What's the best DLP out there?
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Anonymous | bones-H3, Have you read this thread? Especially, the last few posts? Pan....ic! https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/124835.html |
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wfive Unregistered guest | Panasonic 50" dlp has fantastic picture quality at SD and HD frequencies. Sound is equal to image. Still I couldn't take the fan noise any longer.... Drove me crazy...Toshiba 52" dlp didn't stay more than two hours. Terrible SD image, unwatchable. Now I am hunting for my third tv. Looking at Sony LCD 60". |
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1080P Sammy Owner Unregistered guest | Then you will be a three time loser. https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/137540.html If you have free off-air digital EDTV network channels along with some HD Discovery and HDNet you won't watch SD ever again. |
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Anonymous | Could someone please explain what the grey/white circular spot actually is (in layman's terms) in the centre of our new 62" DLP Toshiba 62HM85 TV? This is highly visible in a lighted room ,even when the set is not turned on, and still apparent when the room is completely darkened from glare. We have had the set replaced and the replacements also had the same problem. Is this condition a normal occurrence with DLP TVs or is this a defect in the production? We went back to the store and noted the same spot on the floor model. We are trying to determine whether we should return the unit or not. The spot does show through on the screen when something black is being viewed infront of that area (ie. a black shirt etc.). We purchased the TV from Best Buy and their staff cannot explain what is causing this. If anyone is familiar with this, we would very much appreciate an explanation. Much thanks |
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Anonymous | Could someone please explain what the grey/white circular spot actually is (in layman's terms) in the centre of our new 62" DLP Toshiba 62HM85 TV? This is highly visible in a lighted room ,even when the set is not turned on, and still apparent when the room is completely darkened from glare. We have had the set replaced and the replacements also had the same problem. Is this condition a normal occurrence with DLP TVs or is this a defect in the production? We went back to the store and noted the same spot on the floor model. We are trying to determine whether we should return the unit or not. The spot does show through on the screen when something black is being viewed infront of that area (ie. a black shirt etc.). We purchased the TV from Best Buy and their staff cannot explain what is causing this. If anyone is familiar with this, we would very much appreciate an explanation. Much thanks |
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New member Username: Willng24Post Number: 2 Registered: Aug-05 | Samsung HL-R5087W. This has the XHD3 chip with 1080p. Haven't seen one better than this. |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 221 Registered: May-05 | The HL-R5688 is the only pedestal model that has the 1080P chip. The HL-R5087 is a 720P display. |
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New member Username: Willng24Post Number: 3 Registered: Aug-05 | Hey FYI, Thanks for the update. I actually meant the HL-R 5078W. Yeah, I'm all confused, but I'm glad someone is keeping me in check. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 113 Registered: Jul-05 | NO such thing as a good DLP... |
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No Credibility, bong Unregistered guest | It's a wonder this ignorant fool can post at all. If you need a replacement set, buy what you like. DLP's are very nice! |
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Unregistered guest | from what ive sen is that most ppl that use this site dont do much looking around. THE reference for all tv's is a dlp brand called Runco, they start around 15k and go up over 100k. plasmas and lcd's are promising display types, but we must wait for them to develop, because they are still fairly new types of displays. until they can develop tose two further, the best picture quality is either from dlp or projection. (the only reason that plasma and lcd are so desirable to most ppl is because they are trendy. and because they are trendy, the sellers nd manufacturers jack up the prices because the people dont know any better and are just happy with the newest stuff. which in the end, is bad for the consumer that actually knows what he is doing, because we get less quality for our money. but, when the spastics stop making it popular, and companies actualy find how to inprove quality AND reduce manufacturing costs. oh, and for the people that think there are no such thing as a good dlp, id like them to not look at the rice-muncher brands that try to make evereything at one time. (there are some good japanese brands, but most are made by same company that makes fridges and toasters 0_o ) my system: flagship runco dlp projector wilson X-2 Alexandria (A-front speaker pair, for home theater) wilson watch center channel wilson cub rear channels wilson XS sub tower, powered by Bryston ST amplifier, worlds best amp for driving bass krell master reference sub, 22k wats on dual 15" Duntech soverigns, the worlds most accurate loudspeaker. (B-front speaker pair, for music) Bel Canto outboard DAC Krell 7 master reference amplifiers Wadia 861 CD player Krell DVD player & reciever, both from the KAV series |
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aviateur Unregistered guest | (looking to purchase a HL-R5067W) I am reading this post and have a question for the sammy owners: Is there a way to disable DNIE anywhere? I went to CC and check the menu and could not find anything besides the Demo setup which would piss me off because this is a marketing tool and has not benefit for the user. The remote also looks cheezy. Any other comments on this TV? I am in the market to buy a DLP TV soon (2 weeks or less) I have seen a good price at Ebuyer and Sunshine ($1945 shipping included, no Tax for me in CA). |
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New member Username: Willng24Red Sox Nation Post Number: 7 Registered: Aug-05 | hey Aviateur, I'm starting to see the benefits of the HL-R5067w over the pedistal tv. I haven't had a chance to really play with it. check www.pricegrabber. I found it for $1,869.98 to Boston includes shopping. Best of luck |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 262 Registered: May-05 | The idea that you think DNIE is only a marketing tool and has no benefit is pretty cheezy. Just so you know, the Digital Natural Image Enhancer is in it's 3rd generation. It's the reason Samsung DLPs look better than any other brand. The ability to disable it has been disabled for obvious reasons. If you don't like the remote, buy a Harmony. That's a good price! |
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aviateur Unregistered guest | thanks for the help guys. I was only saying the DNIE demo mode in the setup menu does not bring anything to an end user. Would be nice to have an ON / OFF switch instead. nobody has any interest in watching the TV with the Demo mode ON unless you are really wacked  I will check pricegrabber. Other question, who bought the extended warranty and from whom? I am looking at Warrantech Repair Master because most places gouge you if you buy from them direct. I know Sammy is giving 1 year in house, my amex card gives me an extra year so I am thinking about taking a 3 years. Some warranty gaves you a one time bulb replacement, do you know who does that? I think CC is one of them. How much and from who did you buy one if you did. Thanks guys. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 524 Registered: Jul-05 | DNIE is a marketing tool LOL..Those who think otherwise probably believe the drop of "Retsin" in each Certs candy is the panacea for fresh breath. And Samsung does not look beetr then any other brand.....according to whose "expert" eyes. FYI you are so full of BS to further your DLP cause. You shoudl work for Samsung....Perhaps you do derive your income from the technology. You speak like you do. Gonna get me banned now bluffman? LOL BTW retsin is vegtable oil. |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 263 Registered: May-05 | You're all talk, tom. Since you can't seem to articulate very well, you don't even provide pleasant reading. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 527 Registered: Jul-05 | NO you are . You threatened to have me banned as you claim to have done to others. I'm thinking you're the one doing all the talking Mr English Professor. LOL Better hurry up on to the floor now. Another sucker is waiting. |
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Bronze Member Username: Helpful_smurfPost Number: 82 Registered: Jun-05 | I wonder what it would take to get Tom banned really? I wonder if enough people complained would that be all it took? How many I wonder? Five? Ten? Anyone care to join me for a mass e-mailing to the admin? |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 540 Registered: Jul-05 | Do it. You had better ban my isps as well. You can't stand the truth of another opinion which does not jibe with yur own, Welcome to the real world son. Free speech is a beatch huh? . |
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New member Username: AviateurPost Number: 1 Registered: Sep-05 | Can we come back to the topic guys, any ppl with good experience on extended warranty. Thanks |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 543 Registered: Jul-05 | Here is the best advice when it comes to Extended Warranties. If you need one. Don't buy the product becasue you are screwed in three years anyway and they do not have any guarentees your TV will not be down for weeks which in many cases they are. Only buy products that are reliable enough not to need the Extended Warranty. They are a waste of money and huge profits for the sellers. Last year, profits from warranties accounted for all of Circuit City's operating income and almost half of Best Buy's, say analysts. They figure that profit margins on contracts are between 50% and 60%. That's nearly 18 times the margin on the goods themselves. For example, a four-year contract on a $3,000 flat-panel TV costs about $400. Best Buy gives its insurers $160 and keeps $240 for itself. Indeed, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT ) has jumped into consumer electronics in a big way and now controls 20% of the market. Best Buy, with $22 billion in sales in fiscal 2004, still has 31%. But Wal-Mart has passed Circuit City, which had $9.7 billion in sales last year and a 14% share. Unlike the many specialist chains, Wal-Mart doesn't offer extended-service contracts; (They do now! $189 on RCA 52" DLP 3 years) Circuit City is more forthcoming. The Richmond (Va.)-based outfit reports how much revenue the contracts generate, along with the percentage of sales they make up -- but not the profit they produce. For the year ended Feb. 29, it said its warranty revenue totaled $326 million, or 3.3% of sales. Clearly, says SAFE's Sebastian, the retailers "don't want to disclose to J.Q. Public how much money they are making on these contracts." "Using details gleaned from industry sources, though, analyst Boehringer put together estimates of just how lucrative these contracts are. For the year ended Feb. 28, he estimates contract profits accounted for 45%, or $600 million, of Best Buy's $1.3 billion operating profit. He figures that without contract profits, Circuit City would have posted an operating loss from continuing operations of $195 million last year instead of a $564,000 profit." http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_51/b3913110_mz020.htm |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 188 Registered: May-05 | There are lots of profitable ventures in the world. People still buy the product or service if that's what they want. Buy what you want! There is no technology immune from failures. An extended warranty is a personal choice. It comes down to a choice to insure an item for a period of time or take a chance. My DLP is cutting edge technology. I bought online and saved over $1000 from full retail. The decision to use a third of that savings for a 5 year warranty that starts after the factory warranty ends was easy. My warranty is with CPS. It doesn't cover lamps. http://www.cpscorporation.com |
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New member Username: AviateurPost Number: 2 Registered: Sep-05 | Hi Tom, Thanks for those financial data but I don't really buy a product based on how much the company profit from me but more if I feel I need it, the price is right versus what I am getting for it. This is like the car warranty, depending how much you drive, what it covers and how much it cost you might do it: if someone was to offer you an extended car warranty for an extra 5 @ $5 you would take it and not really car if the company makes $4 out of you. Insurance is something you don't need unless something happens (aka Medical insurance, Life insurance), you just look at what's in for you versus how much it cost. DLP4me: I will take a look, thanks, what DLP TV do you own? |
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New member Username: AviateurPost Number: 3 Registered: Sep-05 | DLP4me: Where did you buy your TV? Which one? |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 200 Registered: May-05 | Samsung HL-R5067W and Samsung HL-P5063W Love them both! Best regards! |
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New member Username: AviateurPost Number: 4 Registered: Sep-05 | Which store did you buy them from? how long ago? at what price? I am shopping for the HL-R5067W |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 205 Registered: May-05 | My online store stopped carrying Samsung. Here are several others. http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=7752057&search=hlr5067 |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 554 Registered: Jul-05 | Be careful you are talking to a former Texas Instrument employee. I suggest you do some research Larry before you jump into the DLP pond. Lots of it. DLP4ME is oly a rah rah DLPer. Find those who are not so and then ask yourself" Larry?....DO I feel lucky today?" If the answer is yes put down your $2500 plus $400 for the EW and another $250 for a spare lamp less you be without the use of your TV for a week or more...... But don't believe me,,,,,Just do your own research and make damm sure the EW has a replacement TV so you won't have to wait a week or a month (yes a month or more) for service. Make sure there is and authorized service center near you. If you have a Costco in your town BUY IT THERE. you can bring it back in 4 years when it craps out. No EW, Just a great return policy.... BTW No charge for my opinion |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 207 Registered: May-05 | Be careful you are reading a "tom bong" post. Don't get caught in the "bong spin zone"! https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/158832.html BTW, no charge for my opinion. |
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New member Username: AviateurPost Number: 5 Registered: Sep-05 | You guys are so funny Tom, I agree with you about Costco, I will check to see if they carry what I want. Don't worry about EW, I do my homeworks before I buy and I bite if I don't get what I am expected or promised (I can be nasty if needed). About the argument on DLP, LCD, Plasma I think it's a matter of personal preference, just be aware of pros and cons for each and then make your own judgement with what you like the most, it's like a girlfriend or a house, not eveyone has the same taste. BTW that R2D2 TV in that other forum was funny LOL, Tom no offense. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 573 Registered: Jul-05 | >>>BTW that R2D2 TV in that other forum was funny LOL, Tom no offense<<< Yes it was, but the real irony is that there will never be a 60 year old DLP that will be relavant enough to be an antique or of any interest at all!! ) |
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Anonymous | Guys, people like me come to this forum to get info on product, not deal with egotistical punks who can't get along. I came to get opinions on a Mitsu DLP, and all I got was arguments that hold no weight. I purchased a Samsung HL-R5067W and I love it. I also looked at LCD, plasma, DILA, etc. All were good technology, but I went with DLP. Everyone has their own opinion about things, but maybe they want some info from somebody else who has experience, like you guys. But if you keep pissing and moaning about posts that some 20 year old kid (who has no idea about LIFE, much less DLP) made that don't even pertain to the original question, then soon all you'll have left is a forum admin and trolls. Thanks for nuthin'. |
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Bronze Member Username: Helpful_smurfPost Number: 87 Registered: Jun-05 | I think if we actually had a forum admin we'd be minus one troll about now. Good choice on the 5067 btw. i own one as well and absolutely LOVE it! |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 575 Registered: Jul-05 | But apparantly you don't and the whiner above you should read about those who have his technology. If he did and considered it useful information he would not have bought the TV. I suggest Mr anonymous just leaves this forum and enjoys his DLP...while he can. He will be back soon enough whining about lamp life and why his TV has been without a lamp for a week and possibly more like many are doing. Yeah great choice! LOL |
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My service department loves to see them coming! Unregistered guest | Anonymous Keep in mind that some people here are SHILLS for the companies mfg'ing, and some are SHILLS for places such as BEST BUY, etc. And others are SHILLS for the companies mfg'ing the component parts. SHILL: Someone who works for, or has some kind of financial interest in whatever is being discussed... but says they do not. Yea dude, you need to buy one of those , I make a good profit off that model, and my service department loves to see them coming! Those sets are cash cows said the salesperson to himself as he was telling the potential customer how great a "buy" it would be. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 589 Registered: Jul-05 | The margins on the Extended Warranties exceed the double digit margins on the TVs! A perfect Storm of unreliable new technology and scare EW Sales tactics |
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Anonymous | Hmmm, I bought my samsung 50inch DLP 3 weeks ago, I love the picture but.. I had the colour wheel replaced right away because the 1st one was sickeningly loud.. Now it is super quiet and I was totally happy untill.. Now I have 2 light grey spots that can be seen only on a pure white backround (computer DVI) and its driving me nuts. I will call the repair guy again and see what this is all about, then I'll let you know. |
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New member Username: BrunswagsPost Number: 1 Registered: Oct-05 | Bought a Samsung HLR5067W on Monday. The picture is "nice" but not "knock your socks off" quality. Now, I'm reading message boards trying to see what other people are saying about the similar models. The issue is one of noise in the image when viewing TV coming through my Charter cable box. The image is improved when using my DVD player. Tomorrow, Charter is coming to install a HD cable box. My question is, how good should standard TV appear(not HD). Also, in three days, I've seen none of the rainbow affect read about here. The other question I have regards the extended warranty. Best Buy wants $399.99 for 5 years. Is this something someone should definitely have. |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 371 Registered: May-05 | Take the cable straight to your set. (No box) Let your tuner find the digital network channels. They won't be on familiar channel numbers. If it doesn't find any, hook up a uhf antenna to the Air input and search again. Cable box signal sucks. Cable sucks! Direct TV is nice, but offers no EDTV digital network signals. It takes a UHF antenna to get free EDTV networks with primetime HD programming. Standard Def (SD) is on it's way out. The five year warranty is a good idea since this is cutting edge technology. Don't look for it to cover consumable lamps, though. Keep a spare lamp handy for no downtime. Should it fail in the first year, Samsung will replace it at no charge. |
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Silver Member Username: Helpful_smurfPost Number: 102 Registered: Jun-05 | Actually BB extended warranty DOES cover bulbs. It was changed in the last year or so to cover them. BUT, the service plans are only offered for 4 years. This is not an "extension" of the manufacturer's warranty, it starts the day you buy it. And if you did not get the service plan when you purchased the set and are wanting it now you are probably going to be kicking yourself as the procedure for doing it after the fact (once the TV has arrived) requires a physical inspection of the TV at the store to insure it is in good working order. The longer you wait the more likely it will be that you will have to either bring the TV in or have it brought in to be able to buy the EW. |
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New member Username: AviateurPost Number: 6 Registered: Sep-05 | I bought the Sammy 5678W at Good Guys in CA as they are closing the door. Paid $2,990. If it is not too late they are selling those at very good price to move their inventory out. Check their website for the store list with special sales: They would not sell the extended warranty since they are liquidating but I know GE and Warrantech have one, I am not in a rush because Amex cover me for an extra year and I have another program that extend it too at no cost (no bulb replacement tough but it is free). I love this TV in 480p for DVD and with Cable HD feed but noticed all cable feeds are not equal. CBS and ABC are generally great, KQED is not that great. I have basic cable but I am still getting HD feed for standard channel (I did not know I had them since my previous TV was not supporting HD). What is the purpose of the optional Cable Smartcard addition for the TV? What do you gain? My TV guide is working fine without it. |
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New member Username: HillladoKamloops, BC Canada Post Number: 5 Registered: May-05 | Hello, It was May of this year we bought a HL-5685W. I wanted to update you that we have had no problems. Picture is still great. I have read a few postings that said that the lamp may be no good if it was from a certain company. How do you find out what bulb is in your unit? I am hoping not having to actually pull it out. Anyway just thought you would like to know. Have a good one. Larry |
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New member Username: AviateurPost Number: 7 Registered: Sep-05 | Does anybody know how to get to the service menu of sammy 5678W? I am guessing this is a remote control key combination but good luck to try to guess it. What is the purpose of the USB service connection at the back? upgrade the TV firmware? Thanks Laurent |
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New member Username: AviateurPost Number: 8 Registered: Sep-05 | Found it for those who want to see what is there: simply turn your system off, then use the remote and press the following buttons with about .5 to .75 seconds delay between presses: MUTE-1-8-2-POWER. Works on my Sammy 5678W. I did not change anything but you can see firmware version and lamp usage stats which is nice. Practical info before you call for service but don't tell them where you got it or it will void your warranty. |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 373 Registered: May-05 | LD, Your standard def channels will look better without the cable box. Cable companies are catching on about people receiving free ED networks straight from the coax, though. The CableCard will provide all digital programming except for pay per view if it actually works. There are still many problems with the new system. The service menu is best left alone unless you are resetting the lamp hours. Screwing things up in there can void your warranty. That said, the code should be Mute + 1 + 8 + 2 + Power. Arrow down to Options and arrow right to see the lamp hours or reset the meter. Lawrence, There should be a red sticker on left side of the set. The last letter in ( ) is the lamp maker. Mine is (P) for Phillips, which is probably what yours is. |
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New member Username: HillladoKamloops, BC Canada Post Number: 6 Registered: May-05 | Hi Again, Man I wonder some times. I forgot that I had bought a HLP5085W Service Manual. Part number SM-HLP5085W from J&J International. It tells you how to go into the Service mode and you can get the lamp life and the lamp make that is installed, plus see all of the spec's. Anyhow the lamp life on my set says 728, It is a Philips also the version is T_CLPNUS_1030. Can someone explain the lamp life number and is this the latest version?. Take care Larry |
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New member Username: HillladoKamloops, BC Canada Post Number: 7 Registered: May-05 | Thanks FYI, Ya the sticker says "P". And I know what you mean about fooling around in the service mode. I am some what in the know but still donot adjust things. |
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New member Username: HillladoKamloops, BC Canada Post Number: 8 Registered: May-05 | And an apoligie for not posting right. I did not read the replies in the right order. Do not want to appear as to much of a newbie! |
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New member Username: BrunswagsPost Number: 2 Registered: Oct-05 | Thanks for the replies. Well, Charter came out Friday and installed the new HD cable box. So now I'm receiving HD on my new Samsung HLR5067W. The HD picture is unbelievable(good). The SD picture still is in my opinion poor though. The advice of some is to eliminate the cable box. Where I live, a box is necessary to de-scramble the premium channels and to receive HD. So, I guess I'm stuck with poor SD quality. In time, more and more networks/channels will be going to HD, so the situation will only improve. I'm still riding the fence in regards to the EW. Best Buy will allow you to purchase the EW within the 30 day period after picking up the TV without having to bring in the TV or prove it's working, so I still have time to decide. I spent a few minutes searching online for a bulb replacement and it looks like they go for about $200 before shipping. It's a tough call. |
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Unregistered guest | I have a 56" old Tosh right now and would like to go bigger like 60" or bigger. What is the best bang for the buck right now in DLP? |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 416 Registered: May-05 | In that size, here is the best value in my opinion! Can't really touch another 1080P set for under $3000 and I would certainly want a 1080P resolution set if I were looking at that size. http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=10470495&search=hlr6168 If you have the bucks, folks are really boasting about the Sony KDS-R60XBR1 LCOS 1080P! http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=11403514&search=sony+60x br1 |
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1080p Unregistered guest | Bear in mind, for those reading this thread for info on what 1080p DLP set to buy, that the only 1080p sets out there that are "real" 1080p (accept 1080p inputs) are Samsung and the new HP DLPs (58" and 65"). They both accept 1080p inputs, the other sets (available now) do not. The Samsung does it over VGA, not a full digital connection, but could be OK for those going the HTPC route who doesn't mind going digital-analog-digital. The HP accepts 1080p over HDMI (two ports available) so the connection is fully digital, and supports 24, 30, and 60fps. If you're getting 1080p in part to "future proof" your purchase, the Sammy and HP are your only current options, and the HP HDMI 1080p connectivity is the superior option, IMHO. The HP is also reported to not suffer from video game lipsync issue that they Sammy sets are known for. Beware...all 1080p sets are not created equal. |
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fx Unregistered guest | Since there are currently no 1080p signals being broadcast I consider this input information currently superflous. It is not even certain that the new HD disk formats, either HDDVD or BluRay will output 1080p either. Besides the Sony Qualia will accept them as well via VGA. xvxvxvx |
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1080p Unregistered guest | Oops...forgot the Qualia...that's correct, thanks. Not on my shopping list at $10K...  Regarding superfluous... If you have an HTPC, you can input 1080p to the HP today. Simply connect your HTPC to the HDMI input. If you expect to get any sort of resale value on your HDTV in a few years when the next best thing is here, 1080p will be a must...the 720p and "fake" 1080p sets are going to take a severe dive once 1080p content gets rolling, and it will...even now when it "isn't real," it is on everyone's mind and is ubiquitous in marketing materials...and is being used to label sets that are faking it (no 1080p inputs) to help sell them. If you're interested in external processors, and they will become cheaper and more common sooner than we expect, you'll need 1080p inputs. So the feature/info could be superfluos to you if above is unimportant to you...others are certain to feel differently. By the way, Sound and Vision said the HP set compared favorably to the Qualia...so regardless of 1080p inputs, it is definitely worth looking at. http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=876&page_nu mber=1 "BOTTOM LINE Put simply, HP's MD6580n produced the best DLP-based rear-projection TV image I've seen yet, and in many ways its picture compared favorably with that of the much more-expensive Sony Qualia 006. If its rookie effort is any sign, HP should have no trouble successfully making that long trip from the home office to the living room." |
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fx Unregistered guest | "If you're interested in external processors, and they will become cheaper and more common sooner than we expect, you'll need 1080p inputs. So the feature/info could be superfluos to you if above is unimportant to you...others are certain to feel differently. " It should be unimportant to everyone for the next few years. It appears you believe that scaling an inferior signal to 1080p increases it's quality, it does not. It will not matter (very much) if you purchase a $25,000 external scaler and convert a 480i DVD into 1080p or if you convert a 480i output from your $27 Cyberhome DVD player and input it into a display that will scale to true (not wobulated) 1080p. I am not argueing that true 1080P will not be better than we have today. I am just saying there is no 1080p source material available other than short teasers used at CEA to help market their product. Nor will there be in the near future (yes this includes BluRay and HDDVD at least at 1080p 60 fps). PS: I agree about the price of the Qualia, I would like to see the HP display with a good quality 1080i or 720p input source though. xvxvxvx |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 420 Registered: May-05 | fx, I don't think anyone believes that upscaling inferior signals improves image quality. Unless those processors you speak of can scan raw 35mm film or high bit digital content into HD formats I don't think the "others" you talk about will care much for 1080P HDMI ports. " true (not wobulated) 1080p" Please, be realistic! Why does it matter how you get there if you get there. Don't tell me you think your eyes can discern some difference in quality. It's simply not believable. Samsung has a very fast process to achieve 1080P. So what? True shmoo! A 1080P image is obtained from any 1080I signal available today by performing a simple scanning conversion. All 1080 lines of resolution are there. According to ATSC standards 1080i-60 means 60 fields, not frames. The frame rate is 30fps, which is quite sufficient. Should there ever be any 1080P content it will be at 30fps or 24fps per the ATSC standards, not 60fps. I don't think you can speak for Blu-Rey or HDDVD. You can speculate all you want. I don't care for HP products. They have been notorious for using cheap parts and the CS is in India. I want to see 1080I on Sony's mid class version of Qualia called the XBR1. |
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fx Unregistered guest | I can most certainly speak for BluRay at 1080p 60fps, they have announced it will not be supported. Wobbulation is a fancy name for line doubling, and poor line doubling at that since no additional pixel differences are viewable. Please describe your definition of a simple scanning conversion. The ATSC standard does indeed include 1080p at 60fps, you might want to have a look-see. xvxvxvx |
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Bronze Member Username: ImustbecrazyPost Number: 49 Registered: Sep-05 | 1080p; "resale value on your HDTV." Who's going to buy a used tv? Not me. "BOTTOM LINE Put simply, HP's MD6580n produced the best DLP-based rear-projection TV" That's my favorite line. YOU NEED TO TALK TO THE RCA OWNERS. What do I mean? Tell me the cost of the replacement lamps $200, $300, ... $600+ dollars. If I need a color wheel replacement, when will it arrive? I've seen alot of Samsung posts, but I've never seen a complaint over waiting for a part. Yeah, HP is big, but are they really geared up for TV support? Also, is the 1080p input a standard that everyone will follow? Just one minor implementation descrepancy between the HP and the final implementaation may make the connection for the HP to external 1080p devices impossible. Of course, by being the first, they may be setting the standard. And finally, why didn't the others follow, too. Bad judgement. Or major rework internally? Who knows. I wish you luck and buy the Extended Warantee and go ahead and order you replacement bulb now that is if it doesn't cost $600+ dollars. . |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 423 Registered: May-05 | fx, You're kidding, right? Line doubling is line replication, which was first developed by Eves Faroudja in the 80's as a way to improve the NTSC image within the 6mhz channel allocation. His chip has evolved into a quite nice scaler these days. The Texas Instruments 1080P DMD chip is capable of mirror switching in the nanosecond range with destinct seperate information for each idividual pixel. Hence, my comment, "why does it matter how you get there if you get there". Why would I or anyone else need to describe a simple conversion process from interlaced to progressive. All 720P sets are currently performing this process. The 1080P sets would use the same type CMOS circuitry with different algorithms. I don't know where you dream your crap up, but I'm quickly loosing respect for your comments. Here is an ATSC link for you. Please point out the 1080P at 60 frames per second. What? You can't find it! Well...imagine that! http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/what_is_ATSC.html Here's another chart link. Not here either! Well...imagine that. http://www.adelphia.com/cable_entertainment/hdtv_details.cfm How about another! Not here, either? Gee! What ATSC chart are you talking about? http://www.highdef.org/library/hddefined.htm You must be talking about Digital Television Production Standards. They have a 1080P at 50fps and 60fps. That's not an ATSC standard for transmission, though. The frame rates require too much bandwidth. http://www.jkor.com/peter/atsc.html Your condescending tone is shadowed by your ignorance. Stick around, though. You might learn something! |
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1080p Unregistered guest | Sam...you're not going to be buying a used set in the future, you're going to be selling one, and if it's 720p or 1080i...you're going to have to dump it. (Replace "you" with "people"...I know you personally may not sell used HW, but many, many people do.) fx...as FYI notes, you are confused...external scalers will: 1. fall in price (as all HW does) 2. Scale all sources to 1080p much better and with much better options to control the scaling than ANYTHING in pretty much any TV 3. Not work on your TV unless it accepts 1080p over HDMI Not for everyone, but much more financially feasible in the near future for many of us... HP has years of experience in DLP projectors, invented Wobulation, which as anyone who follows the technology knows, is an industry standard and works, no ifs, ands, or buts...full stop. FYI...I think you make a mistake on lumping the HP DLPs w/other HP products you may have issues with...HP appears to be taking the DLP market very seriously, and this set is up there w/the best in the market from what I've seen...first DLP that I would consider owning.... |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 424 Registered: May-05 | 1080p, I'll be observing the progress of several new models to see if they have legs. You may be right! After all, Samsung was a semiconductor manufacturer before they became a multi-billion dollar television manufacturer. More proof that everyone wants in the HDTV game. Here is an interesting article about Texas Instruments having a new 1080P chip that doesn't utilize the HP patented "Wobulation" process. CEDIA Expo Day 2 By Thomas J. Norton September 10, 2005 -- First thing Friday morning, the day the show floor opened, I dashed over to Projection Design's booth. The Norwegian manufacturer promised to have something revolutionary. And they did. Their Model Three 1080 single-chip front projector, as the model number suggests, offers a full 1920x1080 resolution. This originates from a brand new TI DLP chip, with full 1920x1080 resolution. That's on the chip, not just on the screen. In short, it does not use the wobulation technology you'll find in all the new 1080p rear projection sets. The latter apparently does not work well with large, front-projection images. In any event, this technology will obviously not be exclusive to Projection Design, though they may be the first to market a 1080p DLP front projector. The Model Three will have 6 lens options, a claimed contrast of 7500:1, an ANSI lumens output of 3500, two color wheels (!), and a likely availability in early 2006. I haven't yet made it to all the booths on the show floor, so may yet discover other manufacturers who are showing prototypes of 1080p DLP front projectors for home use. And I haven't yet actually seen the Projection Design in action; early setup problems delayed the demo, so I plan to stop back tomorrow. The actual release date of the product will depend on when the chip becomes available in production quantities, and the price has not yet been determined. http://ultimateavmag.com/news/090905cedia02/ |
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fx Unregistered guest | FYI, You are unable to find theFCC TSC standard? Not too much of a surprise since you thing wobulation is something other than duplicating pixels. I'd feel sorry for you but it would be a waste of my compassion. Pretty cute that you suppiled links to charts rahter than the FCC site where the standard is defined. xvxvxvx |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 426 Registered: May-05 | fx, HP describes it as fractional pixel duplication and overlay, not line doubling. TI has a non-wobulated 1080P chip now anyway. Are you unable to find the FCC link and provide it? Even if the FCC states such a format the ATSC doesn't consider it as a legitimate DTV format and neither organization will ever mandate it. Don't look for any broadcasting network to transmit 1080P at 60 frames per second in our lifetime without utilizing severely degrading compression ratios. We are discussing today's ATSC standards, which are 18 well established formats for DTV. None of them are 1080P at 60 frames per second. Hey, if I'm off base here, please guide me to the correct data. I'll refrain from further personal attacks. |
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New member Username: Qaz111111Post Number: 1 Registered: Nov-05 | Before buying online check reseller ratings. Many of the cheap deals will be nightmares. Be careful. |
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fx Unregistered guest | TI has a non-wobulated 1080P chip now anyway. A valid and very good point FYI. Even if the FCC states such a format the ATSC doesn't consider it as a legitimate DTV format and neither organization will ever mandate it. Don't look for any broadcasting network to transmit 1080P at 60 frames per second in our lifetime without utilizing severely degrading compression ratios. Another good point and I agree it will never be broadcast so I apologize for adding irrelevant information to the discussion. We are discussing today's ATSC standards, which are 18 well established formats for DTV. None of them are 1080P at 60 frames per second. You are correct (if we exclude HDTV professional video cameras) and this is what really matters in the actual production of equipment and retransmission of programming data. No more personal attacks from me either, please accept my apology. xvxvxvx |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 430 Registered: May-05 | Actually, you are correct about wobulation being a form of doubling. It's a cheezy cost-cutting way to get there. I hope they drop that method soon. I apologize! Best regards! FYI |
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1080p Unregistered guest | Nothing cheesy about wobulation...if you have seen it in action you'd know it's one of those things that "just works." What matters most is what you see, not how it gets there... |
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Silver Member Username: FyiDallas, Texas Post Number: 433 Registered: May-05 | Either you have new distinct seperate detail per pixel or you have duplicated pixels. While it may look good on the bigger screens it's still a filler technology of a lessor resolution. Here are some quotes from HP. "When combined with Digital Light Processing (DLP) technology from Texas Instruments, "wobulation" allows for a digital image to be projected at double it's resolution --without changing the light modulator or increasing pixels" The question is, double what resolution? "We applied our technology expertise in digital imaging and printing to digital projection and found a way to improve image quality without increasing cost," said Steve J. Brown, vice president, Digital Projection and Imaging, HP. Source: http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2004/040609a.html |
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1080p Unregistered guest | My point is that the technical why's and wherefors aren't important in terms of the actual experience, which does work. Your eye and mind don't care how they are fooled, just that they are fooled, and wobulation is successful in that. Animation and films "cheat" by leaving out details that the mind adds...not like this is new or anything. You can argue about technical purity and "truth" in terms of the pixels really being there or not...but in the end, if it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, might as well give in and call it a duck. :D |
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Anonymous | Im going with a Toshiba 72hm195, and its the best tv that i've ever owned. The price is $5000 and its well worth it. it has 1080p perfect for the new next-gen gaming consoles. |
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New member Username: JathanielCleveland, MS USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Dec-05 | The Samsung HL-R5688W is the absolute best DLP hands-down. A previous model with the 4th Gen TI light engine won CES 2004 innovation of the year. Try beating the price of www.abesofmaine.com Must match this set with Samsung's DVD-HD950 which won CES 2005 innovation of the year. Compared to other more expensive DVD HD players this unit rocks. A final compliment would be Onkyo's HT-S780 7.1 1000 Watt complete Home Theatre system. Wait till Feb. and get a HD-DVR not sure about brand/model of choice. |
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Anonymous | Wow, I was only looking to see what model is the best - TODAY. Lots of good data, definitely on track with the Samsung series. I found an HLP5085 and an HLR5087 at good prices since newer models are out. Any recommendation for the cost conscience? Should I take the deal (<$2k) or go newer yet for $600 more? Why? |
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Captain Hook579 Unregistered guest | I bought the RCA HD50LPW175 at BB a couple weeks ago and it just blows me away. The contrast and detail I feel is better than the Sammys that I saw. It's $1799 right now, too. |
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HErb Johnson Unregistered guest | I agree with the picture on RCA dlps. They get knocked a lot on these boards, but I think it's undeserved, they defintely look great. And no lip sync issues like Samsung either. RCa evens out the inputs so gaming is awesome. |
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Faretheewell Unregistered guest | Anonymous...you got nothing w/the Tosh that will help you w/next gen gaming units if the Tosh doesn't have 1080p inputs via HDMI (or VGA at a mimimum)...1080p display upscaling of content is there, but check to see if it allows 1080p INPUTS. I suspect it does not.... |
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New member Username: DadiodanWenatchee, Wa Usa Post Number: 1 Registered: Jan-06 | I am going to get the toshiba 56"mx195 for 2700. I was set on the Grand Wega's until I saw it side by side with this Toshiba. All dlp's that I saw until this one had terrible viewing angles. Does anyone have any comments on this Tv. dadio |
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newSuper Unregistered guest | get the HLR5087W for $600 more. It is definately worth it Much better TV that uses the HD2++ chip. |
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Bronze Member Username: UhphikapPost Number: 46 Registered: Jun-05 | Some of you may know me from the JVC and Sony threads here on ecoustics, as I've been around here for a good while working with ecoustics members. We just recently expanded our offerings to include the Samsung DLP line. If you are interested, take a look here: http://tapeworkstexas.com/tvs___rear_projection.html In most cases, I can give ecoustics.com members better pricing than what is listed on our website...just be sure to let me know where you found the information. Many of these units are in stock ready to ship immediately, just give me a call or send me an email to find out if yours is currently available. For a freight quote, please include your city/state/zip as well, and whether or not we are shipping to a residence (as opposed to a business) since there's always an extra charge for a residential delivery with any freight company. Thanks, Brian Pool TapeWorks Texas 1-866-827-3489 tapeworksbrian@sbcglobal.net http://tapeworkstexas.com/tvs___rear_projection.html Carrying the following models: • Samsung HLR4266W 42" DLP Television • Samsung HLR4667W 46" DLP Television • Samsung HLR5067W 50" DLP Television • Samsung HLR5078W 50" DLP Television • Samsung HLR5087W 50" DLP Television • Samsung HLR5667W 56" DLP Television • Samsung HLR5668W 56" DLP Television • Samsung HLR5677W 56" DLP Television • Samsung HLR5678W 56" DLP Television • Samsung HLR5688W 56" DLP Television • Samsung HLR6167W 61" DLP Television • Samsung HLR6168W 61" DLP Television • Samsung HLR6178W 61" DLP Television • Samsung HLR6768W 67" DLP Television • Samsung HLR7178W 71" DLP Television |
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Unregistered guest | I have been researching for about a year and am ready to purchase a DLP. I am considering the Samsung HL-R5087W or HL-R5067W. I have been through the specs and apart from the design factor, the only difference is the DLP chip. The HL-R5667W has 0.55" DMD Chip whereas the HL-R5087W has a 0.8" 720 DLP Chip. Apart from these, the HL-R5087 loses some inputs from the HL-R5067. Costwise, the HL-R5087 costs about $300 to $700 more than the other one. I am confused. Can anyone explain me if the difference in chip is worth the extra cost? What is the extra wow factor which would make one shell out the extra $500 (average)??? |
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New member Username: Chawk62Post Number: 1 Registered: Jan-06 | I just bought the Samsung HLR5667W. Can anyone who has had this DLP set for a while give me any history on it? Thanks |
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New member Username: Mayo78Donnelly, Alberta Canada Post Number: 1 Registered: Feb-06 | I'm looking at buying the Samsung HL-R5662. Wondering if anyone knows much about this unit, I'm having a hard time finding much on it. I can grab it for 2800 CDN, and I find it looks quite good. Any info. would be great. Also liked the look of a Sony 55" LCD but it only had one HDMI input and no DVI, so I changed choice. Also changed choice from LCD to DLP after watching "Transporter 2" and "One For The Money" on my buddy's 56" DLP Toshiba. Really liked the darks and appreciated the picture during fast moving scenes. |
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Bronze Member Username: ViiofixNew Haven, CT New Haven Post Number: 11 Registered: Jan-06 | Rich M ~ Before you buy, did you check out the Toshiba MX195 Models ? I just bought a 72" and it has awesome picture in HD using HDMI cable. |
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New member Username: Mayo78Donnelly, Alberta Canada Post Number: 2 Registered: Feb-06 | Did a little research and I feel that the Sammy 5662 is still a great buy. My buddy has the MX195 but he paid $1000 dollars more, I'll admit his looks good. He thought the Sammy looked just as good and figured if he would have found the deal I did he would take the Sammy over his Toshiba. Thanks for the info. |
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New member Username: BriankPost Number: 8 Registered: Jan-06 | I'm asking myself what's the best out there as I'm in the market for a DLP. My answer: Wait till April when the new Samsungs based on the 7th gen DLP chip come out. 1080p, a game mode and the high end model gets rid of the bulb and colorwheel for Samsung's new LED technology. Plus, the 50" 1080p lists for $2899. That's a steal for a 1080p TV with those specs and no doubt you'll be able to find it for less in May. |
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Unregistered guest | Has anybody checked out the Sharp56DR650 yet? CU just rated it #1 in the March 2006 issue? |
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New member Username: CroozerRockford, IL United States Post Number: 5 Registered: Feb-06 | The best DLP out there is the one that YOU like the most. |
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Bronze Member Username: AgentxfilePost Number: 25 Registered: Jun-05 | I think Croozer said it best or has said the best thing. "The best DLP out there is the one that YOU like the most." |
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New member Username: Bvk10454MYRTLE BEACH, SC USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Feb-06 | I am ready to purchase a dlp tv. Can you please give me three choices that you all think are the best. Thank you ahead of time for your help. |
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Silver Member Username: Helpful_smurfPost Number: 174 Registered: Jun-05 | My top picks would be Toshiba 72 inch 1080p (dang that's big!) Samsung HLR5067w Toshiba 52 inch 720p The first one runs about 5k but dang that is a big beatiful set! The second two are priced around 2000-2500ish at most brick and mortar retailers and are both fine sets. |
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Bronze Member Username: AgentxfilePost Number: 29 Registered: Jun-05 | I am getting an "RCA Scenium 50in Widescreen Digital-Cable-Ready DLP Rear-Projection HDTV - Model: HD50LPW175" in the next few weeks, which I have only seen at Best Buy stores. I have searched DLP tvs for about a year now and I had also downloaded many manuals from the net so I have done alot of research. I decided on the RCA, because I have always had RCA tvs without any problems and I haven't heard to many bad things about this "RCA Scenium 50in Widescreen Digital-Cable-Ready DLP Rear-Projection HDTV - Model: HD50LPW175". I also have seen this RCA tv at a Best Buy store and compared it side-by-side to the "Samsung 50in Widescreen Digital-Cable-Ready DLP Rear-Projection HDTV - Model: HLR5067W" and after going through the menus and adjusting settings with both tvs the RCA seems to have a much better quality of picture and clearer sound. So my only pick is the "RCA Scenium 50in Widescreen Digital-Cable-Ready DLP Rear-Projection HDTV - Model: HD50LPW175", and for only $1999.99 for a 50in DLP tv that's a steal. Joe |
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camcoy Unregistered guest | Does anyone know how the RCA Scenium 50" (HD50LPW166pk) that is going to be on sale at Costco starting Feb 20th compares to other Scenium 50" models, including the HD50LPW175? If it is comparable to others of the same size made by RCA then the price at Costco is hard to beat--$1500, including the stand! Any thoughts or info. on this would be greatly appreciated. |
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Silver Member Username: Xdrummer03Tenessee Post Number: 228 Registered: Jul-05 | I agree with Croozer,its the one you like PQ on the best.It is even like when asking which do you like better LCD or DLP,its what you notice the most in a picture.My favorite DLP is any of the new Toshiba's.46,52,56,62HM195 series. |
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Bronze Member Username: ChomperoniPost Number: 16 Registered: Aug-05 | I have a Samsung HL-R6168 and cannot be any happier. The only other TV that can do better is the Sony XBR but it is a very small difference that most people cannot tell and costs $1500.00 more. When people come over to my house and they see my new set (2 months old now) they are amazed at the picture quality. Go for the Sammy... |
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Sean1080p Unregistered guest | The HL-Sxx87W will be out in April '06. Gen 7, 2 HDMI 1080P Inputs, From Samsung press release: Jan 6 2006 Las Vegas, NV - Samsung, the market and technology leader in DLP micro-display panels advances high definition television viewing with its 7th generation line of high-end 1080p models. The new 87 Series DLPs - the 61" HL-S6187W, 56" HL-S5687 and the 50" HL-S5087W -- feature a sleek new design and Samsung's revolutionary DACS speaker system, at more affordable prices. Our new 87 Series DLPs feature 1920 x 1080p picture quality, superior sound systems and advanced digital connectivity price points that make it even more attractive for consumers to enjoy all the benefits of a 1080P resolution HDTV," said Dan Schinasi, Senior Marketing Manager for Projection TV for Samsung Electronics America. Samsung's 87 Series DLP TVs make the luxury home theater experience more affordable and feature-rich than ever. The 7th generation DLPs fit seamlessly into almost any living room with a slim profile and sleek "hidden" speaker design. Samsung's breakthrough DACS (Dedicated Acoustic Chamber Speakers) feature dual dedicated acoustic chambers for low-range, separate mid/high-range speakers, and a robust 10 Watt x 2 audio system. With their sophisticated glossy black finish, and 61", 56" and 50" screen sizes, the 87 Series DLPs are the perfect complement to even the most stylish home décor. The 50" HL-S5687W, 56" HL-S5687W, and the 61" HL-S6187W feature the latest Texas Instruments DLP chip for true HD 1920 x 1080p HDTV images. The 1080p DLPs offer the ultimate in picture performance with an ultra high contrast ratio of 10,000:1 with superb brightness. The Cinema Smooth Gen 7 Exclusive Light Engine creates a picture with no visible pixel structure for a captivating, theater-quality experience. Samsung's Digital Natural Image Engine (DNIe) optimizes the picture from any input signal. The built-in HDTV-ATSC tuner with Cable CARD permits using the TV's remote control to surf the world of digital cable and digital cable HDTV. Samsung's 87 Series DLP models feature the latest digital connectivity enhancements. Game Mode gives video game aficionados their most sought after features such as enhanced response time and improved sound quality, in addition to dark area and game graphic enhancements. And the 1080p input capability lets consumers experience the best possible signal transfer currently available when connecting other high definition peripherals such as DVD players. Two HDMI inputs allow high quality connections with other HD devices, optimizing sound and picture reproduction through simultaneous transmission of audio and video signals over one wire. Users can connect easily to a notebook or computer through the PC-input. And a USB 1.1 connection with photo viewer lets consumers connect cameras and other storage devices to display photos on screen in cinematic high definition. The 50" HL-S5087W, ($2,899 MSRP), 56" HL-S5687W ($3,199 MSRP) and 61" HL-S6187W ($3,599 MSRP) will be available in April 2006. |
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Bronze Member Username: BriankPost Number: 15 Registered: Jan-06 | I was a little dissapointed to see that the HL-Sxx87W Gen 7 DLP chips achieve 1080p resolution using HP's "wobulation" technology. While this sounds like a cheap trick to get to 1080p, I must say I thought the RCA 50" 175 series DLP looked very good. This TV wobulates to reach 720p resolutions and keep the cost down to $2000 or less. So maybe wobulation isn't so bad and I will still buy one of these TVs... |
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Anonymous | Do not spend any money on a dlp until you have read tom bong's posts! |
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Anonymous | What a conpletely idiotic statement to make! Bong was banned from this forum twice. Anything he ever posted was garbage not indifferent from yours. |
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Anonymous | An entire web site devoted to possible solutions to keep dlp televisions functioning well into their warranty! (Simply amazing!) |
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Anonymous | And LCDs and LCOSs! What makes you think this is a DLP forum? Dumbass! |
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Anonymous | I would also like to know about the RCA Scenium 50" (HD50LPW166pk)on sale at Costco for $1499 including stand. The display model had a good pic. Sale lasts til Sunday. I think I'm going to get one. Has anyone bought one? |
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Anonymous | I would also like to know about the RCA Scenium 50" (HD50LPW166pk)on sale at Costco for $1499 including stand. The display model had a good pic. Sale lasts til Sunday. I think I'm going to get one. Has anyone bought one? |
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New member Username: ClingerPost Number: 1 Registered: Feb-06 | HELP!!!! I have an opportunity to buy a toshiba 62inch DLP for for 2900.00 including canadian taxes. MSRP 4,449.00. slightly used,open box sale from best buy,beautiful picture, only 1 hdmi input, 1080i not p. anyone have any suggestions!!!!! |
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Anonymous | what does everybody think about lg dlp tv's.? |
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New member Username: Bvk10454MYRTLE BEACH, SC USA Post Number: 3 Registered: Feb-06 | I have read in other forums about the Rca 50" your asking about. People are having problems with them. The fan is very loud is one complaint. They have issues with the bulbs going out very fast. Please check other forums. Cnet has one audioholics is another There are alot of different ones. What I have read has not been good. we all work hard for our money and want to spend it the best we can. This is only what I have read. |
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Anonymous | What does anybody think about LG DLP TV's. In particular the 52 inch size |
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New member Username: Bvk10454MYRTLE BEACH, SC USA Post Number: 4 Registered: Feb-06 | Go to CNET type in lg 52" dlp and see what comes up. They review equipment all the time. Just one site to try and check out. |
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Anonymous | i have a dlp tv just got it. dvd play great but when we look at tv it looks like a rolling bar from top to bottom almost like a shadow.what can it be. we have cable if that makes a differnce any ideas thanks |
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Silver Member Username: Helpful_smurfPost Number: 179 Registered: Jun-05 | Do you have digital cable? If the DVD plays fine it tells me it's not an issue with the set, but rather an issue with the source (AKA your cable). If your set has an integrated tuner try hooking up an antenna and view some digital band channels and see how that looks. I'll wager you have no more rolling bar with that source. Analog cable is a VERY poor source for any HDTV. Moving to Digital will bring improvement to your picture and should eliminate your problem. It also gives you the ability to get HD. Analog cannot provide that. |
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Anonymous | help ful smurf. thank you so much I will give digital a try. |
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New member Username: ClingerPost Number: 2 Registered: Feb-06 | nobody gave me info about buying the toshiba 62hm85,but thought i would let everyone else know about my buying expierience. I have always been a sony fan and stuck with this company until faced with a real good deal. I decided what the hell I will be diferent and try a change. Sometimes were afraid of change, the unknown, did I choose wisely or poorly. I am proud to announce that I chose wisely, I decided to go for the DLP instead of the LCD. I brought this TV home, set it up, freaked me out because of the cooling fan was a little louder than expected, but its nice to know that you have a good cooling system to maintain the life of your investment. Turned the set on and was suprised how long it took to have the lamps heat up to produce the picture, but hey everything needs time to get going, gradual is better then immediate. anything to increase the life of the lamp. Once the picture was up and going, I was pleasantly pleased of the picture quality. DVD was better than normal TV of course. My 3 year old son really enjoyed watching his movie Ice Age, and so did I, But one thing that really pleased me was that DLP's didn't have that delayed reaction that LCD's have on fast moving scenes. Sound quality was another bonus, just the two speakers on the sides of the TV made it seem like i was listning to a surround sound stereo. Menues were a little harder to fiqure out, but eventually managed. I did end up buying an extended warranty just incase any problems do arise, so I do feel really good that I did make the right decision and that is alot said for my hard to please attitude. The other added bonus is, My wife loves it. Will keep you all updated if any problems arise, But I think its unlikely!! |
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New member Username: ClingerPost Number: 3 Registered: Feb-06 | welll people,jokes on me. The only thing I have to say in my defence is that I was drunk when I wrote the last time. The fan on my toshiba 62hm85 became alot more louder then usual, so I ordered the same thing though sears. once I let the tv warm up I hooked it up turned it on and the fan was alot quieter, BONUS, But then on the screen behold there was a big blotch going down the right side of the tv. Then it kicked me in the posterior region. hmm 2 toshiba tv's all 62" in my livingroom both defective. This whole expieriencs is like sex, you get all pumped up about it, then when you wake up in the morning and you realize that it was a terrable mistake, not to mention that you drank to much, and you say damm I am not going to have sex for a long time. It's kind of the same way I feel about buying a new tv. |
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New member Username: Bvk10454MYRTLE BEACH, SC USA Post Number: 5 Registered: Feb-06 | Hey Clinger sometimes those deals that seem to good to be true are just that. Check out the reviews on any product your going to buy. We all work to hard or have worked to hard for our money. There are so many choices out there now with electronics in general. I can understand exactly how you feel. Just a few sites to try are cnet,audiohlics,av guide,digital adviser just to name a few. I don't work for any of them. I just go to different sites to read reviews. The people that own the products and use them are the ones I like to read also. Sorry about your problem hope you get it worked out soon. |
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Bronze Member Username: DobyblueSt. Catharines, Ontario Canada Post Number: 58 Registered: Oct-05 | I have to say that I've been a huge fan of Samsung's DLPs since they started coming out, but I recently had a good look at HP's new 58" HDTV DLP 1080p and it blew me away. It was very close to the Samsung 62" DLP 1080p, both had 480p sources going into them, and the HP definitely was the one I wanted to buy. If you're in the market for a DLP and love the picture Samsung puts out then I strongly encourage you to take a look at HPs 58" and 65" 1080p HDTV DLP sets. Here's the 65" http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefron ts&landing=storefronts&category=flat_panel_tvs&orderflow=1&a1=Type&v1=MDTV&produ ct_code=L1737A%23ABA&catLevel=2 and the 58" http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefron ts&landing=storefronts&category=flat_panel_tvs&orderflow=1&a1=Type&v1=MDTV&produ ct_code=L1798A%23ABA&catLevel=2 |
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New member Username: ClingerPost Number: 4 Registered: Feb-06 | Hi steven, Dont know to much on the hp but when I was looking at the toshiba tv's, one of the salesmen at best buy told me that the hp had a massive booklet of potential problems, but your right it did have a very nice picture on it. The salesman could have been full of crap too. Brian thanks for the input!! |
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New member Username: Koolkeith13Post Number: 1 Registered: Apr-06 | Im thinking sbout getting the Samsung HL-R5078W / 50-inch / 1920x1080p / 10000:1 Contrast Ratio / HD DLP TV. Anyone have this TV or any have any suggestions. I know nothing about TVs and dont want to make a mistake. Any reviews out there on this set? Thanks |
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Bronze Member Username: JumpbackPost Number: 82 Registered: Nov-05 | Todd, I suggest you go to CNET.com They have in depth reviews that will give you more information than you will ever need on just about every set out there. Personally, I think you are on the right track with Samsung. I just purchased a 61" 1080p set and it is spectacular. The store had a huge sale on it and it was too good to turn down. |
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