Advice for $500 sub

Arkimus New member Username: Arkimus Post Number: 1 Registered: Mar-06	Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 17:38 GMT I have been looking at the Mirage S12, Hsu VTF-2, Velodyne DPS 12 or B&W ASW650 ($500 from friend) for my HT sub. Any advice on which one is a better choice in build and sound quality? Thanks.
Bill Baskin New member Username: Bbaskin South of Houston, Texas Post Number: 3 Registered: Mar-06	Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 20:59 GMT Have looked at the svs pb10 it may only be a 10" but it out performs most 12". Have you tried researching these subs on the avs forum, it is a great forum for reseaching.
Berny Gold Member Username: Project6 Post Number: 7157 Registered: Dec-03	Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 05:52 GMT The subs you mentioned are all built quite nicely and quality is top notch. Sound quality however is a totally subjective matter and totally dependent on the individual's ears. You cannot go wrong with any of the choices you have mentioned above, the only thing that should sway you are your preferences. Only you can determine that.
Arkimus New member Username: Arkimus Post Number: 2 Registered: Mar-06	Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 14:56 GMT Thanks, Bill. I will look into the AVS forum for some more information on these subs. Berny, thanks for your help. I'm glad build quality is not a factor.
andrew keller Bronze Member Username: Kinggimp82 Post Number: 39 Registered: May-05	Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 21:04 GMT just for ur info the hsu stf-2 performs like the Hsu VTF-2 in max extension mode. you will probably never use the max output mode. especially if ur use is for HT. I own a stf-2 and love it. and ull save $100.00 the svs pb10 is another good sub. its not as musical as the stf-2 but goes lower. for strictly HT id go with the svs pb10. if you listen to alot of music too id go with the hsu stf-2.
Jan Vigne Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne Dallas, TX Post Number: 8371 Registered: May-04	Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 21:42 GMT http://www.us.alegriaaudio.com/Tom%20Subwoofer.htm
Andy Summers Gold Member Username: Thx_3417 Post Number: 1441 Registered: May-05	Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 07:09 GMT Jan I happened to notice the edge surround on the sub bass units driver, was foam!
Jan Vigne Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne Dallas, TX Post Number: 8382 Registered: May-04	Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 14:37 GMT And?
Andy Summers Gold Member Username: Thx_3417 Post Number: 1443 Registered: May-05	Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 18:42 GMT What do you mean And? I thought you where someone that can think? Well come on we both know foam rots with a few years time, due to the air and temperature differences.
Jan Vigne Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne Dallas, TX Post Number: 8388 Registered: May-04	Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 19:37 GMT A few years? Even in foggy old London, I think you can stretch that projection a bit; don't you? How do you know today's foam surrounds react the same way foam surrounds from the 1970's did? Materials are better and the chance of rot is minimized in today's drivers. Foam has decided benefits in some ways over rubber surrounds. That's why it was used in the first place. You seem to be looking at one thing and assuming everything is equal. It's not. Hifi is scary stuff, Andy, it's not meant for the weak of heart. If the thought of your foam surrounds potentially rotting away scares you too much, don't buy this sub. Otherwise, the recommendation stands since this should be a dynamite sounding product for very little money compared to the more commercial competition. If you have questions about the sub, call the manufacturer.
Gavin R. Cumm Gold Member Username: Gavincumm New York USA Post Number: 1063 Registered: Feb-05	Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 21:40 GMT its not like the foam that is used in the surround in that sub is the same grade that is used in what you would find in Bose or KLH.
Andy Summers Gold Member Username: Thx_3417 Post Number: 1445 Registered: May-05	Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 07:27 GMT Jan I'm not knocking it, it's when you hear one horror story about foam and another and another, you start to investigate it, thou I'm sure the edge foam surround on that is high numbers. As for my sub bass it's not foam surround. Anyway I'm sure it will work out fine for the unbelievable cost that it's going for.
Andy Summers Gold Member Username: Thx_3417 Post Number: 1446 Registered: May-05	Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 07:30 GMT As for other make, I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot barge pole!
Rick Zmiejko Silver Member Username: Twebbz Oakland Park, Florida USA Post Number: 400 Registered: Apr-04	Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 01:49 GMT Oye!..Foam surrounds...Twice bitten third time shy. I could tell you about my 80's Large Advent bass drivers...disintegrated surrounds after the first ten years. The surrounds of the next set of woofers, at $100 a pop (mid 90's vintage) separated from their cones after ten years. Foam? No Thanks.
Steven Burke Bronze Member Username: Dobyblue St. Catharines, Ontario Canada Post Number: 68 Registered: Oct-05	Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 16:46 GMT Would the Paradigm PW2200 v.2 be a good pick up for less than US$500?
Gavin R. Cumm Gold Member Username: Gavincumm New York USA Post Number: 1122 Registered: Feb-05	Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 21:30 GMT they are quite boomy to my ears. I believe you can do better for that price.

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