered: May-05 | Terkar: Pr, Pb, and y are the individual signals of component video inputs(color codes are red, blue, green). You will get the most bang for the buck by using these rather than S-video or the old red,white , yellow composite video signals. Cables can be had inexpensively. I got a GE cable from Circuit City which had the 3 composite conductors plus a optical audio conductor for 19.95. Make sure that you have a "progressive scan DVD player" as well and that the output is correctly set up to output progressive video. This will be the closest you will come to true HD content for now. |
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New member Username: JlrPost Number: 1 Registered: May-05 | What is the difference/benefit of the 67 series versus the 77 series? Thanks |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 21 Registered: May-05 | 77 series has a very thin bezel around the screen making it very small cabinet wise for the amount of screen. A real plus for small spaces. It uses the HD2+ chip and 6 segment color wheel with a 2000:1 contrast ratio. The HLP 67 series uses the HD3 chip with 7 segment color wheel with a 1500:1 contrast ratio. It has a wider screen bezel so the set is a bit wider than a comparable screen size 77 series. The HLR 67 series uses a faster version of the HD3 chip and has contrast ration of 2500:1 The 5067 has been reported to have no lag for gaming. No firm info on other screen sizes in the 67 series or the 77 series. |
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TWICK Unregistered guest | I own the HLR4667 and my DVD is sammy HD850 up conversion player connected via an HDMI cable. I have picture (beautiful 1080i res.) but no sound through a sterer system linked directly to the TV. I do have sound through the stereo from tv stations but not DVDs. I do get DVD sound through the tv itself...any suggestions on how it may need to be programmed or hooked up to get DVD audio through the stereo? |
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TWICK Unregistered guest | I WILL ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION>>> Called SAMMY and... I believe I will try using component cables and see if I get audio that way. HDMI apparently wont work...I will lose my 1080i resolution but gain sound quality (decisions decisions). Does anybody know the rtesolution capability of component cables...or will the difference be noticable? |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 22 Registered: May-05 | TWICK: You can still use the HDMI cable from DVD to Tv, the problem is that you have no connection from the dvd audio to your receiver. If your receiver and DVD player have it, connect the audio out on DVD to Audio in on receiver via optical cable. If you only have coaxial output and input use that. This will allow full Dolby Digital sound from your player. By the way component is capable of 1080i but is analog, not digital as is the HDMI. I use component and picture is great. |
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TWICK Unregistered guest | Thanks Klaus... My other option is to use the RCA to connect DVD to stereo in the one stereo input (only one, currently used for tv)--> just switch cords from tv to DVD everytime I want to watch a DVD. I'll probaly try that first since I already have an RCA cord, if it becomes a pain i will by a component cable. Now, If only I could use the built in tuner to get free local HD channels via a cable (COMCAST) line without buying an antenna or paying more for digital service and/or paying for the HD service. |
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Terkar Unregistered guest | Thanks KLAUS - Will pick up a set of RBG Component cables - Probably a Samsung Progressive Scan DVD Player in a couple of days. |
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New member Username: PaulePost Number: 1 Registered: May-05 | Hello everyone - I'm new to this board and extremely inpressed with the courtesy and knowledge of the members. I have exhaustively researched buying a widescreen over the month or so and have finally decided on the Samsung HLR 5667. I have gone back and forth between the 5674 and 5667 but looked to me like the 5667 picture is a bit better - can't find anywhere that the two tv's are displayed at the same store. Having finally decided, I have some questions on hooking everything up, especially the digital surround sound. I have Directv Tivo (will be getting HD Directv Tivo), DVD player, VCR (not sure if I'm hooking up)and basic cable thru homeowners association. With all the connections available on the 5667, do I hook everything up to the TV and then the TV's audio output to the receiver or is it necessary to hook up audio or video directly to the receiver first. Thanks |
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FYI Unregistered guest | There are enough inputs to hook up everything direct, which is certainly the best method. I use component cables (RGB) and (Pr, Pb, Y) inputs for all video feeds. There should be a digital coax or a digital optical output from the new HD receiver, which you can connect directly to your SS Home Theater receiver. Since you are not going to use a DTV HD/Terrestrial HD integrated receiver, like the Samsung SIR TS360, you will want to hook up a standard old UHF antenna to your digital tuner input on the set so you can receive digital and HD network programming off-air for free. You will have to switch inputs. Your basic cable may or may not include digital network signals. Retire the VCR for a DVR or connect the dinosaur to it's own set input. Scaled up VCR signal doesn't look to good, though. Some folks are converting there VCR libraries to recordable DVD's with devices made to do this. Others are just starting a new DVD collection. Remember, widescreen DVD's will have black bars, top and bottom, if they are 2:35.1 format. The sweet widescreen format is 1:85.1. The old full screen format of 4:3 will have black bars on the sides and is a 1:35.1 format. Some like to use the Panoramic or Zoom features for the older DVD formats and standard NTSC tv broadcasts, but I don't like it myself. I got used to the black bars rather quickly and prefer the picture to look normal. Digital network broadcasts will have black bars on the sides unless they show a true HD program, usually during primetime and sporting events. Even so, the digital blows away the VHF we all used to watch. It's crystal clear and twice the lines of resolution. Make sure you have a progressive scan DVD player, most new one's are, and go into the player's menu and set it up for 16:9 widescreen and 480P output. If you are going to by a new one, the upscaling players are not much more and will output the native 720P of your set. If you want to use a DVI/HDMI cable the DVD player is where to use it. Take the digital audio straight to your SS Home Theater receiver. Now, sit back and enjoy it. You're in home theater heaven! |
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New member Username: PaulePost Number: 2 Registered: May-05 | Thanks for your input FYI. I'm still a little confused. When you say hook everything up direct I assume you mean to the 5667. The sorround sound will work on the DVD and the Directv HD tuner that way? Also - according to Directv, the Directv HD tivo comes with a tuner for local hd broadcasts and they install an antenna that attaches to the tuner. So I should be able to pick up the local channels. Any suggestions on the upscaling dvd player? |
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FYI Unregistered guest | Yes, direct to the set! Yes, your SS receiver has input selection for each device on the remote. It's the only way you will receive all 5-7 channels of audio for Dolby, DTS, etc. Sounds great about the digital tuner, but the indoor antenna may not provide enough signal for local off-air reception. You will know it's deficient if the audio cuts out or the picture freezes, fragments, or drops out. Be prepared to use an outdoor type Radio Shack or Winegard UHF antenna. (about $25-$40) Mines in the attic. It all depends on how close you are to the local broadcast towers and, of course, terrain. I like the Samsung HD841 upscaling DVD player. It has a DVI output. I purchased a refurb in like-new condition from TigerDirect. They run about $199, but mine was $69 with warranty and, get this, it had a DVI cable in the box! Unbelievable! Here's the link! http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=12939 31&Sku=L420-5032&SRCCODE=PRICEGRABBER&CMP=OTC-PRICEGRABBER http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?sort_type=price&masterid=2896859& isbn=&pid= |
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jam83b Unregistered guest | anyone using the cable card? i have a 6167 and the cable card isnt working and the cable company is not being helpful |
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FYI Unregistered guest | Don't use the CableCard. It is a flawed technology. You will only be extremely frustrated. You shouldn't even be using cable with that big display. You won't be satisfied with the picture quality until you provide the best signal sources. The best digital and HD signal for free is obtained with an old UHF antenna connected to your digital tuner input. I use an SIR TS360 Direct TV HD/Terrestrial HD receiver, which combines the off-air digital networks with the DTV standard programming. I'm using component RGB video cables and the Pr, Pb, Y input on the set. My picture is crystal clear. Even the old NTSC 4:3 standard definition looks excellent from the Direct TV receiver. The digital network off-air signals are supurb. Primetime and sporting events fill the screen completely with an outstanding picture. If you have a DVD player make sure it's a progressive scan model. Go into the menu of the player an set it up for 16:9 and 480P output. Again, use component video cables or a DVI/HDMI cable for thebest possible picture. |
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JimM Unregistered guest | I purchased the 5667 Saturday. Was evaluating the RCA 50" Scenium so I have these side by side now. Both sets out-of-the-box setups. The RCA blows away the Sammy on standard channels. On digital channels, the RCA still has the advantage. When it comes to HD, the quality is about the same except the RCA has better contrast in the darker areas of the picture. Also when watching water polo, the Sammy could not reproduce the flashing water surface - went to pixelated blocks while the RCA was fine. I expected more from the Samsung. The RCA is just a tab small for my viewing preferences so the upgrade to the 56". My wife and I looked at a lot of sets before we selected the RCA. Then we looked at a lot of sets before we selected the 56" Samsung. (Close runner-up was Epson HTPS) We both wish that JVC had their new 56" DLIA out. I feel that we'd buy and keep that one. BTW, using cable box and tried both component and HDMI connections. The RCA with components beat the Samsung with HDMI. |
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New member Username: PaulePost Number: 3 Registered: May-05 | FYI - I bought a Samsung HD 850 open box from Best Buy yesterday for $119 - pretty decent price. It connects via HDMI and the cable was included. What's the difference between that and the HD 841? Also =, I had some initial problems when I hooked up my current Directv Tivo - the sound was a second or two behind the video. per Best Buy's suggestion, I added another optical audio cable from the 5667 to the ss receiver and this seemed to do the trick. |
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FYI Unregistered guest | Hi Paul, There's no real difference in the two other than one is DVI and the newer HD850 is HDMI. Are you saying you have two optical cables between the Tivo and the SS receiver? Seems like they would be on two different inputs, of which, you can only here one at a time. I'm confused there. |
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FYI Unregistered guest | JimM, The problem lies with out of the box set-ups. Samsung is never correct for viewing straight out of the box. I wouldn't think RCA would be either. The Samsung is always too hot on color, too high on sharpness, etc. It will shimmer water just as brilliantly as any display when properly calibrated. I hope you're happy with the RCA, though I feel your evaluation was a crapshoot. After all, that's why they call them adjustments. If the factory could lock in the perfect balance they would and there would be no adjustments. I encourage you to look up the price of a replacement lamp for your model. Some RCA models require a $600 replacement lamp. Anything above $200 is just stupid! |
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New member Username: PaulePost Number: 4 Registered: May-05 | FYI - there are several optical inputs on my SS. One I used for the audio connection from the DVD player. To get rid of the Directv audio problem - I have the Dirctv box hooked up to the 5667 with S-video and RCA cables for audio (only video/audio out on the DTV receiver). Then, I connected another optical out from the 5667 to the SS. Seems to work fine now. Only problem is that the picture on the 5667 from Directv is excellent on some channels, and so-so on others. I was watching the basketball game last night and it takes some time to get used to. There installing the new Directv HD Tivo on Sat. Hope this cleans up the problem. Thanks for all of your help. |
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New member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 1 Registered: May-05 | Hopefully the new receiver will have the component and digital audio outputs you need. Good luck! |
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JimM Unregistered guest | FYI - I wasn't trying to be that scientific about the evaluation. I did notice that when I switched the HDMI for component connections, the Samsung improved significantly on analog bc. Any suggestions about calibrating the Sammy? My wife complains that it does not have the sharpness that she would like to see (clear lettering ala LCD sets). Does anybody have a discussion regarding how the Sharpness control works with the DLP chips? |
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JimM Unregistered guest | FYI - I wasn't trying to be that scientific about the evaluation. I did notice that when I switched the HDMI for component connections, the Samsung improved significantly on analog bc. Any suggestions about calibrating the Sammy? My wife complains that it does not have the sharpness that she would like to see (clear lettering ala LCD sets). Does anybody have a discussion regarding how the Sharpness control works with the DLP chips? |
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New member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 3 Registered: May-05 | Hi Jim, I'm not sure if these settings will help, but you can try them. The Samsungs are generally hot on color. I discovered these settings using the THX set-up on the "Ladder 49" DVD. Color Tone = Normal Mode = Standard Contrast = 90-95 Brightness = 45-50 depending on room ambient light. Sharpness = 20-25 Color = 40-43 or to your taste. Don't overdrive it. Tint = mine is greyed out because I'm using Pr, Pb, Y input. In Setup and Color Weakness my green is on 3 I can't argue that the LCD's don't look fantastic, but they don't handle fast motion scenes or even letter crawls nearly as well as DLP. The new generation of JVC D-ILA LCOS is supposed to have a much improved refresh rate, though. They just haven't hit the retailers yet. Good luck! |
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New member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 4 Registered: May-05 | Jim, I saw that you had written analog bc. If that stands for basic cable I sure hope yours is better than most people's. I here more complaints about basic cable reception than anything else. I'm a firm believer in Direct TV receivers and digital network off-air. Signal is everything on a high resolution big screen. Analog cable and VCR pictures are usually crap after your tv scales it to 720 lines. |
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Gary B Unregistered guest | I want to buy the Samsung HLR 5667. Any suggestions where I should buy it online or in a store. I live near chicago. |
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New member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 9 Registered: May-05 | I like Digital 1234. Best Buy PCS is another 5 star. Check for the best shipping rate by entering your zip. Resort on the right for "bottom line price". http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?sort_type=price&masterid=8711908& isbn=&pid= |
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treehead Unregistered guest | I have been reading this thread and just wanted to let everyone know that Samsung, as a company, kicks butt! I had purchased the HLP5063 about 10 months ago and always noticed those mysterious smudges we have all heard aboout. Well I ignored it until 2 months ago and finally called Samsung to see what they can do. Since I was outside of the service are they shipped me a brand new tv. I was psyched and suprised. Well come to find out the new one has the "mysterious smudges" as well. I called Samsung 2 weeks ago and just asked them if they could send me a a new HLR5067 and I would pay the difference. The CSR said hold on, came back on the phone and said sure, but it will be NO CHARGE! I cannot believe that they are replacing my HLP5063 with a new HLR5067 at no cost. This company rocks!! I should have it next week and I will give it an honest and fair review. To be continued...... |
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CloakedHunter Unregistered guest | Hello everyone. I ordered a Samsung HL-R6167W yesterday, so it should arrive sometime next week. Should I have any regrets? My primary concerns have been related to the sync issues with audio and gaming, but everything I've read indicates that this issue was resolved with the new 67 series. Is there any evidence either way, specifically with the 61 inch model? Thanks in advance for the help and information. |
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Helpful Smurf Unregistered guest | I just joined the Samsung club too, it will arrive next Wednesday, the first day I have off work at BB. I work in Home theater and after looking at all the sets and researching them thoroughly I was just about to pull the trigger on the Toshiba 52 inch DLP, until I read up on the 67 series. I absolutely hated the 63's they were total junk at our store but it looks like the 67's are vastly improved. I had become something of a fan of the set when I saw it side by side with the new LG DLP and saw much deeper blacks and much better detail in most of the HD store loop segments. The difference was so stark that when the demo "Kirk" Samsung sold they moved the 5067 into it's old spot, right in the harshest light on the endcap in the aisle that you can imagine. Suprise suprise, the set STILL looks awesome if you stay back 5-10 feet from it (normal viewing range) even in what would be very unkind lighting for a projection set to be displayed in. After showing to many people and selling many I decided to put my money where my mouth was and bought one myself. So now when people ask me "What TV would you buy?" I will point at the 5067 and say "That's the TV I Bought.". Ive actually had people come back and thank me for showing them the set once theirs arrived as they were so thrilled with how it looks and how much screen they were able to get for their money. I regularly get people come in who think that they have to buy a 5-6000 dollar plasma if they want to go HD and being able to show them a set that is just as big, looks every bit as good, that is going to last longer and is fine for videogames or to use as a computer monitor and costs half to one third of what they thought they would have to spend is a big source of pride for me. I'm actually helping people, not just making sales. Since I'm non commission I don't have to sell the plasma and I like that, I'd have a tough time with my conscience if I did, knowing what I know about the downsides of plasma. The only ones I don't bother telling about projector sets are the twits that think you HAVE to hang your set over the firplace. Whoever came up with that particular brainstorm should be shot. I can't think of a worse place to put a TV. Unnatural viewing angle for starters and the thought that some of these geniuses might acually have a roaring fire under their 6000 dollar TV sets just amazes me. Anyway, yesterday when I was at work we had a truck come in and I saw the fruits of my labors, three 5067's and a 6167 headed out to happy customers in the morning deliveries! I have two days off in a row next week and I can't wait to spend it setting up, tuning it up and putting it through it's paces! HS |
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Bronze Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 13 Registered: May-05 | Great posts guys! CloakedHunter, I don't think you will have any regrets. You guys are some of the first to get HLR's. Let us know what you think of them. |
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Silver Member Username: AngelogPost Number: 111 Registered: Nov-04 | Just received my HL-R5667W last night. This is after a lot of research last year and owning a JVC for 6 months (but that is another story). Picture clarity is very good and sharp. I put the set thru DV Essentials .. it performed nicely and it was helpful in tweeking the set a bit. I had some HD content stored on PVR and the set is performing as well or better than the JVC in most areas. Very good dark performance (but the DVE disk helped tremendously in getting the brightness and contrast correct). The floating design is very attractive as well. The set turns on and off very quickly for a RPTV too. Angelo |
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JimKW Unregistered guest | You guys are causing me great pain. I bought myself a Xmas present last year. It's a Pioneer Elite VSX 54TX Receiver. Now I have great sound, but not that good of a picture. I was so happy 12 years ago when I got my direct view 40" Mistsubishi TV, but now it's just not state of the art. After reading things on the Internet (mostly this thread) I am leaning heavily to the HLR5067. (It's the biggest screen I can fit into the entertainment center I had custom built for the 40" Mits.) But some people really want to get something with the HD2+ chip. What models have that chip? Or is the HD4 better? |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 34 Registered: May-05 | Jim Try the 5674 0r 5677 They have a slimmer cabinet design and have the HD2+ chip. Bear in mind though that the HLPXX67 models have the newer chip with 2500:1 contrast and 7 segment faster color wheel . |
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JimM Unregistered guest | The remote control with the xx67 series is different. Many of the Easy Contol Buttons are missing (p mode, s mode, scan, locate, swap, size, set, v chip, sleet, and add/erase). Nearly all of these controls have to be done thru the Menu. Also, there is no way to turn DNLe off - just a demo of on/off. Trying to use DVD Essentials to set the colors, etc. is not effective. When you select "My Colors" from the Menu, instead of allowing you to change the colors with a test bar, you get a built-in picture showing a lady on a fixed background. Frustrating. To watch PIP is almost impossible. All swap and other features are only available through the Menu. Also, the service menu is no longer available with the old commands: Menu+1+etc. Anyone know what the new commands are? |
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JimKW Unregistered guest | Can not fit the 56" screen in my cabinet. The inside width of my cabinet is 47". Even the 50" may not fit. The wood trim around my cabinet will cover the edge of the TV, but I don't want to go down to the 46" even though it would fit fine. |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 35 Registered: May-05 | JimM: Sounds like a Harmony remote would be very useful. It allows customized buttons for any feature. Even direct access to menu functions that Samsung requires to go through menu to get to. I have the 680 with a hlp4674. Also it is very family friendly. Conceivably you could program a service menu macro as well. |
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Helpful Smurf Unregistered guest | JimKW, You REALLY should consider what you want more in your TV/Home theater room. A TV or a piece of furniture. I don't know anyone who has ever been actually entertained by an "entertainment center", it's the stuff you put in it that matters. You are placing the needs of the piece of furniture above your own, doesn't that seem silly to you? If you want to watch furniture the dining room will probably suit you. if you want to watch a TV then cast off the bonds of that dang entertainment center!!!! It can be hard I know but look at what you are going to spend on a new television and consider how much you might have spent on that piece of furniuture and how long you have had it. Change is hard I know but sometimes we let ourselves get stuck in a rut and don't even realize it. I had a couple come in a week or two ago, they were doing just what you are, trying to fit a hole in a cabinet they had just ordered for their new home. After looking at a bunch of TVs with measuring tape in hand and driving themselves crazy I asked them just the question I asked you. They went away a bit puzzled at this, but came back a couple of hours later. They were liberated, excited and happy that they now had all the options in the world. They decided to kiss off the 100 dollar deposit on the 1100 dollar cabinet and cancel it and do you know they felt great about it? They went nuts and had a great time and decided on a Samsung 5667 (nice) a new home theater system, and installation. They were so relieved and so happy (both of them) and their kids are going to be pumped when they see what they get to hook their X-box up to! Stop letting furniture decide what you can and cannot watch!!! HS |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 39 Registered: May-05 | The sentiment above is well meant but are you married SMURF? |
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New member Username: Helpful_smurfPost Number: 1 Registered: Jun-05 | Yes, happily for 5 years. It's a balancing act, I know. HS |
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HES Unregistered guest | I just purchased a 5677 since it fits in my existing 50" cabinet. (No remodel possible). Great set, but just too big for the room and I also notice fan/wheel noise when at low volume. Thinking about 5067. Is it noticeably quieter? Also concerned about downgrading from H2+ to H3 (even if an improved chip). Picture quality alone, is there a material difference? Thanks in advance.. |
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Bronze Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 17 Registered: May-05 | Must be a small room! The 56" isn't that big! You can't here any Samsung fan from 8 feet unless the cabinet is amplifying it. I don't like cabinets for three reasons, now! 1) Restricts the choices because of space restrictions. 2) The heat has nowhere to go. That's bad! 3) Unwanted sounds are projected toward the viewer. "Thinking about 5067. Is it noticeably quieter?" Not inside your cabinet! "Also concerned about downgrading from H2+ to H3" The HL-"R" xx67 is the HD4, which is no downgrade! "Picture quality alone, is there a material difference?" There are not many "R" series owners yet. Angelo likes his! I reccommend you take the 5677 out of the cabinet and put it in the corner of the room. View it from the opposite corner. Find a larger room if necessary. |
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Anon5000 Unregistered guest | HES - Go look at a 67. It is critical that you do before you buy. There are a lot of posts on this board that claim the 67 series uses an 'HD4', a new faster switching, higher contrast ratio version of the HD3. In truth, TI has moved away from the HDx naming convention, so it's not easy to find documentation or specs. If anyone has any pointers to spec sheets on the TI site, I'd appreciate them. The only thing Samsung seems to say is that the 67's use a new light engine. Either way, I have looked at many 67's now, and they look the same as the HD3 to me. New chip or not, it has the same diamond shaped pixels as an HD3. In other words, a noticable step down from the HD2+ crispness. I don't care if it has a marginally higher contrast ratio. I prefer picture sharpness. Only you can decide if you will like it. Anon5000 |
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JimKW Unregistered guest | Helpful Smurf, I appreciate what you are saying, and if the the 50" would not fit then I might have to modify the Entertainment Center. But I designed my whole house around this EC. I know it's hard to believe but I had the center custom built by the Amish out of solid oak with the 40" Direct View Mitsubishi as the main component. The EC cost almost $4,000 eight years ago. Then we custom designed and built a new house. It has a cathedral ceiling and the original design did not have the TV centered under the peak of the ceiling. We had the EC resessed into the wall and had to redesign the house behind the Center so that the TV is centered under the peak of the ceiling. Then we had all oak trim put in the house and stained to match the EC. I knew all along that I would have to buy a new TV that would fit in the opening for the TV that was in there. From my viewing distance the 50" is just what I want. Again thank you for you input, but I am keeping my Entertainment Center. I had to cut the back out of part of it to fit the Pioneer Elite Receiver I bought myself for Xmas too. I also have a trap door in the closet behind the EC so I can get to all the wires with relative ease. As you can tell this is not just a piece of furniture to me. |
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Unregistered guest | Hello everyone, I am new here, with a limited knowledge. Have some basic questions and appreciate anyone taking time to answer them. I was initially interested in buying a Sony 57" CRT rptv(the bulky one) but convinced myself to try out the newer technologies after looking at some of the DLP and LCD TVs at my local retailers. After doing some research, and reading various posts and opinions, ruled out LCDs(and Plasmas were never in my budget) and finally narrowed it down to SAMSUNG HL-R5667W and SAMSUNG HL-R6167W. Honestly I dont know a lot of things that you guys discuss here, even the most basic ones. I have been researching for just about a week, but I do trust my instincts and believe I wont go wrong with either of these sets. I am not a very technical person, just want a big screen tv and a basic home theater set up in my new house. Now to the questions, 1)It says it comes with an integrated HDTV(NTSC/ATSC) tuner. Does that mean I will not have to buy a seperate HDTV tuner, and can receive HD channels from dishnetwork(after I subscribe to them) without any problems? 2) I will still need an antenna to receive the off air free HD channels? 3) What is calibration, and why does a new set need this? Does it have to be professionally done? 4) I read about "rainbow effect" here, but couldnt find any at the local store. Is that because of the newer technology? 5) Finally, I have decided to buy it from lcdtvs.com ($2225 + $263 for shipping for 5667 and $2525 + $313 shipping for 6167). Is it advisable to buy from an online store? Should I buy an extended warranty from them, and if yes what kind? 6) Will I need to buy anything else along with the tv, apart from the stand? I know all this information is in some of the threads in this website, but I'd truly appreciate it if any one can answer these questions. Thanks a bunch for your time! |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 45 Registered: May-05 | David: You will be able to hook up to an antenna and receive HD broadcasts available in your area. You will need the Dishnetwork HDTV receiver (additional cost) to receive satellite HD broadcasts. Calibration is the process of "fine tuning "all of the video parameters to a set broad cast standard. Most sets are not that close, even the old CRT models. You can do some very good adjusting using the THX tests on many DVDs, and you can do even better buying a calibration DVD like DVE or AVIA. You often will not see rainbow effect at stores since the ambient lighting is quite high. You will notice it most when watching bright moving objects on dark background. Rolling white credits on black background is a typical culprit. I will not tell you how to see them since once you learn, you will see them. Also most people do not see them. If you are really interested though google "rainbow effect DLP" and you can find out more. Buy the extended warranty!!!!! You may want a good surround sound system. |
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Unregistered guest | Klaus, thanks much for your response. "You will need the Dishnetwork HDTV receiver (additional cost) to receive satellite HD broadcasts." See this is where I get confused. Why would I need an HDTV receiver if the TV is equipped with integrated tuner? Then what is the difference between a 'HD capable' TV and a TV with 'built in HDTV tuner'? I have a DVR receiver from dishnetwork, which I am sure is not a HDTV receiver. lcdtvs.com has a 2 year and 4 year in home service warranty which kicks in after the completion of 1 YEAR manufacturer warranty. I'll probably get the 4 year warranty. I have had pre wiring done for 5 sorround sound speakers in my family room, and was planning to buy a BOSE life style system. Any suggestions? Thanks again. |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 47 Registered: May-05 | David: The way satellite works is that regular broadcasts are digitized and set to the satellite receiver which then decodes the broadcast to analog video which goes to the TV. The receiver for the satellite system outputs video, not channels that are tuned. Your HDTV built in tuner is for over the air broacasts only! Now what would be cool is if some satellite company came up with a cable card receiver that would work with the CC slot on the new TVs. But until then you will need an HD satellite receiver and dish for HD broadcasts via satellite. The Bose system is nice, very overpriced. Listen to some other systems as well, especially the new Onkyo. |
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Unregistered guest | Hmmm...just when you think you figured out everything... I didnt know that you need an external HD receiver even with a TV that has a built in tuner. Just checked the receivers on Dishnetwork's site and they are pretty expensive(at least for the existing customers). Can I buy any third party receivers outside and hook it up to my tv/satelite receiver....does it work that way?? Can an external receiver receive the off air free HD channels? If yes, why pay extra for an integrated tuner...why not go for just the HD capable TV without a built in tuner and use the cost difference to buy an external receiver...any thoughts? Sorry I know I am asking to many questions....and I truly appreciate your time answering them. |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 48 Registered: May-05 | David: The earlier sets mostly were HD ready and required an outboard tuner/sat receiver/cable box. This makes a lot of sense since it saves cost for the set manufacturer, possible obsolescence of the included tuner,most people have cable or sat box already. Most Sat receivers include off-air HD tuners. The inclusion of off-air HD tuners and included cable card slots was a US mandate to the manufacturers. Anything after July I think requires it, with possible exception of small sets. Do you have cable in your area. HD boxes are available for a small fee, and while some of the basic channels are worse than satellite, you do get some nifty on-deman video features that satellite doesn't offer. |
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New member Username: Helpful_smurfPost Number: 2 Registered: Jun-05 | Jim KW, That sounds like a gorgeous set up and pardon my flippance previously. That is obviously a lot more than your average piece of furniture, it sounds fantastic. I just found out today there is a 42 inch DLP from Samsung with the same feature set as the 67 series, It is model number is HL-R4266W. Best Buy does not carry it but it is available at Circuit City. Much as I hate to send anyone to the competition if it fills your need you do what you have to right? HS |
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VIPTaylor Unregistered guest | In regards to warranties: Some credit cards will match the manufacture's warranty. So, since Samsung offer's one year, one Visa card makes that a 2 year warranty. |
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New member Username: JlrPost Number: 3 Registered: May-05 | I have the 4667 and love it. The one problem I have is that the picture runs off the sides. I loose the logos of the tv stations (don't really care except I know that there are other things missing) and words and parts of the picture. I am using an HD cable box from Comcast. I don't know if I need to adjust the aspect ratio or do something else to fix the problem. Thanks for any help. |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 50 Registered: May-05 | Joel: The overscan that you mention could be because you have one of the TV or Cable box expand functions on(they both have variations of expand, zoom, etc)Make sure these are set to the proper mode, most likely 4:3. My HD stations when broadcasting in Standard def have narrow bars on each side, and the top and bottom are cut off. The analog versions of these stations do not. HD broadcasts are fine though. Chances are it is an anomalie of the way the channel broadcasts. |
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New member Username: JimkwColumbus, Ohio USA Post Number: 2 Registered: Jun-05 | Smurf, 42" would look tiny to me in widescreen after having a 40" non-widescreen. I don't even want the 46". Like I said if the 50" does not fit, the Entertainment Center will probably go back to the Amish for an adjustment because I can't get my chainsaw started. |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 52 Registered: May-05 | Jim: If you are headed for major surgery on that great unit, why not expand for 56". I have 46" and they do seem smaller after a while. Also have you checked out the JVC DILA sets? They are well received by their owners, but require wider openings due to side speakers. |
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New member Username: JimkwColumbus, Ohio USA Post Number: 3 Registered: Jun-05 | I really think 50 is a big as I need and I want bottom speakers so I get some height out of it. If I go much bigger than that I might have to modify the house too, not just the EC. I have not looked at the JVC, but I will before I buy. Car died last week so I'm going to have to hold off on TV for a while anyway. |
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New member Username: JlrPost Number: 4 Registered: May-05 | Does anyone know the program code for the Motorola HD cable box? I want to use the TV remote versus the cable remote but there is no Motorola boxes listed in the manual hl-r4667. Thanks |
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Unregistered guest | I just talked to the fxxking dishnetwork customer service. They are not letting me lease an HD receiver, and I'd have to purchase one instead. They know that I am still under contract with them and cant go anywhere. Damn, thats why I hate these contracts. I hate spending another $400 on a receiver even after buying a TV with built in receiver. Does anybody have any suggestions for me? |
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Anonymous | Say bye bye to Dish anyway. Pay the penalty. Direct TV is the better sat provider. Investigate their possibilities! HD programming free for first six months. Samsung SIR TS360 HD/Terrestrial HD receiver. $249 Combines off-air digital with DTV programming. http://www.ultimateelectronics.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=4462&i temType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=hd+receiver |
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New member Username: Still_thinkingPost Number: 1 Registered: Jun-05 | FYI or anyone I am debating as to whether to purchase a Samsung HLR5067W, via online or through a store. I saw you listed digital 1234 and their prices are great. I am also planning on getting the warranty, but was wondering if it was better to pay the extra and have a store to deal with in person. Any thoughts? |
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Bronze Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 25 Registered: May-05 | If you like paying for sales commissions and storefront overhead it will buy you the possible right to swap out a lemon in the first 30 days only. After that you will be dealing with 1-800-SAMSUNG no matter what. The extended warranty coverage won't have anything to do with any retailer as they all use underwriters. Don't forget that most credit cards will extend the manufacturers warranty an extra year. http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?sort_type=price&masterid=7752057& isbn=&pid= |
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Anonymous | Klaus,in your post June 2 you write that the hlpxx67 series has the new chip and faster color wheel. I am still confused on the difference between the hlr and hlp series..........Help |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 55 Registered: May-05 | I was referring to the difference in the HLPXX74 or HLPXX77 (basically the same set, but the 77s have built in HD tuner and cable card), versus the HLRXX67 set. The HLRXX67 has the newer chip design which has a grat contrast ratio (2500:1), faster switching,but it is a .55 inch chip so image must be magnified more than the HD2+ chip in the XX74/77 series which are .85 inch chips. I haven't seen the 67 series yet, but they would seem to be an excellent set for the money. I have the HLP4674 set and it is wonderful as well. If you could find a HLPXX74 set in the size you want and intend to use cable or satellite and not off the air then you could save some money and have agreat set. If you wish to game however, the XX67 is for you since the earlier models have sometimes got lag issues with gaming. |
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Anonymous | klaus thanx for the info. one more question...if i can get the hlpxx67 series for less money why should i get the hlrxx67 series? I am still slightly confused. |
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New member Username: Still_thinkingPost Number: 2 Registered: Jun-05 | FYI, Klaus, or anyone I was wondering if you knew anything about dvd recorders and does Samsung make one that will convert VCR tapes to DVD's, but at the same time provide good quality for progressive scan. I noticed most of the recorders state they only support 480p (Samsung DVD-R120). However, I noticed in your posts dealing with dvd players, that models such as the Samsung HD 841 or HD850 support 1080i, 720p, 480p. Is there a big difference to this and if I buy one that can record should I ensure it supports more? I will be using the DVD player with the Samsung HLR5067W. |
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Bronze Member Username: KlausHoliday, FL USA Post Number: 56 Registered: May-05 | Anonymous: The HLPXX67 sets have the earlier version of the DLP chip, without the faster switching and only have 1500:1 contrast. Still T: 480p output via component cables works fine. I don't have upconversion DVD player, but the Samsung scaler works well in this case. Save the money as sometime soon you will probably be upgrading to an HD-dvd whenever those formats settle out. |
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Paul - Help Unregistered guest | I bought a HLR 5667 about 10 days ago and after playing around with all of the possible video/audio connections and figuring out with Directv over the telephone (3 hours) how to receive Local HD stations, I am finally looking forward to sitting down, relaxing and watching the set for an extended period tonight. A few issues I have noticed - wondering if anyone elso has seen the same. On many local over the air HD channels, the picture often freezes or I see bits and pieces in squares/triangles. Sometimes it happens alot, other times seldom. I've laso seen occassional freezes on directv HD channels. Don't know if this is the Samsung or broadcast problems. Also have had some issues with video/audio sync but that seems to have cleared up now that everyhting is going thru my SS receiver, although I occassionally notice it on 1 or 2 Dirctv channels. |
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Bronze Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 32 Registered: May-05 | It's not the Samsung. It's definitely reception related. Your Direct TV receiver has a couple of items in the setup menu called "Installation" (sat dish) and "Antenna & Cable" (off-air) These meters will help you optimize your signal level from each source. I'm using an outdoor VHF/UHF antenna in my attic for my digital off-air reception. If I'm not pointed straight at the network towers I get the same thing you do. I have found that indoor amplified antennas don't cut it unless you live close to the towers or on high ground with no obstructions. The dish calibration is pretty critical for proper sat reception. Most of my transponders have signal above 85. It takes two people, of course, and cell phones come in pretty handy. |
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New member Username: Helpful_smurfPost Number: 3 Registered: Jun-05 | Got my HLR5067W today! WOW! What a picture! The wife and I sat and tweaked it as we watched Star Wars (a movie we've seen about a zillion times) this evening till we got the settings the way we liked them. Probably not the most scientific method but definitely the most satisfying. Definitely going to go for an upconvert DVD player, there are some artifacts viewing 480p on it on DVD. Mainly in background small details like grids in the Death Star sets. Foreground is all gorgeous. HD from cable is stunning and standard definition looks much better than I expected. Best of all my Playstation 2 games all look freaking awesome on it. I did have one scary moment when I first set it up and turned it on. It was all black screen with white lines running vertical across it. I shut it off for a few minutes and tried again. Same thing. I called customer support at Samsung and while on hold I tried again and picture came up immediately and has been fine ever since. I opted for all sound going straight through the set and out to the home theater receiver for ease of changing from source to source. I definitely need a Harmony remote now, too many remotes to keep straight! Happy Smurf |
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Bronze Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 34 Registered: May-05 | Cool! Congrats! I saw my first "R" 67 today at BB. It was a 46. Looked awesome! Very crisp and vivid compared to a 63 beside it. I want one! |
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New member Username: GutterPost Number: 1 Registered: Jun-05 | Just bought a HLR6167w. I replaced a 60" LG LCD which I liked a lot but they discontinued it and couldn't repair mine, so no replacement. With the LCD the viewing angle wasn't so critical but with DLP the quality decreases rapidly if you move as little as 10 degrees in any direction. I'm not so sure that's O.K. for other viewers so it may go back. Has anyone else noticed this? If so, are some DLPs better than others, or is this just the way it is? Other than that, here are my initial reactions. Good blacks and contrast. Great sound for a T.V. No rainbows or whiny motor sounds (but it's new) Bad sound delay, T.V. and surround, use only 1 at a time. Pixelization in muted colors. So far I give it a 6 or 7 but hope it grows on me to an 8 or 9. (I tend to be quite critical at first) If not, I'll wait for the 6168 |
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Bronze Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 36 Registered: May-05 | Hey Craig, That's the big "R" 67. Congrats! I'm gonna want to here more because that's the one I want. The up/down is always a more critical angle variation that the left/right. If you can balance the up/down by tilting, if possible, the left/right viewing increases dramatically. There will always be a center sweet spot as that is the way it's made, but the side to side viewing should be very acceptable out to 70 degrees. It really shouldn't pixelize with a component cable connection. I'm not sure if these settings will help, but you can try them. The Samsungs are generally hot on color. I discovered these settings using the THX set-up on the "Ladder 49" DVD. Color Tone = Normal Mode = Standard Contrast = 90-95 Brightness = 45-50 depending on room ambient light. Sharpness = 20-25 Color = 40-43 or to your taste. Tint = mine is greyed out because I'm using Pr, Pb, Y input. In Setup and Color Weakness my green is on 3. Give us a big ole review when you've had some time with it. I'm very interested! |
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CloakedHunter Unregistered guest | Well, I got my HL-R6167W yesterday. It's beautiful! I'm perfectly satisfied with the image quality. It looks very sharp in my opinion. Unfortunately, the only 720P content I have experimented with is a few Xbox games so far, but I hope to get some HD content from DirecTV soon. The vertical viewing angle is a pain at times, but that is understandable. Best of all, there is absolutely no lag/sync issues. I have tested it with both my Xbox and home theater system. It works just fine, with no lag at all. This was basically my only concern buying this TV, so I feel much better now. Anyway, excellent television, I love it! |
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Paul - Help Unregistered guest | last night I noticed some minor sound delays on my 5667 - was watching HBO HD through Directv - there was a slight sync issue using my SS; also when I used the TV speakers and ss together, sounded like I was hearing an echo in the Grand Canyon. so far, everything else - picture, color, angle, brigtness - are fantastic - can't wait for more high def channels thru Directv as thats the only reason to buy the tv. Any suggestions on the sync (I've also noticed it greater on some of the other directv channels) |
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New member Username: Helpful_smurfPost Number: 5 Registered: Jun-05 | Just an update, I went and picked up a Toshiba Upconvert DVD player and WOW, what a difference it made in the picture I got! No more artifacts, beatiful crystal clear image. Either my old DVD player was doing something wonky or DNIE was messing with the Progressive scan 480 image and causing the problem, possibly a combination of both. Feeding it straight 720P makes it look absolutely incredible. I didn't plan to watch Lord of the Rings: Return of the King today but once I started I can't stop looking at it! Amazing! I switched my HDMI input to the DVD player and component over to my cable box and both look great. Now if I could just find a Harmony 880 remote..... Even Happier Smurf |
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New member Username: GutterPost Number: 2 Registered: Jun-05 | FYI, Thanks for the response. Absolutely right about the vertical viewing angle being the critical one. My unit sits high. After deciding to go projection vs. plasma I rebuilt an area above a fireplace to house the unit in-wall to bring the screen flush with the wall (that was a bunch of fun). Anyway, I brought the rear of the 6167 up 3/4 of an inch and at 18 feet seating distance, it made a world of difference. Of course, it is not flush anymore but it looks fine. I popped in Shrek (The menu screen wih the characters moving gives me a great reference for clarity) and it looked soooooo good I ended up watching the whole movie. My opinion of this set is certainly creeping up. I was worried about the DMD being .55 inch vs. the 2+ chips larger, more expensive size. Newer generation sets being made cheaper doesn't excite me but, after a little tweaking on adjustments, angle etc. , I saw a knockout performance today. It squashed my LG LCD to smithereens. Then I went to work, so that's all I've got for now. Thanks again, hope this helps your decision. |
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Treehead Unregistered guest | Ok everyone, I am the one that wrote above that "Samsung Rock" because they replaced my HLP5063 with a HLR5067 for free. Well I have received it and just wanted to throw my two cents into the forum. First let me start out by saying that I am prett picky about my electronics. If I had it my way all tv signals would be HD. Ok now when I compare the 5063 to the 5067 I have to be honest and say I do not see any difference in picture quality for HD and Digital channels. When it comes to analog, I have decided to connect the cable directly to the back of the tv, because my cable box (motorola) is horrible at transferring a clean anolog signal to the tv. Now even though it is a direct feed, I am not impressed at all on the picture quality of the analog channels. I know they are not digital and HD, but they really are horrible. Is this the tv fault? A little. I can say a little, beacuase I have other televisions in the house in which the picture is a little better. I cant wait until the cable companies stop transmitting in analog! My dvd palyer looks great, but did with the 5063 as well. I do not have any sound problem (echo) but I have turned the sound off and run it through my Harman Kardon receiver. So again, I like the tv, Samsung is a great company for swapping me out of a 10 month old 5063 with a 5067, but I do not see much of a difference in the two models. Oh by the way, the mysterious shodows that showed up on my 5063 are gone with the 5067. Procupine Tree Rocks |
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Anonymous | CABLE SUCKS!!! Always has...always will. CABLECARD is GARBAGE! It's not what you want for HD or digital off-air. It's never what you want for existing standard definition. Digital cable isn't really all digital! Cable is never a uniform consistant quality signal to everyone. You bought a high quality set...now give it the best signal. Do yourself a favor and make the break! Direct TV is not an alternative, it's the quality reception solution! You can get a reduced priced HD receiver from them or go with a DTV HD/Terrestrial Digital (off-air) integrated receiver. It combines the inputs into one guide with a single output. Even if you don't get the DTV HD program package you can't beat true 100% digital NTSC standard definition combined with free off-air digital and primetime HD! All you need is an old style VHF/UHF antenna. Don't compromise features by losing your guide and pay-per-view! Don't compromise picture quality with a distorted cable signal or by splitting an already weak distorted signal and having to hassle with switching back and forth between inputs! Sat signal is 100% digital and has uniform quality for everyone. Use only component RGB video cables. Don't settle for any receiver that doesn't have the component Pr, Pb, Y output. Use the digital coax or digital optical output straight to your surround sound receiver. Make your HD Home Theater the best it can be. It won't cost more per month and you won't have any regrets! |
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Anonymous | anony-mouse, You a Direct TV salesman? |