Athena Micra sub is weak?
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 127 Registered: Apr-06 | Hi, i have the Athena Micra 6's and the sub is fine up to a certain point. When i crank my system up the subwoofer falls weak and i can hear the speakers way over the subwoofer!! Is this just my Yamaha Htr-5930 receiver? or is it the Athena sub? and if it is the sub could you recommend any under $200 thanx  |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 4383 Registered: Feb-05 | This is about the least sub that I would recommend. It's a little over your stated budget but worth it. http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-1.html If you can stretch out the budget by a few more bucks this one is worth the difference. http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html And no it's not likely your reciever. |
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 128 Registered: Apr-06 | Thanks Art for those 2 products as of this moment they are slightly over my budget. The Stf-1 only has 8inch woofer! thats the same as my athena? or does the size not matter? and what about this sub: http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Monitor-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA Only question is does it have a lfe input? |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 4384 Registered: Feb-05 | Size does matter but not as much as quality. As I said those are the lowest price subs that I would recommend. Some folks swear by the Dayton subs at Parts Express. You may want to check them out. http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=300-635 |
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 129 Registered: Apr-06 | The problem with me is i am very style concise I like the look of this sub http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000FBPH9I But if its no better then i guess ill settle for the Dayton 12" for only $148 not bad! |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 4385 Registered: Feb-05 | It's not very likely better than the Dayton and certainly not as good as the Hsu subs. |
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 130 Registered: Apr-06 | Hmmm anybody have any thoughts on the jbl? |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 4393 Registered: Feb-05 | JBL's budget subs have in the past not been very good. But if you're buying for looks then by all means, I wouldn't want poor quality to get in the way. Enjoy... |
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 131 Registered: Apr-06 | Yeh you're probably rite, but there more in my budget, how about this MTX sub: http://www.amazon.com/MTX-12-Subwoofer-SW2/dp/B00017P28C anybody nowhere i can get this sub cheaper possibly with free shipping? |
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 132 Registered: Apr-06 | How about the Polk Audio PSW10 i found a great deal on it!! Is it louder than my current sub? Is it clearer (less muddiness)? And how would i plug it in if it doesn't have an lfe output? |
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New member Username: 008Post Number: 9 Registered: Mar-06 | finally I just posted about the PSW10, I am curious to know the quality. What's your good deal on the PSW10? thanks |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 4400 Registered: Feb-05 | I'm glad you two hooked up.... |
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New member Username: 008Post Number: 10 Registered: Mar-06 | Art, is PSW10 a reasonable sub for the price? This is for gift purpose to pair with Athena Point 5. I am using a STF1 myself. |
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 133 Registered: Apr-06 | Well i found the Polk on Ebay.com for $120 buy it now! not bad if u ask me But like 008 i too am interested in the quality of the Polk, any thoughts? |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 4401 Registered: Feb-05 | I've not listened to it but suffice it to say that you usually get what you pay for. 008 your STF is going to be a lot better sub than the Polk. It may not go very low but it delivers the low frequencies that it can much more precisely than your average budget sub. Better off selling the STF1 and buying an STF2. What's the matter guys ain't the Hsu subs pretty enough. |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 6499 Registered: Dec-04 | I want a Miaaaaaata. |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 6500 Registered: Dec-04 | Insert your own nasally inflection here. |
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Silver Member Username: DavidpaPortland, Oregon US Post Number: 418 Registered: Nov-05 | Just an idea. Try different crossover points, or where your sub is located before you go spend another 200.00 which may do the same thing. Could be your running into some cancellation at certain Hz, 40hz seems to be a popular number for a nasty room node, I've spent countless hours getting my sub(s) dialed in, and actually spent some time on the phone w/ Mike Kelly, the designer of one of my subs, and after getting to know his product a bit better, I was able to solve the problem. One thing I might suggest as well, is this, most people, and I say most because that seems to be the norm, turn their sub volume WAY too high. This will also contribute to a cancellation as volume of your main speakers rise. Why exactly, I dont know, but someone here on the forum may be able to answer better. I just dont see 200. bucks getting the job done? BUT, I have been wrong before. |
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Silver Member Username: DavidpaPortland, Oregon US Post Number: 419 Registered: Nov-05 | And, you may find the solution isnt another sub, but a better integrated one. |
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 134 Registered: Apr-06 | Well When i first purchased my Athena system i had the subwoofer placed right next to the tv. Later tho i found when i sit at my computer the thing sounds like a tin can lol!! so i moved it about 3feet next to my sofa instaed an boom way better. The only problem is it still cant keep up with the speakers. David pannell not quite sure what you mean by turning the subwoofer down then i cant here it! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 6504 Registered: Dec-04 | Koop, that's kinda the point. You should not hear the sub, just the integration of the bass with the other speakers. By turning it up, with say a 40hz bloom, you may create cancelling waves (particularly in a square room). Bad room! By moving the sub and lowering the volume, you might be able to find the best spot for integration, as opposed to a bass loud spot of attention. Cancelling waves may take away the bass effect, and in fact, become worse with more volume. |
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 135 Registered: Apr-06 | But i like my bass nice and high, high enough to give some rumble! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 6505 Registered: Dec-04 | Then the HSU stf2 sub might be right up your alley. |
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 136 Registered: Apr-06 | Nah m8 too expensive, I'm in school and i have very little experience with Subwoofers and receivers!! and all that stuff, but something that sounds clearer, louder and wont be struggling to keep up is fine for me. I'm thinking the Dayton sub 120 12" looks bad but, it sounds good, apparently? |
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Silver Member Username: DavidpaPortland, Oregon US Post Number: 420 Registered: Nov-05 | Look into NHT used also. Pretty decent designs, will play loud, and are fairly musical to boot. |
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Bronze Member Username: LeonskiPost Number: 59 Registered: Jan-07 | Why am I even THINKING of a DIY sub? Am I nuts? A pair of the STF-1s for a half a yard? No standing wave problems with a pair! Musical and good for HT. I've heard some cheap-o subs and the HSU's rule. |
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Bronze Member Username: LeonskiPost Number: 62 Registered: Jan-07 | For help in Sub location, Google 'room mode calculator'. This is good for regular, square/rectangular cubic rooms. It will spit out a series of resonant frequencies for 1,2 or 3 'bounces' Same/similar numbers are nodes. Odd rooms are problematic (vaulted ceilings/ odd angles.) From simply a Mathmatical viewpoint, a room designed in 'phi' proportions is near-ideal. An 8foot ceiling results in about a 13x21 foot space and will have few killer nodes below 300hz. After reading the White Papers on the HK (Harmon Kardon, NOT HongKong) website, I have concluded that I will be better off with a PAIR of 500$ HSU's rather than a single KiloBuck unit from anybody. fewer standing wave / node problems. I have heard one nutty sounding solution to sub placement.....Put the sub WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO SIT> Move around till you find good bass...Than put the sub there.....Midwall is usually a no-no. The 1/3 2/3 rule may be good. |
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Gold Member Username: Arande2Extreme SQ FTW Post Number: 2142 Registered: Dec-06 | Yeah I did that thing with the sub in the chair and it worked pretty well. I blew it 2 weeks later though. |
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Silver Member Username: Silas92Post Number: 137 Registered: Apr-06 | I do like the look of the HSU subs but as of this moment they are out of my price range! it costs more than my receiver lol |
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Silver Member Username: GavdawgUpstate, New York Post Number: 600 Registered: Nov-06 | silas, have you ever looked at the Autofellatio Audio BJ lineup? They are right up your alley! |
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Gold Member Username: NuckPost Number: 6836 Registered: Dec-04 | Gavin, you are not helping the greater good here. |
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Silver Member Username: GavdawgUpstate, New York Post Number: 721 Registered: Nov-06 | I know, I know...lol :0 some part of me just couldn't resist... |
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