Archive through June 09, 2009

 

Gold Member
Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio United States

Post Number: 2069
Registered: Jun-05
Congrats Art,I figured you will like them,remember Kevlar takes a good while to fully break in,i got a feeling after a while you will like them better than the 20's.You guys better jump on the these deals from STO!
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9797
Registered: Feb-05
I agree about jumping on these deals....just an incredible speaker for the dough and a damn good speaker at full retail. Get 'em while you can fella's.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9803
Registered: Feb-05
http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrmoni&1249521723&/Wharfedale-EVO2---10

Oops...ya know he is right the grilles on these Wharfies...no I mean all Wharfies suck hard...why?

I emailed the bloke and asked him to reconsider...we'll see. I learned in a hurry with the Diamonds (and Evo's) to just leave the grilles off....the cheap pins will indeed give way.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9804
Registered: Feb-05
Chris, Sean and Mordi...either leave the grilles off or on but don't thinsk you'll be takin' 'em off and on every listening session..it won't work...the pins are very fragile.
 

Gold Member
Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2640
Registered: Oct-04
That sucks, I tend to do just that, so I guess "on" it is.

I totally get why that seller would get fed-up & sell-off after a week, I tend to like stuff that is slightly more durable than an eggshell.

I'll have to keep my fingers crossed.

...the 20s are too far away if things go south in a hurry.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9805
Registered: Feb-05
BTW the seller contacted me and he really loves the Wharfies he is just going to get a perfect pair in Cherry to match his furniture. He stated that they are the best speaker he's had in his home which includes the Ascend Sierra 1's. He is quite taken with the Evo's...like you Chris he'll likely leave the grilles on...I'm going the other way.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12579
Registered: Dec-04
If I get a set I will take out the plastic plugs and grille studs and replace them with magnets.
guys, if you are on and off with the covers, I suggest doint that, or having it done.
Art doesn't own a hammer, so maybe have a buddy or a shop do it.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9806
Registered: Feb-05
I'm close to pitiful but not quite that bad...actually I do repairs when I need to (except plumbing). I'm just not patient enough for those things that require taking your time. Never have been and never will be.

I did act as my own general contractor for the kitchen remodel and it turned out pretty well. I'm learning...but will never quite get there I'm afraid.

Nuck why don't you pick up the ones on Agon...wouldn't that be cheaper...even with duties etc than buying in Canada...I don't know, just askin'.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12583
Registered: Dec-04
Havn't looked too close here, Art, but I have a dealers # for Wharfe.
That hammer thing was a little poke, not a sharp stick bud.

Cheers!
 

Gold Member
Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2642
Registered: Oct-04
I doubt their price comes close to that AG price my good friend.
 

Gold Member
Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2643
Registered: Oct-04
Friggin craigslist!

I've been waiting since 11AM for someone to come get the A20s!

And it's beautiful out!

Anybody want a great deal?
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9808
Registered: Feb-05
Are the Wharfies better distributed in Canada than here?
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9809
Registered: Feb-05
That sucks Chris...that happens so much with CL.

BTW these Evo's sure love classical music....yeehaw!
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 158
Registered: Jan-09
Is there enough of a difference between the 8's and 10's to switch? I can't see doing it unless there is enough of a difference to make sense. I really like the black but the maple is tolerable especially after seeing Art's pictures. Before seeing his I would not have purchased them based on STO's pic.

I can get these speakers for about around $240 shipped.

What he described with the covers is exactly what happened to one of mine. I surgically removed the broken pin from three of the holes in the speaker with no problems. I can't leave the covers off all the time which is my preference because of grandkids. I did find a solution however. I use Blutak on the broken cover. STO is supposed to be sending me new ones but nothing has shown up yet.

I am interested in the magnet suggestion. How do you do that?
 

Gold Member
Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2644
Registered: Oct-04
Wharfedale is distributed in the USA???

Next thing you're going to tell me is Mission is distributed in the USA, you kidder you.
 

Gold Member
Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2645
Registered: Oct-04
"Grandkids"! Here I was thinking you were some young whipersnapper.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 159
Registered: Jan-09
I just turned 51 yesterday. Got married when I was 18. I've been married 32 years and have 6 grandkids with another on the way.

Your as young as you feel. I admit that I don't look in the mirror and see an 8 year old anymore but I am in the best condtion I've been in my entire life. Besides slower recovery time after works out and sore joints periodically I still feel like a young whipersnapper!

I guess Art is around my age right Art? How about you Chris? Honestly, I figured must of you are over 40.
 

Silver Member
Username: James_the_god

Lancaster, Lancashire England

Post Number: 741
Registered: Jan-05
I wish I'd taken a pair of tthe evo2-10s when I had the chance, I almost bought them in rosewood for a bargain from a wharfedale liquidator about a year back. Since I'm in the UK, these would now set me back about £350.
Theres no STO over here!!
 

Silver Member
Username: James_the_god

Lancaster, Lancashire England

Post Number: 742
Registered: Jan-05
20, Mordecai. And completed my second year of University yesterday
 

Platinum Member
Username: Insearchofbass

Post Number: 11575
Registered: Jun-04
I always leave the grills on my speakers so ill be ok but thanks for the heads up.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Insearchofbass

Post Number: 11576
Registered: Jun-04
"I guess Art is around my age right Art? How about you Chris? Honestly, I figured must of you are over 40."

Im 37 mord.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 160
Registered: Jan-09
I was close Sean. I figured you were younger for some reason.

J.Jarvis - All my children are older than you. You are just starting life. What univeristy are you attending? Who is you favorite football team? I like Hotspur.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 161
Registered: Jan-09
I'm curious, how much time per week do you guys spend listening to your systems?

Also, what do you estimate the break in time is for the EVOs series kevlar drivers?

One more question, when I got my NAD and EVO's someone on here said leave the treble and bass settings at zero. I did do that for about two weeks but was not satisfied with the low end response. If the amp has the settings what is the negative to adjusting treble and bass?
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9811
Registered: Feb-05
49 on the 4th of July. I'm definitely not in the best shape of my life. However I take a long walk daily and played a little basketball just awhile ago.

Both of my children are older than JJ too. My wife is 59 2 weeks before I'm 49...so yeah we are.....well seasoned.

Yeah I'd like to know how you would do the magnet thing as well Nuck.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9812
Registered: Feb-05
I spend probably 20-30 hrs a week actually listening, most of that on the weekend.

Other than internet radio in my home office I rarely listen at all during the work week. That's when my wife gets to watch a little (I mean very little) evening TV.

We are up at 4:00 am during workdays and we get home at 6:00 pm...lights out 8:00 and to sleep at 9:00...not much time for anything during the week. However we work a 4 day schedule so we have 3 day weekends every weekend.

I don't even have tone controls on my amps and my wife doesn't use her on her NAD...don't need to. Certainly no harm in using them if that's what you like though.

I am already hearing some difference in the sound of my Evo's but I'd guess with the kind of music I listen to that I'm in for a long break in.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12586
Registered: Dec-04
Just figguring to punch/pull out the plastic pieces, drill up a bit and add the round magnet catches, etc from home depot.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 162
Registered: Jan-09
Thanks Art. What do you listen to? I'm listening to a film score right now but I listen to a wide variety of music. I like some pop, rock, some country and folk. Most of what I listen to does not use or require much low end but I do want to hear it if it relevant. I think it ads some depth especially when listening to a film score or classical music.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 163
Registered: Jan-09
Just figguring to punch/pull out the plastic pieces, drill up a bit and add the round magnet catches, etc from home depot.

You must be much more skilled than I am. The thought of drilling scares me. I think I will stay with Blu Tack.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12587
Registered: Dec-04
Amp is on 24/7 when I am home, maybe 10 nights a month.
Mord, depending on the layout of the amp, leaving the tonals flat(or using a bypass) is removing more stuff from the signal path, which is usually a good thing.
My Mac integrated amp has a 5 zone EQ. Each setting is out of the circuit completely when set at center, on detent. This is very expensive.
A receiver or integrated may offer a bypass, but that may just be a processor based function for some, and not affect the signal path so much.

43, smoking hot and single/sexy, tell your daughters! Over 18 only.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 164
Registered: Jan-09
I've got to ask Art, are you a dairy farmer? Getting up at 4am sounds like one or do you have a long commute?

I listen less then 20 hours per week. A little day to day and more on the weekend. My wife is not really into it like yours. She likes music but she is either on the phone or watching TV.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12588
Registered: Dec-04
Mordecai, turn that down please!
 

Gold Member
Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2646
Registered: Oct-04
http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-Molloy/640624142
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 165
Registered: Jan-09
The NAD 325 has tone defeat which I had on for the first two weeks. I recently moved the bass one notch and now the low end is acceptable. This is why I was asking about the break in for the kevlar driver. I no the 9.1's low end improved with listening so I anticipate the Evo's to do the same.

I'm not having much luck selling the 9.1's. What do you guys think a fair price is for two month old 9.1's? I have them listed for $200 plus shipping. I'm considering placing them on Ebay today. I wish I had a use for them but I don't. If I decide to move up to the 10's I will use the money from the 9.1 sale.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 166
Registered: Jan-09
Nuck -
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9813
Registered: Feb-05
No not a Dairy farmer..lol! Both my wife and I work in social services for the Oregon Department of Human Services.
 

Gold Member
Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2647
Registered: Oct-04
A dairy farmer in Brooklyn...hmmm?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12589
Registered: Dec-04
Ain't yanking teat here neither.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12590
Registered: Dec-04
There is something that I have never typed before.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9814
Registered: Feb-05
Not dairy teat anaway...!

I'd say about $159 on those 9.1's Mordecai.

My wife likes movies a whole lot...between us we have about 900 movie titles on DVD...I have over 600 in my collection alone. So my wife would prefer to watch movies most weekend night and although I like movies I could live with 1 or 2 per month.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9815
Registered: Feb-05
Oh and I listen to almost all different types of music with the exception of hip hop, rap, contemporary country (and I love good country and alt country...we at AK call it twang), praise music or contemporary christian, and most of smooth jazz. Any of the several hundred other classifications of music you can think of I probably have some of it and like it.

Favorites being Jazz (all types except smooth), Classical (all periods and types except opera...though I love a good aria recital), and Twang or Americana as it's being called these days.

Favorite artist in popular music is Jeff Tweedy (the mind behind Wilco) and Wilco...pure genius. And here's another plug for Wilco's new DVD "Ashes of American Flags". Buy it you won't regret it!
 

Bronze Member
Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts USA

Post Number: 40
Registered: Apr-07
I might be willing to buy the Diamonds from you if you're willing to go that low Mordecai. Want me to PM you some info?
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9817
Registered: Feb-05
See!
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 167
Registered: Jan-09
I had an offer of $175. I'm not sure I want to go that low ($159.00). But it does provide some perspective or expectation of value.

Fredie - If you are still interested at $175 plus shipping let me know. Otherwise I am going to list them on Ebay.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts USA

Post Number: 41
Registered: Apr-07
What do they weigh/how much do you think shipping would be to 02021?
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 168
Registered: Jan-09
Freddie - Shipping will be $25 with Fed Ex ground. Send me an email address and I can email you some pics.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 169
Registered: Jan-09
Art and anyone, do you think the 10's sound is enough different (not better) then the 8's to move up (in size)?

I can buy the pair of Audiogon for $240 shipped which is enticing.

I hate not having easy access to do live auditoning of speakers before purchasing them.

I'm sure the 10's wont' sound worse then the 8's so I guess the only loss would be going from black (which I prefer) to maple which doesn't look bad and certainly does not effect sound quality.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts USA

Post Number: 42
Registered: Apr-07
Boulderdashcci@verizon.net

I'm not sure if I'd want to do it for $200 total. For $20 more shipped, I can chase those Evos that were linked above. Send me some pics though please, I am interested.

I really shouldn't be doing any of this, money should be going to a new amp/receiver, but with how cheap these things are going, they're hard to ignore.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9818
Registered: Feb-05
Not sure Mordecai. I've not heard the 8's. I think that the extra bass extension might be nice for you. I don't think that the midrange suffers from the larger mid/bass driver.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 170
Registered: Jan-09
Thanks Art, I would like a little more bass extension. I think Tawaun gave a brief comparison between the two and stated that the 10's are a little more dynamic with more bass extension but the imaging was not as good as the 8's. Since I'm listening at close range I'm not sure how important imaging is. I sent him a private message asking for his opinion but have not heard back yet. I am in contact with the seller and got him to post some pics on Audiogon. They are not real clear. I was interested in seeing the scratch. The speak cover is not an issue for me since I've already dealt with the same problem.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9819
Registered: Feb-05
Better get on it or buy the new ones cause Freddie means business...Freddie man, rules of engagement, give brother Mordecai right of first refusal...aight.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Slappyjones

Post Number: 22
Registered: Aug-08
I bought a pair of the rosewood evo2-10's for the $339 when they were on sale and a tsto.But I also bought a pair of b-stock Swan 2.1se's in rosewood at the same time.So far the Swan's are getting the playing time in a 2 channel setup with a rega apollo and a yba201 amp.The Swans seem much heavier and the bass was a bit bloated using a Denon avr-3806.But the Yba tamed them right down.But they sound big not like a monitor at all.

I can't believe the build quality of the Swan's they don't look like the pictures on the web site the are much darker and better looking.But I am looking forward to swapping them out for the Wharfies.
I have onlty tried them for a couple of hours because I am currently enjoying the 2.1se's.I see it taking a long time to break both of these in.I hope I have the patience I usually sell/swap stuff before I break it in though lol.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts USA

Post Number: 43
Registered: Apr-07
By all means, if those are the Evos you're referring to Mord, grab them. If you should decide to pull the trigger on that pair, let me know and I'll think about your Diamonds a bit more. If not, well.....let me know that too and I'll shoot him an email.

Thanks for the pics. I have always been really interested in Wharfedale's standmount lineup. At the time I bought my current speakers (which I like, these would just be "play" speakers really), I was after a pair of Diamonds but it was when Wharfedale's distro was having issues in the US. Now that these things are all over the place, I'm really interested in finding out if I missed out on anything.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 171
Registered: Jan-09
Don't wait on me Freddie. I've not made up my mind yet and that is a great price for 10's. I am inclined to stay with the 8's until they are broken in before replacing them and I'm still not sure I want the maple.

You would be getting a much better speaker then the 9.1's for a minor $ difference. I can always wait or purchase a new pair so please have at it.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts USA

Post Number: 44
Registered: Apr-07
Alright, thanks for the go-ahead. I'll get in touch with him.

Before I do this, anyone think the money would be better spent on the Marantz receiver (SR6001) I mentioned earlier or the NAD C315BEE that I mentioned in my thread? I only have about $350 to work with here and I really do have a low end receiver that I don't think drives my current speakers well enough, so I'm a bit concerned. Are the Wharfedales an easy load? Anyone have a budget AVR they could try them on to see how they do?
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 172
Registered: Jan-09
I had an HK 146 AVR I used with the 9.1's and they sounded okay but not as good as they do with the NAD 325.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9821
Registered: Feb-05
I have a budget AVR but I won't doing any swapping out...too much Sunday stuff to do before work tomorrow. My Yammie drove the Totem Rainmakers I had with ease so I don't think the Evo's would be a problem at all.

Personally I'd rather have the good set of speakers than the Marantz receiver or the 315BEE...neither of those represent enough of a leap over what you already have. Once you get the great deal on speakers you can save for a 325BEE that will really represent a leap forward for you...keep watching Agon as the 325 and 326 show up often and at a good price...heck you could wind up with the speakers and amp for a hair over $400 total.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts USA

Post Number: 45
Registered: Apr-07
Bleh, couldn't you have just said I'm stuck where I'm at forever and not to bother spending any money? :D


I believe I have an email to send...

On a side note, and completely jumping the gun, how do you think these will compare to my current Cambridge Soundworks M80s? I'm guessing far more detail in the upper range will be the most significant difference? I still like my M80s a lot....But at least this will give me some closure on my curiosity of Wharfedale's speakers.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9822
Registered: Feb-05
Never heard the Cambridge but my guess is that they aren't in the same league these Wharfies...which have been sounding fabulous all day.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9823
Registered: Feb-05
Example A...before they delete it.

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intatran&1249437272&/NAD-C325BEE
 

Bronze Member
Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts USA

Post Number: 46
Registered: Apr-07
Guess I'll have them in a few days, looking forward to it.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Insearchofbass

Post Number: 11579
Registered: Jun-04
I wish you luck on getting the wharfedales.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Insearchofbass

Post Number: 11580
Registered: Jun-04
Its great to see you got them Freddie.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9827
Registered: Feb-05
And remember deals like the one above with the C32BEE happen quite often on Agon...just keep your eyes open and one will fall your way.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts USA

Post Number: 47
Registered: Apr-07
I think this might be it for a little while, I need to save some money for school and I'd like to get back into playing the drums, so I need to spend some money on my kit as well. I'll probably start looking into this again in about 6 months or so. I'm sure going back and forth between the Wharfies and M80s will keep me busy for a while.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9828
Registered: Feb-05
Meanwhile Chris did your buyer show for the Alpha's. I think I'll probably sell the Atom Monitors, put 'em on CL next weekend.

Did I say that these Evo's love classical music...wow what a treat today!
 

Platinum Member
Username: Insearchofbass

Post Number: 11581
Registered: Jun-04
I never really listened to classical music but ill give it a shot when i get the speakers. What classical piece did you play on them. By the way thats 4 of us that bought the wharfedale's.
 

Gold Member
Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio United States

Post Number: 2073
Registered: Jun-05
Mordecai,sorry about that i dont know how to answer PM's on here.If i were you i would stay where you are unless you have to have the extra bass and dynamics,but you may loose a little of that snappy midrange magic that the 8's have.
 

Gold Member
Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio United States

Post Number: 2074
Registered: Jun-05
Other deals to look at guys are the av123 ELT 525B's for $175 a pair and after having a blast with the towers their detail and smoothness is very impressive and the finish speaks for itself.Also the X-sls Encores for $269 a pair,now i wish i had the Evo2 8's and Swan M1's back for some comparisons although i still have the Swan D2.1SE's.Tomorrow I'll post pics of the X-Omni's and some pics of the X-Statics and X-Amps with some impressions,but none the less the 2 budget busters above offer rediculous value like the Wharfies seems to me like these are the best deals going,people you all need to get your change together because these are slot machines that you actually win at.
 

Gold Member
Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2648
Registered: Oct-04
I got stood up Art.
 

Silver Member
Username: James_the_god

Lancaster, Lancashire England

Post Number: 743
Registered: Jan-05
"J.Jarvis - All my children are older than you. You are just starting life. What univeristy are you attending? Who is you favorite football team? I like Hotspur."

I'm at Lancaster University, UK and although lately I dont contribute much to posts I read a lot of them.
Assuming I like football Mord! I used to support Man-U but grew a dislike over a while it just doesn't interest me. Huge fan of Formula 1 though, its been a brilliant season so far!

I'm suprised how quickly you've bought your equipment Sean, speakers amp and cd player seemed effortless!
If it counts, make it '5 of us' - wharfedale (diamond 8.1s were my first hifi speakers). Although I'm sure everyones owned Wharfies. When you get ure system up and running you'll have to post a few pics for us to observe!

JJ
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9829
Registered: Feb-05
Sean, I listened to mostly classical all day yesterday. I posted a couple of my choices over on the "music selections" thread.

Bummer Chris...I got stood up a couple of times on the Beta's but they finally found a good home.
 

Gold Member
Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2649
Registered: Oct-04
I was hoping to have the A20s gone before the EVO2-10 arrive.

They should be here today...oye!
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12594
Registered: Dec-04
A million dollar putt isn't pressure.
Betting 10 bucks on a hole with only 5 in your pocket...that's pressure!

LOL Chris
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 173
Registered: Jan-09
I got an offer of $185 plus shipping for the 9.1's on Audiogon. I accepted and I'm waiting on payment.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nickelbut10

Post Number: 2562
Registered: Jun-07
27. Young, w' a beautiful home, beautiful wife, and beautiful audio/theater systems. I am loving life. Live it up Mordecai like its 1999.lol. Can't talk, in a car.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9832
Registered: Feb-05
It was a good offer Mordecai...hopefully they come through with payment.

Nick you lucky dog...good for you!
 

Gold Member
Username: Frank_abela

Berkshire UK

Post Number: 3660
Registered: Sep-04
I like the looks of the Evo series and we have a set in the shop, but somehow they just don't seem to fire customers' imaginations, even though they look so good.

Art, those Evos are very strongly toed in from what I can see. Have you played about with toe-in and found that to be the best or is there another reason for that degree of toe-in (pun intended)?

Oh, er, 45, married, definitely not in a good shape (unless round is a good shape) and the knees are taking a pounding...
 

Gold Member
Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2651
Registered: Oct-04
No EVO2-10 today, my mistake.

I might as well go on the record, 41 next week, married, no kids, one dog, in decent shape considering I've suffered from several nagging injuries for the last few years that have thrown a rather large monkey wrench into my regular exercise routine, 25-lbs. have come & gone, and I'm relatively pain free & finally getting back in shape; this is kind of important considering I'm currently employed as an Exercise Instructor.

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Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 175
Registered: Jan-09
Thanks to Audiogon the 9.1's are sold. Just got payment.

Has anyone other then Taiwan listened to the Av123 ELT525's? I'm trying to confirm that he said they are better than the EVO2 8 which really surprised me. I'm curious and I believe they have a thirty day trial. I'm having a hard time believing they are better. I mean the 8's are sounding better everyday (As I listen to Dave Mathews) and have to believe they will continue to do so with this Kevlar driver.
 

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Username: Nickelbut10

Post Number: 2563
Registered: Jun-07
Thanks Art. To think that I came from absolutely nothing in a single parent household to have everything that I have always wanted and then some. A lot of hard work and determination in the last 9 years has payed off, and I am only going to let it get better from here.

Chris man you look like your sad dude.lol. You look great for 41 dude. Take it easy on yourself. Watch the knees and back and you'll be golden.

P.S. Chris and I have each other on Facebook. The disease of the internet.LOL.
 

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9833
Registered: Feb-05
I don't even know what Facebook is thank god.

Keep in mind Mordecai that all of this audio stuff is some degree subjective...time to enjoy those lovely 8's and find audio peace...
 

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Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 176
Registered: Jan-09
You are right Art. I resisted the temptation to buy the 10's then I hear this about the 525's. I'm just so new to all this and have really only listened to about 3-4 different manufactures. I actually trialed a pair of the XLS Encores and sent them back. I just have a hard time believing they could be better than the 8's.

I am having fun with all this but you do have to draw the line somewhere. Besides, I'm hearing the break in on the Evo's is much longer than 30 hours or something. I would hate to replace them before they are aged properly.

I just need to quit coming to this site because I keep hearing about all these great deals and better sound!
 

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Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2652
Registered: Oct-04
Thanks Nick.

Fret not, it's more of a permafrown than sadness; It can be easily remedied by family, friends, dogs, music, food, and drink.
 

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Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2653
Registered: Oct-04
Art,

http://www.facebook.com/pages/eCoustics/39279018123
 

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Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 177
Registered: Jan-09
So far it looks like I was right about the average age being about 40. I few under 40 but most of us over 40.

My kids and wife are into facebook. As much as I like the internet and tech stuff facebook and my space just don't interest me. I am active on linkIn mostly for networking when I was looking for a job.

I work out 3-4 times a week. I started doing this when I was around 30 and started to get a spare tire. I am 5'10'' and weigh 180 and no longer have spare tire. I also changed my diet to fend of taking cholesterol medicine.
 

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Username: Nickelbut10

Post Number: 2564
Registered: Jun-07
lol I am on the ecoustics Fan list.
 

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Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 178
Registered: Jan-09
You look great Chris. I had to stop doing cardio for a while because of a repetitive use injury. I also stopped going to the gym during the swine flu scare. I live in Texas and there were several cases and the Fort Worth school district closed down for a week.
 

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9834
Registered: Feb-05
I know what it is Chris I was just kidding. I just don't see any use in it...however I'm open to finding out.
 

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Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2654
Registered: Oct-04
I know that you know what facebook is Art, I just didn't know if you knew there was an eCoustics-thing on it.

Whew!
 

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9835
Registered: Feb-05
So are you supposed to get your speakers tomorrow, that would be the same as Sean I believe...excellent.
 

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Username: James_the_god

Lancaster, Lancashire England

Post Number: 744
Registered: Jan-05
"I know what it is Chris I was just kidding. I just don't see any use in it...however I'm open to finding out."

Don't do it Art, its no more than a form of social de-evolution in my opinion. I'll stick by that view. I have an account but rarely go on. I find it very sad how people find the need to check it every 10 minutes and spend every bit of spare time there.
 

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Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2655
Registered: Oct-04
Hi my name is Chris, and I'm a facebook addict. It's been 10-min. since I checked my profile.

Do I get a chip?

Art, I'm not sure when they're coming, I'm not in a rush, as I need to move these A20 ASAP.
 

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9836
Registered: Feb-05
Here's the truth...I have a Facebook account and hadn't even looked at it until yesterday...I also have a Myspace account and haven't looked at it in over a year. Still trying to figure out the attraction. I figure that I must not understand the features or something. That's why I said I was open to it..basically meaning that I'm open to finding out what it is that I don't know about it that I must be missing. I figure I already spend enough time checking my email and audio forums. But again if there is some unique feature to Facebook I'd like to know what it is.
 

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Username: James_the_god

Lancaster, Lancashire England

Post Number: 745
Registered: Jan-05
I can reassure you there isn't anythig you're missing Art. I think the thing most people miss is that if they want to socialise in 'real-time' i.e. with real time updates (through peoples status updates as theyre called) then they can just socialise in real time in real life.
I used Facebook as one of my arguments in a presentation on my Information Systems in Organisations module at Uni which proved a good argument and grade in the end.
I mean, Google Wave is meant to be the next generation of social networking and if that takes off it'll be the next facebook just as facebook was the new myspace. I understand the purpose for organising events and sharing pictures, but other than that its a waste of ones life.
I'm happy to leave it a month between 'facebooking'.

You can't tell who someone is in a virtual reality world, you never will but you can get close (like here perhaps?)!

I'm sure you'll not find anyone who is anti-facebook more than me!
 

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9838
Registered: Feb-05
I'm not anti or for just curious. I don't see any of them as being inherently bad as it's how we use them that matters more than anything IMO.

When I was in Louisiana working in the Hurricane Gustav Emergency Food Stamp program we had some kids in Americorp who spent 90% of the time they were supposed to be spending feeding families looking at youtube and myspace....a whole lotta folks went hungry an extra day or two thanks to those kids wasting time.
 

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Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio United States

Post Number: 2075
Registered: Jun-05
I just turned 35,in very good shape I play ball 4 times a week,im 6'3 203,im better now than i was when i was 17 when i weighed 195,and i was a All-American then,its just a matter of takin care of yourself.
 

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Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio United States

Post Number: 2076
Registered: Jun-05
Cherry ELT 525T's on sale for $299!thats a monsters deal,they have a whole trailor full of them,and the cherry finish is beautiful!
 

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Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio United States

Post Number: 2079
Registered: Jun-05
Guys i didnt stear you wrong with the Evo2's,so trust me on this the ELT 525T's on sale for $299 is something to go after they are a major ways better than the Evo2's,I hate to say this,but for all of you who plan on ordering the Evo2 8's or 10's dont do it as great as they are,the ELT 525T's are substancial better and they are the best deal in audio right now,jump on them! i would'nt say this for nothing!
 

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Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY United States

Post Number: 2656
Registered: Oct-04
Too late, but I probably would have bought the EVO2-10 regardless; I've heard the Diamonds & liked them, so I figured the EVO2 should be discernibly better.

I'm glad you like the ELT525 Tawaun, but to me, they always seems to be a kind of stop-gap line AV123 came up with while they figured what the heck was going on with the X-Series. The ELT line does look good, and I've only heard good things about them, but I just have not been able to get excited about them.

Mark's a nice guy, I hope he gets well, and I wish him the very best of luck, but what happened over at av123 really rubbed me the wrong way, I was interested in the updated X-LS and all of its variants, if or when they ever hit the streets, I might feel different.
 

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 9839
Registered: Feb-05
That said I'm quite happy with my Evo's.

I bought the Diamonds originally due in part to all of the good press they received...the Evo's because they were inexpensive and up the chain from the Diamonds...I haven't been disappointed.

The Evo's appear to be a perfect fit for my office and boy am I glad...now I'll be looking to change the main speakers, but not for awhile.

TW, I'll be interested to hear folks impressions of the 525's. Perhaps a new thread for them is merited...especially if some folks buy 'em. Looked like they were still $175 though...
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