Hi I haven't posted in awhile (just got back from the Service) and I have a question that you all might help me figure out? My buddy nick has a sub that he wants to sell Its a Critical mass ul 12?? never even heard of it?! He says its works fantastic just needs money for the new baby boy.. Askin price is $390. The sub looks cool but for a "5000" watt woofer it feels kinda lite.. my orion hcca is much heavier.. so my question is should I get it?
I've never heard one, but they are supposed to be one the best sounding subs you can find. there are a few reviews of them on the web. supposed to be a fantatic sub though.
its been around a few yrs going , was 1 of the few companies to use neodymium magnets which r strong but light weight & a bit pricey too so thats probably why u never heard of it or see many ppl using it so as to give u a review or opinion ...
There was one being sold on caco for around 5 to 550 if i remember correctly. i know they were over a grand new. so the price seems reasonable. car audio and electronics said it was the best sub they've ever tested. but they also said the si mag was just mediocre. so don't know how much water their reviews hold.
Wow I had no idea.. yes I researched a little and was surprised at how expensive they are.. I will purchase it just because its rare and supposedly from what I read and everyone says its pretty good..
I'm sure it sounds a lot cleaner than my hcca... but i don't have the necessary electrical upgrades to put 5krms to her
I would assume you wouldn't have to put near that much power to it. 1 to 2k clean power should be plenty imo. from the specs i've seen, it's a really efficient sub.
in that case my sundown saz 1500 will be just fine.. ok everybody im gonna get it and do a test and give a review of how that goes.. thanx for everyones opinions and advice
this thread makes me chuckle people talkin about neo mags lol. anyway that sub is a beast, good sq if in the right box but will do wonders spl wise if you design the box for that. very exspensive though 390 is a steal compared to what it goes for on forums or brand new. an fyi neo mags have been around for YEARS shocker made their neo sig back in 04 i think was setting WR with it. DD makes a lot of their subs using neo motors also.
poeple trying to talk about neo mags but obvisouly dont know anything.
"was 1 of the few companies to use neodymium magnets which r strong but light weight & a bit pricey too so thats probably why u never heard of it" fyi alot of companies use neos.
"And rovin is correct, neo magnet... gives the sub the "power" of a large heavy magnet in a small and light design" the power huh didn't know subs created power thought that was amp i mus b reterted heheh
Nothings wrong with rovins comment. He was saying the OP prob never heard of the sub b/c of it's high price. And when those subs came out neo magnets were not so common as they are now.
As for my comment notice the quotes meaing the word power is not to taken literally.
It seems you may in fact be retarded, I guess u are right about something...
You guys are kinda funny.. Yes I believe I never heard of this sub because like M.S. said I don't shop for subs in the $1,000+ range, too rich for my blood lol..
But I really appreciate everyones advice. I allready grabbed this sub from my buddy nick.. I can't find a ton of info on box design so If you guys got any suggestions such as CU.FT and ported vs sealed etc, would be much appreciated. For history I've run JLw7( I know I know but got it for $275 so yeah) Type R's , Fi Q's and orion hcca's.. I have found out I like ported enclosures tuned 32hz and below, seems to give more output ported and decent SQ when tuned correctly( to me anyway).
^^^ I will do a comparison review between my soon to be system and all my past systems..I'm hoping its cleaner than HCCA but not as loud because that thing off 1500rms is crazy... I do miss my Q's tho!
lol but ya ms im retarded lol. also neo mags or mags in genrall really have little control on how much "power" a sub can take thats more suspension/coil smart one. i could take a cvr motor put badazz coil/suspension on it and give it 2k rms but itd be pointless. i know i come off cocky but seriously when people make dumb posts that arent even close to the fact i say i have the right to get cocky.
You are the one making the dumb posts. When did say neo magnets affect the subs power handling? Oh thats right i didn't.... that is determined by the coil and the cooling it has.
You are taking "power" literally when it was clearly not meant to be. " And rovin is correct, neo magnet... gives the sub the strength of a large heavy magnet in a small and light design. " That better? "Strength" is what i wanted to say from the start but couldn't think of the word.
aight lol no sense in argueing bout dumb stuff. i think the word your lloking for though is BL in which thats the neos main advantage over ceramic. gives the sub more motor force without weighing 100lbs. i remember seeing on caco some guy used a neo sig motor with some custom coil and was getting a bl rateing over 200 or somethin crazy. The ul12 is a badass sub hands down, if you got it for 390 you got one hell of a deal.
I'm starting to think I got a awesome deal cuz one of my friends friends just offered me 700 bucks for it! I might let it go and try a couple SSA xcon 12's..I've always wanted a couple of those....