12 inch Re Audio SEX12D4 or Alpine Type R 12 inch
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New member Username: E3_overkillPost Number: 1 Registered: Jul-11 | hey guys, I'm deciding whether between RE Audio 12 inch SEX12D4 or Alpine Type R 12inch The alpine set up would be 2 alpine type r 12 inch. The amp would be an alpine MRX- M1000. In a ported box probably 1.75 cubic foot per camber. Amp- 1000 @ 2ohm bridged mono D (Alpine) Subs- 500 rms 1500 peak (Alpine) The Re Audio set would be 2 RE sex12d4 12 inch. Hifonics Brutus BRZ-1200.1. But im not to sure on sealed or ported box on this set up. Amp- 1200 @ 1 ohm bridge mono D (Hifonics) Subs- 600 rms 1200 peak (RE Audio) Which set up do you guy think i should get? im looking for more SPL, but not sacrificing SQ. i still want to hear my music you know. thanks guy i appreciate it. |
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Gold Member Username: JoebruceCrescendo Audio FTMFW!!!, AA Havoc 15 ... Your Mom FTW!!! Post Number: 3540 Registered: May-04 | My vote goes to Alpine. |
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Gold Member Username: JbpittPittsburgh, Pa. Usa Post Number: 1246 Registered: Jul-09 | The Alpine setup. Better subs and better amp |
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New member Username: E3_overkillPost Number: 2 Registered: Jul-11 | Thanx guy for the info. So you guys think the alpine's have better SPL ? |
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Platinum Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 11912 Registered: Jul-06 | I would use the Alpine amp and RE sub |
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Bronze Member Username: CaseyPost Number: 11 Registered: Jun-11 | x2 Alpine amp and RE sub |
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New member Username: E3_overkillPost Number: 3 Registered: Jul-11 | Why do you guys think re subs and alpine amp ? Just wondering ? |
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Silver Member Username: Dloco486Post Number: 157 Registered: Apr-11 | if u go with the alpine amp regardless which subs u choose u'll need to get the dvc 2 ohm version of either sub not dvc 4 if u get the brutus amp u'll want the dvc 4 ohm on whichever sub u pick. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 41 Registered: Jul-11 | alpine all the way because I think you should stay with all the same since they make the amp exactly for their subs. They are the best in my opinion for spl and sq. |
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New member Username: E3_overkillPost Number: 4 Registered: Jul-11 | I was actaully thinking about going with the new version type r's two 12's and then the new oxyn MB quarts 1500. 1 mono D and wire them parallel @ 1 ohm? And maybe putting them in a 4 cubic ft box. 2 ft per camber. What is your guys opinion on that ? Cause i was originally going to go with the first type r's with the big r symbol in the middle, and run it with the alpine amp. So which do you guys think would be louder. The new have 100 more rms then thee old. So 600 rms and 1800 peak. So jusy want more opinions. Thank for all the replies. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 53 Registered: Jul-11 | Newer ones yes. They would be louder and you just have to pair them up right to power them enough. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 58 Registered: Jul-11 | kinda old but did you ever decide on a setup?? |
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Bronze Member Username: E3_overkillPost Number: 68 Registered: Jul-11 | yeah actually i did decide. i went with some thing totally different. i went with 2 Sundown audio SA-12 in a 1.75cu ft. per camber, and tuned at 34 hz. with a MB Quarts 1500 mono D. wired @ 1 ohm. and shot let me tell you those subs are loud as hell. and can handle a shot ton my the recommended RMS. im get a new amp SAZ-2500. im already at 145.6 db. with the MB Quarts. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 60 Registered: Jul-11 | Ha thats what I'm doing totally changing my ideas on what I wanted. Im buying 2 12" Skars with a sax-1200d :D thats the same thing for these I went and watched some videos on them dammit man they can handle some power and get massively loud. Wow after the new amp hopefully you can get to the 150's ahhhhh. Did you design your own box or did you go buy one? |
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Silver Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 832 Registered: May-09 | The SA-12s will sound twice as loud as the Skars for the same power though. Both are 600W and both reach low. E3 Overkill I am glad you found the stuff you wanted, I am sure you can be heard a block away! |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 61 Registered: Jul-11 | I got a deal with the skars and an amp thats basically the reason. One last question does your heart skip a beat when you turn it up haha xD basshead |
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Silver Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 837 Registered: May-09 | It's a done deal so I guess it does not matter anymore but it would be great if you review them along with the amp when you have them installed. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 62 Registered: Jul-11 | Oh I will and post it back up on here. Now I just need someone to help me build a box or design one I can make for them... o.O |
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Silver Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 841 Registered: May-09 | These suggestions are per sub: For an SPL alignment 1.75cuft@36Hz (to run above rated power) For deep bass 2.0cuft@30Hz And there are some guys running them up to 2.25cuft@28Hz, but I wouldn't recommend that alignment very much. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 63 Registered: Jul-11 | Just for a regular l port, im using re audios bocs calculator. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 64 Registered: Jul-11 | box* |
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Silver Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 852 Registered: May-09 | Ok caveman just let me know the space you have L,H,D and I will give you a design suggestion. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 65 Registered: Jul-11 | :D thank you Length can be 4 foot or less Width can be 2 foot or less Height can be 2 foot or less |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 66 Registered: Jul-11 | And if you can try and get the length as less as you can like 3 feet id appreciate it. |
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Silver Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 855 Registered: May-09 | Ok caveman, let me know if this is your sub: http://skaraudio.com/index.php/products/vvx-12/item/vvx-12-sub-woofer.html Separate chambers are better here because it makes unnecessary to add bracing, check this center port design:  Can you manage to build that?? Also on the link they recommend this for ported enclosure: 1.75 CuFt Per Driver after displacement of sub. Tuned ~36hz You want that or bigger, most designs are going for: 2.0 CuFt Per Driver after displacement of sub. Tuned ~30hz Makes a bigger enclosure sounding lower but maybe takes less power. If I go for a single slot port on one side I will have to add a center brace (if feasible), would you prefer that? |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 67 Registered: Jul-11 | I was reading through some forums and one guy found a design,http://www.diamondaudio.com/PDF/current/WiringEnclosures/Dual12VentedEncl osure.pdf, what do you think of that? I dont know how many CuFt it has or the hertz the box is tuned to though. I can manage building anything as long as I have dimensions to go by. To be honest I really don't know but I can say what I'm looking for if that can help. I want a ground pounding system, so you can do whatever you want in your opinion because I have no experience really. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 68 Registered: Jul-11 | http://www.diamondaudio.com/PDF/current/WiringEnclosures/Dual12VentedEnclosure.p df Link was messed up. And yes thats the subs. |
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Silver Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 856 Registered: May-09 | That enclosure is tuned to 40Hz (too high) and is designed for the displacement of a diamond audio sub so it's no good, but I can go for individual chambers with ports on the sides. But I would stick with L shaped ports just to keep the build simple.  So that would probably be my suggestion a 2 cuft per chamber tuned to 30Hz with ports on the sides like you see in the picture above. Would you like that?? its easy to build and design. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 69 Registered: Jul-11 | Sounds like that'll work plus it'll be easy to build. |
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Silver Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 857 Registered: May-09 | Ok caveman, it will take me a while since there are other things I need to take care of and this also needs to be done well. Also if you want it would be nice if you started a thread with something like: Skar VVX-12 enclosure build So that people give opinions, should be interesting. |
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Bronze Member Username: CavemandjdMorgan City, Louisiana United States Post Number: 70 Registered: Jul-11 | Ha it ok, I see what your saying I'm still in school so its going to take a long time to build. Theres no rush on it. I do appreciate it. Definitely shall. |
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