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New member Username: Music_city_monsterPost Number: 1 Registered: Dec-10 | The turntable I am currently using is the Sony PS-LX300USB USB. http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PS-LX300USB-Stereo-Turntable-Black/dp/B0015HOFZI It's a pretty crappy turntable, but I'm on a budget and can't afford a new one. It has a built-in phono preamp and has standard RCA outputs. Can somebody recommend me a pear of speakers for this? |
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Silver Member Username: SuperjazzyjamesPost Number: 857 Registered: Oct-10 | What are you amplifying it with and how much can you spend on speakers? |
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New member Username: Music_city_monsterPost Number: 3 Registered: Dec-10 | It has a built in amplifier, so I'm not amplifying it with anything. It's currently plugged into some Bose computer speakers, as I'm SUPER new to this and it's what I had laying around. I'm looking to spend 300 max, but I'd like cheaper. Can this be done? |
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Silver Member Username: SuperjazzyjamesPost Number: 860 Registered: Oct-10 | I'm guessing your bose speakers are powered (have internal amps) otherwise you wouldn't hear much. The PREamp in the turntable is just that, a PREamp. The signal has to be further amplified before speakers can do anything with it. You can get a Sony, RCA or comparable stereo receiver for $100 to &150. Last I knew Sony made 2 way bookshelf speakers for around $100 a pair. With decent speaker wire and sales tax, you might go slightly over $300. If buying the receiver now and the speakers a little later is an option, you may want to consider that. |
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Gold Member Username: Stu_pittStamford, Connecticut USA Post Number: 4227 Registered: May-05 | To expand on what Jazzy said, a phono preamp is not an amplifier. It basically brings the voltage up to line level status. Basically makes it similar to a CD player before it's connected to a receiver. Without external amplification like a receiver of integrated amp, you're not going to get any sound out of any non-powered speakers. I don't know of any non-powered speakers that have inputs for RCAs. If you're limited to $300 and don't need any other inputs, and want to keep it simple, look into Audio Engine speakers. They're powered speakers that have a very good reputation. I'm pretty sure they make a pair at your budget. You won't get a remote or source switching, but they should be the best sounding option if they'll work for you. |
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Silver Member Username: SuperjazzyjamesPost Number: 869 Registered: Oct-10 | Stu, those have preamps & volume controls? If so, that would be a start! |
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New member Username: Music_city_monsterPost Number: 4 Registered: Dec-10 | These are a little over my price range, but without the need for an amplifier might be nice. http://audioengineusa.com/Store/Audioengine-5 |
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Silver Member Username: SuperjazzyjamesPost Number: 870 Registered: Oct-10 | Danny, the preamp in your turntable only amplifies it enough for the next stage. Source equipment, like cd players, cassete decks, etc, preamplify the signal a little. Traditionally, turntables did not. The phono preamp stage was in the receiver, integrated amp or stand alone preamp. When listening to music, the basic signal path is; source player (turntable, cd player, iPod, tuner, etc), preamp, power amp speakers. The signal must pass through all four stages in order to hear it at a reasonable volume. The signal from your turntable will have to pass through a preamp (after the one in your turntable) and a power amp before it goes to the speakers. If neither Stu's suggestion or mine is within your budget, there might be other options. I'll see what else I can find for you. |
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New member Username: Music_city_monsterPost Number: 5 Registered: Dec-10 | You guys are great. Thanks for being patient with me. |
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Silver Member Username: SuperjazzyjamesPost Number: 872 Registered: Oct-10 | Not a problem Danny. We all have different levels of knowledge, taste and budgets. We help each other out. I know working with a tight budget is hard. I went from super cheezy compacts, to 100 watt per channel compact to a receiver based system. I finally have a system that sound quality wise is very close to what I want. Unfortunately, those last few ounces of sound quality are still out of reach. |
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Gold Member Username: Stu_pittStamford, Connecticut USA Post Number: 4229 Registered: May-05 | Don't sweat being misinformed. None of us knew about this stuff until we asked too. Forums make it far easier now than 15 years ago when I started buying this stuff. AudioEngine speakers have volume control. The A5 has it in front, and the A2 has it on the back. You may have to get an RCA to headphone plug-type adapter to connect the turntable. Not sure as I've never seen/heard them. I suggested them because a lot of people like them. Art, who's a regular here gave them a thumbs up a while back. I trust his opinion. |
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Silver Member Username: SuperjazzyjamesPost Number: 876 Registered: Oct-10 | You're not kidding Stu! Forums do make it much easier than just going it alone. The first real contact I had with hi fi was in the 70s. The barber I went to had one of the wildest systems I've ever seen right there in his shop! He said it was better than his home system. He explained that he spent more time in his shop than at home, so why not have it there with him? This man was way ahead of his time in many ways. Through the 80s, he developed it into one of the 5 best systems I've heard to this day. |
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Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 15654 Registered: May-04 | The Audioengine speakers have a good reputation; http://www.stereophile.com/content/audioengine-2-powered-loudspeaker and they have a model that would fit your budget; http://audioengineusa.com/Store/Audioengine-2 . The only drawback to their use would be convenience. The Audioengine speakers have a volume control located on the back of the speaker cabinet and there is only one input. If you'd like to have remote control over volume and more than one source player you can attach at any one time, then you will have to decide whether you prefer the higher sound quality of the Audioengine speakers or the higher convenience of a more traditional system set up. The more traditional route would be accomplished by using a lower priced receiver and two speakers. Low priced receivers begin with this from Best Buy; http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Insignia%26%23153%3B+-+200W+2.0+Channel+Stereo+Recei ver/9693507.p?skuId=9693507&id=1218151628383 and this from mail order/internet; Both companies sell speakers which would match the receiver you select. Don't go for big woofers or anything other than basic stuff. Insignia at Best buy sells a model NS-B2111 that would be quite decent for your application and that speaker has a decent reputation also; http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Speakers/Bookshelf-Speakers/abcat0205001.c?id=abcat0205001 Those speakers with the receiver and some cables and speaker wire should get you out the door for under $300 after tax. JR has similar products, call them and tell them your situation and ask for their advice regarding which speaker mates well with your situation and which receiver would be the best choice. Occasionally, either company will have some refurbished gear to sell at a reduced price or even some open box products. As long as the warranty is as new product I wouldn't be concerned about either. Speaker location within your room will make more difference than spending an extra $50 for speakers. A speaker will sound very different if you place it on a shelf against a wall, on the floor or on top of a hollow storage cabinet. The same goes for your turntable, palcement is very important to get the best from any table. After you've decided on the speakers and amp come back and we'll help you with placement and set up. The receiver and speakers will be more convenient and more flexible in the long run than the Audioengine speakers. The Audioengines do, however, have a good repuation. . |
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New member Username: Music_city_monsterPost Number: 6 Registered: Dec-10 | Hey everybody! I ended up going with the Audioengine A5 and I am absolutely LOVING them so far. I can't help but wonder though what would happen to the sound if I knew where to properly place them. Here are a couple of pictures of the room they are in (if that's even needed). Excuse the mess, please! The total size of the room is about 12x12. http://i52.tinypic.com/2uz9lzn.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/14bucd0.jpg |
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New member Username: Music_city_monsterPost Number: 7 Registered: Dec-10 | I'm not sure why those are sideways. |
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Gold Member Username: SuperjazzyjamesPost Number: 1266 Registered: Oct-10 | As long as you enjoy them, that's what matters. |
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New member Username: Music_city_monsterPost Number: 8 Registered: Dec-10 | Any ideas as far as speaker placement? |
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Gold Member Username: SuperjazzyjamesPost Number: 1267 Registered: Oct-10 | In all seriousness, try them in different places around the room. Closer to walls, further from walls, closer together, further apart, etc. It's all about where they sound best to you. Experiement and have fun! |
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New member Username: MalanochePost Number: 1 Registered: May-12 | I'm having problems with my turntable of the same make. I bought m-audio speakers, which a clerk told me would work no problem just connecting to my turntable without a receiver, but it doesn't work. Do I need to get a receiver or am I having a problem with the turntable itself? I've already spent upwards of $300 dollars trying to get it to work. |
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Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 17258 Registered: May-04 | . Do the speakers you purchased have their own built in power amp? |
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New member Username: MalanochePost Number: 2 Registered: May-12 | I'm not sure. I'm kind of new to this, but they are these ones: http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Studiophile-Professional-Reference-Speakers/dp/B000SDLNKA |
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Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 17260 Registered: May-04 | . That link doesn't work for me. The company is "M-Audio", is that right? What model are your speakers? Do they have any labels or claims to have an included amplifier? Something like "Powered Monitors"? |
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New member Username: MalanochePost Number: 3 Registered: May-12 | this one should work: lhttp://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MAudioAV40.html |
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New member Username: MalanochePost Number: 4 Registered: May-12 | Sorry, it's the earlier model: http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MAudioAV30.html |
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Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 17262 Registered: May-04 | . OK, the speakers have a built in amplifier. You connect your table to the twin RCA jacks on the primary speaker and then run a length of speaker cable between the two speakers - using the clip type speaker connectors - to provide power to the slave speaker. How do you have the system wired up? . |
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New member Username: MalanochePost Number: 5 Registered: May-12 | are you sure the av30's have a built in amp? because this is what I've been doing all along and it doesn't work. The speakers work fine hooked up to other things, but it's not happening with the turntable. If I need a receiver, is there anything I can use that isn't expensive as all hell, like a cheap tape deck, dvd player or something? |
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Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 17264 Registered: May-04 | . They're your speakers not mine, I'm just going by what's shown in the link you provided. Look; http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/media_hqpics/AV30-Back.jpg The back panel of the AV 30 has line in jacks and a "power" switch. No passive speaker would have those two features. This indicates the speakers are powered by a self contained amplifier. Do this, take a basic RCA interconnect cable and attach it to the input jacks of the speaker. Switch the power switch to the "ON" position and lightly flick your fingertip across the center pin of the cable's other end. Be careful, since there's no volume control on the speaker, whatever noise you create will be somewhat loud. When you briefly touch the center pin of the cable, you should hear a buzz from the speaker. If you do, the speaker is operational and your problem is likely in the table. The Sony is a USB table, right? Is there a switch on the table which selects either USB or line level output? . |
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New member Username: ThebrasasPost Number: 1 Registered: Aug-12 | Hello guys, Great info you are posting here, thanks!! My budgget is a little bit lower and I was wondering if somebody could let me know if I could use the MicroLab SOLO6C 100W Bookshelf Stereo Speakers with this turn table. Here is thelink to the item description: http://http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SP-002-ML&campaign=p cm/googleshopping&gclid=CLKZ2Kvc3LECFcUNfAodhTAAww Thanks in advance for your help. |
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Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 17338 Registered: May-04 | . Any active loudspeaker should operate from the Sony's built in pre amp. Amp input sensitivity must meet or be less than the minimum output voltage of the Sony but typically that should not be a problem. |
