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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2770 Registered: Oct-04 | http://nadelectronics.com/articles/Next-Gen-AV |
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Platinum Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 10276 Registered: Feb-05 | Interesting new products, however I still don't trust the reliability of their AVR's. |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2771 Registered: Oct-04 | Reliability issues remain with NAD, but these are interesting innovations. Have you heard of any issues with their Master Series? |
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Platinum Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 10281 Registered: Feb-05 | Oh yeah Chris. Talked with an NAD dealer who was repairing one recently and he said it was the biggest POS he's ever worked on. He didn't think much of the Master's series. He actually liked the overall presentation of the C325BEE better than the Master's amp. |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2772 Registered: Oct-04 | Well that's not good, I really loved what heard from the Master Series and I actually A-B'd it against McIntosh gear, but if I recall, the speakers were rather pedestrian Boston Acoustics. |
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Gold Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 2839 Registered: Feb-07 | What were your impressions of it stacked against the McIntosh? What McIntosh components were they? |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2773 Registered: Oct-04 | David, I really can't remember, but I remember being a bit shocked because while I've always liked the NAD sound, I hold McIntosh in the utmost regards, and I could not believe I was preferring (at least at that moment) the NAD over the Mc rig. |
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Gold Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 2842 Registered: Feb-07 | Say it ain't so! lol. |
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Gold Member Username: My_rantzAustralia Post Number: 2341 Registered: Nov-05 | So Dave, have you seen any good prices on NAD Master Series yet? Just kidding mate :-) |
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Gold Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 2845 Registered: Feb-07 | lol... I'm done with audio purchases for a long time. Hopefully. |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2774 Registered: Oct-04 | Yeah, that's how I felt! After my disastrous run-in with the L53 DVD/Receiver, I've lost quite a bit of faith in NAD quality control & engineering, but damn, I do like their sound. NAD is touting their most recent line as borrowing heavily from the Master Series: "The C 375BEE is far more than a bigger C 355BEE -- in fact, it is much closer in spec to the M3 Integrated Amplifier from NAD's high end Masters Series." "The C 375BEE boasts many upgrades and refinements taken directly from the highly acclaimed NAD Masters Series M3 Amplifier." |
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Gold Member Username: Frank_abelaBerkshire UK Post Number: 3725 Registered: Sep-04 | It's weird how that can happen though. In our shop we sell Denon and gave up on Yamaha some years ago. Although OK, the Yamahas had a tendency to break. The Denons proved to be more reliable (well, the denon AV receivers anyway). Our sister shop a few miles away had exactly the opposite. They had been with Denon but they tended to break so they moved away from Denon to...Yamaha! Their experience with Yamaha was that it was more reliable! Head scratching stuff... |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2775 Registered: Oct-04 | I know NAD has a questionable track record as it relates to past reliability, but other than my experience (my L53 became unable to read discs, and a repair would cost more than a new unit!), I'm unfamiliar with systemic issues? Do they tend to overheat; are there issues with players; or is it all of the above & more? |
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Gold Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 2846 Registered: Feb-07 | I know the C272s had issues with spontaneous combustion. I had 2 of them and they never committed suicide in such a spectacular fashion, but they sure did get hot. |
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Platinum Member Username: NuckPost Number: 12955 Registered: Dec-04 | The failure of the power capicitors in the 272 were, and I quote from the Nad website, "quite spectacular". Bad bunch of parts, all were replaced free. |
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Gold Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 2848 Registered: Feb-07 | I remember that quote from the website Nuck. |
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Platinum Member Username: NuckPost Number: 12961 Registered: Dec-04 | Honest and a sense of humour, if nothing else. |
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Gold Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 2849 Registered: Feb-07 | Always good to have a sense of humour about things when your sh!t blows up. |
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Gold Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 2850 Registered: Feb-07 | Speaking from personal experience... |
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Gold Member Username: My_rantzAustralia Post Number: 2347 Registered: Nov-05 | I had the C272 luckily it had the upgraded caps. I had the C162 and C542 also. Never a problem. All great stuff for the money. |
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Platinum Member Username: NuckPost Number: 12963 Registered: Dec-04 | And the 375Bee may be the next piece to do just that. I wonder where the pricing falls on that one? This modular might be pushing the pricing a bit... |
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10Post Number: 2638 Registered: Jun-07 | The Modular stuff from NAD has been out for some time now. It suppose to sound better than their previous offerings but I am not sure about this new design. Plus, yes, the pricing is much higher. Almost to the point where some sick separates could be purchased. To add, I have owned 6 NAD products, still own two (both AVR's) and never once had any problems with any of them except with a very old used 761 AVR I had. It was fixed for 60 bucks. Count me as a lucky guy I guess. The Kingston dealer here really likes NAD and claim their customer service with them is great. MY dealer on the other hand, is pissed at them, and claims that their techs and service have been horrible of late, and is slowly weaving out NAD for CA as their entry hi fi company. It is nice to see NAD is making at least, better sounding gear. I guess time will tell when it comes to its actual build quality. I can think of a few hi fi companies that are just taking a crap is all aspects of their product line. |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2776 Registered: Oct-04 | I've owned 4 NAD products, the aforementioned L53 which was a train-wreck, a C740 receiver, a T512 CD/DVD, and a C440 tuner, all of which performed like champs. The C740 remains one of the best sounding receivers I've ever heard. |