Archive through October 18, 2005
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New member Username: Bs_fanaticPost Number: 5 Registered: Oct-04 | ok, what should i get to improve the picture on my moniter while i am gaming or use advanced programs(mostly gaming)? I would like the ganme to run under the best quality and the best pereformance, in other wordds i would like to haev it set to best performance but have a video card thats good enough to make it look like it is on best graphics! Please help?! |
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Damien Rob. Unregistered guest | Anything on the higher end of ATI RADEON or NVIDIA is great, how much you want to spend on a grafx card and what your hardware limitations are is another... |
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New member Username: Bs_fanaticPost Number: 8 Registered: Oct-04 | how can i improve my hardware limitations? The budget i have is less then 1k that i can spend on upgrading my computer. It would also help if u could piont me twords a place that will install it for me also! |
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Silver Member Username: DeathshadowPost Number: 192 Registered: Oct-04 | Well first I should start off by asking you these few questions: *What is your clock/CPU speed (MHz/GHz)? *How much RAM (memory) do you have? *How old is the PC/do you have an AGP slot? *What are you looking for/what is your expected outcome goal? You can go very far with a grand actually, here is an example. For 1k I could build the following PC: - Intel Pentium 4 3.0 GHz Processor - Intel Desktop Board - 1 Gigabyte of Kingston Heatsinked DDR RAM - DVD Burner - CD/RW Burner - Floppy drive - 200 Gig 7,200 RPM HDD - Aluminum case with 500 Watt PS. - Cold Cathode internal lighting - Vantec High Flow Tornado cooling fans - Cooler Master Jet Engine CPU cooler - Cooler Master Muskeeter Temperature, db level, and RPM adjuster/monitors. - 10/100/1000 Ethernet - Intel Extreme Graphics card & Sound That is just to show you how far your $1,000.00 can go; that same PC would be retailed at $2,600.00 and up. If you JUST want to replace your grafx card with a kick @ss one you will need a high flow fan, some RAM, and the grafx card for optimum performance. That stuff depending on who you get it from should run you about $650.00 for the best of the best. Personally I rather sit here and tell you how to install it yourself then have you go to best buy/Circuit City to get ripped off and have a crappy job done. |
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ste the great Unregistered guest | have i been riped of i swap a radeon 9600se four a geforce 3 ti 200 64meg im not sure about cards and have little money is this good enough four online gameing |
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STE THE GREAT Unregistered guest | IVE JUST ASKED ABOUT THE RADEON 9600SE AND GFORCE 3 TI AND NOW IVE GOT A GFORCE FX 5200 IS THIS ANY BETTER THAN THEM AND IF ITS OK FOUR ONLINE GAMEING SUCH AS COUNTER STRIKE SOURCE THANK YOU ANY ONE CAN U HELP AS IVE NO MONEY TO KEEP GETTING CARDS |
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Bronze Member Username: TerminatermuleAustralia Post Number: 65 Registered: Nov-04 | Yep you got ripped |
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STETHEGREAT Unregistered guest | THANKS MOOREY WHAT ABOUT THE GFORCE FX 5200 WILL THAT BE ANY GOOD FOUR COUNTER STRIKE SOURCE U SEE IVE NOT GOT ANY MORE MONEY THIS YEAR TO BUY ONE NEXTED YEAR I WILL BE A MUCH MORE POWERFULL ONE BUT WILL THIS BE GOOD FOUR TIMEBEING OR WHAT CARDS ARE OUT THERE ABOUT THE SAME PRICE THANKS |
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A.S. Mexican Homie Unregistered guest | ive got 80 dollars and im looking for a good graphics card can anyone recomend me to any. |
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A.S. Mexican Homie Unregistered guest | ive got 80 dollars and im looking for a good graphics card can anyone recomend me to any. |
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Juvenile23 Unregistered guest | i would suggest goin on ebay, u'll be lucky to get 1 4 80 bucks, but its worth a try. u should be able to get a 9600 ati for dat amount. its a good card for counter strike etc... |
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Unregistered guest | I want to know what graphic card would be best for me to improve my Fps on counter strike and counter strike source / Half-life 2. I currently have a Geforce 4 MX 440 .64meg. what would be able to improve my fps from 60 fps to 100 fps and give me better quality of my picture please email me with your answers the__stalker__is__here@hotmail.com all help will be very much appreciated i have $300 to spend |
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New member Username: Nytr0Post Number: 1 Registered: May-05 | Hi 4 aLL Gamer'z I just bought an ATI Radeon 9250 Graphic Card and when i play Counter-Strike i still don`t have 100 fps. , but the image is really clear and stuff like that .. but u kno` it frames because the fps. PS : I have 256 Ram's on my comp .. should that be a problem !! PLEASE HELP I'M GOING CRAZZY HERE !!!  (( |
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Bronze Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 49 Registered: May-05 | Hey you wont get 100 fps with a 9250. I can guarantee that if you have everything stock. No low fps skins. I run over 160 fps on css in the video stress test. Dont check it on 1.6 with net stat. Use video stress test. Very accurate. Ill bet anyone they cant beat my record of 179 fps on source at 1280 res while playing musin on windows media player  . Try it. |
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New member Username: Tonio35Post Number: 2 Registered: May-05 | I have a geforce mx 4000 128mb, I wanted to know if yall think it is a good card or not? |
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Ferg Unregistered guest | OK, I think im gonna buy halflife2/counterstrike source cause i just love the first two games. Getting to the point would a ATI Radeon 9200 do for these games? I found a great deal for one of those on the web. Thats all. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 168 Registered: May-05 | All depends on your cpu and ram as well. Hl2 requires min of 512 mb ram. A fast processor also. Amd 2800+ 64 athalon and up. If you have say a 3000+ 64 amd id say yes it would be ok. But if you have a slower comp more video card is needed. But remember dont go out and get a 6800ultra is you have a slow comp. Wont gain that much. Its a combination of things you need to play good games like hl2. Unless you want grafix runnin at min, 640 res and still laggin. Lol ive seen people playing like that. I guess it all depends on how bad u want to play the game lol. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 169 Registered: May-05 | oh and to run hl2 maxed. It takes a min of 3500+ cpu, 1 gig ram, 6800ultra video card. like i said 179 fps. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 170 Registered: May-05 | oh and must i say if you are redoing your whole comp, sli setup. You dont even need both cards at start. When you save more money get a 2nd card. Oh and has to be nvidia 6 series sli compatible. No other cards work in sli. And people who say ati makes sli are mistaken. Its nvidias patent. not ati. |
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Ferg Unregistered guest | Thanks man but I dont know anything about computers. But do you think a Dell Dimesion Destop Xp that is a couple years old would work with the Radeon 9200? |
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Ferg Unregistered guest | Spelled Desktop wrong..... |
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Anonymous | "Hey you wont get 100 fps with a 9250." ------------------------------------------------- WRONG !!!! I JUST BOUGHT A RADEON 9250 256 MB AND I KEEP 90-100 FPS ON COUNTER STRIKE AT ALL TIMES ON ANY SERVER! THE RADEON 9250 IS A GOOD CHOICE! |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 172 Registered: May-05 | 256 bro. think before you speak. I was talking about the 128. The 128 and 256 are 2 different cards. And its probably in cs not css. |
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Eagle Unregistered guest | NO that Comps sucks for $1000! Now i made my comp for $900 - Intel Pentium 4 with HT 4.0 GHz Processor - Intel Desktop Board - 2 Gigabyte DDR RAM - DVD/CD/RW Burner - DvD Reader - Floppy drive - 400 Gig 7,200 RPM HDD - Aluminum case with 500 Watt PS. - Cold Cathode internal lighting - 2 High Flow Tornado cooling fans - Cooler Master Jet Engine CPU cooler - Cooler Master Muskeeter Temperature, db level, and RPM adjuster/monitors. - 10/100/1000 Ethernet and a 801G wireless card - Sony card & Sound/ with a another NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT card |
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Roguemaster Unregistered guest | I just wondered if this PC is good for playing WoW- http://www.elkjop.no/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/store-elkjop-Site/no_NO/-/NOK /El_DisplayProductInformation-Start;pgid=bVZsy0IMnt0000E4VzBJQEe_0000k4wwXeQp?ProductID=KEvD4QFWW28AAAED%2eqqtBDp6& CatalogCategoryID=PbrD4QFW%2eBEAAAEDd9ytBDZr&filename=productpage_text%2cproduct type_text%2cprodtypes_vartypes_text&windowtitle=ADVENT%20T9003 It's in norwegian, but you'll understand some of it, I think :p |
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Roguemaster Unregistered guest | Can't get that link working, but anyway - it has that RADEON 9250 256 MB graphics card. |
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Unregistered guest | With a drive running with 128 gig will a extreme g-card 2 work well with say doom3 cs 1.6? |
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cb Unregistered guest | nvm i already bought but with Integrated graphics with media accelorator 900 for dell run cs 1.6 source half life 2 doom world of warcraft? 512 ram 128g mem Pentium 4 @ 3.0 533 FSB |
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cb Unregistered guest | Do i need a ram up maybe g-card ? if i need card should i get Geforce 6800 or rad 9800? what's the better bang? |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 133 Registered: Jan-05 | cb. If I was you just save youre money and get a geforce 6600gt. They're a lot cheaper and the 6800 i think and extremely close to the same performance. |
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cb Unregistered guest | I looked and saw the price for 6800 would cost $400 or a 6600 would cost $200 (us) I have 300 right now I want the best performance I can get is there much difference between the two cards? should I wait till i get 100 more and get the 6800 or get the 6600 now? |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 139 Registered: Jan-05 | I suggested the 6600 GT the 'GT' makes a lot of difference. The GT is cheaper than the 6800 and is in some ways better. In others, obviously not. The 6600gt has a core speed of 500mhz and a memory speed of 1000 whilst the 6800 has a core of 325 and a memory of 700. The memory speed is much more significant as this is what determines noticable 'true' fps increase. The pixel pipelines of the 6600gt is 8 whereas the 6800 is 12. The 256bit architeture of the 6800 which the 6600gt doesn't have is argued a lot to whether or not its an advantage. Depends if the extra money is what you want to save up. Likewise with the 6800GT. Again performance improves. Other aspects I havn't mentioned include the pixel fill rate and memory bandwith. These are very important. When buying a card, consider that 256mb doesn't always mean better. Usually the core and clock speeds are lowered as opposed to a 128mb card as someone has previously mentioned. If your playing things like half life 2, then these cards will EASILY handle pixel shading etc. If your one for overclocking, then definately save the money and get a 6600gt rather than the 6800 if its significantly cheaper. The 6600gt overclocks very very well and with some games, will out perform the 6800. Depends how much antialising you use. If your familiar with 3dmark software with the 03 version, the 6600gt will score about 8000 at 1024x768 screen resolution. The 6800 about 9500. Again like I said its up to you if saving up is something your willing to do. All these somewhat noticably higher spec of one card may seem a lot, but its actually whats noticable. Games can only have a certain amount of realism and its only when you've got the best quality that benchmarking obsessives pay £200 more for a graphics card that has no noticeable gameplay difference. As games become more advanced then graphics card will be showing more potential. Take for example NVIDIA take on the SLI technology. This will be effective only if you have a bigger screen in my opinion. 2 graphics cards, but if you look at ps3 graphics, they're just like pc graphics. Soon enough pc gaming will be phased out and dedicated consoles will take over gaming completely. How about talk about to your mate, the latest graphics card you got for your playstation four!! One last thing. Doom 3, the supposed benchmark game of them all. The radeon x800, costing a bomb. The 6600gt has pretty much the same performance as the x800 when playing the game. Hope this has been an insite to grahics cards as a whole. The longest thread I've ever done. O ye, and make sure your card is a pciexpress! |
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zx Unregistered guest | yea jelvis is rite. sli is only significantly better if you are using a large screen. at the standard level 1024x 768 pixels, theres not much difference between 1gpu and 2. |
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anonymous poster Unregistered guest | btw, Tim, about the sli, ATI is coming out with sli so you should check the facts before you post. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 186 Registered: May-05 | Actually ati is NOT comming out with sli. Sli is nvidias patent. Ati will make a comparable solution, but, it wont be with the sli name. (This info came from nvidia. so its correct) |
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Checkmate Unregistered guest | En guard! What you said "No other cards work in sli. And people who say ati makes sli are mistaken." SLI means scalable link interface (it links two cards together). ATI's version will be called Multi Rendering, same thing. It links two cards together, actually even without a physical link between them. So actually there are other cards that will work linked together. Touche! |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 187 Registered: May-05 | OMFG thank you checkmate, bout time someone replys with a good comment. Werd bro. |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 140 Registered: Jan-05 | Lol, maybe checkmate is anonymous |
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New member Username: RitchdoggSC USA Post Number: 4 Registered: Jun-05 | El O El |
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New member Username: RitchdoggSC USA Post Number: 5 Registered: Jun-05 | I enjoy reading these posts, some are hallarious. You ppl just come right out and say sh!t like; "yea you got ripped off" LoL and the arguments Tim puts out. I mean wow, this sh!t makes my day...thanks guys! |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 188 Registered: May-05 | lamo |
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HAHAHAHAHHA Unregistered guest | Holy sh*t u guys spend way to much money on video cards to play some 30 dollar games....u guys need some more hobies like f*ck man theres a lot more stuff u can do with that money like sh*t go buy a HOOKER!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......GEEKS |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 164 Registered: Jan-05 | Why would someone like you 'haha' actually look at a forum like this? If you thought it was stupid then why did you bother, obviously you have a lack of things to do. Go to your action man forums and see the respect you get from them. At least we have hobbies that mean something and no....we dont all spend £300 on graphics cards. Im getting mine and Im sure many other people do with their computer..its called oem. In other words bulk buy and save!! So next time you want something to say, think whos the geek who has no life and is sad enough to critisise people talking in a forums specifically designed to discuss these kind of things. Now why dont you...f off, jigalo!! Just to let you know..i dont spend all of my money on graphics cards. I like and buy technology on a whole. Go back to the bronze age and try having fun... |
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New member Username: JoshockeyPost Number: 9 Registered: Jun-05 | i agree with jelvis stupid asfucks like hahahah can go suck off someone sideways. to me its obvious you have no life comeing to a forum to criticize others hobbies. if f__king h__kers is your thing well when you contract stds and die well see who s laughing and critizing. |
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New member Username: JoshockeyPost Number: 10 Registered: Jun-05 | obviously your to chicken to to register your name hahahahaha your a punk but your a wussy to so step up. |
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Burn**it Unregistered guest | is there anything i can do my pc is p4 with 2.0ghz cpu 512mb ram and a ati radeon 9250 128 meg graphics card..... is this setup good enough it seems to be ****!!! need for speed underground 2 only just runs and some parts of the game run slow even with lowest settings!!! same with a few other games. sigh is there anyway to boost the performance?? |
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Bronze Member Username: Arrow224Post Number: 75 Registered: Mar-05 | Burn**it: It is your graphics card. It is low end - ie crap. Get a 9550 or x700 if you want ATI, or a 5700 or 6600GT if you want Nvidia. |
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Docc Unregistered guest | I'm wondering what seems to keep my fps down in CS:S. I've got an ASUS Radeon 9600 overclocked at 420 core and 300 memory with the AA/AF off and running at 1024 resolution. Still, whenever there's alot of action onscreen, the fps gets extremely laggy. My CPU is a Celeron 2.6GHz and I'm running 768 MB RAM. Would upgrading this to a P4 2.8 533FSB make a big difference? I'd like to save the $200 if possible. |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 171 Registered: Jan-05 | Hey Docc. I play counterstrike source a lot, its a great game! Your radeon is a half decent card and should play cs reasonably, but u said the memory is 300..thats a little lower than I'd have thought. Unless its not the driver frequency your on about? In my opinion celerons arn't good..id hate to have one. Maybe a new processor would be good, but personally if you can get an amd. The speeds you've overclocked to dont make sense to me though. The core is higher than the memory. My memory clock is twice the core. If you already havn't done so, them try simple things like defragementing your computer and deleting anything you dont need on your hard drive including completed games you know you'll never play again. I did this to my mates computer because hes a bit stupid with these things and it improved the speed dramatically! But he hadn't ever defraged his pc in 2 years. Im guessing you've already done this though since uve oc'd ure card. Id put the resolution down to 800x600, do you really notice a difference with 1024x(number). |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 197 Registered: May-05 | Ummm jelvis. U do know the difference between cs and css rite. Maybe now. Css needs a beefy card and alot of memory. I would never run 800 by 600 especially if you have an lcd monitor. Since you cant adjust resolution on an lcd monitor, it will stretch and in some cases shrink pixel size. This is not also terrible to do, but it will vastly effect game play. Since the screen dimensions are out of wack to make the lower res. And driver frequency? wtf. drivers are software. It is software that make hardware run. No frequency since its software. O and celerons. U r mistaken bro. Theres atleast 20 different celeron cpus on the market that will school a vast amount of amd cpu's. people that say intel is better or amd is better... well all i say is thats an opinion. NOT A FACT! amd and intel are both awsome companies. In my opinion they are better than say via cpu's. But when it comes down to it, neither amd nor intel have an advantage. Intel had ht technology. Which imulates a dual core chip. (which no dual core is available to public, so ht is closest to dual core for now). This not only runs better on tons of apps than amd but also runs faster. (with SOME programs.) Amd on the other hand has the 64 bit. Which does not a damn thing rite now. (even if you have xp 64 bit os u wont see any major gains in performance.) until software takes advantage of the 64 bit it wont make that big of a performance boost. Now when i said amd and intel are even, well this is tru to the point of the fx-55. there isnt a faster cpu on the market today than the fx55cpu. Period. (Maximum PC tests, AMD spec, Intel Specs all show it). Even though u made some good points jelvis some things need to be a lil more accurate. oh and to docc, oc dosent automatically mean u will get a boost in performance. Your cpu, ram etc all effect it. If u have a fast vid on a slower cpu, its like haveing an average (if that) setup. If you want to play css with no lag, on high settings i reccommend a min of a 6800 or 6800 ultra card with a 3200+ or higher cpu. (some people can play maxed with less but their fps dosent show ne thing good.) Also css has alot to do with Commands. If you want css to run good you will need to find all the video commands, like the bob commands. (illegal in leagues). Even with a blazing fast comp, your cs still needs to be configed rite. If its not, whats the point in having a good setup for css. Commands are just as important. Just like netcode and css. Without netcode css would suck. Try it. Turn netcode off. See what a huge difference it makes on the game. It shows how big an impact commands make on the game. And io kno i typed a shitload. bu o well. dont complain about it cuz i did. LOl too bad. O and to jelvis again from an earlier post. I kno i criticize peoopel. o well its what i do. And yes i have a life. GenoDigitalEditing.com. Dont think just cuz someone is hardcore into computers they dont have a life. I prolly get more pus than u do. so once again. think before u speak. ty |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 198 Registered: May-05 | HAHAHA that sh!t was long. Lamo. well maybe i do have too much free time. lol. o well. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 199 Registered: May-05 | and hahahahaha I AM A GEEK. DAMN PROUD OF IT. GEEKS MAKE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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Bronze Member Username: JoshockeyPost Number: 13 Registered: Jun-05 | yeah hahahaha is too much of a puss to post anything |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 200 Registered: May-05 | oh and doc, maps on css greately effect fps. If your playing a small map, lets say fy_iceworld_css u will lag more. the new de_inferno for css is the most fps intensive map. So not only is it commands and such, maps also greatly effect fps. I dont know why i didnt post this earlier, guess i was too busy with calc 4 homework. |
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Silver Member Username: IlluminatorPost Number: 989 Registered: Apr-05 | Tim, do you have an instant messenger? |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 201 Registered: May-05 | oakenstylez on aim |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 172 Registered: Jan-05 | Hey Tim. I guess your right about the resolution, i tried 1024x768 and its actually quiet a bit better and im using an lcd screen. There is such a thing as driver frequency, its also known as driver level. This is what a lot of people refer to when overclocking their card. I dont know why its called that? I agree with the Intel vs Amd argument..there is no better manufacturer, they're both extremely good, I personally dont like Celerons. 64 bit is the future..we all know it, its not taken full advantage of yet but will do! I was under the impression that the fx57 was the fastest single core processor. You said u recommend at least a 6800 to play without lag...i disagree, i have a 6600gt and it plays with no lag on highest settings. Tim you sure like to ball on about computers..but i gotta say they're the best thing to ball on about ;) |
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Unregistered guest | i hav around $130-140 (DOllars)which graphic card will be the best to increase the fps in cs1.6 to 100 fps or soo... plzzz help me out. I hav p4 ,512 ram. |
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Unregistered guest | i hav around $130-140 (DOllars)which graphic card will be the best to increase the fps in cs1.6 to 100 fps or soo... plzzz help me out. |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 173 Registered: Jan-05 | Maybe you could try getting a geforce 6600 or a geforce 6200. My 6600gt is usually anywhere between 60-120fps, mostly 80fps. Thats on counterstrike source. |
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RAAAAAAAR Unregistered guest | For FUCKS SAKE fella's, just go and read a fricking review before embaressing yourselves by posting 'Is the MXX 440 64mb going to get me 1480 fps in HL2?'.Ever heard of RESEARCH? Ever heard of GOOGLE? Nobody here was randomly magically born with some crazy knowledge, so go and find out for yourselves, then maybe your spelling will improve and you'll realise that it wasn't Intel that came up with HT, it was APPLE in the G series. So tell me, why does Intel get credit for HT, seeing as AMD has EXACTLY the same thing, just Called Hyper Transport, infact, I bet you don't even know what the whole HT thing is! Also, while I'm at it, what's that about not seeing a performance gain with the 64 bit cpu's? They're the best cpu's on the market dumbass, what with the inbuilt Memory Controller and all :|. Also matey ho, I think you'll find DUAL CORE has been out for AT LEAST a month  . Oh yes, someone's a bit behind maybe? I believe you when you say you've got a life, because you blatantly don't know what you're chattin' about. Oh dear oh dear, is this the sort of people that call themselves geeks nowadays? Pathetic attempt. Kiss kiss. |
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himanshu Unregistered guest | which is the cheapest graphic card which gives 70-80 fps plzzzzzzzz HELP ME OUT>>>>>>>>>> |
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Magniitude Unregistered guest | Hey guys you seem to know a lot about this stuff so i gotta ask some questions: My current computer is: 256 mb 9600 XT 1.7 GHZ proc 256 pc-133 sdram I know its ancient crap but what should i average for fps on CSS at lowest settings and resolution? I seem to get around 20-40 fps average. My dads computer is a 2.66 ghz 512 RAM, but an integrated 64mb video card (dell) Since its a outdated comp, it doesnt have an agp slot or pci-e, so whats the best alternative for a pci card i can get for it? I want to be able to run CSS on that comp at about medium settings, without the crazy lag and chugging on mine. Thanks for your help. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 236 Registered: May-05 | rarrrrrrrrrrrr what are you talking about. noone did. I get a solid fps, but yet i also have over a grand in my video card setup alone now. So shhhhhhhhhh rarrrrrrrrrr. and Magniitude it wont work bro. You need agp at a minimum to even get somewhat decent fps on css. No built in cards, 512 ram wont cut it either. 1 gig, . check your setup, needs to be alot faster to play css. Cs shall be fine for you, but anything curremt, hl2, d3, far cry, bf2, etc u will need agp at a minimun, even agp now is almost not enuf for newer games out. |
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Unregistered guest | Hi all can someon help me ... pls I have Pent. 3.2 GHz (2 Mb Cache) 512 RAM PC2-4200 533 MHz Geforce 6600 GT And a NEC 17" (run on 75 Hz vert sync. on) I cant seem to get more than 60 Fps on CS 1.6 (it stays on 60 all the time ... it doesnt go over neither does it drop ever) I play on 1280 res and all the settings are default. This is really weird because with source stress I get over 100 easily :? |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 269 Registered: May-05 | Ok, first you have a slow video card. Second, you have 512 mb of ram, and third you obviously have no clue about rates. www.csbanana.com has a really good guide to the rates, and what they should be. Also, Id kick it up a nothch and get a 6800gt, or dual gpu 6600 gt. You cant expect the best when your playing on less than average comp. |
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Unregistered guest | i have 150$ with me and i want to purchaes a grafix card my pc is intel cel. 2.4 ghz 128 mb ram intel 82845g i want all the latest games to play on my pc and the future games as well so again i need not upgrade again and again please tell me wich grafix card should i go with i am in india tell me accordingly |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 187 Registered: Jan-05 | Sandy, its not just your graphics card which matters its your pc altogether. New hardware is coming out all the time and games companies will continue to advance the graphics in games so you'll never be in a situation where you wont have to upgrade. Your processor is..ok but AMD are better with gaming. Its a fact. Your processor will struggle with a lot of the more modern games like FEAR and Half life 2 even though it is 2.4ghz which is the recommended speed. Your ram is definately not going to be enough to play the latest games. 1gb is pretty much standard, 2gb will be standard by another year i bet. There are different speeds of ram check out the topic about Ram in this forum. It covers pretty much everything on Ram. $150 is an ok budget for a card, $160 would get you a geforce 6600gt which is what I have and it plays most the latest games fine on highest settings. On FEAR however my graphics card has to be set on medium, my processor accounts for a lot of the performance really. Unfortunately my motherboard isnt sli compatable so If you decide to buy a new comp which I would advise, then get one thats sli compatable. I however dont play too many games although as games become more realistic i.e. using 2 7800gtx to the full I doubt anyone will be able to resist. If you read the posts in this topic you'll learn a lot..so do that! But if you trully want a decent gaming machine, you'll need that ram upgrade a geforce 6 series in sli mode or a 6800gt or ultra and Im guessing a geforce 7 series is way out of budget. Not sure how big your hardrive is but the latest games are gigabytes in size, so you might want to bare that in mind too. |
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Unregistered guest | ya i want to upgrade my ram also 256 is it ok. and what about ati radeon 9800pro 256mb and this geforce fx 5700 and above. because the one you suggested only has 128 ram. and which motherbord should i go for. because i was surffing the net and i heard about these 2 cards. and i am having 40 gb hard disk what should i do tell me i have also heard about 6600gt but they are slow and gives many problem. |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 188 Registered: Jan-05 | Trust me the 6600gt isnt slow. It has gddr3 memory as opposed to ddr which the 9800 has. 256mb is an advantage sometimes but if you look at benchmarks sandy you'll find that a lot of 128mb cards out perform 256mb cards. Its up to you really but I love my 6600gt..for now! Plus it supports high dynamic range lighting which im not sure if the radeons do, nvidia and ati are both very good but just use different marketing jargon names for all their features. Also nvidia will be bringing out drivers for geforce 6 series cards for when windows vista comes out. Id definately get a motherboard with 2 pci express slots..like from Asus or Gigabyte. Asus are probably the best for motherboards. If you do this you can get one pci express card then upgrade in the future getting another exactly the same to run in dual mode. About your Ram, upgrading to 256, isnt enough. Buying a 1gb stick or 2 512 is what i advise. Remember that there are different kinds of ram though as in the pin slots and also different speeds. Like i said read the ram topic. About hard disks the good thing about these is they're cheap!! If I was you I'd buy a 120gb because that should last you and it wont set you back more than £80-about $140 i guess. Honestly though, if you look at the cost of upgrading all your parts your practically looking at a new system. Your psu Im guessing is going to start causing problems since the computer sounds old so maybe you should consider looking about to buy a barebone then buying needed components seperately-or a pc company where you can spec up your comp for cheap. Be carefull though because with some online pc shops they can have really good prices on some components then rip you off with others like RAM costing £150 for 512mb!! |
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sandy_76100 Unregistered guest | thank u very much for your help. jelvis i will do that thanks ones again |
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New member Username: Random17Post Number: 1 Registered: Oct-05 | ok how much fps would i get with the pci ati radeon 9250 256mb vid card? |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 189 Registered: Jan-05 | *Cringe* read the damn post raymond and do some research. Dont think you'll get an easy answer from a forum. Getting fps isnt JUST the quality of the card!!! You need a good processor and a decent amount of ram. What game is it for a start??? Look on google for benchmarks! |
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Unregistered guest | i bought a nvidia Geforce 5200 but it did not work with my computer which is mercury via chipset, P IV 2.4, ram 256. it was always getting hanged or restarting. i changed it to a nvidia tornado geforce MX 4000 card which is working with my computer. is MX 4000 a good card? |
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Daniel5000 Unregistered guest | ok im not very keen with all this stuff.. my info is this.. Intel® Pentium®4 CPU 1.70GHz 256MB ram i think my graphic or video card is a NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX 100/200.. ive bourght counter strike source as im picking up on the 20th . Australia that is.. and i wanna know if it would still work alrite. and if that graphic card is alrite.. thanx |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 191 Registered: Jan-05 | Daniel Min: 1.2 GHz Processor 256MB RAM DirectX 7 graphics card Windows 2000/XP/ME/98 Mouse Keyboard Preferred: 2.4 GHz ProcessorB 512MB RAM DirectX 9 graphics card Windows 2000/XP Mouse Keyboard Thats for cs:s Your processor and Ram is going to be ok, but im not too sure about the geforce 2. I once had the geforce 2 mx400 and it did support directx9. I never tried cs:s though since I got that with half life 2. If your geforce 2 works with css settings will have to be on very minimum and framerate would be low. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 307 Registered: May-05 | Jelvis, Once thing bro. Direct x is not the grafix card. Direct x is what alows programs to run on windows. Hense why mac stuff wont run on windows, and windows stuff on mac. Nothing to do with grafix card. You can run direct x 9 c with any card. In fact its required by most games. Hl2 wont support direct x 7 without glitches. 9 is mandatory nowadays. And man, You wont even be able to play hl2 with a comp using a 1.2 ghz cpu. This game requires good hardware, up to date software and drivers. If you cant afford a good setup, stick to hl1 and cs 1.6. Id say to play and actually be able to play, and not "teleporting thru the game" due to tremendous lag, you need DSL/Cable at a minumum, atleast a 2ghz cpu, with atleast a 512 cache, 512 mb ram at a minimum, and atleast a 6600 nvidia card. Without this its hopeless. not even worth playing the game kuz it will run so crappy. Daniel, save your money, im not sure how old you are, but Im guessin your either young, or just not really into computers as much (which isnt bad). I reccommend you save a lil money and upgrade your comp. Its about 5 years out of date in speed. Intel cpu's can reach 6.3 ghz now, and amd can reach almost 4 ghz. 1.7 ghz just wont cut it for the newer games. For about 600$ you can build a good gaming comp. Well not top end, but i guarantee you for $500-$600 you will be able to play almost any game on the market to present time. Just not with settings maxed out. If anyone is having lag problems due to their comp go to www.csbanana.com and look up the tutorial for rates. It will give you alll the settings you will need to type into consol in hl2 and css that will fit your comp. Check it out. Worth a try. much reccommended site. O and a note, dont install skins, or anything into hl1,hl2, css, or cs. If your comp cant handle the stock skins, 3rd party skins ddefinately wont work. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 308 Registered: May-05 | heres the rule, Ive seen quite a few people complaining about how they cant run the newest games on your comp. All i say is tough. You cant expect to play the latest, highest tech games on an old comp. Its like tryin to use a "Stock Car" in nascar now adays. Yea in the 80's it was stock cars in nascar, but now look at it. Its far from stock cars. What im tryin to say is if u wanna play the new stuff, u need to make sure you playing it with somewhat new hardware, or it will be lamer sucky noobish.llol |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 192 Registered: Jan-05 | Tim Tim Tim. I know what direct x is im not so much of a noob to think its a graphics card. I just copied and pasted those requirments they didnt specifically say recommended geforce 6 series cards or better. HL2 obviously isnt going to be any good on a 1.2 ghz processor lolz. One thing I didnt know is intel have 6.3ghz processor..I cant see why anyone would need that processing power. Amd have their stupid processor labelling system so effectively their fastest processor is the dual core 4800+ working at equivalent 4.7ghz Intel power. I dont want to go into the lame Intel vs AMD argument, its boring. Good point about the stock car racing though, only I gotta say nascar is so dam boring..round and round and round. You want F1 like we have it here. Thats the true speed and the real game ;) Daniel, Tims right, just upgrade a bit if you cant afford a new rig. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 309 Registered: May-05 | Sorry, I didnt mean to sound bad, i was just making sure the others that dont know much dont get mistaken from it. Im not questioning your knowledge, i just want to make sure others aint mistaken. I like you imput tho, you do know your stuff. Keep it up bro. |
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Daniel5000 Unregistered guest | hmnmm yeh well im only 14.. i start working in about 4 months so i will be able to save then.. oh by the way my setup is this now.. Intel Pentium4 CPU 1.70GHz 768MB ram got a 512 ram today. but ther r some pretty decent GeForce graphic cards at the place i go for around $150 - $250. but yeh.. hopefully i can save some money soon |
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Daniel5000 Unregistered guest | hmnmm yeh well im only 14.. i start working in about 4 months so i will be able to save then.. oh by the way my setup is this now.. Intel Pentium4 CPU 1.70GHz 768MB ram got a 512 ram today. but ther r some pretty decent GeForce graphic cards at the place i go for around $150 - $250. but yeh.. hopefully i can save some money soon i have dsl 512k by the way. |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 193 Registered: Jan-05 | Nice going Daniel. Your the first person I know who has actually feedbacked to a forum saying how they upgraded and u did it quickly too. Your ram is the same amount as I have now lol..I really need to get a gig more though. Its good you have a job, I wanted one at your age but simply couldnt be bothered. $160 could get you the 6600gt, same as mine. Its a great card and plays cs:s perfectly on highest settings but then again your cpu will limit this. The 6600gt actually performs slightly better than the 6800 (non gt) on cs:s and definately matches up to the framerate. As usual Ill just say make a note on agp and pci express, dont get a card which wont fit your m/b. Keep saving dude ;) |
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daniel5000 Unregistered guest | soo hmm... how much will it cost for a better CPU? if not will the 6600gt be good enough? if so how much australian dollars is it? and is this 6600gt a NVIDIA Geforce? thanx heaps on all this |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 194 Registered: Jan-05 | Well the 6600gt plays the latest games, most on highest settings but on cs:s ive actually limited a few things on settings which tend to limit my fps like the filtering type anti-aliasiing and vsync. For some reason I was playing on the game earlier myself and it went down to 30fps. Now its back up to 60-110 so I'll have to find out the problem. There is an agp version of the 6600gt and pciexpress of it too which is what I have and if i continue to play games in a year or two I'll be looking at something from the 7 series range. I wish I had a motherboard with 2 pciexpress slots so I can run in sli mode but I dont and I doubt v much your m/b has pciexpress slots. So, If you ever buy a new m/b then get one with 2 pciexpress slots!! Cpu type depends on what m/b u have and if its compatable. I think you should stick with your cpu for now unless you find a similiar intel with the same pin. I suppose there could be a half decent 2.4ghz Intel processor out there that would suit your m/b for quite cheap. Yes the 6600gt is nvidia geforce but there are many companies which sell their own versions. If your looking at a super budget system in the future look at Dell or Emachines. They're simple systems but work for budgets. Dont forget ATI radeon either. The 9800 pro is very good but the 6600gt is the alround best in its range! |
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Daniel5000 Unregistered guest | alrite kool... thanx for that.. ill have a talk with my computer shop guys lol |
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Daniel5000 Unregistered guest | well i want to play cs source soon as im getting it in a week.. and i really dont have the money to get a hole new cpu or computer... what would be the most best thing i can do to get cs source working at least so i can play alrite... with out spending alot!! with all my specifications what would be the best choice? if i get the 6600gt would that make it run decent? with a fps under 100? thanx heaps and sorry if im abit of a stubbon one. |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 195 Registered: Jan-05 | Id recommend u get the 6600gt, I doubt very much you'll be dissapointed with it. Your ram is good enough for the game but obviously more ram is always better, thats why Im getting some more soon to double my bandwith with dual channel. Your fps will definatley not be over 100. I'd predict itll be more like 30-40fps with settings on suitably, but cs:s automatically sets it to what it recommends according to your system specs. Obviously game resolution is the biggest factor that affects framerate, i have it on highest 2048x1024-i think because I have an lcd screen. Thing is, it'll play but just take a while to load the game. Buying even more Ram would be good, so if you have 1gb-1.5gb it'll help cs a lot since cs is extremely ram intensive! http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q3/geforce-6600gt/index.x?pg=6 |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 312 Registered: May-05 | lol u aint stubborn daniel. Your doing the rite thing. Its good to ask questions, and push more for the answer you want. SOmetimes you ownt get it, sometimes you will. We all start somewhere, and looks like you are on a god track. like i said earlier, www.csbanana.com is probably the most helpful counter-strike 1.6, counter-strike 2D, and counter-strike source site on the net. look around. I wish it existed when Counter-Strike was in ibeta phazes still. Good ol beta 7. sniffle, the days when css was fun, and not just about owning. |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 196 Registered: Jan-05 | Lolz Tim! I know what u mean about getting owned-why whats changed that was in the beta? Im a fairly average player on cs:s! Theres the odd day when I do super well, especially on 'cs office' but we all have that day. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 315 Registered: May-05 | I cant remember the last time I truely got owned. O it was by SK. lol other than the pros, there isnt to many people that will own me, but hey, its only cuz ive been on cs from the start. Alpha testing in 98 was a kick. :D |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 316 Registered: May-05 | Practice makes perfect :D Jelvis u should play aim maps, and alot. Once u got the wicked aim, then strats come in. :D |
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Daniel5000 Unregistered guest | lol well thanx.. yeah i will probably save for the 6600gt... and by the way.. any of use wanna verse me 1v1 in cs 1.6 or cz? lil_guitar_kid@hotmail.com try and beat me :P |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 317 Registered: May-05 | If I played 1.6 still I would, But since ive been helpin train my buddies Cal Im CSS team, I dont have much time. If I get time tho, ill be happy to scrim you. CPL_MILL, Or CPL_FIRE. Maybe De_Train, or De_Nuke for the map. :D |
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daniel5000 Unregistered guest | hahah okk... yeah im dieing to play cs source tho.. the videos made me so excited lol. cant wait tho.. getting it in 10 days.. AW!! when i get it ill verse u ok and beat ur a.s.s :P lol |
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Silver Member Username: James_the_godDoncaster, South Yorkshire England Post Number: 197 Registered: Jan-05 | Ye Tim i think I'll have a look at the aim maps! Daniel, I dont usually add people from forums but I have to you..Cs:S should be a little more fun playing against someone I 'half know'. Tell us how your 6600gt goes when u get it, I want to see what your impressions are :P |
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Daniel5000 Unregistered guest | ok!! kool well that will be a while but stay in this forum to check back in a while.. i mite be able to somehow get it for christmas.. but im already getting an ipod and someothers which is quite expensive.. but yeah ill still try.. cant wait to get source tho. 9 days |
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Daniel5000 Unregistered guest | only a couple more days till i get cs:s! yay.. 4 days.. lol hey i might be able to get the graphics card lol.. my dad got a bonus at work so yaeh! ill try! illl let u know how the game goes how my specs r now.. okk bye |
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Random User Unregistered guest | Just got done with a bit of testing. nVidia GeForce 6800 (vanilla) 256MB at stock speeds is slower than an ATI Radeon X800 (vanilla) 128MB. At overclocked speeds, the 6800 is able to pull ahead. you can find an X800 for around $150. It should (ahem) beat a 6600GT. |
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Silver Member Username: G3nocd3San Jose, Ca USA Post Number: 353 Registered: May-05 | Ummm bro. The 6800 ultra schools in x800 in clock speeds. ATI makes their own cards, Unlike nvidia. (they do have their own cards but most are 3rd party.) Nvidia sells their gpu's to seperate hardware makers like pny , evga, and leadtec. Also thats not even comparable. The 6800gt is comparable to the 9800pro, and the 6800 ultra is comparable to the x800. My nvidia 6800 ultra stock clock speed is faster than the ati x800 by 2%. do a lil more research random user. |