hi guys i was wondering if some other guys with s10s ext cabs whats a good system set up for one?
Im currently in between jobs so no money as of now but my 1 12in sub and my small amp are not cutting it for me anymore and im ready to up it to maybe a 15? or 2 12s of a better kind. i have a pioneer premier currently.
I wanna go ported. I can prob have 3-5 cu ft box. My planned amp to run is a AQ 2200D.
my main question is what sub/ subs would be a good match to the AQ amp while giving me good steady wangage in a s10.
I really like Revolution Design FI and other companies but i never have dealt with this kinda power and was looking for some gudeiance to what would give me the best/loudest output.
My main goal for the system is not all out SPL but a nice hard hitting system that will bang but still be pretty loud when all the setting are turned down all the way.
i plan to upgrade all electrical. As stated before this will be over time period of 2-3 months i want to have a new system around summer.
i could maybe spend 300-400$ on subwoofer(s) maybe more just depending on what will give me the best wangage.
im selling a used Sundown Audio Nightshade 18", built up version. so handles 2-3k RMS. its a D1 sub so you would see a .5 ohm load for that AQ2200 . get some real power outta that sucker
that sub and that amp would wang for sure in that truck...i know because i just built a 1986 s-10 ext cab with same sub and same amount of power, tuned to 30hz
yea the FI BL 12s are 275 so pretty much 300$ but if im gonna pay that much for a sub might aswell go 18"
I think the 18in sub would be more for the wow effect. How much of a DB gain would an 18in sub over a 15in sub be? i know the 3in more of cone area would make a diff but whats the numbers?
also does anyone have any idea on how to make a transmission line box or t-line box. i cant find much info about it and i wanna try it on my 12 to see how loud i can get the cheap pioneer.
eh.. for the room of running a single 18".. you can do a pair of 15"s which is what I'd suggest
we did do an SX 18 in my friends mazda ext cab.. but single sub setups are just not impressive.. they can get plenty loud.. but don't move enough air.. just don't feel the same with less moving mass
Big D i had an s10 and all i was running was a single 10 in a box tuned to 33hrz and it hit really good if ur 12 aint cutting it get a better 12" or a 15" max if ur wanting to keep some room back there but if ur gonna take up the whole back then 2 15s audioque hdc3 and back it up and ur deff gonna need that alt i know my hifonics was a bit to much for the alt lol and i had the sub and the port pointing up in my truck
haha well as i said in my first post im inbetween jobs atm.
Thomas its not that its not cutting it. its pretty loud but im the i want MOARRR kinda guy im getting all i can get outta my 12.
i could careless about the area taken up what i was gonna do was remove the side back seats and take the plastic covers off.
i was gonna cut the jack holder on the back off so the box will fit better but i was gonna line the box on the windows with foam or something to keep from vibrating on the window and maybe breaking it.
i need to get Dynamat my roof is kinda flimsy from the 3 12s i had that i sold because of hard times. Now im back on my feet just in between jobs and its time for a new hard banger for the back .
i really like the 1 18 idea. I just wanna make sure i have room to put an amp and another bat.
would i need to make custom door panels for tweats and mids? i could prob do it in the side pocket on my doors. Im pretty decent with my hands.
would it be a good idea to get mids to run off a small 4ch amp for better control and tweats on HU?
i know im looking at alot of money but im well aware and thats why im kinda looking to you guys for guidance cause i know alot of you are more experienced.
Basebalz13 can you email me with a price ona HO alt? (or post it here) 1992 chevy s10 2.8 2wd 200amp-350amp and could you tell me how much a dual kit with 2 300amps would cost Aero810@yahoo.com
well the rattle on my roof is annoying as hell. highs it rattles like a baby rattler lows it shakes like a stripper in Vegas when the Benjamins start hitting the table.
im not going to comps though so it wouldnt make a diff i dont think but that is an interesting thing to find out about Domenico.
anyone have any input about Mat has an impact on SPL?
and yeah i figured the guy at audio express is wrong.. i wana do my s15 up with it. what parts of the truck did you put the mat on? and how much did it cost?
I will ask about a dual alt kit, that would be something custom made on the side
i put it EVERYWHERE lol, but then again i now have no rattles at 150+ easily on music.
i sell the damp pro packs which is 36.5 sq ft for 150 shipped. and i used 4 packs for my truck, however i think you should start off with just two packs first and go from there!
well theres a number of ways the kit actually bolts up, depending on your vehicle. so ill have to wait to get the word from the big man on that one.
but it wires up the same, just run a 1/0 to your battery as your stock location is, and the alt should come as just a one wire alt, so you just splice that into your stock as well. It would come with a guide on how to hook it up
hmmm, How much RMS will you be running?
like what are the amps- subs and mono and what are they rated at each-
Alright tight, so it comes with the bracket and sh!t or no?
im working on getting a blow through with SIX 500 watt subs and (alpine type r) THREE mono block 1000 watt amps (pdx 1000)
so what size&price would i need for that? -------- ALSO its going to take me a while to get alllll the equip so if its not to much trouble could you get me the size&price i would need for
4 of those subs and 2 of those amps.(to hold me over till i get the rest of the equip.)
Basebalz how did the Quality of sound improve w/o the roof rattle? also how can i brace my back window/wall to stop flex?
Domenico. your gonna be moving some air and hitting pretty good too. i had 3 12s on 500w rms each and they were pretty loud so all i can do is imagine with more cone area. Im also in the same boat as you finance wise lol.
question about 18in woofers. Will they hit higher Freq like in "Blunt fulla dro" by "gucci mane" were its upper freq and has one lower freq? or "Soldiers from da northside" by "three six mafia"? i love skull cracking highs and gut busting lows.
Domenico- the one i said the 270 max 160 idle, would handle that power fine, tht with say 2 Group 31 batts an you would be golden, no need for a second alternator!
btw, where are yo getting the subs from and how much? could i maybe persuade you to try something different, that would be better
Bid D- its sounded ALOT better, you could hear the music not rattling
the deadner made a big diff in flex, but to ultimatly stop it you would need to get some like 1 or 1.5" wide and .25" thick flat bars, and pick up some "fusor metal to metal" glue and glue them on, the glue is about 50 dollars for the big tube, and then it takes a special gun
yeah i ran 3 12s on 1500 rms on a stalk alt but i did put in another bat but i do not advise it i weakened my alt severely.
well i can live with flex lol. do you know the sound when your playing a song and it sounds like its pushing the metal outwards kinda hard to explain but i hear it in my ears. its when i got my truck sealed up windows up. i think its the flexing from the air but not too sure.
6 12s would be pretty loud. the electrical would need to be upgraded Alt and batts but it would be totally worth it.
My 3 12s were making vehicles shake hard. I have set in systems with 6 12s on about the same wattage except they were Digital Designs but they were LOUD.
Its not just the speakers that make it loud. There's a lot of other factors. I'm not saying anything on you D. I've had so many ppl talk smack on my 3 10s. " My hommie has 2 15s and dey slam stupid hard""I've heard loud. You gotta have 15s to be loud" all quotes. Then they sit in my daewoo heaven and get a taste of 3 10s. "Holy shitttt man. Wtf!" Build quality is a big factor. You should be pretty loud 3 12s. I think 4 12s on a AQ2200 would slam pretty hard in an S10. If space wasn't an issue for me I'd run 4 12s(D6s) would be my choice. Rated for 600wrms but they'll love 750rms. Ask yourself how crazy do u wanna go? How about your front stage?
I know the quality of the build is the most important. The more you hurry the worst you sound.
funny you say that kyle i was just thinking 4 12s but idk certainly yet. i was thinking about 4 RE SE12s on 2 AQ2200Ds (2 subs and 1 amp at a time). about 1000w rms each in a pretty big box that i may just need to wall it.
oh my front stage isnt great at ALL. i need to invest in some better quality atm only have 4 6.5 boss mids and 4 boss tweats. mids are running off a 250 watt amp 2 channel. tweats on my Head unit.
The 6 12s were pretty loud imo i didnt see them on meter but he claimed 155 on the dash and my chest pains seemed to back it up.
but in the same night i sat down in a system with a DD9515 on a MA3000.1D and it had almost the same effect on me. Both in Montecarlos. 15 was built in trunk, 12s in the what was the back seat thats now the sub wall.
To basebalz, seen your post after long one above ^ ^. yea simplicity is bliss lol.
it comes down to personnel preference and i do want to see what a 18 can do but i love the air moving throat closing bass. but i never heard one 18 but i believe it could deliver that same response just less air movement.
"If space wasn't an issue for me I'd run 4 12s(D6s) would be my choice."
"Diamond Audio D6 subwoofers are the perfect example. Whether your listening tastes are as varied as smooth jazz or gangsta rap these woofers won't disappoint." hahaha GANGSTA!
yes 4 12s will fit. i seen 6 12s with the box built to fit the ext cab part with all wires running to the bed with a bed cover and 3 2000 watt amps not sure of brand. on 6 pioneer premiers.
well get all your equip and just get ready for a major install. You dont have to run all wires to the bed if you dont have to fill the back up with box.
when you get all the equip your gonna have a pretty good system.
get one of those diamond plate tool boxes (or similar) to put all that stuff in to save room in your cab. That way you can build amp racks ect. and your cab won't be riddled with wires and your amps and batteries will still be out of the weather. you could run your power wire along the frame and right into the box and have a short ground wire directly to the frame. Just make sure everything is sealed up and watertight
im not sure what to do yet im still waiting on call backs from the 15+ applications i put lol. being a Sr in highschool looking for a job is pretty rough around here.
Basebalz - idk if you were tlkn to me about the wall but i said non-walled, i dont want to get into all that work.
Smith - the tool box idea is sexy but i have a leather snap on cover so it wouldnt work for me.. ill think of something though.
Big D - We're in the same boat... . but today i have to drive a grip load to sell this dude my double din(250) and type r's(350). then ima buy some new sh!t. im thinkin' either 4 type r's so i can get them outa the way OR 2 drivers and AQ2200 and worry about the 2 drivers later. idfk lol
Dominico - i think you can get one of those tool boxes that will be flush to the top of the bed. or you could make a plywood box and cover it with truck bedliner and put weatherstripping along the top to seal it.