Ordered the hd pack on friday for 470.00 includes rcvr(new hughes and sammy both w/dvi) dish if needed and install. im thinking not a bad deal.. right? until i come accross some posts on the hd voice site where existing customers of 1 and 2 years get the same pack for $199 and $99 respectively. thats a steal. i called directv back up and saved 270.00. (make sure when you call you ask for a retention rep, do not explain this to the CS rep they know nothing about this.)