Cheap Tweak that makes speakers SOUND ALOT BETTER !
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 182 Registered: Aug-06 | Go to Wal-Mart and get some Kwik Seal kitchen&bath adhesive caulk and some teflon tape.....now put the adhesive caulk on the exterior and interior of the speaker's basket of the speaker driver....next cover it all with teflon tape....I did the same for the interior cut-out hole for the speaker drivers too...now let it dry over night and then put the speaker drivers back in and ENJOY! This tweak lowered the distortion alot and made the speakers much more transparent and three-dimensional ! This is a must try tweak!!! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9500 Registered: Dec-04 | Why was your kit displaying so much distortion, Randy? You might want to address that before applying toilet adhesives to an engineered product. |
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Silver Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 481 Registered: Feb-07 | Oh geez, here we go again. |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 184 Registered: Aug-06 | I put some more adhersive caulk over the teflon tape and everything sounds better now...sound best with adhersive caulk only@ Did you know that Westlake Audio puts adhersive caulk on all their speaker driver's baskets! If anyone here trys this tweak they will thank me over and over again. I'm amazed how good this tweak is! |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 185 Registered: Aug-06 | Someone on another forum posted about a New product called (AVM) Anti-Vibration Magic from http://www.accentusaudio.com used for dampening speaker drivers and other things.... |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 11996 Registered: Jun-06 | I'm confused. I don't see the white van anywhere on their website. |
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Gold Member Username: GavdawgUpstate, New York Post Number: 1015 Registered: Nov-06 | Actually, I have read this one... Steve over at decware recommends to DIYers to cover stamped steel baskets with a certain type of tape to control the distortion from the basket ringing. http://www.decware.com/newsite/mainmenu.htm?/zenspkr.htm&intro it is under "tweaking the drivers and cabinet" |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9507 Registered: Dec-04 | It's under buying stuff that doesn't friggin ring to start with, man. Randy enjoyed a lowering of his drastic distortion. |
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Gold Member Username: GavdawgUpstate, New York Post Number: 1018 Registered: Nov-06 | well...true. |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 5805 Registered: Feb-05 | If you can afford it....some folks don't have a bunch of money to drop on audio but want to listen to music. Ringing in my drivers ain't something I'm too worried about...I'm more concerned that Randy will get my address...lol! |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 186 Registered: Aug-06 | I took electrical tape and wraped it tightly around each steel strips of the basket two times and then wraped the electrical tape tighly with duck tape one time.....SOUNDS AMAZING!......... |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9541 Registered: Dec-04 | Is the distortion much lower now? |
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Silver Member Username: Nickelbut10Post Number: 944 Registered: Jun-07 | LOL!! Im sure glad this helps Randy, because all of our hi fi systems come with so much distortion...distortion is the norm...we better fix it..quickly...Can I use double sided tape? |
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Gold Member Username: GavdawgUpstate, New York Post Number: 1032 Registered: Nov-06 | I can't wait til Randy tells me to push the dustcaps in on my speakers because "everyone knows they sound better that way". oh wait... I have tweeters where the dustcaps normally are. I wonder if this matters. |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14159 Registered: Dec-03 | I think we should tell Randy that pushing in the dustcaps of your drivers by using a dime minted in 1976 will greatly improve the frequency response. I doubt he knows about that tweak! Amazing!!!! |
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Gold Member Username: GavdawgUpstate, New York Post Number: 1038 Registered: Nov-06 | what about removing the dustcaps completely and replacing them with the "clever little clock" think they'll replace my tweets as well? :-P |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14167 Registered: Dec-03 | I'm sure the results will be "AMAZING"!  |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9545 Registered: Dec-04 | Welcome back Berny. |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14169 Registered: Dec-03 | Thanks, Nuck! |
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Bronze Member Username: AudiobuffPost Number: 63 Registered: Jan-07 | Great to see you guys are still hard at work bashing people.... |
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Bronze Member Username: AudiobuffPost Number: 64 Registered: Jan-07 | Cant edit...oddd O well, i was just messing in the above post, i really cant see why it would be such a bad idea, i mean, if you dont have the funds for nicer audio this indeed could help a bit  Its nice to see you guys are still around! |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14172 Registered: Dec-03 | LOL1 I'm sure that some tweaks may work to a certain degree but not to the extent that Randy claims...e.g. "amazing, best ever, a must try, etc." He was, after all, a firm believer in the "amazing little clocks" tweak. |
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Bronze Member Username: AudiobuffPost Number: 66 Registered: Jan-07 | Uh, do tell? |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 187 Registered: Aug-06 | IT WORKS AMAZINGLY GOOD....JUST TRY IT FOR YOURSELF AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF!....TALK IS CHEAP!! THIS TWEAK IS AMAZING!...THE REAL DEAL! |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14179 Registered: Dec-03 | Amazing indeed! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9549 Registered: Dec-04 | I somehow believe, call me crazy here, that the designer would have wrapped the basket before installing it if the stunt increased the quality and profit margin. |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 193 Registered: Aug-06 | Crystal Clear contact enhancer $25 from www.thecablepro.com is amazing on the contacts of the speaker drivers and all crossover caps.....amazing on interconnects and speaker cables too. This product is for all NON-BELIEVERS in TWEAKS....you know those Clever Little Clocks and so on....... |
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Silver Member Username: DavidpaPortland, Oregon US Post Number: 518 Registered: Nov-05 | C'mon Nuck, all it has to do is rain! |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 197 Registered: Aug-06 | Here's another tweak I did to my DCM's...I put concrete on the front of the speaker drivers....mids and bass drivers. I took out the drivers and lightly coated each driver with concrete crack seal from home depot and let them dry for 24 hours. I'm not looking for any more speakers now!...................... |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 198 Registered: Aug-06 | You DO NOT put the concrete on the speaker drivers TOO THICK!! You ONLY put a VERY THIN COATING of CONCRETE on each midrange and bass drivers. The product is called Quikrete concrete crack seal from Home Depot |
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Silver Member Username: Uback007Columbus , Ohio USA Post Number: 299 Registered: Mar-06 | ok, the "White Van" comment above is downright hilarious! I do see some merit in what our audio brother is saying. Its all about resonance and cabinet vibrations- makes sense that this would calm an unruly speaker. |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14285 Registered: Dec-03 | "TOO THICK!! "....amazing! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9568 Registered: Dec-04 |  I, uhh... |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 1716 Registered: Oct-04 | ...ditto?  |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 200 Registered: Aug-06 | I found out that the stuff I put on my speaker cones IS NOT CONCRETE...its really a ACRYLIC POLYMER! http://www.quikrete.com/ProductLines/ConcreteCrackSeal.asp I really think the speaker cones is the WEAKEST LINK in a stereo system...and dampening the speaker cones with this stuff has been the best thing I have ever done in all the my years in this hobby!............ |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14509 Registered: Dec-03 | "best thing I have ever done"...not by a long shot. I'm sure your nest tweak will be the next best thing ever....amazing! |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 201 Registered: Aug-06 | No Berny..I'm done with "tweaking" now! You all don't know what your missing by NOT "DAMPENING your speaker cones"......This tweak gets you as close to LIVE MUSIC as I have ever heard period! Everything sounds soooo REAL...its very hard to stop listening to music now...it sounds that good. I know most of you don't like me here but I have come across something that has to be heard to be believed! |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14518 Registered: Dec-03 | " I know most of you don't like me here"  ...amazing! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9662 Registered: Dec-04 | " I know most of you don't like me here" Not true RW. Somebody has to be in left field. |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 202 Registered: Aug-06 | You mean "Right field"....I'm not CRAZY! You all are just upset because you don't have those clever little clocks in your stereo systems too....... |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14524 Registered: Dec-03 | Of course you are not crazy...calling you such would be futile. That's like screaming at a person with no ears. But he'd probably be able to hear better with clever little clocks attached to hearing aids... amazing! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9673 Registered: Dec-04 | I dipped my clever little clocks in concrete. It cleared up all that distortion. |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14527 Registered: Dec-03 | make that ACRYLIC POLYMER...  AMAZING! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9677 Registered: Dec-04 | Oh sorry Berny, I didn't even know what I was buying! |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 1773 Registered: Oct-04 | Anyone see the movie WHAT ABOUT BOB? |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9681 Registered: Dec-04 | I saw the poorn, 'What about Booob?' |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 1775 Registered: Oct-04 | Werre Bill Murray & Richard Dreyfuss in it? |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9686 Registered: Dec-04 | Not the one I saw, thankfully, LOL! |
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Gold Member Username: John_aLondonU.K. Post Number: 4788 Registered: Dec-03 | Randy, you're sharing what you've discovered. Thanks. You might want to address that before applying toilet adhesives to an engineered product. Nuck, I was reminded of a great section in "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" where the proud owner of a new BMW motorcycle discovered that its handle bars rotated in their brackets. His friend fixed the problem by inserting aluminium shims into the brackets to keep the handlebars fixed in place. The shims were cut from the tops of beer cans. The owner was nevertheless horrified, and vowed never to ride the motorcycle again. The bits of beer can had completely solved the problem, but destroyed his dream and illusion of a perfect machine. |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9699 Registered: Dec-04 | I remember it well, John. Again, if the dude bought a properly engineered and produced product, the can tops would not be necessary. Adds a bit to the 'beer budget' mentality. And yes, I get your point. Thank you, JA. Cheers. |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 203 Registered: Aug-06 | I'm NOT JOKING about this stuff! I think I'm on to something VERY SPECIAL here. Who know what they all they put in this Quikrete crack seal but this stuff sounds sooo DAMN GOOOOD ON MY SPEAKER CONES AFTER you let it settle-in for about 3 weeks. Just wait until the word gets out about this stuff!......................................... |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 6044 Registered: Feb-05 | Randy...please go to the system pics thread and post pics of your system. Let's find out if the pics come from your home, a magazine, a board room or a childs play room... Please join us and post your system pics! |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 1777 Registered: Oct-04 | I can't stand this anymore. Is there a way to unsubscribe from a thread? |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9706 Registered: Dec-04 | rubber room, romper room... |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1619 Registered: Jun-05 | |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14546 Registered: Dec-03 | "Who know what they all they put in this Quikrete crack seal" He really needs to seal his own crack. |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 204 Registered: Aug-06 | Very FUNNY GUYS When you put something on a speaker cone it lowers the resonance as well as to stifle break-up modes. I put this stuff on my car speaker cones too...... |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 1784 Registered: Oct-04 | Randy, have you ever considered a career as a speaker designer? |
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Bronze Member Username: LuxendelGondelsheim, Baden-Württe... Germany Post Number: 42 Registered: Oct-07 | I now use real rattle-snakes as speaker-cable, because they rattle much better now... |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 6069 Registered: Feb-05 | Randy...have you considered my earlier request... Let's see that system that just keeps getting better. I'm intrigued. |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 205 Registered: Aug-06 | Art....I don't have any way to post pictures right now...... |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 6070 Registered: Feb-05 | Don't have a digital camera and can't borrow one huh? Fair enough. I just figured for your sake, to add some legitimacy to your statements and to perhaps humanize you...it would be nice to see your digs and your system. Perhaps something to think about.... |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 206 Registered: Aug-06 | No Art.. none of my friends have a digital camera. Here's more on coating speaker cones....... http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=100399 |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 1785 Registered: Oct-04 | Randy, Do you have a cell phone camera? |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 207 Registered: Aug-06 | No... I do not have cell phone camera |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 6073 Registered: Feb-05 | Someone is not being honest...wonder who... |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 1787 Registered: Oct-04 | http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/whine/messages/1/11974.html http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ymisc&1200154292&openflup&56&4 http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?PHPSESSID=2qi00id4p045ldip09biqufel 0&topic=49901.0 ...you do get around Randy. |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 3290 Registered: Mar-06 | Wow Randy, What a great tip. Im not sure if this is the right type of cement, but it works fantastic. The diffrence is amazing. The driver sounded bright before, but now its more of a mono tone. Thanks for sharing. Getting ready to mix up the cement.  Adding Water.  Mixed up and set aside to dry.  Testing the cured cement woofer.  |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 208 Registered: Aug-06 | I have a thread on this over on the Audiokarma speaker forum too!....... |
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Silver Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 591 Registered: Feb-07 | SIMPLY AMAZING!!!!!!!! I see you're using mortar mix. Does it matter if I use portland cement? I still have some left in my shed from when I built my deck. |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 6074 Registered: Feb-05 | Don't remember seeing it at AK...probably ignored by most everyone. |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 209 Registered: Aug-06 | Art....I just put the Coating Speaker Cones thread over on audiokarma today |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 6075 Registered: Feb-05 | Well Randy as you can clearly see I found you over at AK where they are not buying your crap either. Gave you a chance to show you are for real...you lied...gettin' close to time for you to relinquish you membership don't ya think. Marc I love your demo...that should lower the cone resonance and cause cone/magnet equilibrium resulting in a more balanced sound don't you think!!! |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 210 Registered: Aug-06 | No Marc....thats not the same stuff I used. What I used has no concrete in it... http://www.quikrete.com/ProductLines/ConcreteCrackSeal.asp |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 12781 Registered: Jun-06 | Thank god for alcohol. I have so much fun here lol. |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 1788 Registered: Oct-04 | Am I the only one who feels bad for this guy? |
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Silver Member Username: SerniterPiscataway, New Jersey USA Post Number: 203 Registered: Mar-06 | I used to feel bad, but he seems to be here on some unknown purpose... |
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Silver Member Username: WattsssupBarrie, ON Canada Post Number: 211 Registered: Aug-06 | Great, my name is being used here too. |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 6077 Registered: Feb-05 | "Am I the only one who feels bad for this guy?" Yes! I used to and that's why I gave him an opportunity to show he is not just a store front. As you can clearly see...he didn't avail himself of it. Not that it would have proved anything it just would have been a nice good faith move...oh well. |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14578 Registered: Dec-03 | This is just bizarre! ...amazing! |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 6078 Registered: Feb-05 | Yeah... |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 211 Registered: Aug-06 | Art....your just upset that your not the guy that thought about this first! |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 6079 Registered: Feb-05 | True..... ! |
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Silver Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 592 Registered: Feb-07 | I used to kinda feel bad for the way people would knock him here (including me sometimes, in a harmless sort of way). Art gave him full opportunity to prove that he's the real thing and Randy declined to step up. AMAZING! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9710 Registered: Dec-04 | I... uhh...err... |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 212 Registered: Aug-06 | Well..I thought you all could learn something here.....I was wrong! I really feel bad for you all! Time to go...... |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 12792 Registered: Jun-06 | K. |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14581 Registered: Dec-03 | Promises, promises....AMAZING! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9715 Registered: Dec-04 | I learned that if you use a holesaw, some pebbles and glue, a circular saw, some plumbing supplies, a soldering gun, a bag of construction material and a 7-iron, you can DIY a speaker that one person really likes. |
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Silver Member Username: HifisoundguyPost Number: 213 Registered: Aug-06 | Yes...my friends want me to put some speakers on the market and thats what I'm going to do. Just think about it...one day your be able to hear speakers by Randy Warren! LATER!!.......... |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 14585 Registered: Dec-03 | You already wrote it's "time to go"....stop keeping our hopes up! AMAZING! |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 1790 Registered: Oct-04 | Randy, I'll tell you what, if you EVER put together a real speaker company, particularly one that markets a Quikrete sealant infused cone, I will be the first on line for an audition. Follow your dreams Randy, follow your dreams. |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9719 Registered: Dec-04 | RW, you need a camera to advertise a product. Start saving your pennies now. |
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Bronze Member Username: LamcamStanton, Ca Usa Post Number: 25 Registered: Nov-07 | LOL....I have to try his tips on my Dynaudio speakers... I have so much fun for reading this post....LOL... |
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New member Username: Dynaudiof140ZwolleThe Netherlands Post Number: 2 Registered: Feb-08 | Guys, Please leave DYNAUDIO out of this discussion. They might get some ideas! AMAZING  |
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Silver Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 634 Registered: Feb-07 | Die thread, die... |
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Bronze Member Username: James_lehmannPost Number: 45 Registered: Nov-06 | I filled my PMC's with cement exactly as Randy suggests and Marc demonstrated. As a test track I put on the Bill Laswell remix of Bob Marley's 'Exodus' which has enough bass to blow a hole in your wall even without the cement tweak. Sadly, that's exactly what happened - on the first bass note entry two cement projectiles (with the woofers still attached) shot across the room, straight through the rear wall and into the street below! Fortunately I hadn't 'toed-in' the PMC's or else I'm not sure I would be writing this to you now. I'm wondering if this may have voided my Warranty though? |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 13938 Registered: Jun-06 |  |
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Gold Member Username: Mike3Wylie, Tx USA Post Number: 1123 Registered: May-06 | Me too, ROTFLMAO. |
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Platinum Member Username: Project6Post Number: 15142 Registered: Dec-03 | File a lawsuit against Randy Warren for putting ideas in your head. He should be liable for that  |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 9814 Registered: Dec-04 | Just had to push this past 100 posts, huh Berny? |
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Silver Member Username: LuxendelGondelsheim, Baden-Württe... Germany Post Number: 115 Registered: Oct-07 | I put my two Arivas in two separate coffins, filled them up with liquid, neon ultra-bass-amplifier. Then I hung them vertically under the ceiling. Gosh, I could bang my head up there in bathroom. Its now a through-the-ceiling ultra-bass-amplified system. |
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Bronze Member Username: Hondafanatic17Thompsontown, PA USA Post Number: 21 Registered: Dec-07 | Ok this is a big joke this thread it can't be right who the hell coats speakers which already prolly sound good in concrete? This is a joke right? I mean is Randy all dumb and trying to make us ruin our speakers? |
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Silver Member Username: DmitchellOttawa, Ontario Canada Post Number: 694 Registered: Feb-07 | The speakers sounded good before, but with the concrete, they sound even better. More "solid". |
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