Archive through December 09, 2004
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New member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | I tried Google which gives two returns of some but small interest. Tried the canadian and american Toshiba sites to no avail. Tried the customer service in Toronto but gave up after waiting on the phone for half an hour. It is for sale at Future Shop (Montreal) but even there the info is scarce (a small add sheet) or plainly wrong (the sheet states a width of 45.5 inches, while the tv is 44" in diagonal with the speaker positioned under the screen...). The model wasn't on display and there was no way to see the owner's manual. Would anyone have any accurate info (about the differences from the 46HM84 for example) or could point to a good source ? I find this model appealing, especially since it has a 15 pins input for a PC, something forbidden for the other model of the family, like the 46HM84, page 15 of the manual. Thanks for your time. Jean |
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New member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 2 Registered: Nov-04 | Wow : this post sank like a brick !  Anyway, I was able to get the user manual from another source. If anyone is interested in these details, I'll be checking on this thread for 4-5 days. Thanks anyways. Jean |
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New member Username: ArlinPost Number: 4 Registered: Nov-04 | Is the manual you have in some electronic form (PDF)? If so, could you post it for download? Thanks |
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New member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 3 Registered: Nov-04 | Arlin, sir. Unfortunately, it is a photocopy made for me by the nice fellows at Future Shop (no spam here, believe me since I pay full price [although there is some bargaining possible], but the "associates" who are actually receiving a formation in big screen tvs are quite helpful). I can point you to this pdf though, one that pdf Toshiba Canada emailed me ; be forewarned that it is quite thin yet interesting. I'll leave it on the server for a couple of days only. Let me know when you got it. At your service for any complement of information. Jean |
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New member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 4 Registered: Nov-04 | I answered today by email to some of you this : So far so good. The blacks are not the darkest but I am used to CRT only so this is hard to beat... On the other hand it really doesn't matter in actual use : a matter of perception I guess, the brain seem to believe that what the darker is actually black. The luminosity is more than enough : for those who saw it, at the beginning of Final Fantasy : The Spirits... there is a dream scene in which the sun of another planet is supposed to emit a blinding light : well that scene actually hurts the eyes even though I play the movie with a 40W lamp lighting the back wall behind the TV. The connectivity is complete and the HDMI a blessing. In any case, this Toshiba does a surprisingly good job with just the basic cable/antenna RF signal ; it's fantastic on Components, hard to believe it's not HD (takes over the progressive scan, not letting my dvd doing it), wonderful on HDMI, crisp and clean on RGB (for computers, use the 15 pins connector or the HDMI/DVI one ; have the latest drivers for your card, the one with a 1280X720 resolution.) The only problem is that the TV doesn't seem able to make sense of the S-Video signal that comes out of my Illico cable decoder (EPN 8000 from Scientific Atlanta) : I'm likely going to have to upgrade with the 8300 HD with components and HDMI connectors. Back to watching the tv now. Jean |
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YLaw Unregistered guest | Hi Jean, What is the price of this TV at futureshop. Just curious, this TV looks interesting |
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New member Username: TexascrudePost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | I've seen the Toshiba 44NHM84 and I'm looking for info myself. It is 40.5" wide (I measured it) and about 29.5" high. List price is $3199.00Can,but can be bought for cheaper.Some one said it's the same as the LG44"DLP,and it does look very close except for the colour,dark grey instead of black. |
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New member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 5 Registered: Nov-04 | Danny : you are right for the measurements and those on the pdf are misleading. YLaw : I paid 2839.99$ CAN, plus taxes. It is a very nice tv but it really needs, at the very least, a decoder that can do 480p through components connexions. I got my Illico HD decoder tonight but it isn't active yet. Jean |
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New member Username: TexascrudePost Number: 2 Registered: Nov-04 | Jean, I thought the 44 NHM84 had DVI instead of HDMI? The price you got was fair, although it can be bought for a little cheaper on the West Coast.I'm still using a CTR (Toshiba 34HF81)with a Shaw Cable STB DVR 6208 and HiDef looks very good, but have 42" width to play with and that looks like one of the sets along with the LG..still trying to make up my mind. |
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ylaw Unregistered guest | Thanks for the info.. I know that HDMI input is better than DVI, does anyone think that this input is a must have. Kind of silly of Toshiba not to include that on a new released tv |
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New member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 6 Registered: Nov-04 | Danny you are right : DVI not HDMI. Everyone, the dealer and myself assumed wrongly. Well, the cable will be less expensive then ;). Ylaw : as far as I understand, HDMI is simply DVI with multi-channel sound. What's the use since tv never offer much more than some flavor of SRS ? Jean |
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New member Username: KenmurPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | Some Questions & Info on the Toshiba DLE TVs... http://tinyurl.com/6qef9 |
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New member Username: KenmurPost Number: 2 Registered: Nov-04 | maybe this post will work vs the last one...oops http://www.freewebs.com/cherclic/Toshiba%2044NHM84_001.htm |
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New member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 7 Registered: Nov-04 | Hey Kenmur. The lamp bears a 1 year warranty for domestic use, 30 days if it is a rental and 90 for commercial use. Most manufacturers advertise some 8000 hours of life. There's 8766 hours in a solar year : that sounds likely to be how long they'll last. I am even more happy now that the tv is connected through DVI to the Illico PVR/converter. Color, contrast, it's all there : even the blacks are back If you go to the Future Shop at the Marché Central : I had excellent service from Greg and also Alexandre who both know their stuff. If the LG still interests you, they have it at Dumoulin Electroniques. I like them too. Good luck. Jean |
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New member Username: KenmurPost Number: 3 Registered: Nov-04 | Salut Jean, I am happy to read that your DLP is lookin' even better now. I am getting closer to making a decision and maybe you could answer a few Illico HD/PVR questions...etc... Are there many HD stations..? Do you rent or own the Illico 8300HD PVR..? I have only seen a Toshiba Demo DVD playin' on the DLP and I wonder how my Illico 8000 PVR will look. I read your earlier post about your Illico box upgrade to the 8300HD PVR and I had planned to do in July 2005 when my yearly rental is up. I may just have switch earlier, as you have. As for cables, do you have any recommendations...I am also in the market for a home theatre to make the experience complete, so I will have to get all new ones. (Monster seem expensive vs Acoustic Research) I have plenty of artifacts that I currently see in both dark and light scenes on recorded shows (viewed on my Toshiba 27" Tube). Do the artifacts show up at all in recorded shows with your new HD set-up..? I will see Alexandre or Greg and see about price matchin' and all that stuff. Did you get the stand thrown in when ya bought your DLP..? Do you want one..? I may not need it if the DLP fits on top of my 42" wide Stereo Stand. Do you have a computer hooked up to the DLP and if so what is your CPU & Graphics Card..? I have been using an ATI 8500 AIW with (2) Wireless RF Audio Sender/Reciever units for TV into the Computer and Computer out to the TV for the past 3 years. A RF wireless Keyboard and Mouse rounds out the set-up. Thanks for all your time..! ~ Go Argos ~ Go Lions ~ Ciao! for Now |
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New member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | I'm planning on getting the 44NHM84 as well. Located in Montreal too. I spoke to a dealer that I know and I asked about the 46HM84 and he told me that it's not available in Canada, is this true? Also, does anyone know the actual measurement of the 52HMX84? |
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New member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 8 Registered: Nov-04 | > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Message Board: Home Video: Rear Projection TVs: Info on new Toshiba 44NHM84 (dlp) is hard to come by ! > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Posted by kenmur on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 06:38 pm: > > Salut Jean, > > Are there many HD stations..? > 10 regular (CBCHD broadcast HD very fine dead air for the moment) : PBS, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, CTV, CITYHD, TSN, RSN, Discovery. Another one comes with the Movie Network option and last two viewer choice channels (5.99$ rentals) with very little choice really. Most are impressive, especially the MovieNetworkHD, better than any DVD and the NFL game on FOX today ; one possible exception would be when the original material is non HD (or non-compatible to North American standards ?) like the World cup of golf today on ABC. > Do you rent or own the Illico 8300HD PVR..? > > We have to buy : 300$ for the regular decoder, 800$ for the PVR version. > I have only seen a Toshiba Demo DVD playin' on the DLP and I wonder > how my Illico 8000 PVR will look. > If it has component outputs and can do 480p : not bad at all. Otherwise, mine with only S-Video looked better on analog cable (the Toshiba does one serious clean-up job on analog signal that has to be seen) > I read your earlier post about your > Illico box upgrade to the 8300HD PVR and I had planned to do in July > 2005 when my yearly rental is up. I may just have switch earlier, as > you have. > > You may although, as you know, the price of the regular PVR 8000 went from 700 to 400 in 2 years. > As for cables, do you have any recommendations... > I've got Monster at Dumoulin and Future Shop. > I am also in the > market for a home theatre to make the experience complete, so I will > have to get all new ones. (Monster seem expensive vs Acoustic > Research) > > Not the one to ask : my stereo is top notch and I would never trade the image I get, plus the detail and consistent sound quality it offers for the surround that the remaining money I have could buy. > I have plenty of artifacts that I currently see in both dark and light > scenes on recorded shows (viewed on my Toshiba 27" Tube). > Do the artifacts show up at all in recorded shows with your new HD > set-up..? > > I recorded Frida in HD and it is filmlike, nothing less. I did notice moiré in a link fence and another time in a coarsely knitted sweater (in direct view, not related to the recording) > I will see Alexandre or Greg and see about price matchin' and all that > stuff. > Did you get the stand thrown in when ya bought your DLP..? > No I am a cabinet maker so I'll make my own set up. > Do you want > one..? I may not need it if the DLP fits on top of my 42" wide Stereo > Stand. > > Well it should since the TV is 40.5 inches wide. Besides that, the tv has fans since it emits quite a bit of heat (the lamp mostly I guess) so a close cabinet seems a doubious choice... > Do you have a computer hooked up to the DLP and if so what is your CPU > & Graphics Card..? > > Not yet. The computer I'll hook up to the TV has an ATI AIW 9600 Pro. > I have been using an ATI 8500 AIW with (2) Wireless RF Audio > Sender/Reciever units for TV into the Computer and Computer out to the > TV for the past 3 years. A RF wireless Keyboard and Mouse rounds out > the set-up. > > We could be twins ! ))) > Thanks for all your time..! ~ Go Argos ~ Go Lions ~ Ciao! for Now > > Playing it safe aren't you ? ;) Go Argos ! I'll let you know about the computer hook up once I find the time to finish it (a BackPack DVD±RW external to install and explore plus work tomorrow don't leave me too much time.) |
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New member Username: KenmurPost Number: 4 Registered: Nov-04 | Hey Ed, Toshiba 52" Info http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/product.asp?model=52HMX84 Toshiba 46" Info http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/product.asp?model=46HM84 Who knows if these are the true O/A sizes..? They may be a guide anyways. Ciao!    |
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New member Username: TexascrudePost Number: 3 Registered: Nov-04 | Ed It's out I saw it a couple of weeks ago (Vancouver) |
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New member Username: KenmurPost Number: 5 Registered: Nov-04 | Hey Yall, Just saw the 44NHM84, 52hm84 and 62HN84 in the same room with same source on all. I looksd at a HD/PVR recorded Football Game and then some HD Stations and then regular SD Digital Cable shows (CNN,etc). I really can notice the diff between the SD and HD as expected, but after a few minutes you become adjusted to the SD picture. I left there and went over to Future Shop and saw the 52"er...I did a double take...it had a nice picture and all then I noticed vertical lines on the bottm third of the screen than ran the width of the 52" screen. (sales dude told me he was aware and it was the only one he had heard of...I had read on ecoustics last night that sumeone had this prob too...?) I hope that these are rare happenings and that the one I get is sweet and clean. Anyway, the prices were $2750. for the 44" and $3350. for the 52"er, did not ask for the 62".(stands were included in the prices) Ciao! |
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New member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 2 Registered: Nov-04 | Thanks all. I do have a small catalog at home with the specs and measurements. Just wanted to double check if the measurements are correct. Does anyone have the 52"? Can they measure their unit, please?. If not, then I guess I'll head on to Futureshop tomorrow |
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Bronze Member Username: GregincaPost Number: 11 Registered: Sep-04 | For those having problems finding this TV on the West Coast, it can be found at Video Only. They have it at $2199. The N in the model # stands for NATM, a group of smaller retailers that work together to get better prices from manufacturers. NATM stores are the only ones selling this TV in the U.S. If you do a search you can find a list of all the stores which belong to it. |
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MrSuaveh Unregistered guest | The previous post is correct the 'N' in 44NHM84 stands for NATM a buying group. This is a Toshiba television with Toshiba technology, TALEN, PixelPure, etc - I verified this with Toshiba. I purchased mine at Video Only in Seattle for $1950, even though it was listed at $2,199, they offered, I accepted. All I can say is this TV is amazing. I had purchased a Panasonic PT-43LC14 43" LCD Projection TV (which, in terms of picture quality stacks up against the competing Sony & Hitatchi models) and the difference is HUGE. The colors pop off the screen, standard TV broadcast look great, DVD is outstanding and DVD animation (Nemo, Shrek) are 3-Dish. Colors are saturated and bright. This TV uses the HD2+ chip which is as good as you can get until XHD3 comes out (1st qtr 2005). My girlfriend (decidely not a tv person) can't stop looking at it and my tv-ophile friends are very impressed. I would strongly recommend that anyone looking to get into the big screen market wait until they can purchase the DLP of their dreams. The 44NHM84 is a great set, the 46HM84 has a different cabinet and inputs, but the same picture and unlike the 44NHM84 is widely available. I could throw out a bunch of stats, but check the 46HM84 stats (since 44NHM84 aren't easy to come by and they are the same) against anything else, go see it for yourself and you'll see it's the best deal for the money. If you have any questions about this set post a message and I'll get back with you. |
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Anonymous | does anyone know whether using the 44nhm84 as a computer monitor has long-term detrimental effects? |
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Unregistered guest | I heard that DLP TV causes headache for some people. Anyone seen this problem happenning with 44NHM84 too? Thanks |
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New member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 9 Registered: Nov-04 | Headaches. Not at all. Why would they ? I've seen my first rainbow effect today though but it happens in circumstance when I don't really watch anyway : I have to look 5 ft outside of the frame, let's say to the left and the move my eyes as quickly as I can to 5 ft to the outside on the other side. I can't make them appear within the frame of the TV. Really not disturbing at all in normal conditions but surprising the first two times. Jean |
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New member Username: VinalMassachusetts Post Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | I've heard conflicting reports whether this is a re-badged LG or a 'genuine' Toshiba. Can anyone who owns one give another opinion? I have one reserved at US $1999, but haven't seen it yet since its about a 2 hour drive away in Massachusetts. Also, any more opinions on how well it displays SD TV? Since Toshiba has little info on its web sites, any other info on it from its manual (or photo of rear connections) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! |
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Sekaran Unregistered guest | please see the thread posted before where it is mentioned that it is not LG but a model done for smaller retailers by Toshiba. |
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Anonymous | Bought one yesterday for US$1999.Looks great. The speakers seem to have less power though. It is only 30 watts. picture seems to be great for SD,HD and DVD. Details in www.toshiba.ca |
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Anon 6587846 Unregistered guest | I picked one up (44" model) from Futureshop (Vancouver BC) yesterday for $2650 Cdn. SD picture is better than I expected. DVD via component is very good! My DVD player up converts to 720P and I am very impressed with the picture. I haven't got an HD source yet but when I do I'll report on it. I like the size as it isn't too large for my room yet nice and bright. |
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Anonymous | What about this info on the digitalhome canada website.( |
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HDTV newbie Unregistered guest | I'm thinking of buying myself a Toshiba 44NHM84 for Christmas. I'm connecting it to a Pioneer DV-563as DVD player and an Onkyo TX-SR601 receiver. The sales guy at Futureshop said that the TV would upconvert the 480p signal from the DVD to 720p. And if I have 1080i signal from an HDTV receiver it would convert the signal to 720p. Does that sound right to you guys??? So the Toshiba can only do 720p??? Also what's the best way of connecting the TV that I'm getting to my existing DVD player and receiver. |
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New member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 10 Registered: Nov-04 | Quote: > "So the Toshiba can only do 720p???" > It has 1280x720 mirrors, meaning that many pixels, hence the 720p. If you can tell the difference between 1080 interlaces (which is 540 lines at a time) and 720p (which is 720 lines all the time) on a 44 inches screen then go for something else : I can't. Anyway, some channels broadcast in 1080i and others (sport channels for instance) in 720p because it refreshes faster and so can follow the action better. That's the deal Quote: >" Also what's >the best way of connecting the TV that I'm getting to my existing DVD >player and receiver." > Components through good cables (Monster here) give me excellent service. Jean |
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Bronze Member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 11 Registered: Nov-04 | Anonymous : That much tends to proove that the LG and the Toshiba have much in common. Yet the many proprietary systems Toshiba uses (Talen, PixelPerfect and many others, plus different settings may make quite a difference. Anybody with an opinion about tweaking like these guys do ? Seems a good way to invite the nasties... Jean |
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Jim128 Unregistered guest | MrSuaveh: How confident are you with the information you got from Toshiba? I called the customer service center and the guy used a lot of phrases such as "as far as I know" and so on. When I pressed him for more information he said that the only thing he had was something he downloaded from a retailer in Michigan and the set was so new that the service center had no info on it but "he was sure it was a Toshiba." I asked to speak to a supevisor but couldn't. Instead he talked to the supevisor and came back and said the "N" stood for a different color and the specs were the same as a 44HM184. I told him there was no such thing and after a long pause and paper shuffling he said it was the same as a 46" but he left me with no confidece. My delema is that I bought the set after seeing the 46" (very nice) and was told that the 44" was the same thing. I haven't opend the box because I may take it back. Jim |
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New member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 5 Registered: Nov-04 | I'm thinking of getting the 46" instead of the 44". |
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Bronze Member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 12 Registered: Nov-04 | Ed, I'm satisfied with the 44 but you won't be deceived either with the 46 I guess. Just make sure that it is what you need. It can't take a PC input for example, not even through the DVI connector. Good luck Jean |
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New member Username: VinalMassachusetts Post Number: 2 Registered: Nov-04 | I just saw a post on AVSFORUM that confirms it is made by LG. The manual for the Toshiba 44NHM84 is posted on LG's support site for manuals under Projection TV. mark |
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New member Username: SirengalPost Number: 1 Registered: Dec-04 | Does the 46" have PC Input just like the 44" TV? |
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Jim128 Unregistered guest | Well I was suprised to se a genuine Toshiba manual available for download on the LG site but it doesn't tell us if the Toshiba's an LG or the LG's a Toshiba. Is there anyone out there who has seen the two side by side and can give an opinion? Jim |
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Jim128 Unregistered guest | By that I mean the Toshiba 44" and Toshiba 46"! As I mentioned in an earlier post I bought the 44" based on the salseperson's word that the 44 & 46 were the same technology and don't feel like carting the set back to the showroom.... |
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Bronze Member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 13 Registered: Nov-04 | Quote Jim128: "and don't feel like carting the set back to the showroom.... " Quite frankly : if you like it as I do : why should you ? I'm not saying that it is the One and Only but I like it. As for being an LG : there's too much proprietary technology from Toshiba in it, from ColorStream, to Talen, from PixelPerfect to WideScreen, for it to be an LG. Lynne : I've had a chance to read the 46" user manual when it was available on Toshiba's site and it was specified that no PC should be hooked to it. When the set is designed for it, it has a 15 pin D-sub input at the back. Jean |
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New member Username: VinalMassachusetts Post Number: 3 Registered: Nov-04 | Jean, The Canadian Toshiba site and the manual from LG's site do not list PixelPerfect or Talen as being in this TV, though they do list ColorStream and WideScreen. Does the documentation that came with the TV mention them? I did find the menu screens in the PDF to be identical to what is on LG's (and Zenith's) 44" LCD TV and LG's other DLP sets. Not sure how they match to Toshiba's other TVs. The back panel connections also match LG's other sets. thanks mark |
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New member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 6 Registered: Nov-04 | Jean, Do you have the matching stand for the 44"? |
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Bronze Member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 14 Registered: Nov-04 | Ed : No. I'm a furniture maker. Jean |
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New member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 7 Registered: Nov-04 | Oh, cool... |
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New member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 8 Registered: Nov-04 | Jean, Can you make speaker cabinet? I'm asking because I'm in the DIY home audio industry and we're planning on carrying some speakers and might need to make some speaker cabinets. Here's our website: www.audiyo.com |
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Bronze Member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 15 Registered: Nov-04 | Ed: Well yes, that's something I've done on occasions. Whatever happens, I feel that I can help you more than hinder ;) . you've elected not to receive pm. Could I reach you through the email address on your site, this one mailto:info@audiyo.com?subject=Suggestion ? You can pm me your answer. Jean |
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New member Username: SirengalPost Number: 2 Registered: Dec-04 | Ok guys, I am interested in buying a TV that has PC Input, which one would you recommend that I buy? |
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New member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 9 Registered: Nov-04 | Jean, I'm not even too sure on the selections that I've made on this forum You can always email me: ed@audiyo.com |
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New member Username: KenmurPost Number: 6 Registered: Nov-04 | Ms Sirengal, What kind of output do you have on your computer..? Best would be a direct connection between D-sub 15 and D-sub 15 with a monitor cable. Some cards have TV in & TV out (composite:std. RCA type plug and S-VHS:round DIN) Since this thread is about the 44HNM84 from Toshiba it happens to have a 15 pin D-sub input at the back that is made for computer hook-up (I would think this would give a better result than using the left side S-VHS connector). The other Toshiba models do not have a D-sub type of connector on them. I am in the market, as you are for a computer ready TV. For 3 years I have been using an ATI videocard with TV in & TV out using RF to send & receive signals - computer to TV (Toshiba 27" CRT), but I'm at the point to move onto a larger screen such as the Toshiba 44NHM84 DLP. |
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New member Username: SirengalPost Number: 3 Registered: Dec-04 | Video Card: ATi Radeon 9600XT is what I have. I was told that the Toshiba 44HNM84 will only last about 5 years or so. |
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Bronze Member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 16 Registered: Nov-04 | Ms Sirengal : Who and why ? Anybody can say anything really... Jean |
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New member Username: SirengalPost Number: 4 Registered: Dec-04 | Is it true that I will also need to replace the bulb? $400-600? A friend of mine, not from here. |
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jim128 Unregistered guest | In 5 years taht set will probably be obsolete and a new one will be a lot cheaper. I remember when VCR's cost $1000. Now I see DVD playesr on sale for $20. |
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New member Username: KenmurPost Number: 7 Registered: Nov-04 | Ms Sirengal, http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/3estimated.html  cheers |
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fuzzybunny Unregistered guest | The guy at Best Buy told me that the lamp costs $350 to replace and lasts about three years. Does that sound about right? He said to take the extended warranty for $400 because it covers the first lamp replacement. As for the Tv,, the picture is great although I find it doesn't do as well with fast motion shows (sports) but the colour quality is great. Monster gold cables for $99 were recommended too for the cable box and they seem to do the job although I can't compare them to anything else. The cost was $3,000 which included a nice glass stand so the Tv probably ran about $2,800. |
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Unregistered guest | I just bought the 44" Toshiba Dlp for $1,995 with a 5 year extended warranty (6 years total)for $300 that the salesman said would probably cover 2 bulbs. Nothing was said about the hookups and I wonder what kind of picture I'll get with standard cable. Also, since it doesn't have built in HD, how good is the piture on analog cable? |
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New member Username: SirengalPost Number: 5 Registered: Dec-04 | I bought the 44" Toshiba and was hoping that someone can help me hook it up to my Home Theatre Surround System, DVD Player and Digital Cable Box. Thank you so much. |
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New member Username: SirengalPost Number: 6 Registered: Dec-04 | sleepy bill, where are you from? Canada or U.S? |
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New member Username: SirengalPost Number: 7 Registered: Dec-04 | The 44" Toshiba is giving a shadow affect on the picture. What could be the problem? |
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New member Username: SirengalPost Number: 8 Registered: Dec-04 | Hi there: I just bought a 44-Inch TheaterWide DLP Television 44NHM84. I have it connected to my Pioneer Home Theatre System, Digital Cable and a DVD Player. The sound is working great but my picture is having a shadow effect. For example: TTTThis iiiis jjjjust aaaaa ttttest. Any letter in a word on screen will carry a shadow or repeat image to the left of the letter and around a group of letters appears like the background around all the letters is distorted. The first thing I tried of course was to plug in the cable directly into the NEW TV ... as to eliminate any of the components ... and still the shadows are present. Would I be correct to simply conclude that the cable signal feed is either too strong or too weak? It is as if you are running a normal TV with rabbit ears hooked up to it. Although I have my Digital Cable hooked up correctly, so I think I do. Any suggestions? |
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New member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 10 Registered: Nov-04 | Is there any reliable Canadian site where I can purchase from? |
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New member Username: SirengalPost Number: 9 Registered: Dec-04 | Where about do you live? You are better off going to a store, don't you think? Why would you prefer to buy online then in a store? |
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Bronze Member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 11 Registered: Nov-04 | I'm just asking because I haven't seen the 46hm84 in Montreal. Also, when you buy from another province, you should pay for only one tax. That's how we do it with our online site. www.audiyo.com |
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Bronze Member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 17 Registered: Nov-04 | Ms Sirengal : I had a shawdow effect when usin S-Video cables that disappeared when using components. Since it was your other question here my setup : cable splitted between the 'Ant' input and the cable box since my cable provider feed me with analog and digital signals. I connected the outputs of both the cablebox and the DVD to the component inputs of the ty. For the home theater, I have none but you shoud choose on these, in this order : digital out from either/both the cable box/dvd if you don't have to span more than 2 meters; optical digital for longer distances ; RCA interconnects if you don't have anything else but you'll then get stereo only. Sleepy Bill: I'd be ex-tre-me-ly surprised if the bulbs were included in the extended warrantee : check it out with the store or by readin your contract. BTW, I haven't bought the extended warrantee since the dlp technology is quite reliable in itself and the bulbs weren't covered. Fuzzybunny : well, it is not CRT but better 720p which you TV does all the time, for fast motion than 1080i like most LCD retro-projectors. |
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New member Username: SirengalPost Number: 10 Registered: Dec-04 | Like I said in my forum: The first thing I tried of course was to plug in the cable directly into the NEW TV ... as to eliminate any of the components ... and still the shadows are present. Would I be correct to simply conclude that the cable signal feed is either too strong or too weak? |
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Bronze Member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 12 Registered: Nov-04 | I would try different cables to see if it makes a difference. Try some good video cable. I'm not taking about digital or S-Video cables. Try some good old fashion video cable. I'm using one called X-Symphony 1000 with a modify locking barrel rhodium plated RCA plug. |
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Bronze Member Username: SirengalPost Number: 11 Registered: Dec-04 | Could it be the TV itself that needs to be exchanged? |
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Bronze Member Username: SirengalPost Number: 12 Registered: Dec-04 | I'm gonna try to hook up just the DVD Player to the TV without the Digital Cable Box hooked up. |
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Bronze Member Username: SirengalPost Number: 13 Registered: Dec-04 | Does anyone know where I can find the back picture of the 44-Inch TheaterWide DLP Television 44NHM84? Thanks, Lynne |
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Bronze Member Username: SirengalPost Number: 14 Registered: Dec-04 | Does this sound right? Can someone explain this to me in Plain English? LOL It sounds like either an intentional demonstration such as how characters move on The Matrix or an impedance mismatch where the cable is giving you an echo. Does it happen only on the cable or does it happen on all inputs to the TV? If it is only the cable then the source could be the cable feed - try another TV - or the RF Module (tuner) in the TV - get a new TV or check it out at the shop. It the problem on both digital and normal channels? Is the problem in the lower channels 2 - 7 or medium 8 - 13 or in the 18 - 63 channels. If the problem is all inputs to the TV - cable, DVD then check to see if there is a common component. That is, is the digital cable being sent to the DVD or surround sound? It could still be the video card or even the tuner causing a reflection or echo. You need to work through the many possible options that can cause the ghosting and reduce the problem to a single component, if possible. It is hard to troubleshoot without a schematic of the connections and knowing exactly where the problem is caused by or what is not causing a problem. |
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MrSuaveh Unregistered guest | Jim128: I feel confident the 44NHM84 is a Toshiba product. I called twice actually, and the first rep I got was fuzzy on details, sounds like the person you talked to. About 3 days later I called again and got someone who immediately knew the 'N' stood for NATM (a retail buying group). When I asked if the 44NHM84 had the proprietary technology like TALEN, PixelPure, etc he verified it did. And repeatidly verified it was a Toshiba product. Also, before I purchased I compared the picture on the 44NHM84 vs the 52HMX84 and they looked identical. Does your retailer have another Toshiba model you can compare it too? |
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New member Username: TexascrudePost Number: 4 Registered: Nov-04 | The LG is made in Korea,I'm not sure where the Toshiba is made. Does someone want to look on the back of the TV to verify? |
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Bronze Member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 18 Registered: Nov-04 | Tex: Korea for the Toshiba too. Yet, il is quite pointless as long as it is made to the specifications of Toshiba and that it implements Toshiba technology. Jean |
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jim128 Unregistered guest | MrSuaveh: Thanks. I'm sure based on these responses I'll be happy with it. Right now it's boxed up with a bow waiting for Christmas so I won't be able to watch it quite yet. My guess is that there's licensing and cross-licensing agreements through out the business over various technologies. It's how it looks that matters in the end. Jim |
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toshibaminded Unregistered guest | i saw the 44nhm84 yesterday for the first time. as far as i could tell the picture was identical to the larger size toshiba dlps. same connections, same source. most likely the toshiba is manufactured by LG to tosh specifications. This is more common then one would think. many companies outsource low-production items to others. so, it doesnt surprise me that it looks and feels like an LG, probably is in most respects (but the aesthetics are toshiba all the way). But, it also makes perfect sence that on the inside eveything looks and is toshiba. on that note, the fact that the speakers dont take up footprint space is awesome in its own right. this is what convinces me to go toshiba crt over any other manufaturers (although jvc does this too, jvc is not my cup of tea). |
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New member Username: KenmurPost Number: 8 Registered: Nov-04 | Here Here...I agree with Jean. The Toshiba 44NHM84 is a great TV from all accounts from owners. The proper set-up with inter-connects (cables for this new millenium) are required in order to get the TV to show its amazing quality. I have seen the 44, 52 and 62 models and was amazed by them all...is bigger better..?  P.S. I am sourcing the replacement bulb for the TV's and I will post when info is had..! L 8 R |
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Bronze Member Username: SirengalPost Number: 15 Registered: Dec-04 | I connected my TV directly to my DVP Player and there was no shadow (ghost). My question is what could be causing the shadow (ghost) when connecting my Digital Cable Box to my TV? |
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HDTV Newbie Unregistered guest | I've seen the 44" Toshiba and LG side by side at Fuureshop. LG doesn't compare at all. The only thing I notice is there is shadowing on the text when you use the GUI on the Toshiba. I do have a question though, knowing that you can do split screen with Toshiba. Can you watch TV or DVD on one screen while surfing the internet on the other screen, if you have a computer connected to the Toshiba? Or does it only work wit regular channels on TV. Anyone who have purchased a Toshiba 44NHM84 recently and tried this out, if you could respond to this post. You would be a great help. |
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Bronze Member Username: SirengalPost Number: 16 Registered: Dec-04 | I purchased the same TV and yes you can surf while watching TV. I have seen a demo at Future Shop. What is a GUI? Cause I have shadowering as well on my Toshiba. |
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Bronze Member Username: JeanmontyPost Number: 19 Registered: Nov-04 | A GUI is a Graphical User Interface. That is what you use to navigate through your menu. About your shawdowing : I may have some on some channels, while others are crystal clear, all of this not being quite consistent all the time but the biggest culprits remaining pretty much the same. All in all it is better than it used to be on my Hitachi Ultravision 27" circa 1995. It will be some time before we get HDTV everywhere all the time. Jean |
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Unregistered guest | I bought the 44" Toshiba DLP about a month ago and so far, no complaints, the picture in HD is absolutely amazing!! I actually find it to be brighter and sharper then the 52hm84. Only one thing, recently I've noticed one or two small particles of dust behind the screen. I'm not sure if this is normal? It's very small, and doesn't bother me. Just wanted to know if anyone else has seen this as well. |
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Sekaran Unregistered guest | Does anyone know where in US can I find the matching stand(that is on Toshiba site)? I checked video only in US where I have placed my order but they don't get a matching stand.. |
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New member Username: KenmurPost Number: 9 Registered: Nov-04 | Sekaran, * model 44NHM84..? * Where are you located..?  |
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Bronze Member Username: SirengalPost Number: 17 Registered: Dec-04 | Could anyone give me some idea that I can test to see what could be causing the shadows? Thanks, Lynne |
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New member Username: KenmurPost Number: 10 Registered: Nov-04 | Replacement lamp for DLP TV model 44NHM84... Part # 23311083 will retail for $271.30, and is available through parts distributors now. (In Montreal at Capri Electronique 514-376-4245)  P.S. This info given to me by Toshiba Canada. |
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Bronze Member Username: Rex_gPost Number: 16 Registered: Nov-04 | I am thinking about buying the 44nhm84 as well. Mostly because of the small foot print, the price, and of course the HD2+ chip. I found some stores in the Midwest but they would not ship to California, but I found that the videoonly.com stores on the West Coast sells them. Do some searching and I think you will find them. Somewhere I read that independent stores wanted the manufactures to make a model that they could sell. I think this maybe one of them. As far as the stand goes I think the one pictured at the Toshiba.ca site in Canada, and Kenmur's post, is the Sonax stand, maybe Sonax LC-4284. I seen it at the futureshop.ca. I know everything points to Canada, but the video only store that I found carries the Sonax stand as well. |
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Anonymous | There's a place in California that carries them, Video Only. |
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New member Username: ClaughrenPost Number: 1 Registered: Dec-04 | Thanks for all the info on the 44NHM84 posted above. I've noticed a few prices listed but am curious to know how much people are paying in Canada for this tv. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. |
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Bronze Member Username: SirengalPost Number: 18 Registered: Dec-04 | I paid $2699.99 including the stand and a Monster Cable (DVI). |
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New member Username: ClaughrenPost Number: 2 Registered: Dec-04 | Ms. Sirengal, Thanks for the quick reply. Did you buy it from a Future Shop or Best Buy or somewhere else? I noticed your question about shadow effects on a few forums and was curious to know if you got it fixed? If you had to do it again would you buy the same tv? Thanks! |
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New member Username: ClaughrenPost Number: 3 Registered: Dec-04 | and I am assuming the $2699 was in Cdn dollars and taxes were on top of it as well, correct? |
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Bronze Member Username: KenmurPost Number: 11 Registered: Nov-04 | Chris, I have been getting quotes for the 44 and 52 in Montreal... 44 for about $2600. http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/me?a=2620&s=CAD&t=USD 52 for about $3400. http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/me?a=3400&s=CAD&t=USD&c=0 cheers  |
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Bronze Member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 13 Registered: Nov-04 | Kenmur, may I ask where in Montreal did you get these quotes from? Your price for the 44" is really good from the quote that I got. Mine was $2800 plus taxes and a free matching stand was offered. I guess I'm actually paying for the stand, eh? |
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Bronze Member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 14 Registered: Nov-04 | And it's weird that I got a quote for the 52HMX84 for $3550 plus taxes. Humm, I sure get the 52HMX84 but I don't have room in my house...damnit |
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Bronze Member Username: KenmurPost Number: 12 Registered: Nov-04 | Ed, Future-Pointe Claire-Dec-7... I had a previous quote (price match) at Future of $3550. a few weeks earlier. The 52 does not have a D-sub for a computer hook-up. (You could use a composite rca input, but the quality would suffer). cheers P.S. B & M should match price and a week earlier they were offering a free 3250 HD Illico Box. Future said that they would match that also...amazing, eh...  |
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jim128 Unregistered guest | I paid $2000 US for mine at Vidio Only. Stand was extra. Note that the stand feels like it weighs more than the TV. Won't be putting it together until Christmas Eve Though. |
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Bronze Member Username: SirengalPost Number: 19 Registered: Dec-04 | Chris, Yes $2699cdn + taxes. Lynne :-) |
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Bronze Member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 16 Registered: Nov-04 | Kenmur, thanks for the info. As for price that you got for the 44" @$2600. I guess it's a price matching that they offer you. Does the price matching has to be advertise for Futureshop to honor it? |
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