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Anonymous | that't the one I will get. WOW! |
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Anonymous | read this: http://www.cybertheater.com/panasonic/panasonic_th_42pwd8uk/ "boosts peak brightness by more than 20% (from prior models) and increases the resistance to static-image burn-in to the same level as CRT displays." ??? |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | First image and complete specifications here: Very impressive, yet it does not make any mention of any burn-in prevention modes. hmm, deep Black colored bezel... i hope is glossy Black. |
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which one? Unregistered guest | maybe we can start a company to produce colored bezels.... like the cell phones... |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Anything out the ordinary Matte Black, all-Silver and depressing Gray is welcome. Multi colored choice bezels and cases {for CRTs} are very popular in Japan., most manufacturers produce them in limited numbers with unrealistic price tags hoping {knowing} consumer will buy them. Can't wait until Novemeber to see the PHD8UY series. |
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which one? Unregistered guest | you are right about the burn-in prevention modes. Why don't they mention it - this is a big selling feature. I really don't want to spend nearly 2k on a plasma and get a burn in. I am still confused as of what to buy - I am all over the place from LCD to plasma to new slim CTRs.. I am still thinking of the industrial panasonic plasma or the slim CRT. I still have 4 weeks until I move to my new house and by then I have to make a decision. I want to get a good quality TV, but I don't want to spend more than 3K. It seems that you know TVs - what would you do im my case? thanks |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | I'm in the same boat as you, looking everywhere for thouse nearly perfect sets that won't brake the bank., i want my next sets to be trouble-free, pleseant and satisfactory purchases. During the past 4-months i have had a total of 6-Plasmas and 2-LCDs and all of them either had a defect or a limitation. If i was you i'll wait for further details on these commercial Panasonic. Have you ever considered any other brands? |
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which one? Unregistered guest | Yes - Sharp LCD, Sony XBR CRT, the new LG slim CRT... even projection for a short time, but everyone is saying the panasonic is the best plasma and it is the best deal out there - less than 2K. Now I am considering the new slim CRT - every day I have a different solution... |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | "Everyone is saying Panasonic is the best plasma" I'm one of the few owners {excuse me, ex-owner} that are refusing anything Panasonic. until i personally see and test these new commercial series, i won't buy OR recommend them to anyone that hasn't committed to a Panny headache. Sharp LCDs are terrific, but very expensive, so much that i have serious doubts about what consumers are really paying for, if it's the top notch quality or the "I have an Aquos" hype factor. The Sonys have their own story of quality issues, non-existent aftersale service, and unavailability of essential parts during the warranty period. And all of this has been documented by many consumer complaints and a public confession by top executives in Japan. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | If you are considering the slim CRT TVs why don't you get the Samsung TX-R3079? |
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which one? Unregistered guest | I am hesitated to buy the Samsung TX-R3079, because I red several review talking about a distortion in the edges caused by the angle of the catode gun (it makes sence). That's why I am waiting on the slim LG model (the other slim tv post is also from me) - it should be better than the Samsung (I hope). The other problem is the 30" display - I will have aprox 9-10 feet distance from the TV and 30" is not enough. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | What do you think of a 50" plasma with a 6G Panasonic panel for around $2,700. plus tax and freight? |
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Bronze Member Username: BruzziPost Number: 11 Registered: Nov-04 | <<<you>>> They don't mention it but all The Panasonic Commercial Displays have screen Savers. <<<>>> Digital Factory makes snap-on bezels for most Plasma Displays in any color of your choice. Not sure if they make for the Consumer Models as well. |
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Bronze Member Username: BruzziPost Number: 12 Registered: Nov-04 | One more try... ==================================================== maybe we can start a company to produce colored bezels.... like the cell phones... ==================================================== Digital Factory makes snap-on bezels for most Plasma Displays in any color of your choice. Not sure if they make for the Consumer Models as well. ==================================================== you are right about the burn-in prevention modes. Why don't they mention it... ==================================================== They don't mention it but all The Panasonic Commercial Displays have screen Savers. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Written specifications and features is what really count when purchasing such items. If is not written by the manufacturer then the feature does not exist., period. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | P.S., This is like that T-mobile commercial with the "Um-limited" minutes... The customer ask the cellular salesman if his new plan have UNlimited minutes {as in having them}, but the salesman replies "Yea.., Um-limited" {as in NOT having them, but want to deceive the customer into thinking he does have them}. Gotta love the many misleading ways Panny fans use to convince anyone that Panasonic is everything they want and more in a plasma TV and anything other than a Panasonic is worthless. Panasonic has only one good thing, and that is the accurate colors and the true Blacks, which are very close to what a CRT set would deliver., nothing more. |
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Bronze Member Username: BruzziPost Number: 14 Registered: Nov-04 | . ==================================================== Written specifications and features is what really count when purchasing such items. ==================================================== Totally agree with you. ==================================================== If is not written by the manufacturer then the feature does not exist., period. ==================================================== It's actually written by Panasonic... - Check out the Brochure for the "7UY" Commercial Displays: Read top right of page 5 - "Enhanced Screen Saver Functions" ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/Drivers/PBTS/brochures/B_TH-7Series.pdf - Manual for the "7UY" Commercial Displays: SCREENSAVER (For preventing after-images) page 28. http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TH37PWD7UY.PDF --------- Panasonic didn't release the Brochure for the "8UK" Commercial Models yet but you can read the Manual: SCREENSAVER (For preventing after-images) page 29. http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TH37PWD8UKJ.PDF . |
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Bronze Member Username: BruzziPost Number: 15 Registered: Nov-04 | . ... And gotta love the way Panny haters try to convince anyone that Panasonic is worthless. . |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | "And i love the way Panny haters try to convince anyone Panasonic is worthless." -That's because they ARE worthless., Abysmal quality, lack of features, Terrible CSR. The facts are as clear as spring water. And besides, this is a UNBIASED forum, not Or When OPs ask what would be a better buy, "XYZ" brand of the famous Panasonic, even when "XYZ" is MUCH better the members from thouse two forums will always recommend Panasonic. That won't happen here. |
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Anonymous | When someone says they have had 6 plasmas and 2 LCDs all with prooblems or limitations it makes you wonder. The chances of 8 different tvs all with problems is very slim. Panasonic is well respected in plasma televisions. I will say in response to a different post of yours that all manufacturers have an amount of pixels that can be out and still be acceptable to them. Panasonic is supposed to have the best policy for the consumer in that regard. Different articles I have read pretty much state that burn should really be a non factor with a plasma. I don!t own a panasonic plasma although I am considering one. I see in spite of all your problems you are still considering a Panasonic which under the circumstances seems odd. |
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which one? Unregistered guest | I will have to agree with Perrey - if they have those feature why don't they advice them? I also agree (based on what I red) that the Panasonic industrial plasma are good - I do not have one, but I am planing on purchasing one. I think even Perrey will agree to that. But then again, you have to break-in the plasma and be carefull for network logos etc... this is too much for me - I just want to watch without having to think about all this stuff. Another personal reason for me probably pick plasma is the screen - the LCD screen is much easier to break, and with 2 kids that could be the deciding factor for me. The other option I am cosnidering is the good old CRT - now they are comming with flat/slimm models that are not bad at all... |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Anonymous Post your real name don't be a coward, if you're going to attack me or question my post. "Panasonic is well respected in Plasma televisions" Yeah right! Thanks to a bunch of idiots from two fully-dedicated Panasonic forums who praise the brand like a god. You don't even own a Panasonic so shouldn't be even talking, do us a favor and shut the hell up. What the hell do you know if the chances are slim or not, you are not me or were WITH ME when i pay and got these home, so go f*ck yourself at the AVS Forum or High Def Forums along with the regular Panny losers there. I don't have to explain myself to anyone, specially an anonymous poster who ask the most stupid questions {that's you}, but since i like to educate, then read and learn; 6-Plasmas prior to the all perfect Philips. 1st: Vizio P42HD. Problem: PQ, washed out picure, odd sound. 2nd: Replacement Vizio P42HD. Problem: Not working at all, only the fan was functioning. 3rd: Hewlett-Packard PL4245N. Problem: Dim picture, washed out picture and no sound on RF Coaxial, no closed caption on any other input. 4th: Replacement Hewlett-Packard PL4245N. Problem: same as original unit, except this one had sound. Picture started to die slowly {dimmer every day}. 5th: Sony KDE-42XBR950. Problem: Image will sometimes broke in 2-parts, a green line was sometimes visible across the screen. 6th: Replacement Sony KDE-42XS955. Problem: Slow start, lasted 3-days. 7th: Philips 42PF9966/37 has been excellent, no problems at all. Very well recommended. 2-LCDs; 1st: Maxent Problem: After 8-hours the set when bonkers with uncontrolable seizures. 2nd: Panasonic TC-22LH30 Problem: The "mighty" Panasonic had one stuck pixel not acceptable to my standards. I've already mention this to YOU when you question how could i have had a stuck pixel in a Panasonic. And not Panasonic has a NO single Pixel policy, F*cking unbeliable!, you don't even own sh*t and look at you, pretending to know more than me. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | P.S.; Looks like one Panny lover brings another and that one will bring another... This forum is a totally new territory Panny fan boys haven't infested with their misleading information. Take a few minutes and read the MANY advises i've provide other users on this forum. I said it earlier on a reply to another Panasonic fan, this WILL NOT be a biased forum! If you don't want to learn fine with me, go ahead an spent your damn money on a Panasonic then discover the unpleseant "joy" of owning one, is your money not mine! Anyone wasting their time babysitting a plasma for burn-in most really get a life. Do you babysit your car from been sh*t by a bird? or wet by rain?, no right., then why should anyone will have to satisfy with a $2,000 + TV that does not offer screen saver features., because it's Panasonic?, jeez, get real! |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Yes, Which one?, the Pro series seems to be the best plasma Panasonic has to offer. I said it before, and James {JMR} is with me on this one, get the commercial unit instead of a Viera consumer unit . they are cheap and have everything you'll need, nothing fancy, nothing extra. But like i mentioned above, wait until further details are released by Panasonic. |
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Anonymous | Any plasma has the possibility of a burn in. If you can!t live with it buy something else. Yeah Philips, now there is a real great product. So anyone that has anything to say that is not anti Panasonic is biased but the Panasonic basher is not. You even mentioned known problems with other brands. There is going to be problems with some of whatever product anyone buys. You make some statements that are against others opinions but the others are the ones that are all wrong. Whenever anyone questions anything you say you start swearing. Then you complain about others being biased. It speaks for itself. If you don!t like what others say you should not read the forum. |
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Bronze Member Username: BruzziPost Number: 16 Registered: Nov-04 | . Then why recommend a Commercial Model from the same "worthless" Brand ??? And What about the Panasonic TH-37PX50U that had problems with burn-in. Shouldn't this model be listed as well ? Any other issues? . |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Anonymous, please shut the hell up! in case you haven't notice i was here before you and the other lovers hijacked this forum. Your replies are not questions, but doubts about my experiences. When you don't even onw a Plasma, you are the least that should be talking. That's call jealousy. Oh!, now i'm a hater AND a basher, just because i'm pointing out the lack of quality with Panasonic's consumer line up?, gimme a break! What about the other forums, they seem to think Panasonic is so great and the other brands crappy. No one can say anything bad about Panasonic because the "experts" will attack the poor brave poster who dares to write such "lies" on their forums. NOT here! I'm not biased, i have no preference for ANY brand in particular, and even if i had one that's not your damn business, i will point out ANY flaws with ANY brand, including the almost perfect Philips. If you take the time to read {if your can do that} search this forum and check ALL the messages for my replies, never had favor any brand, but when Panasonic is the leader in developing inferior products, i will point that out., Even if you or any other fanboy doesn't like it, PERIOD! I'm not giving advise and honest answers to YOU or Glauco Bruzzi, i'm giving them to the anyones who ask. AND YES, PHILIPS IS A GREAT PRODUCT! EVEN IF YOU AND THE OTHER FANBOYS HATE TO ADMIT IT! |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Glauco, First of all, I will reffer to you by your name even if you don't refer to me by my name but as "<<<<you>>>>" i do respect other people regardless of the difference in opinions. The worthless brand, has a CSR that cannot be trusted for pre-sale Qs&As., They will said anything to make anyone buy their product., BUT the reality of things is the lack of features NOT mentioned on the product's manuals either physical, or on a .pdf file. Once you purchase their {Panasonic} product, you've discovered the hard cool truth. missing features, limited features., you don't get what you paid for. Panasonic has had a documented rcord of quality controls baryin form power supply failures onthe TH-42PA20U and some 7UY series., to buzzing, static and so-called gren neon hues on the PX50U series. Thouse problems cannot be missed, they are there. When anyone comes to this forum asking why their TH-42PD50U set is buzzing the answer is not your answer of; "every plasma buzz at certain level/distance" and you know that's right. The correct way to address the OPs problems is what i wrote, i had one and has been buzzing and has static coming out of the 2nd left speakers, i wasn't going to lie and said "Oh, that's normal, keep it", that would have been the replies from the members of the If the OP would have had said the buzzing problem with any other brand you wouldn't have written the problem was "normal and aceptable", you would had advise him/her to get another brand., that other brand would had been Panasonic. I've read the biased forums, so i know what i'm talking about. According to you, my so-called "recommendation" for the commercial series is based on the opinions from another poster who own 5 of them., if you read carefully you can understand i don't fully encorage or recommend the commercial series., i had said i will not recommend them until i see one in person. I have never defended the TH-37PX50U 100%, please try to keep up with the many discussions from a few days ago regardidng my experiences with this particular model instead of taking a crusade to attack me. "Any other issues?" Nothing that hasn't been said but here i go, No burn-in prevention modes, lack of quality, terrible customer service {25-minutes waiting on the phone is outrageous}, buzzing {nothing to do with fan noise}, static from one of the left speakers and difficult to operate remote control., all of these are "normal according to the worthless brand and should not be considered to be defects even when they really are. Now, the commercial series is a whole different story, but not isolated from possible failures and lack of features because is manufacture by Panasonic. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | This will be my last post addressing this issue with the coward who doesn't even own a plasma or an LCD and **think** he knows more than me; Wow! my comments are so "biased" that i'm actually praising the good colors and Blacks of the Panasonic TH-37PX50U almost like a CRT type. You and the other lovers most really hate the UNBIASED video magazines such as Sound & Vision when they review and write the negatives from the tested Panasonic plasmas or any other Panasonic TV. |
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Plasmainquiry Unregistered guest | Perrey Z. How many and what Panasonic plasma models have you owned? What problem did you have with each? |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | First i had an LCD the TC-22LH30 the problem was a stuck pixel near the middle of the screen and had uneven light transmision from the backlight on the left side and bottom of the screen. According to many Panasonic owners the company had an excellent policy regarding this type of problem and the quality was top-notch., nothing of that, when i contact their technical support department, the CSR told me no such thing existed and that they don't consider one pixel a defect, but rather 8-pixels and the uneven light transmision was "normal". The second Panasonic was the TH-37PX50U, as i mentioned above i called Panasonic to get a few question answered, typical pre-sale questions., they told me things that weren't true. Their CSR said the TH-37PX50U had burn-in prevention modes which is not true., a green neon hue has been reported by several owners, i asked about that and i was told no such thing exist., buzzing and static coming from the speakers is a problem but Panasonic says all of that was "normal". There's a lot of misleading information from Panasonic, written and verbal. They'll lie and mislead the consumer into thinking certain features are available with their sets. They'll said anything that will get consumers to purchase their products. What angers me the most is the way this brand and it's plasmas are over-praise in other forums and according to their members nothing comes close to a Panasonic and that's not true, i've seen other brands like Samsung, LG and Hitachi that offer better features, similar picture quality and noise-free units. But according to these individuals, all of thouse brands are crap, "Panasonic is the best". So things like loud buzzing., static., no burn-in prevention modes., stuck/dead pixels., uneven light transmision., and incompatible {brands} sources connected to the HDMI input should be considered "normal" and acceptable, just because it's Panasonic? I don't think so, the consumers are paying their top earned dollars for thse things, they deserves a reliable trouble-free product., if all of these things are "normal" then the quality is questionable, no doubts about that. One of the many dissapointing features these new sets have is when you scan for digital channels the PD50U and PX50U series will lock the aspect ratio to 4:3 leaving black bars on the sides, you cannot stretch the picture to fill the entire screen and as i mentioned before, there is not burn-in prevention modes. Nothing that's said or written on the other forums regarding these Panasonic TVs and any of the other brands is true., I can't comment on the features and quality of the professional series because i don't own one, but by reading the specification sheets, a Computer Shopper and a C-NET reviews, they appear to be much better than the consumer versions. Take a look at some of my many posting regarding the problems with both of my Panasonics. |
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which one? Unregistered guest | I think I will have to exclude the plasma as a solution for me because of the close caption burn-in problem - I use cc a lot - english is not my mother language (as you can probably tell), so I am left with LCD and good old CRT. I am excluding also projection TV because of the bulp replacement issue. I think I am 50% done with my selection process. |
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Anonymous | If you want talk about problems you have had that is fine but to say that nothing said or written on any other forums regarding Panasonic tvs and every other brand is true is ridiculous. You are basically saying that everyone is a liar except you. No manufacturer considers one pixel a defect and that is a fact. That is something to consider when buying a tv because it can happen on Plasma, DLP or LCD Projection. I have seen this in stores. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | I don't care what you think. If you have doubts believing what i write just because the problems had been with Panasonic units then go f*ck yourself your opinion mean nothing to me. You cannot accept Panasonic is lacking in quality, tell me, how much royaty checks Panasonic has sent you to praise and defend their worthless brand and it's crappy products since you became a troll on these forums? What the hell? now you're changing your position with the whole story of how great Panasonic's pixel policy is? according to your previous post they have an "excellent" policy and that it's impoossible for me to had a stuck pixel on one of their LCDs. This is amuzing, you don't know me and you haven't seen my defective units and you already are calling me a liar just because i'm pointing out he flaws of a company and iit's products, what are you, a 6-year old playing around with your daddy's notebook? You clearly have a problem with me. All of your post demostrate how jealous you are of my expertise. So this will be my last reply to your inmature post., you can post all you want, i won't be replying to it. let me "praise Mr. Anonymous who **thinks** he has all the bases cover with his "knowledge" of how wonderful and good Panasonic is, even when Mr. Anonymous doesn't even own plasma, muchless a Panasonic. And i have already told you, i won't be discussing anything with you., i dont provide advise too you or any of your buddies., i provide HELPFUL advise to the posters who need it. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | And last but not least... GO F*CK YOUSELF, YOU F*CKING TROLL! |
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which one? Unregistered guest | yahaaaaaa! |
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Bronze Member Username: KlaussnerPost Number: 15 Registered: Jul-05 | You are a totally idiot, I did not change my position. No company will warranty one pixel out. apparently in your mind they should, I am sure that is why the company refused to deal with you because you are unreasonable. I never said I had all the bases covered once again you can!t get it right. The problem I have with you is that you say things like the posts on every other forum are untrue about Panasonics and every other tv. You say that the stores all set up Panasonics to look better than other brands, you go so far past reality that anyone should comment on your ridiculous statements. That is why you are against the other forums because the people there are smart enough to realize how ridiculous your statements are. I am not a troll, once again your inability to comprehend anything but what your frustration will let you sprout off about. Anyone with any brains can see how you start swearing and show your true colors. When you make ridiculous statements you should expect someone to call you on them. I am not defending Panasonic or anyone else. Your BS is what I have aproblem with. Make some reasonable statements and I won!t have a problem with it. I never said it was impossible for a stuck pixel on a Panasonic go read the post again and see how you are wrong about that too. |
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JCTV Unregistered guest | I have to agree with Perrey about the Panasonic biased forums .. it's very difficult to get a true review of any plasma panel made by Panasonic. First you read how great they are, then in the next thread you read users complaints about buzzing, shut downs, lack of features blah blah blah. I personally gave up reading the damn forums when I looked for a new plasma. Nothing against Panasonic or any other brand, but the info out there is very confusing. I trusted my own eye sight and went with a Zenith (Z42PX2D). Compared to the Panny, there wasn't much difference in PQ, was less money, satisfied my EDTV requirements, and personally I think they are aesthetically more pleasing than the Panny (compared to the PD50). That's my opinion because it is going on my wall. I'm not getting it to impress the chicks or for any kind of status. Again, in no way am I bashing Panasonic .. it's just the misinformation overload. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Your the famous assh*le named Eugene who ask the most ridiculous questions on the direct view tube TV forums?!!! No wonder you have so many problems with the guys over there! you are a class A assh*le! don't know sh*t and oh boy! you know everything., What's next G*d is wrong in making rain wet, snow cold and th sun hot??? I'm humble you found the courage to post your real name, "Eugene"... Still, nothing will change you can't read and you will always be a MOTHERF*CKER! Have a nice weekend, i should i will! |
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Anonymous | Philips, huh? ----- 1 out of 5 stars TV will not start .. + Bad Customer Service , July 27, 2005 Reviewer: R. Prakash - See all my reviews I just bought this TV 5 weeks ago. I heard a noise and now TV won't power on (though I have a monster power surge protector). Called Philps as any one else would do. According to them, it can take upto 20 days for them to get one part, so I should wait before calling them again. I tried after a week, same response. I have been given a ref number.. thats it. In which world do we live in? 20 days for a service rep to come with a part? And they don't even know if the part ordered was a right part.. what if is doesn't work? I highly recommend that you think twice before buying a Philips TV. I did a mistake and would warn you. Was this review helpful to you? YesNo (Report this) 2 of 4 people found the following review helpful: 1 out of 5 stars Poor customer service, also no remote control, June 28, 2005 Reviewer: dolphin (USA) - See all my reviews I just received this tv and I also found no remote control in the box. Called Philips Customer Service and found them to be totally unhelpful. This TV has a good picture but for $3000 pricetag, a remote would be a nice thing to have. As of now, Philips Customer Service is unsure when I will get a remote and wouldn't even consider sending me a cheap $10 one to at least change the channels. ---------------- |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | ...What? no link to proof this is accurate rampling? Anonymous AND a Panny fanboy., Gotta love 'em. BTW everything is false, false and hmm... you guess it, FALSE! |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Oh, the fanboys... I meant: "Where's the link to read the actual inaccurate rambling." |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | This one didn't even bother to create an elaborate {fake} review thread. No model number mention, No users name, no ACTUAL LINK., nothing! Just same old Philips is blah, blah, blah. |
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Anonymous | Hey, Perrey, Mr. know it all " I'm frustrated 'cause I've got a small pen*is ": FU*K YOU ! Now, go sit on your mama's lap and cry a little bit. |
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Unregistered guest | I was excited about the purchase I was preparing to make - right until I accross this @sshat. Hey 'Perry Z' - you know you need a hobby when you are responding to your own nonsensical, dumb-azzed posts. Here's to hoping you find one, ya' f@g ... |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | What a inmature idiot you are, . Are you 5-years old? do you need your mommy to change your diaper? Jelousy can lead some assh*les like you to write their hating thoughts... Responding to my own post? what are you the Panasonic-loving psychic moderator now?!, i guess your not, by your post i can tell you barely finished middle school., Go right ahead and ask him to make visible AGAIN the ISP location numbers for each posters and you'll see how much "fun" i'm having reply to my so-called self. Having said that, you are now free to go f*ck yourself. and tell Eugene or any other Panny fanboy, to give you a good blowjob before heading out to get your Panasonic., You're cranky. And at the same time you tell your friends at pannyland AKA Words gets words, period! You or any other fanboy comes here and attacks me, you can count on it, i will reply the same way your post is interpreted. I won't be silent by you, Eugene or ANYONE else don't want to hear how crappy Panasonic really is? fine with me, don't listen, i'm not pointing a gun to your temple and forcing you to read my informative posts. So do me a favor and get the hell out of here., i'm not writting to entertain you or anyone elses, i'm writting to IMFORM everyone else. And BTW assh*le, it's Perrey Z., P-E-R-R-E-Y Z., NOT PERRY Z, you idiot! can even type correctly muchless communicate in a polite manner. Typical Panny fanboy behavior When some one speaks the truth about the many flaws with their favorite crappy brand. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Yep you are defenitely a f*g. Any person, in this case a man, {that's you} with the mentality you have that writes a hate message to another person who he doesn't even know and calls him a f*g or any other name for the simple reason he doesn't like what he's reading it's clearly portraiting THEIR lifestyle behavior., It's call physchology, something i know VERY well. In case you haven't notice, And you haven't. This is what i live for, debating with mindless individuals like yourself. Just because you didn't read what you wanted to know about Panasonic your spreading out your hate?!. How "inteligent" you are... |
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Bronze Member Username: CaseyPost Number: 16 Registered: Jul-05 | You know the wonderful thing about life is that we are all allowed to think idependently. And as such its pretty easy for people, especially new people to a forum to see the bias thats there. At first you think hey maybe its right, but after a short period of time you realize that its just to pointed. In the long run that bias "hurts" the forum because people are not stupid and can see thru it quickly. So its a matter of diminishing returns. I prefer the open exchange of ideas as well the possiblity of a myriad of selections.I think Perrey Z is right on!! I read these and other forums to LEARN, but I must say this forum is refreshing and many users not just I can openly discuss things that would go unanswered elsewhere. Why you ask? Because I dont own "that" brand name. Personally I could care less what kind of panel you own. Guess what its only a TV!The important thing is that you the purchaser and owner are happy with it. Thats the role of forums and forum members to help, educate and support. Whats good for you isnt good for someone else, and there choice is no better or worse than the one you made no matter how much you paid for it. Hey I like it here! And appreciate Perrey z sharing his knowledge and opinions. |
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which one? Unregistered guest | go Perrey Z! FU CK the Anonymous Where is my sony KDL-V40XBR1? |
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Bronze Member Username: PartyatmariosPost Number: 24 Registered: Jun-05 | Perrey Z. As you well know, I am fairly new to this forum, infact any forum. I totally respect your advise and experience, me with the one thousand Vizio questions. I just wanted to say WOW!!! Nice Cannon fire. The forums are for learning, sharing and helping our fellow man out. I believe you even helped Anonymous (silly rabbit tricks are for kids)vent out some anger and perhaps even hate. Hope to hear from you soon. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Thanks for your comments guys! Please accept my apologies for the comments above. My patience is running thin with these people. These individuals come here they never post anything helpful, yet they do find the time and energy to post attacks against me just because they don't like what they read. I said it before and i'll said it again, this will be not be a biased forum., I will not hide or mislead anyone with any brand, I don't play favorites., you can read my many comments, i have notice the good and bad things with most brands. I will not mislead or trick anyone to buy certain brand or hide the flaws of a namebrand and it's products, just to satisfy a group of people, that will be unethical on my part. If i have the solution to your problem, i will help you regardless of who you are and what brand of flat panel you currently own, simple as that. As i mentioned before, i had some of these TVs and some others i had have the opportunity to experience with them for a couple of days so i know the deal with most brands., oon top of that, i have insider industry documents, troubleshooting guides the real "Who makes your plasma?" list and actual manufacturing keynotes. I'm not pretending to be Mr. Know-it-all, if i have the data, i will provide it even if some people won't agree with what i write. I just wanna know what is the real deal with these Panasonic defenders? do they get royalty checks in the mail for defending something they don't own? Will they get an extra "0" in thouse royalty checks for calling out names and acting like creeps? I guess i'll never know. I had the Panasonic LCD and Plasma experience, the colors and true Blacks on the plasma were gorgeous i have said it many times., the slim profile was very attractive but the limited features, static and the buzzing sour the enjoyment. On the LCD the stuck pixel, uneven light trasmission, odd light stains, limited closed caption feature and the missing inputs were total turn-offs. But what upsets me even more is the lack of attention and the misleading information Panasonic provides the end consumers BEFORE their purchases., Only after you have commited is that you discovered how dissapointing the brand and it's products really are. That's what these people don't understand, they are clearly not reading the whole posts!. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Which One?, I will enquire about this 40" Sony and will post what i find. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Mario, I will be going to Costco later today {Sunday} it's been very busy around here that's why i couldn't go this week. Hopefully they'll have it set up. I'm looking forward to see this unit in action the specifications are incredible. I'll post back all the details! |
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Anonymous | > it's been very busy around here that's why i couldn't go this week. Yeah.. Too much homework hey? You'll see, when you finish high school, you'll have a life of your own. In the mean time, go FU*K yourself and your 3 friends. |
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which one? Unregistered guest | anon: if I could I would fu*k myself, trust me - I am sure this is your dream too... |
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which one? Unregistered guest | Perrey, thanks for the enquire - maybe our friend(s) can try to help me too - what say you anonymous? Can you help me with the sony KDL-V40XBR1? I want to know everything about this unit. I am sure you know all about it... I am waiting. You can proof yourself now... show us that you are the MAN! |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Anonymous from August 14th. 2004. 8:03am: Well, if i was busy with homework and going to high school then that makes me a pretty responsable and smart kid, which is more than i can say for you. A word of advise to you: THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE you sound desperate fro some attention... scracth that, you ARE desperate for attention! How interesting your life must NOT be... you're actually taking the time from a beautiful Sunday morning to post pointless garbage. Now go get laid, you'll love it! You're a coward idiot plus on top of that you are pretending to be a washed out comedian., great reading {for me} for a sunday evening! still nothing beat the line up at FOX. Nice try troll... |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | ....And feel free to post all the hate you want., i won't be taking anymore time on you or your buddies. So from now on you're own your own, troll. Which one?, Don't bother with these trolls., they aren't worth our time. |
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Perrey Z. Unregistered guest | Which One?, I'm going to send a facsimile to Sony requesting further information. It appears they're delaying the release with a purpose for either technical reasons or second thoughts about the whole idea of a 40" consumer LCD TV for such a low MSRP. |
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which one? Unregistered guest | yes, that's what I am afraid of - they may increase the price - it's still XBR, which cost and arm and a leg. I hope I will get lucky this time, otherwise I have to start all over again... and that's not fun. Let me know. Thanks |
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which one? Unregistered guest | but then again I do not think they will change the price - several web sites are already taking pre-orders for 3K and change. I also could not find a single press release for that model (KDL-V40XBR1). |
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New member Username: PlasmatvmanPost Number: 2 Registered: Aug-05 | the th42pwd8uk panasonic plasma tv was just released. Its a great EDTV, i got one of the first ones from http://www.plasmahouse.com/PANASONIC-TH-42PWD8UK-PLASMA-TV/TH42PWD8UK.HTML . I got mine for $1450.00 |
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New member Username: Plasma_cricketPost Number: 1 Registered: Sep-05 | Is TH-PWD8UK worth buying for $1500. Any updates on phosphor burn in? Is Panasonic overrated? |
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New member Username: TonisColfax, CA Post Number: 9 Registered: Jun-05 | I've noticed in a number of posts that people mention that the Panasonics lack features that many others don't. Would somebody be able to tell me which features they're talking about? What would you consider to be the most important features to have with a plasma? I'm one of the many on the fence about what to buy. Thanks. |
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Latiano Unregistered guest | I actually have the consumer level 42" edtv and this is a subjective opinion but the color reproduction looks pretty darn good to me. DVD's look phenominal, blacks are black and after about 5 minutes of meddling with the menus the colors look pretty darn good to. I am so impressed with the first one i just bought a second for my bedroom. I do wish they hadn't omitted the vga input and pip and cablecard on this model but for $1999 i don't care that much. Plus i have a media center pc hooked up to it so all of my tivo and pip and such are done through the computer. Overall i would say i have been very pleased with my purchase |
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Alex Kater Unregistered guest | I'm looking to buy a new plasma tv very soon. So far, I've read that Panasonic has great plasma tvs because of their deep black levels, picture quality, and price. If there is a bias for Panasonic, that concerns me. Two things are wrong with Perrey's posts. First off, he keeps going back on his word. Secondly he won't list specifics as to why Panasonic is bad. I want quantitative responses, not qualitative ones. It's understandable if Perrey is angry at a biased movement that favors one company, but back your statements up. So tell me Perrey, what's wrong with Panasonic hardware? I know you've had a dead pixel problem with one of your Panasonic displays, which sucks. I agree that one dead pixel is one too many (especially if its in the middle of the screen like yours), but think of Panasonics approach to the problem from a company standpoint. Don't tell me you hate their politics, or that you hate their fans. If you dislike Panasonic because of its lack of features, then tell me which features you dislike, or which features are missing. Keep in mind that your use of the TV could be completely different compared to another poster on this forum. A positive, helpful reply would be something like this "The Panasonic TH-50PHD7UY doesn't come with an HDMI input or any kind of PC input. DVD and TV lovers won't mind this, but if you plan to buy a Playstation 3, or use your computer with this display, then paying for an input slot will be worth your money". Then i read this: "Panasonic has had a documented rcord of quality controls baryin form power supply failures onthe TH-42PA20U and some 7UY series., to buzzing, static and so-called gren neon hues on the PX50U series. Thouse problems cannot be missed, they are there. " -Perrey First, where did you get these testimonials? Second, when you say "lack of quality", it's not saying much in this very technical and diverse world . Please clarify either with technical data and measurements or with some kind of comparison. On the subject of buzzing, what causes it? Does the buzzing come from the speakers or screen itself? I read it has something to do with altitude. Saying someone has a bias implies that the person will have made up his/her mind before tackling the issue. Bias can go both ways. You can have a bias towards Panasonic and against. Everyone will have a bias, but for different reasons. So state your opinion, provide facts, and specifics to reason with your statement, then leave it at that. I want help in choosing a good plasma tv. I may be new to tv's and tv lingo, but that doesn't mean i want a simple reply. I hate it when people try to simplify something scientific. Right now, this is what im considering as my best option: http://espn.com.com/Panasonic_TH_50PHD7UY/4505-6482_7-31154596.html?tag=tab Since this is a Panasonic i've already heard all the good things about it, can someone tell me some of the bad things? |