Onkyo ht-s650 vs. Denon dht-682xp vs. kenwood htb-505 (Page 1)

 

SK
I too am curious about this Onkyo HT-S650 that I see Circuit City advertising as "exclusive" to them for $449. Given all the changes and confusion with the Kenwood HTB 5whatevers I wonder if this is a good alternative?
 

Anonymous
Has Anyone heard the Onkyo hts650 or see it? I was thinking of buying it ?? Need some info>>. Thanks SVR
 

Anonymous
I checked out the Onkyo at Circuit City and it sucked. Of course, it was set up with the surrounds on top of the mains, so how could it not suck? You'd think CC would give an "exclusive" item more attention and set it up properly.
 

Anonymous
So did it look well built? Did the sub sound good ??? Does it look worth the money compaired to the kenwood htb505???
 

Jason E.
Okay, I too am in the delema of what to buy: The Onkyo HT-S650 or should I buy the Kenwood 505 system.

Here are some of my thoughts I hope this can help in someway but please, everyone share what you think as well.

1) The Kenwood in out of stock evrywhere. Either that means Kenwood has major problems with shipping units (although they deny Chapter 11 status)or they really are just that popular...who knows?

2) The Kenwood has a sold "name-recognition value" to the system aiding its apeal.

3) Onkyo can be picked up at your local Circuit City, no muss, no fuss.

4) Kenwood's speakes are made from paper (I believe from what I was told), Onkyo is made from the rubber substance. Duribilty? Sound Quality?

5) Kenwood has a ver flashy remote with a joystick(it's a guy thing)while Onkyo's, while functional, is not as "cool"

6) Onkyo company updates its webite with product catalouges and FAQ and Setup questions better (my opinion), than Kenwood does.

7) FOr all those who like S-Video, Onkyo has more ports than Kenwood (I believe 4 to 2) and has the S-Video front panel too.

8) Onkyo was built for high current, still have not gotten an answer bak from Kenwood if theirs was.

9)Onkyo's sub is 150 watts vs. Kenwood's 100 Watts

10) Kenwood carries Actve EQ and Cinema EQ, while I am not sure if Onkyo does or doesn't. Onkyo has Cinema Filter and WRAT technology (Wide Range Amplifier Technology). What is the comparison?

11)Both have Dolby Pro Logic, DTS, and Pro Logic II decoding

12)Both look optical cable ready and HDTV ready

13)Both company's have been around for more than 50 years, although Onkyo has only done hme audio and home theaters. Crutchfield said their name Onkyo mean On-=sound and -kyo=harmony

14) Onkyo also claims "a heavy duty power supply, oversized capacitors, cast aluminum heat sink, discrete outputs, anti-resant chassis and aluminum front panel, and high-current, low-impedance, full-bandwith-rated power."

15) Getting sick and tired of Kenwood's poor inventory perforance and also getting tired to calling on-line dealers who are out of stock. Onkyo seems to have a stable market. Will they be around longer? I really don't like the idea of buying for Circuit City (Shitty)though.

I hope this helps out greatly, although I am not sure 100% yet, I think I know where I am leaning towards.
 

Anonymous
I'm in the similar dilemma. I liked the Kenwood 504 and hoped 505 would be an upgrade from 504. But it seems to me that 505 is a step down from 504 (less connections, no front s-video inputs, no much new from 504, make you wonder what other corners might have been cutting down?) I don't understand why they discontinued a good-selling product (504) and come up with something no as good. Also no much details (correct ones, eg. subwoofer power, 120w vs 100w) can be found about 505. They really did a bad job of marketing it. Besides, it's hard to find it.
As for Onkyo 650, I don't feel very good that you can only find it at Circuit City.
 

Will Broe
Just to add another voice, I hear the Denon DHT-682XP system is good. NXGen.com has it for 491, and someone said Sears would price match it. (I'm gonna check that one out.) I was SOLD on the 504, then the 544 came out and it's all I've wanted for months. Unfortunately, it was a fluke and NOONE has any more of them. I checked out the 505 at Sears, the speakers look better, all 5 have separate woofer and tweeter. The bass is kickin on the Kenwood, but I agree with the previous poster who noted that the 505 receiver seemed like a step down.

From that I would recommend the Onkyo or Denon. (Or you could do like one guy on this forum: go to the Kenwood outlet and pick up the Kenwood vr-509 and speakers and 'build your own' 544.. ;)

The Sears here doesn't have the Denon hooked up, so I don't know how it sounds yet, I'll ask them next time I'm there.

FYI: Products are - Kenwood HTB-505, Onkyo HT S650, and Denon DHT-682XP.

Hope it helps.

Will
 

Anonymous
If you don't want to buy the Onkyo at Circuit City, you can get it at Broadway Computers or ABT Electronics.
 

Anonymous
Everyone seems to think the HTB-505 is a step down, but it seems to me like the speakers are better and the receiver is only worse because it has less "bells and whistles". So what about sound quality? Is the sound better or the same as the 504? How about compared to the Onkyo ht-s650?
Has anyone actually heard them, or seen reviews on either of these?
 

Anonymous
Will Broe, are the HTB-505 speakers available from the Kenwood dealer yet? Instead of a traditional 544, I'd like to make a 544+ using the 509 and the upgraded speakers in the 505.
 

Anonymous
Okay, I listened to both the onkyo ht-s650 and the denon dht-682xp at a local stero shop. the denon was clearer in the high end but occasionally sounded "a little tinny". any thoughts about this. which is a higher quality unit?
 

SK
I am like everyone else in this forum. I heard how great the Kenwood product was, read it myself in Consumer Reports (but noticed they only tested about 4 systems). I toyed with the idea of buying the Kenwood HTB 504 then 544 and then 505, saw there were new versions coming and going and then found it was in stock nowhere. So I narrowed it down to the Denon dht 682xp, the Onkyo ht-s650 and the Yamaha YHT-300. I decided I wanted to buy it from a local shop (not through the mail) because I didn't want to lug that giant box from work to home and worry about sending it back if there were something wrong.

I ended up going to Abt (here in Chicago) and the service was poor, they had hardly any systems set up, the salesman didn't even know about the Onkyo let alone have one displayed even though it was on their website, and he tried to get me to buy something that was $800 and he couldn't even get it to play a CD.

I drove straight to Circuit City and was sold on the Onkyo. Though it was daunting to get that huge and heavy box up three flights of stairs, I managed to piece by piece and have set it up.

The system is a bit too big for my apartment but it sounds good and I'm sure my neighbors won't appreciate it. The receiver is gigantic and barely fits in my media cart but it has so many inputs and outputs and s-video jacks that I felt it is the only one that is truly expandable if technologies change.

The only bad thing about it so far is that the remote will not control my Toshiba TV (there's no code listed in the manual for it). So I'm still stuck with now 5 remotes! I haven't been home in the daytime when I could really test how loud it can go, but I think it can hold its own against the others.

In sum, I am pleased with the purchase of the Onkyo.
 

Anonymous
Has anyone here done any type of one on one comparison of the denon dht682xp to the onkyo hts650?
 

Anonymous
Just bought the Onkyo htS650. It sounds great. I spent the last two months trying to find the the Kenwood 504/544 with no luck. Got tired of the misinformed dealers and Kenwood's customer service. Debated between the Denon xp682 and found the Onkyo at Circuit City. Features & Specs of Onkyo:

RECEIVER
5 x 100 Watts/Channel @ 8 ohms
Dolby Digital & Pro Logic II
DTS Decoding
WRAT Wide Range Amplifier Technology (10Hz -- 100kHz bandwidth)
Fully Discrete Output Stage for All Channels
Linear PCM 96kHz/24-bit D/A Converters for All Channels
4 S-Video Inputs / 1 Output
30 FM/AM Presets
A/B/A+B Speaker Switching
3 Assignable Digital Inputs
Front Panel A/V Input w/ S-Video
5.1 Multi-Channel Input
Color Coded Speaker Terminals
Preprogrammed Remote Control
SPEAKER PACKAGE
2-Way Magnetically Shielded Front Speakers with Dual 5-1/4" Woofers & 1" Balanced Tweeter
2-Way Surround Speakers with 4" Woofer & 1" Balanced Tweeter
2-Way Magnetically Shielded Center Channel Speaker with Dual 4" Woofers & 1" Balanced Tweeter
Butyl Rubber Surrounds on All Drivers
Heavily Braced Cabinets
Universal Black Oak Finish
Color Coded Speaker Terminals
POWERED SUBWOOFER:
Built-In 150 Watt Amplifier
Rigid, Low-Mass 8" Long-Throw Woofer
Line Level Inputs with Level Control
Auto-Power On/Off

AMPLIFIER WRAT
Power Output 100 W/ch
Freq. Response 20Hz-100 kHz (+1 / -3 dB)
S/N Ratio 100 db (IHF-A)
Dimensions (W x H x D) 17-1/8" x 5-7/8"x 14-13/16"
Weight 21.4 lbs.
FM/AM TUNER
Usable Sensitivity 11.2dBf
Capture Ratio NA
Image Rejection Ratio NA
IF Rejection Ratio NA
S/N Ratio
FM Mono 76db
FM Stereo 70db
Harmonic Distortion
FM Mono 0.2%
FM Stereo 0.3%
DVD UNIT NA
Signal Readout System NA
Frequency Response NA
Harmonic Distortion NA
S/N Ratio NA
Dynamic Range** NA
SPEAKERS
Subwoofer 8" cone
Front/Surround 5-1/4" cone + 1" balanced dome/ 4" cone + 1" balanced dome
Center 4" cone + 1" balanced dome
Impedance 8 ohms
Max. Power Input Front(100W)/Surround(70W)/Center(70W)/Sub(55W)
Frequency Response NA
Dimensions (W x H x D)
Subwoofer 9-1/4" x 20-5/16" x 16-3/16"
Surround 6-1/2" x 8-7/16" x 8-7/16"
Center 15-1/4" x 6" x 8-9/16"
Weight
Subwoofer 29.1 lbs
Front/Surround 12.6/4.5 lbs
Center 8.2 lbs
Freq. Resp.
Subwoofer 30 Hz - 150 Hz
Front/Surround 55 Hz - 20 kHz/65 Hz - 20 kHz
Center 65 Hz - 20 kHz

Features & Specs of Denon:

Dolby Digital Pro Logic II/DTS A/V Receiver with 5 Speakers and Powered Subwoofer • Dolby Pro Logic II, with Cinema and Music Modes • Dolby Digital and DTS decoding • 24 bit DSP processor • 5 equal power amplifier channels • 70 watts per channel into 8 ohms, <.08%THD, 20Hz - 20 kHz • 100-watts per channel into 6 ohms, 1kHz, <.7%THD • Discrete power amplifier stage • 5 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • Virtual Surround (for use with 2 speakers) • 24 bit, 96 kHz DACs • 24 bit, 96 kHz digital interface receiver • 24 bit, 96 kHz stereo PCM digital playback • Speaker A/B (front) selector • Front Panel A/V inputs with cover • 6 Channel External Input (for DVD-Audio) with wideband (100 kHz) frequency response • Addressable digital inputs, 1 optical, 1 coaxial • One Optical digital output for recording • "S" & composite video switching • Banana plug compatible speaker terminals all channels • Subwoofer Pre-amp output • Pre-programmed remote control features TV, VCR, DVD codes from other manufacturers • 5 matched and magnetically shielded, acoustic suspension loudspeakers • Powered subwoofer with 6" woofer and 55 watt amplifier
 

Anonymous
Consumers Report stated that the Kenwood HTB504 sounded as good as the Bose Lifestyle 12 @ $1,750!
Hard to find. HTB505 is the newer model according to Kenwood. Only place to find is Sears.I checked out @ CC the Onkyo. Yes they were all set up together, BUT I turned on all the other brand systems in the area (3), and they sounded tinny in comparison. I even brought in my own CD with low bass thru high treble (Hawaiian music is great with big drum lows & sea shell highs). For the price, I was very impressed! So I bought one! But I have to wait for delivery. They are selling like hotcakes! I also listened to Yakahama's $1,200 system similar to Onkyo's @ Best Buy. Didn't sound any better.
 

Anonymous
I bought the kenwood htb-505. I listened to the onkyo at the local electronic express and was sold till he goes to the back and says they are out of stock. So i went with the kenwood. They are very similiar products. The onkyo has 5 inch woofers in the surrounds where as the kenwood only has 4 inch woofers. But as with most systems you leave the bass up to the sub, and the kenwood has a potent sub. I can assure you that the onkyo also does because i heard it in a large room and i cant imagine how it would rumble in a house. Either system is worth the money, so if you are having trouble finding the kenwood go with the onkyo i was going to.
 

Anonymous
I was thinking about buying either Kenwood htb-505 or Onkyo HT-S650. I found the Kendwood one in Sears, with speakers and receivers littering everywhere. It took me a while to locate all the components. End up buying the Onkyo system. The sound is great.
My problem is with FM radio. After connecting the FM antenna supplied in the box, I couldn't get any signal from any stations, only noises. I can get signals from AM. I appreciate any help.
 

Anonymous
So finally the onkyo s650 and kenwood 505 debate has started. I am still looking at both systems and originally set on the kenwood BUT the Onkyo system looks like even a better deal for the dollar than the kenwood. I just heard the Onkyo system at the Wiz in Manhattan (5th ave) and of course the sound is going to stink when you have all the speakers and the sub piled on top of each other. I was a little dissapointed with the sub how ever. I'm not sure if it was properly connected or what, but i didn't feel the bass i was expecting from a 150W unit. Of course, there's no sales help there when you need it (Ghetto Wiz) so I tried other systems. In any case, I'm leaning to the Onkyo because they are available, they are from a dependable high end audio company, and the speakers and receiver are rock solid. By the way it was on sale at the wiz for $449.
 

I have the Kenwood HTB-504 and I am quite pleased with it. A friend has the Onkyo 650. I think I like the sound on the Onkyo better. It seemed like the voice was cleaner. Now I will say that my room is much larger and has carpeting, his is small and has wood flooring. That could make a big difference. Also his TV is smaller so the center speaker is lower (mine is on top of my set which is 5 feet high). Both are excellent for the price.
 

Anonymous
I went and listened to the Onkyo HT-S650 at Circuit City last night and it sounded great! I found out about the Kenwood HTB-505 just recently and, while the receiver looks a bit better as far as design, I'm not so sure whether the performance of receivers included with both systems is actually discernable. Onkyo's 150W subwoofer is a plus versus Kenwood's 100W woofer. I've read that Kenwood's mids are made of paper (haven't had a chance to validate). Onkyo's, on the other hand, seemed like they were made of better material than paper with butyl-rubber surrounds. They sounded clean and the woofer had no rattle.

Final verdict: Still researching, but leaning towards Onkyo.
 

Detroiter
I bought the Onkyo HT-S650 from ABC Warehouse for $450. Used it for a week and found that the top surface of the receiver got unacceptably hot and got some burning smell. Will call Onkyo and ask for a replacement.
 

Anonymous
I bought the Onkyo last night. It sounds great!! I've listened to about every system there is, and unless you are willing to spend some big $$$, the onkyo is your best bang for the buck. The quality of the speakers puts Kenwood's to shame.(Much more durable) Clarity is amazing, and the sub hits nice. With the Pro Logic II you really get a "Movies at home" experience.
 

Anonymous
Read "consumer reviews" on the CircuitCity.com site about this Onkyo. Just click on the product and look for the "Consumer reviews" link. It's rated very highly...
 

Anonymous
I purchased the Denon from Sears after they price matched it. I am extremely happy with the way it sounds. It has more than enough power, sounds are excellent, and the quality is far superior to the kenwood.
 

Anonymous
I purchased the Onkyo HT-S650 after having the store director of CC setup a unit in their speaker room for me. It blow's the Kenwood out of the water! My brother in law has the 505 and it cannot compare. The onkyo is using lareger butyl surround speakers with higher power handling along with a 150 watt 8" bandpass sub while kenwood's sub is far too small of an enclosure with an ill tuned port and front firing paper woofer with a short throw. The onkyo receiver has all of the same features kenwood is offering but doing it with a better all around reciever. It's putting out a true 65/watts per channel RMS. Kenwood is advertising 100/watts per channel but fail to mention that number is peak power. The Kenwood system is acutally only throwing out 45RMS through 4" paper speakers. The result? No high frequency reproduction and terrible low frequency response. Both receivers have a good dolby and DTS processor and ease of use. However for the money, and the performance. The onkyo is the ticket. Listen to your tunes with ALL CHANNEL surround from 2 channel sources and listen to movies with very decent sound reproduction. The sub reproduces low frequency with great accuracy whether your playing a cd or a DVD.
 

I've got the HT-S650 on the way (delivery Thursday!), and I can't wait.

Note to SK: The remote is supposed to be a learning remote, so don't fret about the lack of a predefined code for your TV. Just follow the directions in the manual on how to teach the Onkyo remote from your TV's own remote.

BTW, the manual for the receiver included with the HT-S650 (TX-SR500) can be found here:
http://www.onkyousa.com/redirect_own_manual.cfm?file=TX-SR500.E.pdf

Cheers,
Jim
 

po
I don't think the remote is a true learning remote. Based on the manual, if your other component's product code is not listed in the table, you're out of luck. There isn't any mention of it learning in the manual, or any procedure described to teach it.

Not that I care because this system ROX! I love it and my TV remote controls my TV, Cablebox, DVD and VCR so I just have to deal with a separate remote for the Onkyo. Two remotes? I can live with it. heh.

You'll enjoy it even if it doesn't control all your other stuff. Minor fault.
 

STN
I got the HT-S650 at CC for $320(thanks to my employee discount >:) ). I've loved it since the day i hooked it up. Somebody was saying that the top of their receiver was getting too hot, this is not the case with mine...in fact, i've even been known to leave a notebook or two on top of mine for days at a time, with no heat problems...and i live in Arizona, with triple digit weather daily. Sure the speakers are a little big, but they sound simply amazing.
 

Thanks, po, I stand corrected. That'll teach me to RTFM with a little more care next time. I've got a Sony TV, DVD, and VCR, so hopefully I'll be in luck with the pre-programmed codes.

In fact, I may wind up buying a third-party remote to run everything. My CD, DVD, VCR, DBS, and TV have produced a small colony of remotes on my ottoman. Any suggestions in this area are greatly appreciated.

T minus two days and counting. I can't wait to get my hands on this kit.

Cheers,
Jim
 

Just out of curiosity (and the fact that I am also considering the HTS650)what type of connectors(banana,5-way binding post,push type...) are on the back of the receiver/speakers on the Onkyo HTS650? I will most likely get this system in the near future. Therefore, I am shopping for better speaker wire since everyone seems to agree that the wire that comes with this system is crap. I have looked all around the web trying to find this bit of info to no avail, even at onkyousa.com . Also, can someone tell me how good the sub is that comes with this system? I want something that I can feel during explosions,etc. when I'm watching a movie. I just feel that the only way I can achieve this is to go with a 12" ~200 watt sub. Doesn't seem like an 8" 150 watt sub will do much, you know? I do not have a store around town that I can go to so I can demo this system :( but through weeks of research I have decided on this system based merely on the specs and user opinions alone. Thanks in advance for your help!
 

po
The receiver will take bare wire or banana plugs for all speakers. Pin connectors also kind of work as you can shove them in the same way you shove in bare wire. Not sure if spades work, I haven't unscrewed the binding post all the way to check. Maybe someone else here knows. Additionally there are spring clips for the "B" front L/R speakers as the receiver lets you select a second set of L/R speakers for maybe a different room or something. When using the B speakers, the center and surrounds are bypassed so ONLY the B speakers are running.

The speakers all have spring clips but you can't expect proper binding posts on speakers this cheap. Get some good pin connectors or just use bare wires for the speaker side connections.

I like using the banana plugs on the receiver because it neatens things up a bit on the back and if you have to unplug/plug the cable when moving things around, these are easiest. Then I am using pin connectors for the speakers as I found them a little more sturdy and resistant to being pulled out. I got both bananas and pin connectors at radio shack as they were about half the price of the monster variety and I figure they won't make too much difference with this level of equipment. I got 15 gauge monster speaker wire and a monster sub cable though.

Gosh, that was longer than I thought, sorry for injecting my $0.02 on the connects I use but just in case it helps.

BTW, the sub is fine. Plenty of punch. If you get the system and you don't like the sub (unlikely) then save up and upgrade later. The system "as is" is still beefier than anything else in it's price class.

po
 

po
BTW, look at the Sony line of universal remotes. If you already have mostly Sony stuff they'll mostly work out of the box and the Sony remotes can learn all your other equipment. Look here for all you need:

http://www.sonystyle.com/home

and go to the accessories. You'll drool a bit and even start thinking remote controls are s3xy!

:)
po
 

Robert f
I'm sold! I have actually been lookingat this system for quite some time. I has also looked at the Kenwood 505, but was unable to find it in stock anywhere. Which monster sub cable did you get?
 

po
I think I got the Monster Bass 300, $39 at circuit city.

I gotta tell you though, now that I have an entry level home theater (that I think sounds great BTW), I'm already researching speakers for the next level of performance.

The greatest thing about this system is that it gets you "in the door" to real home theater. I've got awesome movies at home now for a great price (something crucial for me as I have a 2yr old and 2 month old at home so I can't go out to movies much). The second greatest thing about this system is its true component nature so when I want to start upgrading the speakers, I can. The Onkyo receiver is quality enough that you could mate it with much higher quality speakers and it will sound even better. The potential for even better performance is there.

I think buying this system has got me somehow infected with an A/V bug.
 

BA
I just bought the Onkyo HT-S650. I am in Love, I don't know how I could watch movies the old way. The system was very easy to setup, I hooked up my VCR, DVD, Tape deck, and a Sony PS2 with no problems. I watched Star Trek IV last night and was simply amazed..... Definatly recommend this system for anyone...
 

Nick Smith
Ok, so it seems like the Onkyo will definately be the way to go. I too have had the dilemna of choosing between the two. Maybe you can help answer another question:

1. What is the best way to hook up the speakers? Placement of the center speaker (height)? What about the larger speakers? The smaller can sit comfortably on a speaker stand but what do I do about the others?

2. How does the Onkyo HT-S490 compare?

Thanks!
 

Nick Smith
One other thing, too. Can the center channel sit directly on top of the tv w/o too much of a sound quality problem?
 

po
Nick,
I've got my fronts on stands (18"), my center sitting on top of my TV (32" TV), and the rears are mounted on the wall. The sub is in between the TV and my right front speaker. If you put the center on top of your TV, just put some rubber "feet" or something similar (get'em at Target) on the bottom of the speaker (or top of TV) to decouple the two. I haven't experienced anything weird with the sound from the center this way.

If you're going to stand mount the rears, just keep in mind they are supposed to sit higher than ear level (ideally, a couple feet higher) so you'll wanna get some pretty high stands.

Get some monster cable, banana plugs (for receiver side) and pin connectors (for speaker side) for what seems to be pretty sturdy connects. Get a better cable for the sub too. All in all, the cable and connector upgrades will run you $100-$150 depending on how much you upgrade.
 

Nick Smith
Thanks for the response. I was just looking into the cable and plug upgrade. I just purchased the ONKYO HT-S650 last Saturday after reading this thread. Got it for $499 plus got the rep to throw in $50 worth of speaker wire and a new sub cable because I told him that Circuit City occassionally runs a sale on the set bringing the price down to $449. The cables are nice but I have been looking at Monster and can see what a difference it would make using a higher quality cable. I just don't know much about any of this which brings me back here.

Do I need a tool to hook up the plugs to the speaker wire? What gauge wire should I use?
 

po
For these speakers I wouldn't get anything fatter than 14-15 gauge.

You can get "crimpless" banana plug and pin connectors that won't require any tools. These are pretty much the norm now. You just strip the wire, twist it, shove it in one part of the connector, fray the strands back, screw on the other part and you're done. You'll see what I mean once you get the connectors.

Alternatively, and this is a totally reasonable way to hook the wire up, just use the bare wire and shove it right in the spring clips and binding posts. That will work just fine too and save you some cash on connectors.
 

Nick Smith
Thanks a lot for all the info! I would be totally lost without all the tips and reviews in just this thread alone!
 

Anonymous
I'm curious to know what people don't like about this system. It has received so much praise that it's scary!!! Does anyone know if Onkyo is going to put out a newer model in the coming future?
 

SK
4 months later and this is still a great system (Onkyo HTS650). I'm now thinking about getting some speaker stands but can't afford anything too expensive. What heights do you all recommend for the rear and front speakers? And by the way, I bought a cheap Sony remote to control everything and it works well.
 

Anonymous
I picked up the Onkyo 650 labor day weekend and love it. $499 at Circuit City + a $40 gift card. LOTR is amazing. The sub really does shake the room. As far as speaker height, I picked up Chicago speaker stands, 24" high, for the fronts. This puts the tweeters at around ear level when sitting. I may have been able to get away with 18", but I'm happy. The surrounds are mounted up on the side walls, with the tweeters about 6' up.
 

DL
i just bought the onkyo ht-s650 this week, and i'm having trouble getting movies to play in dolby digital. i've made sure to set the dvd audio selector to the optical input, but when i try playing a movie, the dolby digital light doesn't illuminate on the receiver indicating that the receiver is getting the signal. sound does come out of the speakers, but only in the different stereo modes. and yes, the dvds are encoded with dolby digital. isn't the receiver supposed to detect the audio signal and reproduce the sound in DD as long as the dolby digital 5.1 option is selected from the dvd menu? the strange thing is, when I turn on the receiver and then turn on the dvd player, the dolby digital light illuminates on the receiver, but once I load a dvd and it starts playing, the dolby digital light disappears and the receiver goes back to stereo for the length of the movie. If 5.1 sound is being produced, the DD light is illuminated, right? is there some sort of menu option that i overlooked and have to set to get the digital sound to work? Could I be having compatibility issues? (I'm using a Samsung dvd player.) any ideas/suggestions would be great. thanks.
 

tim
make sure that the DD 5.1 and DTS option (if available) on your DVD player is enabled. I had to do this on my samsung before the Onkyo receiver would recognize DD & DTS
 

DL
thanks tim. what you suggested worked out great. you're the man. i've been extremely frustrated with this thing for a couple of days now. its funny that it was something so simple... thanks again.
 

tim
glad I could help
 

Anonymous
I have been auditioning for an inexpensive second HT system for my spare bedroom. I must say that the HT-S650 sounds wonderful for this price range (these days, it is scary how much sound you can get for so little money - good for us hoi polloi - isn't it). I did not care much about the various Kenwood's. Based on numerous reviews, a lot of people like them, though - it is a matter of different tastes, i guess.
I am most impressed with the new dolby prologic II on the system. Makes all the old recordings sound new/great. The only problem is that the front speakers are too "massive" for my little room. But they sound good, though (i guess there is no way around acoustic physics).
Overall, a very impressive system...
(4 thumbs up - including my toes :o) )
 

Anonymous
just ordered mine yesterday from bestpriceaudiovideo.com for $470 free shipping and will receive it tomorrow...bestpriceaudiovideo is also Onkyo authorized dealer...
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